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HeartofHouston
12-27-2005, 03:34 PM
IF... we dont pick up a great parr rushing OLB/DE Tweener and stay in the 3-4 this offseason..

who would you start at the OLB positions??

I like what Orr has been doing for the team as of late.. and as i stated.. we're behind alot and he still manages to put up good sack numbers for the team.. imagine what he could do if he gets to pin his ears back and get after the QB when we have the lead..

Peek has great intensity (which alot of the times leads to DUMB penalities), good cover LB tho.. A Very high motor. he just kills us with stupid penalties..

Babin well I dont really have a lot of say about him.. he was not impressive to me in any game that I've seen from him.. He plays a bit slow and sloppy in my personal opinion..

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In my opinion IF we dont pick up a good OLB for a 3-4 i would start..

Orr and Peek (hopefully our next coach will get Peek straight about the whole stupid penality thing..)

Hottoddie
12-27-2005, 03:50 PM
I'm not sure what I think about our OLB's, but I'm sure wondering if the Astro's new left fielder can play ILB for us. Talk about a run stuffer.

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PapaL
12-27-2005, 06:07 PM
You forgot about Wong? He still good...

He's our other ILB along with Greenwood.

YoungTexanFan
12-27-2005, 06:17 PM
He's our other ILB along with Greenwood.

That is our main problem. Greenwood is still playing ILB.

YoungTexanFan
12-27-2005, 06:19 PM
Personally, if we stayed with our group and made NO changes at all...my LB starters would be: Greenwood, Wong, Babin, Orr

Reddevil63
12-27-2005, 09:07 PM
That is our main problem. Greenwood is still playing ILB.
Greenwood isnt big enough to play OLB in the 3-4

texan279
12-27-2005, 11:18 PM
I would start Babin and Orr at OLB...

edo783
12-27-2005, 11:24 PM
I would start Babin and Orr at OLB...

That looked pretty good last week (Jags).

texan279
12-27-2005, 11:38 PM
That looked pretty good last week (Jags).

I didn't concentrate solely on Babin when our defense was on the field, but to me it seemed he was more comfortable coming out of a 3 point stance instead of a standing position...

Corrosion
12-28-2005, 12:50 AM
Babin has been hurt most of the season ..... I think Babin and Orr are the best choice (If Healthy) ..... Peek has all the physical tools to be a Great OLB but just not the snap to go along with it .... Orr ahs made the most of his opportunity

Big B Texan Fan
12-28-2005, 01:14 AM
Hard to say. We're probably gonna go to a 4-3 of some sort if a coaching change occurs. There will more than likely be a total re-construction of our front 4 as well as our LB's. Denver got away with it with their front 4 and that will be the barometer. As far as the LB's go in a 4-3: Orr @olb Wong @mlb and Anderson @olb. Peek is gone after this season, Babin is the rotating back-up for the olb's and we'll either bring a 2nd string type mlb or draft in the 3rd, 4th, or 5th a mlb to give Polk some competition @ the mlb back-up. He'll likely lose that job. And as much as I hate to say it, cuz I love the guys effort, Troy Evans is a possible goner as well.

And that is just this season, next season will be very interesting regarding the LB's. It could also be our 1st round pick in the 07' draft.

Cjeremy635
12-28-2005, 08:30 AM
Babin has been hurt most of the season ..... I think Babin and Orr are the best choice (If Healthy) ..... Peek has all the physical tools to be a Great OLB but just not the snap to go along with it .... Orr ahs made the most of his opportunity

In regards to Peek, I think our coaching staff thought that about another linebacker whom they let go and he signed with San Diego and became a pro bowler. Personally, I think we should keep Peek as a starter. I like his intensity that he shows for the whole game. A new coach can fix the penalty problem....there's just too much natural talent to pass up on.:twocents:

Frills
12-28-2005, 09:20 AM
I think Peek would do well under a coach who disiplines his players when they f-up

Holden135
12-28-2005, 09:26 AM
I think next year the big training camp battle will be between Peek and Babin for the last OLB spot. I think Orr has played himself into a lock at one of the positions. I also think you will still see a bit of a tandem at the last olb spot between peek and babin to keep a fresh body on the field at all times.

rmartin65
12-28-2005, 09:28 AM
In the preseason i'd give them equal playing time and see who does best. Easy as that. I'd also give Pettway a look.

YoungTexanFan
12-28-2005, 09:35 AM
Greenwood isnt big enough to play OLB in the 3-4

Geenwood isnt good enough to play MLB in the 3-4.

He isnt the run stuffer you need.

He makes his reads slower than David Carr.

He still has not adjusted to MLB yet.

The Preacher
12-28-2005, 09:40 AM
Personally it's rough to hear how projects take a few years when Merriman comes out early and dominates. Dude is a freak though so I guess he doesn't count. It's definitely time these guys should become a force. If not, well expect another high pick next year. With that said bring in Parys Haralson in the 3rd to push these guys.

CowboysTexansFan
12-28-2005, 09:10 PM
On top of that, DeMarcus Ware of the Cowboys has also had a stellar rookie season, playing as a LB in the 3-4 defense for the first time. (Merriman played the 3-4 in college at Maryland.)

I mention that because Casserly has previously made the excuse that it takes 3 years for a college DE to learn to play LB in the 3-4.

V Man
12-28-2005, 09:39 PM
On top of that, DeMarcus Ware of the Cowboys has also had a stellar rookie season, playing as a LB in the 3-4 defense for the first time. (Merriman played the 3-4 in college at Maryland.)

I mention that because Casserly has previously made the excuse that it takes 3 years for a college DE to learn to play LB in the 3-4.

In fairness to our LB's, Merriman and Ware play for DC who play the 3-4 the way it is meant to be played (a go-get-after them mentality, not the sit back and read of the Texan's style).

Orr has earned his spot, move Wong back outside and draft a MLB in the second. Peek and Babin come in as reserves.

TexanFan881
12-28-2005, 11:01 PM
In fairness to our LB's, Merriman and Ware play for DC who play the 3-4 the way it is meant to be played (a go-get-after them mentality, not the sit back and read of the Texan's style).

Orr has earned his spot, move Wong back outside and draft a MLB in the second. Peek and Babin come in as reserves.

If we do that then there goes one of our 2004 first round picks :brickwall

Coach C.
12-29-2005, 02:10 PM
You draft Manny Lawson in the second or third and then you have him as a pass rushing specialist. You take Wong and Babin and put thim in the middle. Then Orr, Peek, and Lawson go to war on the QB. Greenwood becomes a high paid backup. Eventhough Peek or Orr could also play ILB. I would rather see babin there because he is likely the best tackler other than Wong against the run.