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bdiddy
01-06-2006, 05:02 PM
I am hearing that Elway is considering taking a consulting role if Kubiak is hired and possibly becoming the OC.

This is pure speculation, probably bull, but a friend from denver said this is what their beat writer is saying on talk radio. Of course if he is like John McClain, this is likely nonsense.

tulexan
01-06-2006, 05:06 PM
Interesting. I would rather have him as like a QB's coach because style wise I see a lot of similarities between Carr and Elway.

daveebarb
01-06-2006, 05:09 PM
I thought Elway on part of Denver NFL team.

ccdude730
01-06-2006, 05:15 PM
well it makes sense in both fashions depending on how you read it. a little clarification is needed bdiddy, thanks

nunusguy
01-06-2006, 06:54 PM
I am hearing that Elway is considering taking a consulting role if Kubiak is hired and possibly becoming the OC.

Wasn't he a QB ?

HJam72
01-06-2006, 06:57 PM
I love it when threads start out with, "This is pure speculation, probably bull, but..." :)

edo783
01-06-2006, 07:39 PM
I live in the Denver area, and I doubt this VERY much. Elway has like 6 or 7 car dealerships that he owns and manages and he owns an AFL football team that he is very active with. Perhaps he would do it for awhile just as a favor for Gary. I think they are close.

bdiddy
01-06-2006, 07:42 PM
I live in the Denver area, and I doubt this VERY much. Elway has like 6 or 7 car dealerships that he owns and manages and he owns an AFL football team that he is very active with. Perhaps he would do it for awhile just as a favor for Gary. I think they are close.

They are close, thats the only reason I would even consider posting this. I think he could possible could be a consultant and work with Carr some during the preseason.

Overalls
01-06-2006, 07:48 PM
Interesting idea. I would be in favor of it.

GP
01-06-2006, 07:48 PM
This isn't too far from happening.

Nolan Ryan took a consulting role with the Astros. WHo wouldn't? You've got the second-best pitching staff in baseball (behind White Sox).

So it's not THAT much of a stretch to see Elway helping out Kubiak with a young QB like Carr who has a good arm and still has good potential.

Carr is on the edge of being Elway-esque. He can tuck the ball and run with it like Elway. He can fire it into receivers' hands like Elway. He just hasn't been able to read defenses and call his own shots like Elway did. And don't anybody peddle some bullcorn about how no NFL QB calls his own plays, and blah-blah-blah. Some do, and the ones that do are often the best in the business.

That would be awesome if this happens. And if it does, then we heard it here first.

Overalls
01-06-2006, 08:01 PM
I may be as big as an elephant, but my memory is not as good as an elephants. I never put Carr in the Elway mold until this post, but it does almost seem to fit.

GP
01-06-2006, 08:13 PM
When I see Leinart chugging down the field...when I see Kerry Collins chugging down the field...when I see most of the NFL's QBs chugging down the field....I always say to myself, "Man, Carr is so much better at scrambling than almost 85% of these other guys."

And when I see Carr;s footballs scream off a receiver's hands or get through the hands and ricochet off the receivers' chest because they couldn't close their hands around it fast enough, I say to myself, "Man, that's just like Favre."

He's just a natural bi-product of a very flawed coaching style. A style that has never allowed him to call plays until this year. And if I am not mistaken, he did pretty darn well when he did.

He's better than the Texans' record shows. Ain't perfect, but he's not as bad as he's being made out to be. That's my two cents.

Texan in Japan
01-06-2006, 09:09 PM
Elway would probably be a good mentor for DC.

tulexan
01-06-2006, 09:14 PM
What I liked from that press conference recap was that Kubiak said that with some hard work he could bring Carr to the next level. I think he really likes him and sees a lot of potential. Bringing Elway in to help him would be a great idea.

sprtsfanatic
01-06-2006, 09:16 PM
This isn't too far from happening.

Nolan Ryan took a consulting role with the Astros. WHo wouldn't? You've got the second-best pitching staff in baseball (behind White Sox).

So it's not THAT much of a stretch to see Elway helping out Kubiak with a young QB like Carr who has a good arm and still has good potential.

Carr is on the edge of being Elway-esque. He can tuck the ball and run with it like Elway. He can fire it into receivers' hands like Elway. He just hasn't been able to read defenses and call his own shots like Elway did. And don't anybody peddle some bullcorn about how no NFL QB calls his own plays, and blah-blah-blah. Some do, and the ones that do are often the best in the business.

That would be awesome if this happens. And if it does, then we heard it here first.

There is no way in HELL that Carr is "Elway-esque". If that isn't a :homer: statement then I dont know what is. There will NEVER be another qb like Elway so get over that thought.

Im not saying Carr is bad, because he's not...yes he can scramble some but he'll never compare to Elway in either arm strength nor his scrambling abilities. Elway will forever be remembered as one of the all time greatest qb's in football history...there is now way Carr even compares or should be compared to him.

tulexan
01-06-2006, 09:22 PM
I don't think calling Carr a poor man's Elway potentially is too far off of a statement.

GP
01-06-2006, 09:41 PM
"...there is now way Carr even compares or should be compared to him." -- sprtsfanatic

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Were you saying this about Elway BEFORE he finally won a title?

Because he won a title at the END of his career, not four years into it like Carr is at right now.

A little "perspective," please, when you throw out comments like this.

Elway would have loved to have had a guy like himself who could come in and help him get through the dry years. Because let me tell you, it was very dry before he broke through with those two titles at the end of his career.

Elway was probably much more scrutinized than Carr ever will be.

sprtsfanatic
01-06-2006, 09:55 PM
Yes, way before he won the two titles. So take a step back and dont compare the Broncos to the Texans when they won back to back suberbowls...compare Carr and Elway...isnt that what your statement was about to begin with???

Carr will never be like Elway whether he ever wins a sb title or not...Elway is Elway and Carr will be Carr. But no way in hell that Carr will ever be the quarter back that Elway was.

Just remember who made the number 7 so famous and popular....do you really think that Carr will make 8 just as famous and popular outside of Houston??? I dont think so.

tulexan
01-06-2006, 10:01 PM
To be honest we don't know how good Carr will be until he has proper coaching and a good supporting cast.

He was picked #1 for a reason. Obviously people thought that he had the potential to be something special. Could he be as good as Elway? Maybe. Could he be a disappointment? Maybe. We won't know until he is given a chance with a real coach and is protected.

Honoring Earl 34
01-06-2006, 10:10 PM
:redtowel: Carr and Elway like peas and carrots . Elway was a top 10 rated player out of high school who's dad was a college coach . Elway can be seen on ESPN Classics often , with episodes as The Drive . Your right their both 6'3 .

Kaiser Toro
01-06-2006, 10:12 PM
Carr is Elway? This thread is dead to me.

chuckm
01-06-2006, 10:17 PM
Carr is Elway? This thread is dead to me.


dude I don't always agree with you but damned if you're not always funny ...

edo783
01-06-2006, 10:18 PM
We won't know until he is given a chance with a real coach and is protected.

And never would if the fickle, flavor of the week, toss'em out, front running, get something new fans ever had their way. I see such pick apart minutia and pimping their favorite guy by tearing down someone else. For some reason it isn't enough to state HOW their guy might be better, it requires dinigration and personall carichter assasination to make them feel better.

sprtsfanatic
01-06-2006, 10:30 PM
:redtowel: Carr and Elway like peas and carrots . Elway was a top 10 rated player out of high school who's dad was a college coach . Elway can be seen on ESPN Classics often , with episodes as The Drive . Your right their both 6'3 .

So if Carr is a poor mans Elway....where are the Carr episodes??? Oh, and I dont mean all the videos of him getting sacked or throwing INT's...

Now dont get me wrong Im no where near a Carr hater...I actually like Carr, but no one should compare Carr with a great like Elway...especially with his accomplishments or lack there of.

tulexan
01-06-2006, 10:32 PM
I said that he has the potential to be a poor man's Elway. I never said that he is at that level right now.

Hervoyel
01-06-2006, 10:37 PM
Yes, way before he won the two titles. So take a step back and dont compare the Broncos to the Texans when they won back to back suberbowls...compare Carr and Elway...isnt that what your statement was about to begin with???

Carr will never be like Elway whether he ever wins a sb title or not...Elway is Elway and Carr will be Carr. But no way in hell that Carr will ever be the quarter back that Elway was.

Just remember who made the number 7 so famous and popular....do you really think that Carr will make 8 just as famous and popular outside of Houston??? I dont think so.

Somebody wound a little tight tonight? Geez man you would think from the tone of your replies that somebody just said they were more popular than Jesus Christ or something.

People draw comparisons so you might as well get over it because fans are going to be comparing their QB to John Elway for as long as the American game of football is played.

If David Carr wins 2-3 Super Bowls you'll probably have to contend with people telling you that in no way was John Elway ever the QB that David Carr was. It happens, get over it. Better yet the place to defend the sacred honor of your true jock-love is probably the Denver Broncos board and not the Houston Texans board.

texasguy346
01-07-2006, 12:17 AM
People draw comparisons so you might as well get over it because fans are going to be comparing their QB to John Elway for as long as the American game of football is played.



Or until a QB better than John Elway comes along, and I don't see that happening anytime soon.