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tulexan
01-07-2006, 11:19 AM
Don't know if it has been posted yet.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/lopez/3571536.html

I think it is a pretty good article. Whether you like Lopez or not, you have to give the guy some credit for being consistent unlike the rest of his Chronicle cronies.

edo783
01-07-2006, 11:32 AM
Pretty good look at what is going on.

The Dream
01-07-2006, 11:33 AM
They understand that drafting Young would bring a player with amazing potential, but fans' patience would be tested as Young's game is brought along slowly after a trade of Carr. Drafting Bush would immediately put the Texans in a class with something like Cincinnati, which has Carson Palmer, Rudi Johnson and Chad Johnson.

Instant playoff contender.



First off Carr is not Carson Palmer, secondly how in the hell are you gonna say just because we pick Bush over Young, that we'll be instant playoff contenders.....in all honesty no matter if we pick up Young or Bush, I don't see us making the post season next year, there are a lot of areas we need improvement in.

sprtsfanatic
01-07-2006, 11:35 AM
def better than anything the other two bozo's ever write:ok:

Kaiser Toro
01-07-2006, 11:38 AM
Good insightful article, probably the best thing I have read from a Houston reporter this year.

sprtsfanatic
01-07-2006, 11:41 AM
First off Carr is not Carson Palmer, secondly how in the hell are you gonna say just because we pick Bush over Young, that we'll be instant playoff contenders.....in all honesty no matter if we pick up Young or Bush, I don't see us making the post season next year, there are a lot of areas we need improvement in.

He knows that this pick doesnt make us instant playoff contenders, but with help on the line and with new coaches and schemes he also sees the potential that this team should have tapped A LONG TIME AGO. And that was his point in mentioning our problems and woes, but also remember that we have more than just one pick in this years draft which seems to be a deep and talented one. The other picks should help out in filling atleast some of our troubled areas.

Texans Horror
01-07-2006, 11:52 AM
I think he is dead-on in that there are probably too many holes to fill on this team to try and fix both the offense and the defense. We will have to make due with a lot of what we have. IMO, we will see maybe ten new faces next year (not counting coaches). I am glad to hear further that the Texans are putting more stock in the coaching position. We all want to get caught up in the no. 1 discussion, but let's not overlook the biggest problem the Texans have had: coaching. That the Texans are investing 8 hours for each interview and that Dan Reeves is assisting McNair, is good news. I hope that this continues to be a positive progression. I wonder if any players are involved in this interview process.

A Texan
01-07-2006, 12:19 PM
I didn't see anything in the whole article worth reading. But that's the Chronicle for you. If the sports writers spent their time getting stories rather than expressing opinions which we don't need it would be a lot better paper.

HoustonFrog
01-07-2006, 12:24 PM
My favorite part is something that I posted last week and got attacked for because some people were on the Bush is "overrated" bandwagon. I'm glad he wrote it.

"There is hardly such a thing as a 25-carries-per-game back anymore in the NFL. Those kinds of big-bodied backs, with a few exceptions such as Seattle's Shaun Alexander and Kansas City's Larry Johnson, went out with high-top cleats.

Eight of the top 15 NFL rushers this season carried the ball 20 or fewer times per game. And of those 15, only Alexander averaged more than 22 carries, although Johnson did have five games of 30 or more carries after he became a starter."

tulexan
01-07-2006, 12:30 PM
I didn't see anything in the whole article worth reading. But that's the Chronicle for you. If the sports writers spent their time getting stories rather than expressing opinions which we don't need it would be a lot better paper.


Almost all newspapers have sports writers who express their opinions. How do you think guys like Jay Mariotti, Tony Kornheiser, Dan LeBatard, and Michael Wilbon become famous?

Vinny
01-07-2006, 12:32 PM
Columnists write OPINION people. sheesh

Reddevil63
01-07-2006, 12:41 PM
Columnists write OPINION people. sheesh
Its funny how terrible an opinion looks to you people when its not written through burnt orange colored glasses

Vinny
01-07-2006, 12:44 PM
Its funny how terrible an opinion looks to you people when its not written through burnt orange colored glassesOpinion is opinion. He can have his all he wants.....but it's just his opinion. The mean age of this forum went down into the teens with all our new posters I think. Some of the banter here after the Rose Bowl has been a bit on the "my dad can beat up your dad" side. I guess I'm just frustrated....carry on....I don't do much better myself sometimes.

CoachJim
01-07-2006, 12:54 PM
First off Carr is not Carson Palmer ...

So is it to say that in your opinion that DCarr is not as talented or has as much potential as CPalmer? Just trying to get a feel of yours (and everyone elses) opinion on Carr vs Palmer. It is my opinion that DCarr could be miles better than CPalmer if he'd been afforded a similar supporting cast from day one. Just my miserable:twocents:

Vinny
01-07-2006, 12:57 PM
So is it to say that in your opinion that DCarr is not as talented or has as much potential as CPalmer? Just trying to get a feel of yours (and everyone elses) opinion on Carr vs Palmer. It is my opinion that DCarr could be miles better than CPalmer if he'd been afforded a similar supporting cast from day one. Just my miserable:twocents:This is just me, but Carr has more raw physical tools that Tom Brady...but does that mean Carr is a better QB than Brady? No, it means Carr is a prototype....but that doesn't make you a great QB. Carr doesn't really have much over Palmer in the physical department either....He can run faster, but Palmer makes better decisions, throws a better deep ball, works the pocket better, and will challenge a team in the middle of the field and isn't self sacking. :redtowel:

CoachJim
01-07-2006, 01:02 PM
This is just me, but Carr has more raw physical tools that Tom Brady...but does that mean Carr is a better QB than Brady? No, it means Carr is a prototype....but that doesn't make you a great QB. Carr doesn't really have much over Palmer in the physical department either....He can run faster, but Palmer makes better decisions, throws a better deep ball, works the pocket better, and will challenge a team in the middle of the field and isn't self sacking. :redtowel:

Do you think thar DCarr's shortcomings are a product of the talent level around him (Oline)? Could he have been better outta the gate with say, NE's Oline? Would he still suffer from self-sacking, have better pocket presence?

Vinny
01-07-2006, 01:09 PM
Do you think thar DCarr's shortcomings are a product of the talent level around him (Oline)? Could he have been better outta the gate with say, NE's Oline? Would he still suffer from self-sacking, have better pocket presence?Where have you been CoachJim? I've been saying the same thing about Carr for years now. I don't think we "ruined" Carr as much as I think he just doesn't have much instinct or much savvy. Carr may end up like Rich Gannon...small school guy who bloomed late. If we keep him that's my hope.

CoachJim
01-07-2006, 01:20 PM
Where have you been CoachJim? I've been saying the same thing about Carr for years now. I don't think we "ruined" Carr as much as I think he just doesn't have much instinct or much savvy. Carr may end up like Rich Gannon...small school guy who bloomed late. If we keep him that's my hope.

This would be once where I hope you're wrong mainly I suppose cuz I'd hate to know we blew a pick on him in '02 thinking he was the next TAikman & turned out to be DFlutie. (unless he learns to drop-kick):pigfly:

If thats the case, what say we trade DCarr to Miami & let NSaban straighten him out and get RWilliams in return, draft VY & have an almost all UT backfield.

Fiddy
01-07-2006, 01:21 PM
They understand that drafting Young would bring a player with amazing potential, but fans' patience would be tested as Young's game is brought along slowly after a trade of Carr. Drafting Bush would immediately put the Texans in a class with something like Cincinnati, which has Carson Palmer, Rudi Johnson and Chad Johnson.

Instant playoff contender. To add to what Dream was saying, Carr is no Palmer, it would first need to be seen if Bush is a Rudi in his first season and what makes the Bengals offense so good is their 2nd WR TJ Houshmandzadeh. Bush would not make us a playoff contender.

aj.
01-07-2006, 01:23 PM
Eight of the top 15 NFL rushers this season carried the ball 20 or fewer times per game. [/I]

And 9 of the top 10 NFL rushers this season carried the ball at least 20 times per game. Spin it to fit the chosen argument.

nunusguy
01-07-2006, 01:38 PM
And as a pass receiver Bush will get additional touches that the average RB wouldn't. Put him in the slot on some plays, or how about at WR with AJ at
WR on the other side - how 'bout that for your #2 receiver with AJ ?
I dunno....the Dolphins used the #2 overall last year on a Running Back who was a reserve, a substitute in college. No doubt Bush has far more talent
and potential that Ronnie Brown. Hell, Bush is only 20 years old !

TexanSam
01-07-2006, 02:30 PM
I didn't see anything in the whole article worth reading. But that's the Chronicle for you. If the sports writers spent their time getting stories rather than expressing opinions which we don't need it would be a lot better paper.


If everyone just wrote facts, it would be a very boring newspaper. Opinions is what make everything interesting. What if everything we wrote on here is just facts?

sprtsfanatic
01-07-2006, 02:57 PM
This is just me, but Carr has more raw physical tools that Tom Brady...but does that mean Carr is a better QB than Brady? No, it means Carr is a prototype....but that doesn't make you a great QB. Carr doesn't really have much over Palmer in the physical department either....He can run faster, but Palmer makes better decisions, throws a better deep ball, works the pocket better, and will challenge a team in the middle of the field and isn't self sacking. :redtowel:


And this is Carr compared to C. Palmer, and he isnt on the same level...yet there was another thread where Carr was being compared to John Elway...talk about bringing some people back down to earth!!