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jacquescas
01-02-2006, 11:09 AM
We should hire Mike Sherman as the head coach he was good in green bay before injuries destroyed him this year. I think Martz or Billick would be a good fit in Green Bay

tulexan
01-02-2006, 11:10 AM
What have the Packers done since Holmgren left?

Harrisment
01-02-2006, 11:12 AM
Yes, lets keep recycling these NFL coaches that have mediocre track records. I never have understood the reasoning behind that.

Snapple
01-02-2006, 11:16 AM
Yes, lets keep recycling these NFL coaches that have mediocre track records. I never have understood the reasoning behind that.

I agree. We're trying to become a good team. Why would we want to get someone else's failure? Our standards aren't THAT low yet.

texan279
01-02-2006, 12:36 PM
What have the Packers done since Holmgren left?

Since Sherman has taken over, the Packers have gone 59-43, won 3 straight NFC North titles, four straight playoff appearances, five straight winning seasons. Sherman had 5 wimming seasons out of six total. The guy has one losing season after all of the problems with injuries the Pack had this season and they unload him. Unreal.

Jagsbch
01-02-2006, 12:37 PM
Name a better candidate than Sherman.

Texans86
01-02-2006, 12:39 PM
Name a better candidate than Sherman.

G Kubiak
W Phillips
J Johnson
K Ferentz

Those are four off the top of my head. Guys going up instead of on their way down. Minus Johnson, he's proven.

texan279
01-02-2006, 12:43 PM
G Kubiak
W Phillips
J Johnson
K Ferentz

Those are four off the top of my head. Guys going up instead of on their way down. Minus Johnson, he's proven.

Are you kidding? I want Kubiak as our next head coach more than anyone, but none of these guys have done what Sherman has done as a head coach on the NFL level except for Jimmy Johnson and he is not coming back to caoch in the NFL. Two of those guys don't even have experience as an NFL head coach.

tulexan
01-02-2006, 12:49 PM
Are you kidding? I want Kubiak as our next head coach more than anyone, but none of these guys have done what Sherman has done as a head coach on the NFL level except for Jimmy Johnson and he is not coming back to caoch in the NFL. Two of those guys don't even have experience as an NFL head coach.

True, but for the past few years the NFC North has been relatively weak and Brett Favre was his quarterback.

texan279
01-02-2006, 12:52 PM
True, but for the past few years the NFC North has been relatively weak and Brett Favre was his quarterback.

Favre was the QB this season as well and was 3rd in passing yards in the NFL and they still finished 4-12. They were riddled with injuries all season long sometimes have to start guys off the practice squad and NFLE types and they still finished with 2 more wins than we did.

Hottoddie
01-02-2006, 01:53 PM
Favre was the QB this season as well and was 3rd in passing yards in the NFL and they still finished 4-12. They were riddled with injuries all season long sometimes have to start guys off the practice squad and NFLE types and they still finished with 2 more wins than we did.

Not to mention, they lost their starting guards (Wahle & Rivera) to free agency, their leading rusher the previous 5 years (Ahman Green) to injury, & their starting TE (Bubba Franks), who missed all of training camp & started only 8 games due to various injuries. I'd say that could disrupt just about any Franchises season.

I say we at least give him a look-see.

How 'Bout Them Texans???
01-02-2006, 01:58 PM
i agree, obviously if green bay let him go, he must not be all that great, we dont need someone else's trash, there's a reason why they got rid of him.

texan279
01-02-2006, 02:08 PM
i agree, obviously if green bay let him go, he must not be all that great, we dont need someone else's trash, there's a reason why they got rid of him.

I hope this is sarcasm...

Snapple
01-02-2006, 02:09 PM
The Packers did "okay" because of the talent that they had, not because of Sherman. They got to the playoffs with talent, and then they promptly lose in the playoffs every year because of coaching. He was fired for a reason. Sherman is a soft coach, softer than a baby's butt.

afcman
01-02-2006, 02:09 PM
I think the Packers made a mistake to fire Sherman. He had what.....one bad season in the last five? Not that I want him for the Texans. I don't know who will get the job done here. I know I don't want any of the coaches that just got fired.

I feel different with Capers because I think he lost the respect from the players. That's what I kept seeing on the sidelines.

texan279
01-02-2006, 02:11 PM
The Packers did "okay" because of the talent that they had, not because of Sherman. They got to the playoffs with talent, and then they promptly lose in the playoffs every year because of coaching. He was fired for a reason. Sherman is a soft coach, softer than a baby's butt.

So you're saying the players got them to the playoffs, and the coach lost it in the playoffs? :confused:

Jagsbch
01-02-2006, 02:14 PM
i agree, obviously if green bay let him go, he must not be all that great, we dont need someone else's trash, there's a reason why they got rid of him.

I think there was static between ownership that allowed the fall out.

Snapple
01-02-2006, 02:14 PM
So you're saying the players got them to the playoffs, and the coach lost it in the playoffs? :confused:

I'm saying they were good enough to get to the playoffs, but not good enough to ever go anywhere in the playoffs. Their primary reason they even did as well as they did is because of talent. Coaching was holding them back, and that's why Sherman was on the hot seat before this season even began. The Packers know that injuries hurt them this year, but that's not the only problem the organization had. Heck, they probably wouldn't have even made the playoffs last year if they were in the AFC.

I don't aspire for the Texans to at their best be a first-round exit in the playoffs. I want them to win a Superbowl, and I don't think Sherman is good enough to lead a Superbowl-winning team.

texan279
01-02-2006, 02:20 PM
I'm saying they were good enough to get to the playoffs, but not good enough to ever go anywhere in the playoffs. Their primary reason they even did as well as they did is because of talent. Coaching was holding them back, and that's why Sherman was on the hot seat before this season even began. The Packers know that injuries hurt them this year, but that's not the only problem the organization had. Heck, they probably wouldn't have even made the playoffs last year if they were in the AFC.

I don't aspire for the Texans to at their best be a first-round exit in the playoffs. I want them to win a Superbowl, and I don't think Sherman is good enough to lead a Superbowl-winning team.

If the coaching held them back in the playoffs, I would think the coaching would hold them back from getting to the playoffs...

Big B Texan Fan
01-02-2006, 02:23 PM
Since Sherman has taken over, the Packers have gone 59-43, won 3 straight NFC North titles, four straight playoff appearances, five straight winning seasons. Sherman had 5 wimming seasons out of six total. The guy has one losing season after all of the problems with injuries the Pack had this season and they unload him. Unreal.
This is gonna sound dumb but, getting rid of Sherman probably assures the Pack organization that Favre will retire. Then they can start a new era.

I'm not saying that they are afraid of releasing Favre or firing Sherman, but the poor season made it easy to fire Sherman. And I believe Favre already made a comment about wanting Sherman back. Besides, he (Favre) is not gonna want to start over witha new coach.

texan279
01-02-2006, 02:25 PM
This is gonna sound dumb but, getting rid of Sherman probably assures the Pack organization that Favre will retire. Then they can start a new era.

I'm not saying that they are afraid of releasing Favre or firing Sherman, but the poor season made it easy to fire Sherman. And I believe Favre already made a comment about wanting Sherman back. Besides, he (Favre) is not gonna want to start over witha new coach.

No you're right, they were discussing on ESPN this morning that Sherman staying in Green Bay would largely factor into Favre's decision on retiring, he wanted Sherman back. I just cannot see firing a coach with 5 straight winning seasons after one bad season.

afcman
01-02-2006, 02:37 PM
Yep, I think Favre is gone now.

NWTexan Fan
01-02-2006, 02:44 PM
Since Sherman has taken over, the Packers have gone 59-43, won 3 straight NFC North titles, four straight playoff appearances, five straight winning seasons. Sherman had 5 wimming seasons out of six total. The guy has one losing season after all of the problems with injuries the Pack had this season and they unload him. Unreal.

How much of this success is due to the Holmgren dynasty? (can I call it that?)

texan279
01-02-2006, 02:52 PM
How much of this success is due to the Holmgren dynasty? (can I call it that?)

I can understand Sherman maybe having one or two good seasons after taking over after Homlgren, but to have five winning seasons in a row you have to be doing something right...

Zadadu
01-02-2006, 02:56 PM
You know at one point Bill Belichick left Cleveland with a 36-44 record and was reguarded as a average head football coach. I bet the Patriots are happy to have Clevelands trash.

V Man
01-02-2006, 03:30 PM
This is gonna sound dumb but, getting rid of Sherman probably assures the Pack organization that Favre will retire. Then they can start a new era.

I'm not saying that they are afraid of releasing Favre or firing Sherman, but the poor season made it easy to fire Sherman. And I believe Favre already made a comment about wanting Sherman back. Besides, he (Favre) is not gonna want to start over witha new coach.


and as Texan279 said
No you're right, they were discussing on ESPN this morning that Sherman staying in Green Bay would largely factor into Favre's decision on retiring, he wanted Sherman back. I just cannot see firing a coach with 5 straight winning seasons after one bad season

It is Green Bay's way of saving face. They are ready to start new, but they can't release Farve, so fire his coach and hopefully he will retire.:twocents:

LBC_Justin
01-02-2006, 08:48 PM
What have the Packers done since Holmgren left?
4-12 record for 2005
10-6 record for 2004
10-6 record for 2003
12-4 record for 2002
12-4 record for 2001

4 out of 5 of those seasons are THREE wins better than the best season the Texans have EVER had.

That is not bad.

Yes the packers have had talent. All teams have some talent. But he must have done something right.

Really good teams and really good players lose in the playoffs. Why? Because TWELVE teams go into the playoffs and only ONE can win the superbowl.

I think Mike Sherman is a great coach. I would be glad to have him. With so many teams looking for a new coach this year. He will land some where. Where ever he goes that team is lucky to have him.

Malloy
01-02-2006, 09:27 PM
This is gonna sound dumb but, getting rid of Sherman probably assures the Pack organization that Favre will retire. Then they can start a new era.



Very good point.