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cuppacoffee
01-14-2006, 09:15 PM
I was searching old posts for some Kubiak remarks from last year and came across this post from our resident swami...pretty accurate don't you think?
It was during our third year.

Check out the date it was posted. I think it was a response to a thread about firing coaches.

12-15-2004
Ibar_Harry
All Pro Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,187

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Three years is not every year. In fairness the 1st two years looked like the team was making progress and heading in the right direction. We ended last year on some very positive notes. We were in ball games having incurred a lot of injuries. We looked like a team who could really mature in the off season. This season, however, has been a dismal failure in many ways and, more importantly, the chemistry that we had last year has disappeared. The team is like a river barge that's lost its power source. We are headed for a big crash without any life boats.


Fair assessment in retrospect.

TexansTrueFan
01-14-2006, 09:18 PM
hmmm spooky :stirpot:

Tulip
01-14-2006, 09:28 PM
What insight.

I'm starting to think the 2004 season is a much better key to team evaluation than 2005.

Why couldn't they rise above mediocrity? It's a question that was mostly lost due to happiness that they at least improved their record by two games.

Carr Bombed
01-14-2006, 09:37 PM
The difference between the 2004 team and the 2005 team is leadership. In 2004 we had leadership in the secondary and the front seven.

wiley2002
01-14-2006, 09:44 PM
Nice to know someone else shares my perspective.

Vinny
01-14-2006, 10:31 PM
I donno...Ibar sold gloom and doom every year since his prediction that David Carr would lead the team to the Super Bowl in 2002 (yes, he called a Super Bowl run in the expansion season). This is just the year the lines cross on the graph of his annual doom prediction since his initial dissapointment of 2002.

Marcus
01-14-2006, 10:40 PM
I donno...Ibar sold gloom and doom every year since his prediction that David Carr would lead the team to the Super Bowl in 2002 (yes, he called a Super Bowl run in the expansion season). This is just the year the lines cross on the graph of his annual doom prediction since the dissapointment of 2002.

:) I wonder if he'd been PM'ing Oilers/Texans. :stirpot:

Blake
01-14-2006, 10:42 PM
I donno...Ibar sold gloom and doom every year since his prediction that David Carr would lead the team to the Super Bowl in 2002 (yes, he called a Super Bowl run in the expansion season). This is just the year the lines cross on the graph of his annual doom prediction since his initial dissapointment of 2002.

Thats my take as well. You can only call tails so many times, before the coin lands on tails.

Plus its an easy thing to say.

I said we would do bad....We did bad.

I said we would do bad....We did good. Oh well, my team won.

michaelm
01-14-2006, 11:48 PM
Even a broken clock is right twice a day...:cool:

Ibar_Harry
01-15-2006, 12:30 AM
Fair assessment in retrospect.

Thanks, I appreciate the look. Vinny and others, however, don't like me to be shown perhaps in somewhat of a good light. I have watched a lot of football for a lot of years. I'm not always a doom and gloom guy. However, when you watched what was happening to the ball club and you watched the reaction of the coaching staff you couldn't help but see the hand writing on the wall.

Vinny does not like Carr and he constantly expresses that. Its funny, because while I support Carr at this point I'm not certain what his capabilities are. We have seen 1 qtr where he called the plays rather than coaches and we scored a franchise record for a qtr. Is that a fluke or is that his true ability shinning through a rather dismal overcast season. Then there are the coaches who have visited with Mr McNair hoping to become the new head coach. They say Carr is not the problem. Many of these coaches we have played against so I'm certain that not only have they reviewed what Carr can do, but so have the rest of the coaches for these respective opposing teams. So I can only conclude that Carr appears to be possibly better than Vinny and others think, but we really don't know.

AJ is nowhere near the receiver he has been projected to be or should be. Is that AJ's fault? I don't think so. The coaching he has had, as well as the rest of the recievers including those let go, sucks. That simply is putting it mildly.

You could go on and on in this vain, but the problem was nobody wanted to call out the coaching staff. You could see a trend and it wasn't a good one. I, for one, was very upset after McNair said the O-line would be fixed after Carr went to him. How could the coaching staff ignore Mr McNair like that or perhaps even worse, lie to him. McNair was ignored and you could again see the hand writing was on the wall. There were comments coming out and players being released. I still say the injuries in year 2 were a big factor in what we have seen. We simply never recovered from those injuries. But I remain a lone wolf in the dark with respect to that being a factor.

To be honest with you if Mr. McNair is unable to come up with a top notch coaching staff, I don't care whether you have VY, Bush, or anyone else you want to tout we will simply be going nowhere. I keep saying there's no cap on coaching, so let the money fly. With the Cap the way it is in the NFL, the best coaches are the ones who seem to be constantly winning. Pretty much year in and year out its the same set of coaches whose teams rise to the top.

Well, once again, thanks and lets all hope that Mr. McNair finds the right set of coaches so we all can become overly optomistic once again. Its fun to think you have a shot at reaching the SB. I guess may be we should try the playoffs 1st. But we should have been thinking about a lot more than the playoffs by now.

Big B Texan Fan
01-15-2006, 12:34 AM
Even a broken clock is right twice a day...:cool:
Every blind squirll will eventually stumble across an acorn

TexansTrueFan
01-15-2006, 01:27 AM
sometimes u lose
sometimes you win
hell miss cleos even wrong
every now and then