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infantrycak
05-05-2004, 12:30 AM
From AboutFootball:

1. New England Patriots
Cory Dillon filled the Super Bowl Champs' biggest need.
2. Philadelphia Eagles
Added Jevon Kearse and Terrell Owens to a team that has made three-straight trips to the NFC Championship game.
3. Green Bay Packers
Solid offensive line, great running game, an adequate defense, and Brett Favre will keep them in contention.
4. Carolina Panthers
Not sure they can repeat the success of last year, but some nice additions should have them back in the playoff hunt.
5. Indianapolis Colts
Still sorely missing a run-stuffing defensive tackle.
6. Tennessee Titans
Steve McNair just seems to find ways to win. The Titans will be in the hunt again this year.
7. Kansas City Chiefs
Added some nice draft picks, but the Chiefs have done little to improve a defense that collapsed late last year.
8. Denver Broncos
Could be one of the most improved teams this year.
9. St. Louis Rams
With Bulger firmly entrenched as the starter, the Rams should rid themselves of Warner and the distractions of a QB controversy.
10. Dallas Cowboys
Only time will tell if they regret passing on Steven Jackson.
11. Baltimore Ravens
The Ravens didn't get the receiver they wanted, but they are still a very solid team.
12. Cincinnati Bengals
Losing Cory Dillon might be a plus for this team.
13. Minnesota Vikings
A lot depends on turning the defense around. Could be a Super Bowl run or another 9-7 collapse.
14. Seattle Seahawks
If the Seahawks can improve a pass defense that was among the worst in the game, they should make the playoffs.
15. Miami Dolphins
I'm not sure A.J. Feeley's the answer here.
16. Washington Redskins
Have the Redskins learned from past mistakes or will this be a repeat of recent seasons?
17. New York Jets
The return of Chad Pennington should return the Jets to playoff contenders.
18. Jacksonville Jaguars
With a solid run defense and what will soon be one of the top quarterbacks in the league, the future looks bright in Jacksonville.
19. Chicago Bears
Looks like another solid draft, but so much depends on the play of a second-year QB.
20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
The Bucs had a huge turnover in personnel. Could take a while for everyone to get on the same page.
21. Atlanta Falcons
A full season with Michael Vick automatically moves these guys up a few notches.
22. Houston Texans
This is the year the young guys should come together. Keep an eye on this team. Could be their first playoff run.
23. San Francisco 49ers
With Garcia and Owens gone, the Niners don't have a proven pass combo anymore.
24. Buffalo Bills
If Bledsoe doesn't bounce back from a bad season, the Bills will be at the bottom of the division again.
25. Cleveland Browns
Run defense still looks very questionable.
26. Oakland Raiders
Additions to the offensive line should help keep Gannon healthy, but there are still plenty of questions to answer.
27. Pittsburgh Steelers
Roethlisberger is a tremendous addition for the future, but if the Steelers are going to make a playoff run this year, Maddox must have a consistent season.
28. New York Giants
Look for a long losing season as Eli adjusts to the big leagues.
29. New Orleans Saints
Did little to address their biggest need... cornerback.
30. Detroit Lions
This team appears to be on the rebound, but they are still a year away from a serious playoff run.
31. Arizona Cardinals
As with the Lions, this is a team heading in the right direction, but still at least a season away.
32. San Diego Chargers
Still lots of holes to fill and a rookie QB to break in.

As I recall, the Texans were ranked from 30-32 before last season. Pretty good jump to 22.

Reddevil63
05-05-2004, 01:04 AM
Not sure why the Jags are ahead of us though, we split the series last season and had the same record with a harder schedule.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
05-05-2004, 01:05 AM
i think the Ravens are definitely a top 5 team. they have one of the youngest rosters in the league and they didnt lose anyone important in the offseason. they added Kevin Johnson who is a reliable receiver, Devard Darling and Clarence Moore. as good as their defense was last season, its only getting better. The most important addition they made this offseason was bringing in Jim Fassel who should help with their offensive playcalling and with the development of Kyle Boller.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
05-05-2004, 01:08 AM
i dont know why the Redskins are ranked so high. sure they brought in some nice players but they do this every year and still end up in the cellar.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
05-05-2004, 04:18 AM
It could have something to do with 27-0. :bag:



LOL dont remind us. :bag:

BigTex
05-05-2004, 08:45 AM
The Redskins always do this, they sign alot of people in the offseason Washington get's there hopes up on a big season and once again they BITE the DUST. I would like to see Washington win but I don't see it that likely

pittbull
05-05-2004, 08:53 AM
This is due to them being an NFL team longer. The expansion team will always get left off the list. Too unpredictable! But predict this......Texans make the playoffs this season! Write it in stone. Take it to Vegas. Start buying the tickets. You guys get the drift!

infantrycak
05-05-2004, 08:53 AM
Not sure why the Jags are ahead of us though, we split the series last season and had the same record with a harder schedule.

It may also have to do with the fact that we won 2 of the last 8 games and they won 4 of their last 8.

V Man
05-05-2004, 10:02 AM
Two things:

1. Like everyone has said Jaguars that much ahead of us. :(

and

2. The Cowgirls #10, come one #15 maybe but not top ten. :um:

El Tejano
05-05-2004, 10:09 AM
Power rankings mean nothing. Miami had a great power ranking last year at this time and they stayed home and watched the playoffs like us. Power rankings are opinions and nothing more. The real power rankings come in the win loss column.

TheOgre
05-05-2004, 10:35 AM
I think the Redskins will turn it around this season or next. Gibbs succeeds at EVERYTHING he does. Unfortunately, their cap situation will be so horrible by 2007, that the roster will be chalked full of minimum salaried guys.

geka
05-05-2004, 10:59 AM
Power rankings are opinions and nothing more.
Opinions are so much more. When people think we are good we start getting MNF games.
:carrot: :coolb: :dance:


untill then we are stuck with nothing or maybe we get thrown a bone with a sunday nighter.

When more have higher opinions of us we will get more late kick off games, that we have all have a much better time tailgating at.

V Man
05-05-2004, 11:08 AM
If we would have won a couple of the late 4th quarter losses, we might be on MNF this year. I bet the execs at ABC would love to have a Texan/titan match-up on Monday night, but they need to be sure it will be a competive game. So if we win more games this year and knock off the titans once, I can see us on MNF next year. :hyper:

Blake
05-05-2004, 11:18 AM
That would be nice. Or a jag/texan game. 2 teams on the rise. head to head.

geka
05-05-2004, 01:58 PM
Wednesday, May 5


Power Rankings: Pats open on top

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ESPN.com's Power Poll
This week's rankings were determined by a poll of ESPN.com's NFL staff -- senior
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writers John Clayton, Len Pasquarelli and ESPN.com NFL editors Peter Lawrence-Riddell and James C. Black. Click here to send in a comment.
The 2004 season is still more than four months away (Colts at Patriots, Sept. 9), but with the draft in the rear-view mirror and the free-agent market mostly dried up, we figured it was time for some Power Rankings.
Unlike the last time they won the Super Bowl, the Patriots are heading into the 2004 season as the clear favorites. The same can't be said for the Panthers, who are looking up at three other NFC teams, including one team in their own division (Falcons) that only won five games last season.

The Raiders and Redskins both made big moves up the rankings after busy offseasons. Washington has fooled us before in the offseason, but this time we're betting on Joe Gibbs. As for teams heading in the opposite direction, the 49ers dropped all the way to No. 31 after an offseason that saw them lose Jeff Garcia and Terrell Owens.


2004 Power Rankings: Offseason

1 Patriots 14-2-0 Corey Dillon might be a pain, but the Patriots have to figure that as long as they're winning, they can get a good season or two out of him.
2 Eagles 12-4-0 With some big offseason acquisitions -- Terrell Owens and Jevon Kearse -- it's Super Bowl or bust for Donovan McNabb and the Eagles.

3 Colts 12-4-0 We're still not sure the defense is good enough to win it all, but with Peyton Manning at QB, the Colts will be in contention at the end of the season.

4 Broncos 10-6-0 We're assuming the Mike Shanahan can find a capable back to replace at least some of Clinton Portis' production.

5 Chiefs 13-3-0 Doesn't look like the defense got any better which isn't a good thing.

6 Seahawks 10-6-0 With solid additions on defense (Bobby Taylor and Grant Wistrom) and a young, explosive offense, the Seahawks enter 2004 as the favorites in the NFC West.

7 Falcons 5-11-0 Ranking is obviously high based on last season, but with a healthy Michael Vick the Falcons should be heading back to the playoffs.

8 Panthers 11-5-0 Another run for the Cats or the next franchise to go from Super Bowl to subpar?

9 Ravens 10-6-0 Terrell Owens would have really helped on a team that still figures to struggle throwing the ball.

10 Titans 12-4-0 One of these years, all the pounding and injuries are going to catch up to Steve McNair. Could this be the year?

11 Dolphins 10-6-0 The Dolphins are still calling Jay Fiedler their starter, but A.J. Feeley was brought in to win the job.

12 Packers 10-6-0 As long as Brett Favre is throwing the football, the Packers will be in contention in the NFC North.

13 Vikings 9-7-0 Vikings players probably still have a bitter taste in their mouths about how last season ended and a trip to the playoffs could be the only thing that will wash it away.

14 Rams 12-4-0 Marc Bulger might have made the Pro Bowl last season, but he has to be better than he was last season when he threw and NFL-high 22 INTs.

15 Cowboys 10-6-0 A veteran could be on the way, but for now, the QB situation has to be a bit of a concern for Cowboys fans.

16 Buccaneers 7-9-0 Some of the big names -- John Lynch and Warren Sapp -- might be gone, but expect the Bucs to be back in the playoff hunt.

17 Bengals 8-8-0 We're still scratching our head a little at the Chris Perry pick. Marvin Lewis is obviously smarter than we are, but it seems like there might have been some other players that would have been more of an immediate help.

18 Redskins 5-11-0 Will this be the season all of Washington's offseason spending finally pays off?

19 Raiders 4-12-0 Warren Sapp and Ted Washington should help turn around that 30th-ranked defense.

20 Jaguars 5-11-0 If the defense can maintain the level it showed last season, the Jags could be fighting for a playoff spot.

21 Bears 7-9-0 Lovie Smith has to be tempted by Kurt Warner, but we're not sure he's the right fit to mentor Rex Grossman, who doesn't need to be looking over his shoulder.

22 Saints 8-8-0 Deuce McAllister is as good as it gets at RB. But that hasn't been enough to get the Saints to the playoffs.

23 Bills 6-10-0 Willis McGahee's progress will be one of the most interesting storylines to watch this offseason.

24 Jets 6-10-0 Added speed on defense should help, but the Jets need Chad Pennington healthy from start to finish or all the speed in the world on defense won't help.

25 Lions 5-11-0 OK Joey Harrington, you've got some weapons now, so people are going to be expecting some results.

26 Steelers 6-10-0 Could another playoff miss end Bill Cowher's 12-year run in Pittsburgh?

27 Texans 5-11-0 They still have some holes, but have a potentially explosive offensive trio in David Carr, Andre Johnson and Domanick Davis.

28 Browns 5-11-0 Kellen Winslow is going to have an impact, but all that talk comparing him to LeBron James by his agents was just silly.

29 Giants 4-12-0 In this scenario the Giants would end up sending the Chargers the No. 4 pick in next year's draft.

30 Cardinals 4-12-0 Their wide receivers will be fun to watch, but the Cardinals still have a long way to go.

31 49ers 7-9-0 49ers could be fighting it out with the Cardinals this year in the NFC West -- and that's not for first place.

32 Chargers 4-12-0 The weather is great and all, but we're not sure we'd want our son playing for the Chargers, either.

V Man
05-05-2004, 02:16 PM
Talk about no respect. Number 27, if that is the case we should have drafted 5th. (I guess having one of the strongest schuedules in the NFL and going 5 and 11 with several of those loses in the last minutes of the game mean nothing to ESPN.)

But thing again I forgot about the ESPN "I love Michael Vick, please be my friend Mike" fan club (#7 give me a break, he still has no weapons). I guess they will be eating crow when we prove them wrong.

I know it sounds like I just repeating myself here. But do they not watch our games, or read the Injury report to see what the Texans played thru. I'm thru venting. But it still is a load of crud. :mad:

keyfro
05-05-2004, 02:36 PM
i don't understand how everyone thinks the titans and falcons should be ranked higher than us...with all the people the titans lost this offseason do they really expect that defense to still be that good? and how does mike vick make that much difference especially if they are going to a west cost type offense...i know he's good but not 8 games on his own good...and the chiefs will not make it to the play offs this season...their defense is still horrible and their best reciever is tony G...not gonna happen this season...not with the broncos, chargers, and raiders all getting better

Blake
05-05-2004, 02:42 PM
yeah, I agree that they are Mike Vick crazy. A 5-11 team getting the #7 power ranking? How do you base a team off of one player? It takes a team to win a championship in the NFL. Now if we were in the NBA, that would be a diff. story.

infantrycak
05-05-2004, 02:45 PM
yeah, I agree that they are Mike Vick crazy. A 5-11 team getting the #7 power ranking? How do you base a team off of one player? It takes a team to win a championship in the NFL. Now if we were in the NBA, that would be a diff. story.

I could see the power ranking for a team swing from 26 or so to 7 or vice versa based on the loss or recovery of a proven great QB like Manning, but Vick at this point is still an athlete with a lot of potential as a QB on a team that had a horrible defense and is trying to convert D's. Seems a tad bit hype based.

blockhead83
05-05-2004, 03:34 PM
We're not getting any love to be ranked 27th by ESPN. It seems like that's a line they use over and over since they don't know anything else about our team, "A potentially explosive young trio." They didn't even mention that almost our entire off season was devoted to our defense. We're going to turn some peoples heads and MAKE them notice us this season.

Blake
05-05-2004, 03:57 PM
We're not getting any love to be ranked 27th by ESPN. It seems like that's a line they use over and over since they don't know anything else about our team, "A potentially explosive young trio." They didn't even mention that almost our entire off season was devoted to our defense. We're going to turn some peoples heads and MAKE them notice us this season.

Well, im sure they're not brain dead about the texans. They live for sports. So I doubt it was due to ignorance. He must be from Missouri. The "show me" state.

blockhead83
05-05-2004, 04:00 PM
Oh I know they're very knowledgeable, just wish they'd show it with some varying commentary on the Texans.

Blake
05-05-2004, 04:03 PM
Oh I know they're very knowledgeable, just wish they'd show it with some varying commentary on the Texans.

Ahh, gotcha. Yeah, one sentence about our trio is kinda weak.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
05-05-2004, 04:40 PM
Mike Vick is the most overrated player in the NFL bar none.

infantrycak
05-05-2004, 05:37 PM
We're not getting any love to be ranked 27th by ESPN.

As far as the NFL was concerned, i.e. the draft rankings, we finished as the 23rd best team in the league last year. Seems to me the mere fact that we had an abnormally large number of 17 IR players and will be getting them back should kind of make that ranking our floor. Add to that the natural maturing of an expansion team, 2.5 solid FA's and at least two draft picks that should get a lot of play time. But hey, the Raiders are two years older, they have to bounce back and right on past 2/3rds of the league.

longhornjag
05-05-2004, 05:45 PM
He must be from Missouri. The "show me" state.
I agree completely with this. It is how it should be when teams get a bunch of new players or haven't shown they can get to the next level. However, I find it surprising teams like the Falcons, Colts, Chiefs and others are so high seeing that they really didn't improve much. All of these rankings are pointless at this point. The only ones that matter are the ones late in the season. :cool:

blockhead83
05-05-2004, 07:13 PM
True, it doesn't have any reflection on how the team will perform. I just get the impression that things like power rankings can be extrapolated to the public's perception of the team. The fact that about the only nice thing I've seen them say in the power rankings is that our offensive trio has potential just burns me up a little. We've got a great defense too, just most of it was nursing an injury last year ;). Also, it seems like alot of the teams above us did worse than we did last season, and did less to improve. It doesn't matter what other's opinions are in the end, I just get defensive easily about my #1 team :D .

EasyCo
05-06-2004, 12:43 AM
I cant believe we are at 27 on the ESPN power rankings. I guess, it is time to show them.

clandestin
05-06-2004, 01:23 AM
It'll just make it that much more sweet when we surprise them :)

FOOTBALL1999
05-19-2004, 04:53 PM
Power Rankings: Let's keep things sunny, sonny
By Pete Prisco
SportsLine.com Senior Writer
Tell Pete your opinion!


The summer is nearly here, which means it's wind-down time in the NFL. Coaches, front-office personnel and even players will get a break in a month or so before convening for training camp in late July.


Byron Leftwich could shake up the rankings with a good second pro season.(AP)
It's a time to recharge the batteries, get away from the game for a bit and then come back wired for a long, arduous season.

It's the same for many of us who cover the NFL, which means it's about to be a peaceful time, spent on the beach reading books and hitting that little round ball around the course.

It is not a time for anger, grief or nasty e-mails that feature many who would like to put my 9-iron in a place where the sun doesn't shine.

So why is it time for another SportsLine.com Power Rankings?

My bosses love them.

They provoke reader response, and plenty of hate directed at me. Nothing written on SportsLine generates as much feedback as the NFL Power Rankings.

Because we haven't put out the rankings since February, it's probably time. The offseason is nearly complete, save for June 1 cuts and signings, and the opening of camps is two months away.

The hard part with this batch of rankings is how much to take into account the 2003 season, while also looking ahead to the 2004 season.

We know there are going to be teams that come from nowhere to get deep into the playoffs. History tells us that. And there will be teams that make major falls.

The Jacksonville Jaguars might be one of those teams set to make a big rise. They have made big improvements and they showed well in the second half of 2003. If quarterback Byron Leftwich can make significant improvement -- the guess here is he will -- the Jaguars will compete in the tough AFC South.

But the tough part is ranking them now. Are they a top 15 team? Right now, they are just inside the top 15 at No. 15. Come September, that could change and they could be higher.

In doing these rankings, we had similar troubles gauging some of the other teams on the way up, while also trying to find the teams on the way down.

In a word, these Power Rankings were tricky.

So before firing off the usual nasty e-mails, take into account two things: one is the speculative nature of some of the rankings in a look-ahead mode, while the other is the most important thing of all.

It's nearly summertime. Leave me alone until at least late July or I'll never break 90 again.

P.S.: I need my 9-iron.

The rankings for May 18:

POWER RANKINGS
Current Team Previous
1 New England Patriots 1
They add Corey Dillon and end up with one of the better defensive tackles in the draft in Vince Wilfork. They are the team to beat again, but they won't win it again.
2 Denver Broncos 3
The additions of Champ Bailey, Luther Elliss and John Lynch should upgrade the defense -- if the latter two have anything left -- and Jake Plummer will be improved in his second season with the Broncos.
3 Indianapolis Colts 2
The offense is set, but there are still some major worries on defense. Until those are addressed, the offense will be asked to do too much.
4 Philadelphia Eagles 6
The additions of Terrell Owens and Jevon Kearse make this a much-improved team and might allow it to finally get past the title-game curse.
5 Seattle Seahawks 4
Now is the time for Mike Holmgren to get this team deep into the playoffs. All the pieces appear to be there.
6 Kansas City Chiefs 8
If Gunther Cunningham can work his magic with this defense, this again will be a Super contender. That's a big if.
7 Baltimore Ravens 9
The quarterback question still hangs above this group, but we believe in Kyle Boller, especially now that Jim Fassel is on the coaching staff.
8 Carolina Panthers 5
We'll keep them in the top 10 for now, even though we don't think they'll be there when the season starts. They'll be good, but not as good.
9 Tennessee Titans 15
Plenty of questions surround the defense, especially up front, but with Steve McNair at quarterback they still will be a quality team.
10 New Orleans Saints 10
Does this seem high? Probably. But the talent is there to make a legitimate playoff push. Maybe they are this year's Panthers.
11 Dallas Cowboys 11
It all hinges on the growth of Quincy Carter at the quarterback position. Rookie Julius Jones also has to show something fast at running back.
12 Atlanta Falcons 13
By the time the ball kicks off, this might be a team ranked higher. Michael Vick is back, which makes them a playoff contender, but it's the defense that has to be fixed.
13 St. Louis Rams 7
Is this the end of the Mike Martz era? Marc Bulger better be ready to show his tail-off at the end of 2003 was an aberration, not the norm.
14 Green Bay Packers 16
As long as Brett Favre is tossing spirals, they will have a chance to be a Super team. The defense has to play better.
15 Jacksonville Jaguars 23
A rising team loaded with good, young players that could actually be a playoff team. The growth of Byron Leftwich will be the key for this team.
16 Miami Dolphins 14
Yet another team that has major quarterback questions. Plus, the offensive line is rebuilt, and not exactly with five Pro Bowlers.
17 Minnesota Vikings 17
The offense again will be explosive, but the defense has to make major strides to get this team into the playoffs.
18 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 18
They've had a lot of turnover, which will make training camp the real time to put a gauge on this team. One thing's certain: Jon Gruden will have them ready to play.
19 Pittsburgh Steelers 20
The major question is at the quarterback position. Does Tommy Maddox have enough to be a solid starter again or is it time for rookie Ben Roethlisberger?
20 Washington Redskins 21
They've spent a lot of money to turn over the roster, and coach Joe Gibbs is one of the best. But is it enough?
21 Cincinnati Bengals 25
They surprised some people last year, but now they might take a step back playing a first-time starter in Carson Palmer. But it is the right move to play him.
22 Buffalo Bills 24
The defense should again be good, so now it's up to the offense to come alive under new coach Mike Mularkey.
23 Houston Texans 26
They're a year away. Dom Capers and his staff have done a nice job building this thing. They will be in most games again, possibly winning eight.
24 New York Jets 22
The offense will be better with Chad Pennington around for the entire season, but there are a lot of questions on defense.
25 Oakland Raiders 29
Who will play quarterback? Who's the top runner? How will age affect this team? There are some quality young players, but not enough of them.
26 New York Giants 12
It's going to be a tough first year for rookie Eli Manning and first-year coach Tom Coughlin. At least he'll have them playing hard.
27 Detroit Lions 30
Love the direction the offense is taking with third-year passer Joey Harrington and his bevy of skill people. Next year will be their year.
28 Chicago Bears 27
Lovie Smith has a lot of work to do with this team. Is second-year quarterback Rex Grossman ready to assume the full-time starter's role?
29 Cleveland Browns 31
Even with Jeff Garcia in as quarterback, there are still offensive line issues to go with a so-so defense.
30 Arizona Cardinals 32
If Josh McCown is what Dennis Green says he is, this team is ranked too low. We beg to differ.
31 San Francisco 49ers 19
Ken Dorsey or Tim Rattay, whoever starts, has a lot of learning to do. This will be a growing year for the 49ers.
32 San Diego Chargers 28
Marty-ball is in for a long year. We really feel sorry for LaDainian Tomlinson.

Blake
05-19-2004, 05:13 PM
winning eight? thats fine with me.

edo783
05-19-2004, 06:19 PM
At least Prisco is reasonably on target. Best thing about the low power ranking is, maybe the other teams will believe it and look past us and we can then clobber them.

DominatorDavis
05-19-2004, 06:56 PM
the power rankings mean literally nothing. Did you see the power rankings from the beginning of last year 2003? Tampa and the Raiders #1 and #2. And where did they end up. Bumpiks. It only effects the gambling line, over and under, and our preconcieved notions of who *should* be the best. And that is a stretch the Texans winning 8 games. Where and who would they get them from???? Lookin at it I see 6 maybe 7 at best. Who knows, they could take this year (doubtfully) and only win 3. shrug. Lets just play the season and see.....

Blake
05-19-2004, 06:58 PM
the power rankings mean literally nothing.

Everyone knows this. I was just saying it is nice to see someone predict us doing well this season. It shows that not just the fans see something in this team.