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Big B Texan Fan
01-10-2006, 02:03 PM
John and Lance reported that Vince will be on the show from 9-10 tomorrow morning. Now does this mean the whole hour or are they targeting him for a 15 min segment between 9-10? I don't know but I think it's the whole hour.

Let's use this thread to ask him some questions. I'm sure some of you guys/gals out there know Granato or Lance personally so just ask them to visit the MB's and come to this thread for some questions. Heck, I'm not too sure that some of you posters aren't John and Lance.

I'll go 1st: ***(Please try to keep to keep this thread alive by not ruining it with stupid qustions plz)*** Try to avoid the obvious question you know he'll get asked.

What is your 40 time on grass?/Are you planning to do the full workout schedule at the combine?

Headlights of a Carr
01-10-2006, 02:12 PM
John and Lance reported that Vince will be on the show from 9-10 tomorrow morning. Now does this mean the whole hour or are they targeting him for a 15 min segment between 9-10? I don't know but I think it's the whole hour.

Let's use this thread to ask him some questions. I'm sure some of you guys/gals out there know Granato or Lance personally so just ask them to visit the MB's and come to this thread for some questions. Heck, I'm not too sure that some of you posters aren't John and Lance.

I'll go 1st: ***(Please try to keep to keep this thread alive by not ruining it with stupid qustions plz)*** Try to avoid the obvious question you know he'll get asked.

What is your 40 time on grass?/Are you planning to do the full workout schedule at the combine?

Thanks for the heads up. I barely get the signal where I live. But I will be listening.:)

Fiddy
01-10-2006, 02:14 PM
Thanks for the heads up. I barely get the signal where I live. But I will be listening.:) They have an online stream: http://www.sportsradio610.com/default.asp

Look on the side: "Listen Live"


And my question: How bad do you wanna play for Houston?
If he answers that with the answer "badly," "i'll give anything," etc., he puts all the pressure in the world on the Texans...

Big B Texan Fan
01-10-2006, 02:24 PM
Question #2

How much sports radio in houston have you listened to since coming home?

Htown34s
01-10-2006, 02:39 PM
I'd ask him:

1) What he thinks he needs to do differently to become an NFL type QB.

2) What are his feelings about being under center compared to all-shotgun?

3) Would he mind sitting and learning for a year or two.

Dang, my work blocks the 610 internet feed. I hope someone will do a nice write-up of the interview afterwards!

Big B Texan Fan
01-10-2006, 04:04 PM
Do you think the Portland Trailblazers did the right thing by passing on Jordan because they already had Drexler?

beerlover
01-10-2006, 05:12 PM
:listening how about: do you honestly feel the Texans would be upgrading the QB position if you where selected and give reasons why?

BREAZE
01-10-2006, 05:50 PM
Do you think the Portland Trailblazers did the right thing by passing on Jordan because they already had Drexler?

Brilliant question...;)

tulexan
01-10-2006, 05:57 PM
How about what he thinks of the Rockets taking home town favorite Hakeem Olajuwan and getting two Championships compared to taking Michael Jordan who had six?

Lucky
01-10-2006, 07:15 PM
Would he consider a slash role his first couple of years here while learning the nuances of NFL quarterbacking?

Xman
01-10-2006, 07:17 PM
Are the following rumors true?
(ignore the fact that the rumors come from another post on this site and that it is meant as a joke)

When Vince Young does a push up, he isn't lifting himself up, he's pushing the earth down.

Vince Young is the first man to ever defeat a brick wall in a game of tennis.

In fine print at the end of the Guinness Book of World Record it states that Vince Young actually holds every world record, and those previously listed are just the closest anyone has ever gotten.

Superman owns a pair of Vince Young pajamas.

Vince Young can set ants on fire with a magnifying glass. At night.

Vince Young has counted to infinity. Twice. (my favorite)

He can't get sick because he is immune to everything, especially a pass rush.

Vince Young was once involved in a head-on car crash, and he was the only survivor. Vince Young was walking at the time.

Vince has learned 23 different languages just by listening to the last words of his victims.

Vince Young can beat aquaman in the 400m butterfly.

Vince Young is the only person in history to break out from wonder womans magic lasso.

Vince Young put sugar in speed racers gas tank.

Hellen Kellers favorite color is Vince Young.

Vince Young is actually left handed, but he is so powerful, if he threw with his good arm he would burn holes through his recievers. So he throws with his weak arm, at only 30 percent strength.

Vince Youngs tears can cure cancer....to bad he's never cried.

Vince Young did indeed build Rome in a day.

In ancient aramaic, Vince Young actually mean "saves bad coaches."

Jesus walked on water. Moses split the Red Sea. Vince Young did both before he came out of the womb, then he roundhoused Jesus and Moses.

When Vince Young picks up a football, the U.S. Terror Alert Level is raised to gold.

When 72 virgins die and go to heaven, they are rewarded with Vince Young.

Vince Young created Himself in the image of Himself.

VY sold his soul to the devil for his rugged good looks and unparalleled football skills. Shortly after the transaction was finalized, Vince juked the devil out of his horns and took his soul back. The devil, who appreciates irony, couldn't stay mad and admitted he should have seen it coming. They now play poker every second Wednesday of the month.

When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night he checks his closet for VY.

VY can touch MC Hammer.

A Handicap parking sign does not signify that this spot is for handicapped people. It is actually in fact a warning, that the spot belongs to VY and that you will be handicapped if you park there.

The sun doesn't actually rise or set. VY simply claps twice.

Achilles was supposedly the greatest warrior of all time, but he died because of his weak spot, the Achilles tendon. There is no VY tendon. You do the math.

Xman
01-10-2006, 07:19 PM
serious question:

Have you started house shopping in New Orleans yet?

HomeBred_Texan
01-10-2006, 07:22 PM
Vince, Have you found a nice home in the New Orleans area to live in next year?

or

Vince, do you like Country and Western music?

bigcarlos
01-10-2006, 08:00 PM
Are you gonna buy Casserly's home, or maybe Carr's home. :yahoo:

texansfan1974
01-11-2006, 09:20 AM
Young will be on sports 610 this morning at 9am. Sorry if this has already been posted. I did not it.

KING_HOUSTON
01-11-2006, 10:05 AM
Hes coming up!!

Texan Asylum
01-11-2006, 10:08 AM
Hey, is there an internet site to play that station on? HELP

Errant Hothy
01-11-2006, 10:10 AM
Ask and ye shall recieve:

http://www.sportsradio610.com/

Vinny
01-11-2006, 10:22 AM
He said it was between the Horns and Miami when he was recruited.

Errant Hothy
01-11-2006, 10:23 AM
"It's another Vincerffic day here in Vinceton, Texas. All Vince all the time."

LOL

texan279
01-11-2006, 10:43 AM
Some guy on 610 now actually just said Vince is better now than Earl Campbell was...:brickwall

texan279
01-11-2006, 10:46 AM
OMG Vince just said that Carr needs to move around quicker and get rid of the ball quicker! Note to Cass...Sign Riley to a 5 year deal put him at LT, keep McKinney at C, Wade at RT, draft Young with the 1st pick, and we'll see what he says in 2-3 years...

Peldon
01-11-2006, 10:48 AM
OMG Vince just said that Carr needs to move around quicker and get rid of the ball quicker! Note to Cass...Sign Riley to a 5 year deal put him at LT, keep McKinney at C, Wade at RT, draft Young with the 1st pick, and we'll see what he says in 2-3 years...

He said "sometimes" which is true.

BREAZE
01-11-2006, 10:49 AM
VY said that its not what you do on the field with your O-line, but what goes on off the field that's most important. He used to hang out with the O-line a bunch and take them out to lunch.

Cambell used to buy Rolexes for his linemen as well. Just thought I would bring that up since we want to bring his name into all of this...

texan279
01-11-2006, 10:51 AM
He said "sometimes" which is true.

Well Vince needs to realize this is the NFL, he has not played a down in this league. He also needs to realize that he played behind a helluva a line at UT, he had all day behind that line. Let him play behind our line for a season and see what he says.

gwallaia
01-11-2006, 10:51 AM
Earl Campbell used to buy his offensive linemen steaks.

texan279
01-11-2006, 10:52 AM
Earl Campbell used to buy his offensive linemen steaks.

I think our O line needs to be buying Carr steaks and Rolexes...

BREAZE
01-11-2006, 10:54 AM
I think our O line needs to be buying Carr steaks and Rolexes...
A weekend spas...

Kaiser Toro
01-11-2006, 10:58 AM
I think our O line needs to be buying Carr steaks and Rolexes...

I look it as a symbiotic relationship that did not work for either party. The line was not good enough to bail out Carr and Carr was not good enough to bail out the Line. They are both overpaid.

nunusguy
01-11-2006, 11:03 AM
Dang, what an unfortunate time not to be a UT grad. This sentimental
journey down memory lane about all the UT games, opponents, gosh
I'm almost in tears. I'd be sobbing, I'm sure, had I gone to UT even a
single semester.

J-Man
01-11-2006, 11:04 AM
I don't mind Vince being drafted...but I don't like the tone of his comments. Until he has ever taken an NFL snap he should reserve judgement...I guess I'm old fashion.

texan279
01-11-2006, 11:05 AM
I look it as a symbiotic relationship that did not work for either party. The line was not good enough to bail out Carr and Carr was not good enough to bail out the Line. They are both overpaid.

How does a QB "bail out" an offensive line? I thought the purpose of the offensive line was to protect the QB?

BREAZE
01-11-2006, 11:05 AM
I look it as a symbiotic relationship that did not work for either party. The line was not good enough to bail out Carr and Carr was not good enough to bail out the Line. They are both overpaid.

I guess before you shell out the dough you should 1st respect the other party...this seems to be lacking. Maybe new lineman or a new...nevermind...

Texans_Chick
01-11-2006, 11:25 AM
I missed part of that, is it right that he is having a relative/buddy of his being his agent?????

Because it is easy to work the contracts in the NFL???

Hmmm, maybe he should talk to T.O. and Ricky Williams about that.

Hope it works out for him.

Kaiser Toro
01-11-2006, 11:26 AM
How does a QB "bail out" an offensive line? I thought the purpose of the offensive line was to protect the QB?

No penalties, goes the extra "yard" and finds a man to block, Center calls the right audible, picks up the QB off the ground after a sack, run.

Vinny
01-11-2006, 11:26 AM
I missed part of that, is it right that he is having a relative/buddy of his being his agent?????

Because it is easy to work the contracts in the NFL???

Hmmm, maybe he should talk to T.O. and Ricky Williams about that.

Hope it works out for him.I thought he had the same agent as Steve McNair.

texan279
01-11-2006, 11:27 AM
I missed part of that, is it right that he is having a relative/buddy of his being his agent?????

Because it is easy to work the contracts in the NFL???

Hmmm, maybe he should talk to T.O. and Ricky Williams about that.

Hope it works out for him.

I think it's his uncle or cousin who is his agent, and the more I listen to Young the less I want him here...

Texans_Chick
01-11-2006, 11:27 AM
I thought he had the same agent as Steve McNair.

That's what I thought too.

But then when they introduced him on air, it was a different name. I dint catch it cuz I had other stuff going on.

GoneTexan
01-11-2006, 11:28 AM
They have an online stream: http://www.sportsradio610.com/default.asp

Look on the side: "Listen Live"


And my question: How bad do you wanna play for Houston?
If he answers that with the answer "badly," "i'll give anything," etc., he puts all the pressure in the world on the Texans...

Thanks Fiddy... from Sunny San Diego!
"VY- from declaring going pro news conference... regaring MONEY,MONEY,MONEY and earning it and not complaining... Would you have your contract be based on incentive goals to show management your potentials, rather then upfront money?

Go Texans!:redtowel:

Vinny
01-11-2006, 11:28 AM
How does a QB "bail out" an offensive line? I thought the purpose of the offensive line was to protect the QB?All great QB's help out their line and help them by sliding in the pocket. Every lineman has their back to the QB and if you don't have a clue where the QB is then the only people that know where he is is the QB and the DEFENSIVE player...not the lineman. Time and time again I have seen Carr move to a spot where it is impossible for the lineman to make up the ground to get between him and the defender.

GoneTexan
01-11-2006, 11:30 AM
They have an online stream: http://www.sportsradio610.com/default.asp

Look on the side: "Listen Live"


And my question: How bad do you wanna play for Houston?
If he answers that with the answer "badly," "i'll give anything," etc., he puts all the pressure in the world on the Texans...


HE JUST SAID IT! :yahoo:

Vinny
01-11-2006, 11:30 AM
I think it's his uncle or cousin who is his agent, and the more I listen to Young the less I want him here...I have the same urge when I see you post about Carr and hate on Young.

:tv:

Jack Bauer
01-11-2006, 11:33 AM
Vince said he wants to be a Texan. (obvious statement of the day) When asked if the Texans don't take him and if he goes to the Titans: I'll look forward to the Texans games every year! (paraphrase)

Scary! :eek:

That being said, I still haven't made up my mind for the pick. Vince sure is convincing though! He will be a winner in the NFL.

Texans_Chick
01-11-2006, 11:33 AM
I think it's his uncle or cousin who is his agent, the more I listen to Young the less I want him here...

I dunno. He's funny and seemed pretty football saavy.

The problem with having someone inexperienced work on contractual issues is that they often are insecure with what they know and don't know, and can slow things up because they don't want to be taken advantage of.

That being said, teams have taken advantage of inexperienced relative agents before.

And sometimes that sort of thing works out OK.

He and his relatives would make more money (endorsements etc) with a quality agent though.

dirty steve
01-11-2006, 11:33 AM
Not that I am advocating VY to Texans, but I was impressed how he constantly said that he has tried to keep himself surrounded by the right people and in the right situations.

Jack Bauer
01-11-2006, 11:34 AM
the more I listen to Young the less I want him here...

Wow, it is just the opposite for me.

texan279
01-11-2006, 11:35 AM
All great QB's help out their line and help them by sliding in the pocket. Every lineman has their back to the QB and if you don't have a clue where the QB is then the only people that know where he is is the QB and the DEFENSIVE player...not the lineman. Time and time again I have seen Carr move to a spot where it is impossible for the lineman to make up the ground to get between him and the defender.

I can understand a QB helping out, I just can't understand a QB bailing out an offensive line. I was thinking he meant by picking up a block missed by the O line or something, I think I am just trying to read too much into stuff now on no sleep...:dontknowa

Texans_Chick
01-11-2006, 11:35 AM
Not that I am advocating VY to Texans, but I was impressed how he constantly said that he has tried to keep himself surrounded by the right people and in the right situations.


And work hard.

The diference between MJ and other talented athletes is that he kept working on improving himself.

Just about every time he talks, he talks about the importance of hard work.

Vinny
01-11-2006, 11:36 AM
I dunno. He's funny and seemed pretty football saavy.

The problem with having someone inexperienced work on contractual issues is that they often are insecure with what they know and don't know, and can slow things up because they don't want to be taken advantage of.

That being said, teams have taken advantage of inexperienced relative agents before.

And sometimes that sort of thing works out OK.

He and his relatives would make more money (endorsements etc) with a quality agent though.Andre Johnson did it and I don't think he has been hurt by it.

chuckm
01-11-2006, 11:37 AM
Andre Johnson did it and I don't think he has been hurt by it.


is this something you would endorse as a matter of practice?

Texans_Chick
01-11-2006, 11:38 AM
Andre Johnson did it and I don't think he has been hurt by it.

But VY has the potential of being a GI-normous marketing guy--way beyond AJ. Hopefully, they get some help with that.

Glacier
01-11-2006, 11:39 AM
I dunno. He's funny and seemed pretty football saavy.

The problem with having someone inexperienced work on contractual issues is that they often are insecure with what they know and don't know, and can slow things up because they don't want to be taken advantage of.

That being said, teams have taken advantage of inexperienced relative agents before.

And sometimes that sort of thing works out OK.

He and his relatives would make more money (endorsements etc) with a quality agent though.


His official agent is the same guy who represents Brent Farve and Steve McNair, I thought?

Vinny
01-11-2006, 11:39 AM
is this something you would endorse as a matter of practice?no but baseless speculation is just what it is...none of us know what is going on so it really doesn't matter. All I did was point out one of our own that did the same thing...and from what I understand AJ can still order cheese on his whopper, and it doesn't cringe at the inflated price point.

Texans_Chick
01-11-2006, 11:40 AM
His official agent is the same guy who represents Brent Farve and Steve McNair, I thought?


That is what I thought too from media reports.

But the guy that was in the studio was not that guy. I din't catch his name but it was different.

Please, anyone correct me if I misheard.

chuckm
01-11-2006, 11:41 AM
no but baseless speculation is just what it is....

I couldn't agree more ..... :redtowel:

Kaiser Toro
01-11-2006, 11:41 AM
I dunno. He's funny and seemed pretty football saavy.

The problem with having someone inexperienced work on contractual issues is that they often are insecure with what they know and don't know, and can slow things up because they don't want to be taken advantage of.

That being said, teams have taken advantage of inexperienced relative agents before.

And sometimes that sort of thing works out OK.

He and his relatives would make more money (endorsements etc) with a quality agent though.

My two cents.

It is much different in the NFL than in the NBA. The NBA is easy due to strict guidelines on what the 1st year contract will yield by where the player is picked. Moreover, guaranteed money comes into play. The good agents make thier money off endorsements and make their money on the second contract in the NBA. In the NFL it is about the signing bonus and understanding the teams cap situation. He will need experienced folks helping him out.

Jack Bauer
01-11-2006, 11:43 AM
His official agent is the same guy who represents Brent Farve and Steve McNair, I thought?

From what I heard, he hired Bus Cook. I also heard that his uncle would be on the management team. I didn't catch the name this morning either.

chuckm
01-11-2006, 11:44 AM
From what I heard, he hired Bus Cook. I also heard that his uncle would be on the management team. I didn't catch the name this morning either.


whoever ..... he seems intelligent enough to make sure he's well represented ... a least he didn't hire a rapper buddy

Jack Bauer
01-11-2006, 11:55 AM
From what I heard, he hired Bus Cook. I also heard that his uncle would be on the management team. I didn't catch the name this morning either.

FYI, The guy that was with Vince this morning was Major Adams, an attorney from Houston. I am not sure if this is his agent or if he actually hired Bus Cook (McNair's agent).

idonno:

Texans_Chick
01-11-2006, 11:55 AM
They are talking about it some more: Major Adams.

Prior to the draft he was described as the family's attorney:

http://http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:91hFejABlUEJ:www.kvue.com/sports/ut/stories/010806kvueyoung2-eh.5a6b3a81.html+%22major+adams%22+vince&hl=en

The way it was being described in the radio was that he was the agent, and that Adams said it was easy to do because the rookie contracts are pretty much set.

I hope he is just a part of a team, but it sounded like he was going to be the agent.

texansfaninla
01-11-2006, 11:55 AM
I didn't hear the interview. Did it sound like he threw Carr under the bus? Just asking, not trying to imply anything there. I'm just kind of surprised he would make statements critical of Carr just a few days after declaring for the draft.

Jack Bauer
01-11-2006, 11:57 AM
I didn't hear the interview. Did it sound like he threw Carr under the bus? Just asking, not trying to imply anything there. I'm just kind of surprised he would make statements critical of Carr just a few days after declaring for the draft.

He didn't throw Carr under the bus. Lance and John pressed him to answer and he made a general comment about how sometimes you have to get rid of the ball sooner or move in the pocket.

Dr. Toro
01-11-2006, 11:58 AM
No, initially he dodged the question. He just said quarterbacks need to do little things for their linemen in protection to avoid sacks. He followed up his comments with something like, "who am I to say anything".

texansfaninla
01-11-2006, 11:58 AM
Okay. Just asking. Thanks for the info.

texan279
01-11-2006, 12:01 PM
I have the same urge when I see you post about Carr and hate on Young.

:tv:

Vinny, I can see how you might take my comments towards Vince as hate, but trust me they are not. In fact if you check my posts the night of the Rose Bowl I posted several times how impressed I was with his performance. That was the first time I sat and watched an entire UT game, as I don't watch college ball much if ever. But I was impressed. My take on the situation is that I do not think it is fair to kick Carr to the curb after the 4 years of abuse he has endured here becuase of our front office's lack of attention to our offensive line and poor coaching. And I can honestly say right now I have no clue was to what I want us to do come draft day. I have never been so mixed on a decision as I am now, and thank God I do not have to make this decision. And sure I defend Carr, because when someone tries to blame him for the failure of our offense or our team as a whole and can only back it up with "Carr sucks", to me that is ridiculous. I just want to see what Carr can do with at least an average offesive line for just one full season before I call him a bust or get ready to run him out of town is all. And P.S. No I don't hate Vince! He single handedly beat USC!

beerlover
01-11-2006, 12:03 PM
All great QB's help out their line and help them by sliding in the pocket. Every lineman has their back to the QB and if you don't have a clue where the QB is then the only people that know where he is is the QB and the DEFENSIVE player...not the lineman. Time and time again I have seen Carr move to a spot where it is impossible for the lineman to make up the ground to get between him and the defender.

I just cannot let this comment disappear into forum lore without a strong recommendation of support. Vinny has been saying the same thing for the last two seasons. It has become apparent that David Carr lacks good pocket awareness and makes poor decisions that reflect not only bad on himself but his lineman as well.

To Vince credit he did not want to address this specificly & would only say he needs to move quicker in the pocket and get the ball out faster. It is my personel opinion that our line is not as bad as people seem to think but rather it reflects the poor play calling and exacution of its current signal caller :cool:

Vinny
01-11-2006, 12:09 PM
Vinny, I can see how you might take my comments towards Vince as hate, but trust me they are not.just giving you a virtual noogie.. :yahoo:

Thanks BL

Errant Hothy
01-11-2006, 12:11 PM
I thought the best point was made by the guys just a minute or two ago. They basically said that the team CANNOT go wrong with either pick.

People need to stop the Jordan/Bowie comparissons and relalize that both guys are among the top prospects in the last decade.

But then again they said the city hadn't been this enrgized in a long time.

Meh!!! I really don;t know who they should pick or even who I want them to pick, but is will be fun around here till the draft.

texan279
01-11-2006, 12:13 PM
I thought the best point was made by the guys just a minute or two ago. They basically said that the team CANNOT go wrong with either pick.

People need to stop teh Jordan/Bowie comparissons and relalize that both guys are among the top prospects in the last decade.

But then again they said the city hadn't been this enrgized in a long time.

Meh!!! I really don;t know who they should pick or even who I want them to pick, but is will be fun around here till the draft.

If this turns into a Jordan/Bowie thing, Cass will either be hailed as a genius forever or the City of Houston will be burned to the ground!

Porky
01-11-2006, 12:14 PM
I just cannot let this comment disappear into forum lore without a strong recommendation of support. Vinny has been saying the same thing for the last two seasons. It has become apparent that David Carr lacks good pocket awareness and makes poor decisions that reflect not only bad on himself but his lineman as well.

To Vince credit he did not want to address this specificly & would only say he needs to move quicker in the pocket and get the ball out faster. It is my personel opinion that our line is not as bad as people seem to think but rather it reflects the poor play calling and exacution of its current signal caller :cool:

I would also like to add my endorsement of Beerlover and Vinny's take on this. Carr sacks himself half the time. I think Carr led the league in QB sacks last year, and broke Strahorn's record. Put Tom Brady behind the same line, and the sacks drop in half or close to it. The line isn't great, but it isn't as bad as it appears either due to poor QB play. I also think they will benefit with a good line coach and scheme. People see the sack numbers and ASSUME that the lineman all stink. TE's, RB's, and QB's ALL play a role in QB protection, but don't tell that to the Carr supporters. :brickwall

BREAZE
01-11-2006, 12:20 PM
I think it's his uncle or cousin who is his agent, and the more I listen to Young the less I want him here...


At least you don't have a motive. Maybe if he rolled with the wrong people and had more street cred. you would like what he said more.

I listened and am having a hard time pinpointed what he said that was wrong...he's sounds too good to be true, maybe that is rubbing you the wrong way...

BREAZE
01-11-2006, 12:21 PM
I thought the best point was made by the guys just a minute or two ago. They basically said that the team CANNOT go wrong with either pick.


This is the point many don't get, or they don't want to accept...

beerlover
01-11-2006, 12:25 PM
one of the more interesting responses was when asked if he (Vince) thought USC still had a chance to score (I believe there was around 16 sec. left) Vince responded that he was worried when Reggie got underneath and was running in the open field, but then surprised/relieved me when he ran out of bounds.

I was thinking the same thing :hmmm: at the time. I know there was only 8 seconds left but he had the ball in his hands near midfiled with only one defender between him and a National Championship and he ran out of bounds. could be just me but I got the sense from Vince this was not the utlimate warrior move from the guy that beat him 2:1 in the Heisman Trophy voting :whistle:

travfrancis
01-11-2006, 12:27 PM
"They basically said that the team CANNOT go wrong with either pick."

I strongly disagree.

Errant Hothy
01-11-2006, 12:31 PM
"They basically said that the team CANNOT go wrong with either pick."

I strongly disagree.

Why? Give me some reasons to agree with you and not nearly every writer, and I mean the good ones like Gosslin, in America.

one of the more interesting responses was when asked if he (Vince) thought USC still had a chance to score (I believe there was around 16 sec. left) Vince responded that he was worried when Reggie got underneath and was running in the open field, but then surprised/relieved me when he ran out of bounds.

I wouldn't be surprised if Carroll had ingrained in his head that he needed to get out of bounds in that situation. I was more releived then surprised when Bush went out of bounds.

If he hadn't gone OB and tried to score and had failed, and removed all time form the clock what would the media, and this MB, be saying then?

beerlover
01-11-2006, 12:37 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Carroll had ingrained in his head that he needed to get out of bounds in that situation. I was more releived then surprised when Bush went out of bounds.

If he hadn't gone OB and tried to score and had failed, and removed all time form the clock what would the media, and this MB, be saying then?

probably the same thing they would have said about Vince if he didn't make it on 4th & 5, but he made it, won the game and the rest is as they say History & to the victor goes all the spoils :yahoo:

tulexan
01-11-2006, 12:41 PM
Maybe if Pete Carroll didn't call a timeout to prepare for a 2 point conversion, Reggie could have cut back inside.

Errant Hothy
01-11-2006, 12:58 PM
probably the same thing they would have said about Vince if he didn't make it on 4th & 5, but he made it, won the game and the rest is as they say History & to the victor goes all the spoils :yahoo:

No doubt, but if he had failed and Bush had succeded how different would things be around here, assuming VY still declared?

But my main point was, by going OB Bush did what everybody would say was teh smart/right decscion. It's just what you do in that situation.

Honoring Earl 34
01-11-2006, 01:01 PM
:tv: Winners don't have to explain , they make it . If you hear to many exlanations it may be time for a change .

BREAZE
01-11-2006, 01:06 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Carroll had ingrained in his head that he needed to get out of bounds in that situation. I was more releived then surprised when Bush went out of bounds.

Did Carroll tell him to push Leinart into the endzone during the Notre Dame game? Just trying to keep things fair.

Both players will make this team better as would trading down...

Wolfman's Brother
01-11-2006, 01:17 PM
Did Carrol tell him to try that latteral?

If that had worked like Young's lateral worked and if he had turned upfield instead of OB and if USC won there would certanly be a different tune in Houston. This is why you cannot judge on just one game. I agree both are going to be stars and it is up to the other 50 odd players on the team to come together and win. This ain't tennis or golf its a team sport.

BREAZE
01-11-2006, 01:24 PM
My point is so many get wrapped up in "what if's" rather that "what is"...many want to pick apart a specific game rather than look at the whole package.

"What if" Carr had a better line...would we be having this debate? We don't know, he haven't seen it yet. We all want to assume things to be true if this happens/happened, etc.. If it was that easy we would all be in Vegas with money up to our ears.

"What if's" mean nothing...

tulexan
01-11-2006, 01:29 PM
"What if" Carr had a better line...would we be having this debate?

No we wouldn't because when he has time and more than one receiver on the field at the same time, he performs.

It's pretty hard to throw for a lot of yards, touchdowns, and win games when you have to be in max protect almost every play and the DL can still penetrate the line by sending a 4 man rush. That leaves 1 maybe 2 receivers to be defended by 7 defenders.

Big B Texan Fan
01-11-2006, 01:33 PM
That's why they play the game.

Fiddy
01-11-2006, 03:00 PM
The interview for people who didnt hear it:
http://www.sportsradio610.com/goout.asp?u=http://www.angelfire.com/tx6/gtmtx/610am.html

Wolfman's Brother
01-11-2006, 03:04 PM
you should put that in a new thread maybe

The Dream
01-11-2006, 03:08 PM
God the man wants to play here so bad, the thing that scared me the most was when he said that he'd look forward to playing the Texans, if they pass on him and he goes to the Titans. :bomb:

travfrancis
01-11-2006, 03:49 PM
my bad wolfman's brother

Wolfman's Brother
01-11-2006, 04:11 PM
Three "ifs" in one sentence.


Funny how you took that way out of context or maybe you just coun't keep up with the discussion; When I was mocking how we can say "if this and if that." You quote me as if I were one of the speculators when in actuality we had the same argument. Pay attention.

But when it comes down to it I agree that BOTH will be stars and both will add to the team but just like the guys in the locker room feel, it's a team game not a one man show.

El Tejano
01-11-2006, 05:02 PM
As for talking about Carr, you have to understand this guy wants to play here and be drafted #1. Certainly he is going give something that shows he is better than Carr. I feel that once Mcnair talks to Young, Mcnair will know this is the guy for our team. Bush doesn't want to play here as bad as Young, why do you think it is taking Bush so long to declare?

Austin_Texans_Fan
01-11-2006, 05:55 PM
The interview for people who didnt hear it:
http://www.sportsradio610.com/goout.asp?u=http://www.angelfire.com/tx6/gtmtx/610am.html


Thanks for the link.

Tulip
01-11-2006, 10:06 PM
The interview for people who didnt hear it:
http://www.sportsradio610.com/goout.asp?u=http://www.angelfire.com/tx6/gtmtx/610am.html

Thank you so much. I was at work and couldn't listen. I'll listen to it just as soon as I can find my headphones (my other half - my insane half - isn't going to want to listen, he adamently opposes picking Young).

I did hear some of John, Lance, and Richard Justice in the early part of the 8 o'clock hour. They are convinced that the Texans are going to pick Young. As convinced as I am that the Texans NOT going to pick Young.

When the guys were promoting the Young interview yesterday morning, they said that the gentleman coming with him was "one" of Vince's agents.

The close friend/uncle thing worked really well for Andre Johnson. If I remember correctly, he fired his first two agents because they were holding out and wouldn't get the deal done. And Andre wanted to go to camp. So he hired his uncle to do the deal. And it was concluded very quickly.

The interview sounds really good. He really wants to be a Texan. That's been a really attractive quality about Gary Kubiak, so I hope the Texans get a similar feeling about Vince.

Clinging to my hope, still.....

Tulip
01-11-2006, 11:32 PM
I finally listened to the entire interview.

Favorite parts:

1. People from North Shore calling and saying, "I've been a fan of your ever since you beat my team".

2. Vince talking about calling practice sessions with his receivers 3 times a week and spending lots of time breaking down game tape with Greg Davis - learning the coach's perspective (I'm sure this is part of what makes his reads look almost instantaneous).

3. His love of H-Town and his desire to play for this team.

ghostlight
01-12-2006, 12:00 AM
Man, I'm sold . This kid has the Houston fever and there will be a new play book next year any old how.

stevo3883
01-12-2006, 12:39 AM
Vince's uncle was my football position coach in middle/high school.

nice guy. Its still funny to think about him bragging about his junior nephew at madison "who is an amazing talent".

never couldve imagined it would turn out like this