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awtysst
01-08-2006, 05:01 PM
If anyone is watching the bengals- steelers game. Palmer took a HARD shot after complelting a big pass. Looks like a shot to the knee.l Kitna will be entering the fray.

Carr Bombed
01-08-2006, 05:02 PM
That looked ugly and was a absolute cheap shot on the steelers

texan279
01-08-2006, 05:02 PM
No cheap shot, just an awkward hit.

mexican_texan
01-08-2006, 05:03 PM
He's out for the year, I guarantee it. He tore something. Time to switch from steak to lobster.

Carr Bombed
01-08-2006, 05:03 PM
oh yeah I just saw the replay, man that looks BAD!!!!

awtysst
01-08-2006, 05:05 PM
I am impressed that three of us put that info up within seconds of each other!

Carr Bombed
01-08-2006, 05:06 PM
I feel so sorry for the bengals, especially the fans, they have waited so long and didn't deserve this.....um..um..um.

Carr Bombed
01-08-2006, 05:07 PM
I am impressed that three of us put that info up within seconds of each other! as you know we are espns inside source, nobody is faster on info.

awtysst
01-08-2006, 05:10 PM
as you know we are espns inside source, nobody is faster on info.


I like that! We usually do provide more solid arguments then the pundints on espn. AND if we picked as badly as SWAMI, we would not be so proud to announce it! A barely .500 record does NOT constitute for a "another solid seasoin for the SWAM!"

mexican_texan
01-08-2006, 05:14 PM
Glad to see the Bengals sticking up for their QB. Wish the Texans cared about Carr that much.

FILO_girl
01-08-2006, 05:15 PM
Saw that hit. Hope for Palmer's sake it isn't as bad to feel as it was to watch. :ouch: :eek:

Blake
01-08-2006, 05:18 PM
No cheap shot, just an awkward hit.

Are you serious? You really believe that the DE just accidentaly fell on Palmers lower leg like that?

That was a cheap shot, and now one of the best skill players in the post season is out. He should be fined.

awtysst
01-08-2006, 05:18 PM
Saw that hit. Hope for Palmer's sake it isn't as bad to feel as it was to watch. :ouch: :eek:

I think he is doubtful to return today. A very tough break for the Bengals.

texan279
01-08-2006, 05:21 PM
Are you serious? You really believe that the DE just accidentaly fell on Palmers lower leg like that?

That was a cheap shot, and now one of the best skill players in the post season is out. He should be fined.

No he was going for the sack, it was just an awkward hit to the knee. They just showed to replay after it happened and the lineman that hit him stood there next to him until the play was over.

FILO_girl
01-08-2006, 05:24 PM
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mexican_texan
01-08-2006, 05:25 PM
Does anybody else think the Steelers aren't going for the tacke, but for the injury? I noticed a guy tried to twist a WR's ankle, but the WR stiffened his leg. This was after the play, BTW.

FILO_girl
01-08-2006, 05:25 PM
I think he is doubtful to return today. A very tough break for the Bengals.
Yep, Kitna going in. They were my pick as the sleeper this season (Bengals).

And that was NOT a cheap shot (to those who say it was). How can you say it was?

texan279
01-08-2006, 05:26 PM
Does anybody else think the Steelers aren't going for the tacke, but for the injury? I noticed a guy tried to twist a WR's ankle, but the WR stiffened his leg. This was after the play, BTW.

Nah, they're not the Jags...:)

Carr Bombed
01-08-2006, 05:26 PM
Does God hate the bengals, I'm biginning to think so. Man that is the absolute worst thing that could of happened to that team. Fans at the bengal board out out for blood, they want #7

mexican_texan
01-08-2006, 05:29 PM
It seems that Palmer's injury is for the best. the Bengals are playing agressively and passionately. Wow. I want Kitna in deep steel blue and battle red.:rolleyes:

Carr Bombed
01-08-2006, 05:29 PM
Does anybody else think the Steelers aren't going for the tacke, but for the injury? I noticed a guy tried to twist a WR's ankle, but the WR stiffened his leg. This was after the play, BTW. Despite being a playoff game, it is still a game between two divisional rivals, there is plenty of bad blood to go around. This would be like the texans and jags meeting in the playoffs.

Carr Bombed
01-08-2006, 05:31 PM
It seems that Palmer's injury is for the best. the Bengals are playing agressively and passionately. Wow. I want Kitna in deep steel blue and battle red.:rolleyes:Trust me it is not for the best. They might be emotional right now, but that doesn't last. Palmer was a bonified mvp canidate.

mexican_texan
01-08-2006, 05:31 PM
Nah, they're not the Jags...:)
well, both have ugly unis, cats as mascots, and don't know what Superbowl trophies are like.

mexican_texan
01-08-2006, 05:32 PM
This would be like the texans and jags meeting in the playoffs.
That's as likely as the Lions or Saints winning the Superbowl.

FILO_girl
01-08-2006, 05:33 PM
This would be like the texans and jags meeting in the playoffs.

I'd like to see that. :evilb:

Marcus
01-08-2006, 05:36 PM
That looked ugly and was a absolute cheap shot on the steelers

That wasn't a cheap shot, man! What game are you watching? The DL was blocked into Palmer, and was upset that Palmer was injured. Get your facts straight.

MorKnolle
01-08-2006, 05:50 PM
Are you serious? You really believe that the DE just accidentaly fell on Palmers lower leg like that?

That was a cheap shot, and now one of the best skill players in the post season is out. He should be fined.

It was an ugly play, but it was not intentional. He was blocked into Palmer, and Palmer had his knees locked after getting the ball off, and the combination of those two things is bad for a QB.

mexican_texan
01-08-2006, 05:51 PM
Tarzan had a penalty on him that reminded me of AJ against the chiefs.

Carr Bombed
01-08-2006, 06:04 PM
That wasn't a cheap shot, man! What game are you watching? The DL was blocked into Palmer, and was upset that Palmer was injured. Get your facts straight.Hey Marcus go back and read through the thread before you blast me I already said after watching the replay it wasn't. Man what thread are you reading. Get your facts straight.

mexican_texan
01-08-2006, 06:24 PM
He's out for the year, I guarantee it. He tore something. Time to switch from steak to lobster.
As I predicted, MRIs have confirmed that he has torn ligaments and its a safe bet that he will not return.

Carr Bombed
01-08-2006, 06:24 PM
torn ligaments, thats the early diagnosis, still waiting on the MRI

texan279
01-08-2006, 06:45 PM
Palmer has a torn ACL.

Carr Bombed
01-08-2006, 06:53 PM
ouch

Carr Bombed
01-08-2006, 07:43 PM
palmer has a MCL and a ACL tear ouch. his knee was pretty much shreaded

MorKnolle
01-08-2006, 07:58 PM
He will be lucky to be fully ready by training camp next season, but hopefully he will have a swift recover and be ready to continue his career.

aj.
01-08-2006, 08:50 PM
For NFL players, full recovery from torn ACL surgery is usually 9-12 months. Nine months from now is October.

cuppacoffee
01-08-2006, 09:49 PM
It was an ugly play, but it was not intentional. He was blocked into Palmer, and Palmer had his knees locked after getting the ball off, and the combination of those two things is bad for a QB.

If I read his body language correctly the D-linemam was upset. He realized that Palmer was seriously injured and he just stood there wondering what he could do to help. It was not intentional and I sensed compassion on the part of the d-lineman. There may be a few thugs in the game but overall I believe they do not intentionally seek to injure anyone.
I reserve the right to amend this statement if some ignorant GM sees fit to draft Marcus Vick. :twocents:

:coffee:

WWJD
01-08-2006, 10:06 PM
Ok. You smart football guys.

Didn't the guy from U of Miami hurt his knee like this in a bowl game and come back very quickly when it was predicted it would be a year long recovery period?

Can't remember his name but I think the Bills drafted him and he's fine as far as I know....

Perhaps Carson can do the same.

ATX
01-08-2006, 10:31 PM
Ok. You smart football guys.

Didn't the guy from U of Miami hurt his knee like this in a bowl game and come back very quickly when it was predicted it would be a year long recovery period?

Can't remember his name but I think the Bills drafted him and he's fine as far as I know....

Perhaps Carson can do the same.

That was Willis Mcgahee and he missed the entire 2003 season because of his injury.

WWJD
01-08-2006, 10:39 PM
Thanks...well I was semi right...I did not realize he missed a whole year..for some reason I thought he injured himself and then played for the Bills the next year.

Well I'm always sad to hear of a top tier NFL player that has a horrible injury. Even if I don't follow the team or that player I sure hate to hear he damaged his knee so horribly.

And thanks again for the information. I am not very good with names.

Carr Bombed
01-08-2006, 10:47 PM
They just reported it was a clean tear of the acl and they think he'll be ready by training camp, so that is good news, god I hope so. I hate to see a injury like this

D-ReK
01-12-2006, 08:03 PM
ESPN News has reported that the surgeon who operated on Palmer's knee has informed Palmer that his injury is much more serious than originally thought...In fact, he thinks the injury may be career threatening...He not only has several torn ligaments, he also has damaged cartilage and a dislocated kneecap...

I hope Palmer is able to return from this...He has shown a lot of promise and I don't think Bengal fans would be able to take something like this now...

texan279
01-12-2006, 08:06 PM
ESPN News has reported that the surgeon who operated on Palmer's knee has informed Palmer that his injury is much more serious than originally thought...In fact, he thinks the injury may be career threatening...He not only has several torn ligaments, he also has damaged cartilage and a dislocated kneecap...

I hope Palmer is able to return from this...He has shown a lot of promise and I don't think Bengal fans would be able to take something like this now...

I would think the torn ligaments would be the most serious of the injuries, but I am no doctor. I too hope he can return from this injury.

texan279
01-12-2006, 08:10 PM
I found this on www.kffl.com...

Bengals | Palmer's injury could be career threatening
Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:24:04 -0800

Updating a previous report, the Associated Press reports the knee injury suffered by Cincinnati Bengals QB Carson Palmer (knee) could be career threatening. His surgeon said Thursday, Jan. 12, that the injury was "devastating and potentially career-ending," involving numerous ligament tears, a shredded ligament, damaged cartilage and a dislocated kneecap. "It's not just like it was a torn ACL," Dr. Lonnie Paulos said Thursday, Jan. 12, in a phone interview from Houston. "It's a magnitude more difficult to recover from and repair. It can and has ended careers, without a doubt. However, I feel very comfortable with Carson as an athlete and the heart that he's got. In the end, that's the bottom line. I can see the look in his eye already. He's ready to get going." The surgeon said the injury was off the chart. "On a scale of one to three, it was a four," he said. "It was off the chart. It was pretty badly damaged - shredded is the better term." If rehabilitation goes well, Palmer could be running in a couple of months and might be able to play in the first regular season game, Paulos said.

gwallaia
01-12-2006, 08:25 PM
This is terrible news. I would hate to see this man's career end so quickly. Get well soon Carson.

Fiddy
01-12-2006, 08:41 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2290239

ESPN story over it...hope he gets well soon.

It will be intresting to see what happens. If I'm the Bengals, I may consider holding out Palmer all of next season just for the simple fact that the knee was so badly damaged. It would be ridiculous to run him out there so soon and risk his career.

Carr Bombed
01-12-2006, 08:56 PM
Palmer has one thing going for him. He wasn't the most mobile quarterback before the injury, so if his knee can return to about 75% of what it once was he should be okay. The only question is can he heal enough where he can play pain free, because pain will eventually wear you down. In injuries like this arthritis can instantly take over, the key to this injury is to minimize as much scar tissue as humanly possible. I know about joint injuries first hand, because i've suffered them. The problem that I had the most was the build up of scar tissue, not only does it cause pain, (arthritis), but it decreases your range of motion drastically, but then again I didn't have the money nor the access to the quality of doctors Carson's going to be seeing. I wish Carson the best, he has many many many months of HARD rehabilitation to go through.

Tale Gator
01-12-2006, 09:13 PM
Just terrible news - i'd be shocked if he is ready for the start of 06' -- certainly it will be mid-season or later before he is fully comfortable on that knee (more like 07').

tulexan
01-12-2006, 09:15 PM
Wow, that is too bad. He looked like he was going to have a really promising career.

PapaL
01-12-2006, 09:30 PM
So worst case he has Dan Marino mobility? Knees are one thing you dont want to mess with, especially a young guy like Carson.

tulexan
01-12-2006, 09:33 PM
He is lucky he signed that big contract a few weeks ago.

MorKnolle
01-13-2006, 10:01 AM
It sounds like Palmer should be able to return and could be ready for the start of the season, so that is good news. It is always horrible to see someone go down with an injury like that, especially a young, rising star like Palmer. I would be amazed if he is ready for training camp and all that, I've known people that have just torn an ACL before and that kept them from running for 6 months or more, and Palmer's injury is much worse, but then again he does basically have his choice of the best doctors and rehabilitation in the country and he is a determined, professional athlete, so that should help him recover faster than most people.

supertankman
01-13-2006, 12:59 PM
I noticed that he was allready wearing a knee support brace even before the injury? Then this still happens even with the brace, ****e, Darth Vador anyone? he may need a robot knee after this; i just wonder how it happens to this guy whom has been the main ingredient for the bengals sucess. Then you look at Carr and wonder why he runs for his life, i wquld say give Carr the Iron Man award after setting the NFL record, the man has gotten his *** kicked!

MorKnolle
01-13-2006, 01:02 PM
I noticed that he was allready wearing a knee support brace even before the injury? Then this still happens even with the brace, ****e, Darth Vador anyone? he may need a robot knee after this; i just wonder how it happens to this guy whom has been the main ingredient for the bengals sucess. Then you look at Carr and wonder why he runs for his life, i wquld say give Carr the Iron Man award after setting the NFL record, the man has gotten his *** kicked!

He had a much smaller brace on his knee, and they are now saying he will wear heavier braces on both knees for the rest of his career to help prevent this kind of thing from happening. That will decrease his mobility but he was never a running QB anyways. Another thing with the braces though, if you get hit from the side like that, a heavy brace may prevent your knee from bending inwards, but if 300+ lbs. is suddenly added to your leg, something is going to give, and it may be a hip, ankle, or broken bone next time too.

texan279
01-13-2006, 01:13 PM
from www.kffl.com

Bengals | Doctor issues another statement via the team
Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:59:33 -0800

The Cincinnati Post reports Dr. Lonnie Paulos issued another statement about Cincinnati Bengals QB Carson Palmer's (knee) knee surgery via the team Thursday evening, Jan. 12. "I believe and regret that media reports, based on interviews with me, have misinterpreted my view of Carson Palmer's knee injury. Though the injury was serious, the essential facts remain that his ACL and MCL have been repaired. I would consider this a typical ACL/MCL football injury." He added that his use of "career-threatening" was about the type of surgery in general, not specifically Palmer's. "Comments attributed to me that the knee injury was "devastating and potentially career-ending" were meant to describe such injuries in general, not Carson Palmer's particular case. I was accurately quoted by the Associated Press that my bottom line is optimism regarding Carson's prognosis. With a successful rehabilitation program, he has an excellent chance of being medically cleared for play at the beginning of the 2006 NFL regular season."

mexican_texan
01-13-2006, 04:27 PM
This reminds me of an episode of Arli$$ where a young basketball player signed a huge contract moments before suffering a career ending injury...in the pregame.

tulexan
01-13-2006, 11:08 PM
I miss Arli$$. I'm glad they are replaying them on ESPN Classic now.