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cptnbreakdance
12-27-2005, 12:20 PM
Do you think we will go after the two pro bowl guards that are free agents this year? I forget their names but I know they are from the Saints and Seahawks. Having BOTH would be a godsend for this team especially if we were able to draft Bush. If ew draft Mcneil in the 2nd I could see us having 3/5 starters on the line be different from this year. :yahoo:

El Tejano
12-27-2005, 12:24 PM
I think even if we don't draft Mcniel, there will be 3 out of 5 new starters on the line next year.

Holden135
12-28-2005, 05:41 PM
I don't see how any solid free agent would want to come to Houston. Especially on our sorry o-line. Be ready to watch a line built by the draft, if it gets built at all.

MightyTExan
12-28-2005, 06:14 PM
A big name coach or Bush would bring the high-priced FA's.

texasguy346
12-28-2005, 08:04 PM
A big name coach or Bush would bring the high-priced FA's.

Not likely. We're in a similar boat as the Bengals were in not too long ago. We've had the expansion label for our first few years, and that tended to scare off some top tier FAs. After the 4th season we were supposed to look more like a legitimate NFL team that competes for the playoffs, but that obviously hasn't been the case this season. We're the lowest of the bottom dwellers, and our prospects of rising to the middle of the pack next year aren't looking promising. What do you say to a big name FA to entice him to come to Houston? "The weather is nice." "We'll be competitive someday in the future...possibly the near future."

I don't see how a coach would fix that. The Bengals still got little legitimate interest from FAs after picking up Marvin Lewis. It wasn't until they looked to be moving in the right direction that they got any legit interest. I could be wrong, but I think we'll see more Orlando Pace type scenarios when we deal with premiere FAs. We'll throw gobs of money at them, and they'll turn around and use our offers to up their price with other NFL teams. I hope I'm wrong and we do make a big splash in FA, but I don't see it happening at the moment.

eriadoc
12-28-2005, 09:50 PM
Not likely. We're in a similar boat as the Bengals were in not too long ago. We've had the expansion label for our first few years, and that tended to scare off some top tier FAs. After the 4th season we were supposed to look more like a legitimate NFL team that competes for the playoffs, but that obviously hasn't been the case this season. We're the lowest of the bottom dwellers, and our prospects of rising to the middle of the pack next year aren't looking promising. What do you say to a big name FA to entice him to come to Houston? "The weather is nice." "We'll be competitive someday in the future...possibly the near future."

I don't see how a coach would fix that. The Bengals still got little legitimate interest from FAs after picking up Marvin Lewis. It wasn't until they looked to be moving in the right direction that they got any legit interest. I could be wrong, but I think we'll see more Orlando Pace type scenarios when we deal with premiere FAs. We'll throw gobs of money at them, and they'll turn around and use our offers to up their price with other NFL teams. I hope I'm wrong and we do make a big splash in FA, but I don't see it happening at the moment.


Or, we could tell the free agents "Look, we've gone out and gotten our own Marvin Lewis (whoever, you get the point) and we're drafting to fix the problems on this team. We recognize that the biggest problem on this team is the O-line, so we drafted a LT in the first round and we're trying to sign the best OG available" .... might work.

Then again, we probably won't address the needs of this team appropriately.

Texans86
12-29-2005, 12:34 AM
Most of Free Agency is done before the draft, so unless we have the top pick, we can't say we have Bush to entice someone to come. Even then, players know we could trade away the pick. Then they are under contract and no Bush. I don't think Bush will be a major factor in our free agent pick ups.

hot pickle
12-29-2005, 01:55 AM
it will cost alot of money to convince big named players to come to houston, but look at the blue jays, they are very good and they showed some players big bills and they signed them, so if we do sign a good pro-bowl type player we will have to over pay him

eriadoc
12-29-2005, 09:22 AM
Most of Free Agency is done before the draft, so unless we have the top pick, we can't say we have Bush to entice someone to come. Even then, players know we could trade away the pick. Then they are under contract and no Bush. I don't think Bush will be a major factor in our free agent pick ups.

Yeah, but I didn't say anything about drafting Bush - I said draft to address the needs of this team ;)

monty0252006
12-29-2005, 09:58 AM
Most of Free Agency is done before the draft, so unless we have the top pick, we can't say we have Bush to entice someone to come. Even then, players know we could trade away the pick. Then they are under contract and no Bush. I don't think Bush will be a major factor in our free agent pick ups.

we have had the same o-line problem for the last 4 years now, wand and wade, both have been getting top dollar for what, holding a position, bush is looking at the future, his future, davis is aihgt, morency is aight, wells is finding himself, and bush would be a addition of course, but then that will mean that we would have to change the whole offense, back to the run-and-shoot of yester year, shh!! don't let those guys at ESPN hear this:challenge

texan279
12-29-2005, 10:01 AM
we have had the same o-line problem for the last 4 years now, wand and wade, both have been getting top dollar for what, holding a position, bush is looking at the future, his future, davis is aihgt, morency is aight, wells is finding himself, and bush would be a addition of course, but then that will mean that we would have to change the whole offense, back to the run-and-shoot of yester year, shh!! don't let those guys at ESPN hear this:challenge

Wand only counts about $557,000 against the cap this season...

monty0252006
12-29-2005, 10:08 AM
Wand only counts about $557,000 against the cap this season...

can be used in bringing in somebody who really has more heart than that guy, better yet a 4-5 second player, than a 2-3 second player:challenge

texan279
12-29-2005, 10:13 AM
can be used in bringing in somebody who really has more heart than that guy, better yet a 4-5 second player, than a 2-3 second player:challenge

You aren't going to get much in the NFL for around $550,000 a year and not sure what you are talking about someone else having more heart, the guy has hardly played at all this season and did a decent job last season...

Coach C.
12-29-2005, 02:00 PM
LeCharles Bentley will be interested if the Texans pursue him highly. The guy loves the south, but likely wants out of NO. They may franchise him, but that would leave Darren Howard out in the cold. Usually an interior lineman does not take precedence over a DE, but with Will Smith's emergence Howard could be gone. Bentley would be our guy, but Hutchinson would not leave a top ball club to come to a bad one. As far as attracting players to our team, we have a great city and some of the best facilities out there. The Texans are an attractive team to any free agent, as long as we show them we are committed to winning.

edo783
12-29-2005, 02:53 PM
LeCharles Bentley will be interested if the Texans pursue him highly. .

This is a guy we need to GO after. I think he is one who WOULD come to the Teaxans and it would help a lot in the middle where I think most of the line problems are. I would love to get Hutch, but as you said, he won't leave a winning team for us.

Bobo
12-30-2005, 12:47 AM
Do you think we will go after the two pro bowl guards that are free agents this year? I forget their names but I know they are from the Saints and Seahawks. Having BOTH would be a godsend for this team especially if we were able to draft Bush. If ew draft Mcneil in the 2nd I could see us having 3/5 starters on the line be different from this year. :yahoo:

You are dreaming if you think the Texans will get any major FAs this year. The only FAs they have a chance of getting are folks that nobody else wants. Good FAs want to be on a SB contender. That's why the Texans haven't landed any major FAs -- ever.