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Tulip
01-02-2006, 12:00 PM
This board thinks, by a 4-to-1 ratio, that keeping Casserly is a mistake.

In our discussions since the rumors broke, we've been missing a major component in this story - Dan Reeves.

Dan Reeves, annointed as the Texans' savior a mere three weeks ago, has made a huge error in his assessment of the franchise, hasn't he?

Theories on what happened?

HoustonFrog
01-02-2006, 12:02 PM
This board thinks, by a 4-to-1 ratio, that keeping Casserly is a mistake.

In our discussions since the rumors broke, we've been missing a major component in this story - Dan Reeves.

Dan Reeves, annointed as the Texans' savior a mere three weeks ago, has made a huge error in his assessment of the franchise, hasn't he?

Theories on what happened?

I never liked the Reeves move and don't trust him as a coach or GM. I just wanted Charlie and Dom gone.

texan279
01-02-2006, 12:05 PM
This board thinks, by a 4-to-1 ratio, that keeping Casserly is a mistake.

In our discussions since the rumors broke, we've been missing a major component in this story - Dan Reeves.

Dan Reeves, annointed as the Texans' savior a mere three weeks ago, has made a huge error in his assessment of the franchise, hasn't he?

Theories on what happened?

Was Reeves brought here to evaluate Casserly as well as the talent on the field?

Tulip
01-02-2006, 12:06 PM
Was Reeves brought here to evaluate Casserly as well as the talent on the field?

What's the difference?

beerlover
01-02-2006, 12:11 PM
my first question would be does Reeves have any interest in becoming the Houston Texans head coach? the owner trusts him and he has agreed with Casserly :twocents:

texan279
01-02-2006, 12:12 PM
my first question would be does Reeves have any interest in becoming the Houston Texans head coach? the owner trusts him and he has agreed with Casserly :twocents:

I heard it again this morning as well as last week on ESPN that Reeves wants to be our next head coach but McNair doesn't want it to happen.

Tulip
01-02-2006, 12:16 PM
Well what's your question? What is this huge error of Reeve's you are talking about? If Reeves was only brought in to evaluate the player's talent you can't blame Reeves for Casserly staying if this is what you are trying to say.

My question is that what's the difference between evaluating the personnel and evaluating Casserly as the selector of that personnel? You can't separate the talent from the GM.

The reports are that Reeves's report to McNair is why McNair is keeping Casserly.

So what did Reeves miss?

disaacks3
01-02-2006, 12:20 PM
My question is that what's the difference between evaluating the personnel and evaluating Casserly as the selector of that personnel? You can't separate the talent from the GM.

The reports are that Reeves's report to McNair is why McNair is keeping Casserly.

So what did Reeves miss? What if Reeves' conclusion was that our talent is just fine, but being mis-utilized by our coaching? If you TRUST Reeves, and he told you that, you do what's happening right now...Fire the coach, keep the GM.

texan279
01-02-2006, 12:23 PM
My question is that what's the difference between evaluating the personnel and evaluating Casserly as the selector of that personnel? You can't separate the talent from the GM.

The reports are that Reeves's report to McNair is why McNair is keeping Casserly.

So what did Reeves miss?

OK, I understand your question now. It might not be what he missed at all, it might be what a lot of us have ben saying all along, that our biggest problem is our coaching. I am not saying we weill be playoff bound next season with a new coach, but I think we are definitely better than a 2-14 team. We know we have talent in AJ, DRob, DD, and others. I definitely think our O line needs a serious overhaul, but other than that, I think if we bring in the right coach and staff to utilize the talent we do have and have a good draft we could easily get to .500 next season.

HoustonFrog
01-02-2006, 12:23 PM
My question is that what's the difference between evaluating the personnel and evaluating Casserly as the selector of that personnel? You can't separate the talent from the GM.

The reports are that Reeves's report to McNair is why McNair is keeping Casserly.

So what did Reeves miss?

Good point. I don't think has done a bang up job anywhere he has gone and in my book he is has worn out his welcome wherever he has been. I think him evaluating Casserly is like Leaf evaluating Carr.

Playmaker
01-02-2006, 12:24 PM
If Reeves was really looking out for himself he would have told Bob the talent stinks here which would have inked Cass outta here and cleared the way for him to become head coach as Cass wouldn't be around to suggest other head coaching possibilites. But I guess that would have been too transparent and Reeves is trying to get the head coach job the legit way.

My question on some players still remain...is Babin really a top flight LB...is Chester Pitts a starter quality OL...Todd Wade?...Mark Bruener?...Tony Hollings?...

dat_boy_yec
01-02-2006, 12:27 PM
What if Reeves' conclusion was that our talent is just fine, but being mis-utilized by our coaching? If you TRUST Reeves, and he told you that, you do what's happening right now...Fire the coach, keep the GM.

That really makes sense. You see players underachieving on the team players you know can be great. Like A.J. who has proven he has the talent, but this year it just hasn't been utilized. I think they're doing the right thing, bring in a new coach and see what we really have. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I see a great deal of improvement from the players we have right now. With whatever talent we add in the offseason I think this franchise will start moving in a much more positive direction.

houstonhurricane
01-02-2006, 12:34 PM
If the goal of this team is to get to a winning record in the next couple of years, then the talent is fine. However, if they are serious about making a playoff run, Casserly should have been sacked for his past decisions that put us where we are at - below average at best.

rockabilly
01-02-2006, 02:10 PM
Reeves has more NFL smarts than any of us. And if he saw that the talent isnt the problem (via casserly), then his opinion is BETTER than any of ours.

Alot of our problems CAN just be coaching. If they are not put in a postion to be good...they cant be.

Dont get me wrong, I do not support Casserly one bit. But...I realize that I am not a football expert (although I think I am)and that Reeves or anyone else in the organization knows more.

HoustonFrog
01-02-2006, 02:13 PM
If the goal of this team is to get to a winning record in the next couple of years, then the talent is fine. However, if they are serious about making a playoff run, Casserly should have been sacked for his past decisions that put us where we are at - below average at best.

I'm not claiming to be an expert but I am with you on this one. When I watch a Colts v Pats game and then watch a Texans game it is like watching top of the line football v. Pop Warner. The talent levels aren't even close and I think most of our players would be backups or on the bench on most top tier teams.

barzilla
01-02-2006, 02:17 PM
One of the other possibilities is that Reeves discovered that the coaching staff spearheaded many of the moves that are now questioned. We didn't sit in the war room on draft day. We didn't sit in the office when these guys talked about free agent signings and trades. As much as I believe Casserly is just as culpable, I think the safe thing is to keep him and let him prove one way or the other who was responsible. Besides, McNair has already said he's going to have him on a tighter leash.

Runner
01-02-2006, 02:17 PM
I'm not claiming to be an expert but I am with you on this one. When I watch a Colts v Pats game and then watch a Texans game it is like watching top of the line football v. Pop Warner. The talent levels aren't even close and I think most of our players would be backups or on the bench on most top tier teams.

This will be a never ending debate. I watch the same game and see that the coaches have put in schemes on both sides of the ball to take advantage of both their players' strengths and the other team's weaknesses. I see such poor coaching for the Texans that I think the team will be much better just given the addition of competent coaching.

Ranger
01-02-2006, 02:33 PM
I think when Reeves came here, his eyes widen a little bit and he saw just how close this football team really is from competing with the big guys. He saw the poor coaching and how the players are not showing their potentional with the schemes that Capers and his staff where giving our team. Reeves thought with a little tutoring, a couple of new schemes, and himself as his head coach he could bring this team to the promised land.

You think about all the potential this team and the players have, and who wouldn't want to be head coach. I think you bring in some coaches who will teach our players how to tackle, block, and cover people and we are going to be one hell of a football team. Its just getting the right coaching and schemes. And Reeves thought he could handle that part.

nunusguy
01-02-2006, 02:54 PM
Reeves has more NFL smarts than any of us. And if he saw that the talent isnt the problem (via casserly), then his opinion is BETTER than any of ours.

Bingo !

Hottoddie
01-02-2006, 02:56 PM
So, now it's Reeves turn to be bashed. Who/What's next, the jock straps?

edo783
01-02-2006, 07:53 PM
So, now it's Reeves turn to be bashed. Who/What's next, the jock straps?

Owwww, a bashed Jock Strap. I don't feel so good, think I'll go lay down awhile. :crying: