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edo783
12-25-2005, 12:45 PM
Saw this in the Chronic and thought it indicated what a lot of us had thought all season.


"Over the last several weeks we've looked more like a 3-4 defense is supposed to look," Payne said. "We've been aggressive. We've gotten to the quarterback.

cuppacoffee
12-25-2005, 01:02 PM
Saw this in the Chronic and thought it indicated what a lot of us had thought all season.


"Over the last several weeks we've looked more like a 3-4 defense is supposed to look," Payne said. "We've been aggressive. We've gotten to the quarterback.

Payne is usually good for a quote. I only wish we had a few players that would speak their minds about whats been going on with this team.
Originally we were worried about acquiring "good character" guys, but these type players are not inclined to rock the boat. We just don't need any TO types around, he is a proven poison. Its going to be a very interesting offseason. I expect there will be some quick decisions once the playoffs are over. Kinda sad in a way when your offseason and NFL draft are more exciting than your regular season games. TV shots of Mr McNair and Casserly during the game Sunday reminded me of someone whos dog just got run over. Long long faces on both of them.


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chdaty
12-25-2005, 01:31 PM
I was surprised to see something in the Post Game Quotes beyond the predictable "they executed and we didn't". Dunta actually took credit for the bad coverage that led to one of the touchdowns in the fourth quarter. He even came off the field telling everyone that it was his fault. These days no one takes any individual responsibility and that was a breath of fresh air. I remember Kris Brown saying something like that a few weeks back as well.

It was honestly nice to see something besides the "our guys fought hard today" and "we didn't execute when we had chances and they did." I don't need a press conference to know that, Dom. You were a little closer to the field than I was, but I watched the same game you did.

TexansTrueFan
12-25-2005, 03:37 PM
I was surprised to see something in the Post Game Quotes beyond the predictable "they executed and we didn't". Dunta actually took credit for the bad coverage that led to one of the touchdowns in the fourth quarter. He even came off the field telling everyone that it was his fault. These days no one takes any individual responsibility and that was a breath of fresh air. I remember Kris Brown saying something like that a few weeks back as well.

It was honestly nice to see something besides the "our guys fought hard today" and "we didn't execute when we had chances and they did." I don't need a press conference to know that, Dom. You were a little closer to the field than I was, but I watched the same game you did.


yeah d-rob was way out there i mean i have never seen him cover so poorly that he did yesterday. PB would have looked good compared to that, and what is J. Mathis been doing he hasnt been giving us good field position on a consistent basis in weeks.

El Tejano
12-25-2005, 09:01 PM
Andre Johnsons TD could be credited to Mathis just being out on the field. Amazing how something we all have been saying to do like put Mathis and Johnson on the field together had immediate success.

ledzeppelin229
12-25-2005, 09:29 PM
yeah d-rob was way out there i mean i have never seen him cover so poorly that he did yesterday. PB would have looked good compared to that, and what is J. Mathis been doing he hasnt been giving us good field position on a consistent basis in weeks.

Teams barely kick to Mathis anymore. It's either a short kick to one of the upbacks or they just try to kick it out of the end zone.

axman40
12-25-2005, 10:06 PM
I expect there will be some quick decisions once the playoffs are over. Kinda sad in a way when your offseason and NFL draft are more exciting than your regular season games. TV shots of Mr McNair and Casserly during the game Sunday reminded me of someone whos dog just got run over. Long long faces on both of them.


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I am expecting changes next Tues or Wed . Why wait for the playoffs to be over some changes need to be made sooner rather than later!

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cuppacoffee
12-26-2005, 10:17 AM
I am expecting changes next Tues or Wed . Why wait for the playoffs to be over some changes need to be made sooner rather than later!

:cool:

My only reasoning for this is the NFL rule prohibiting us from contacting coaches who are still coaching in the playoffs. Of course Mr McNair could just clean house on Monday and let us speculate some more for another month.
My expectations are that Casserly keeps his job, then he along with Reeves will begin a coaching search. Casserly has gotten some talent in here, and he has made some blunders. I think Mr McNair will tighten up the reins on Casserly and keep him here. Reeves might stay on through the draft but I doubt he will be here much longer that that.
I was all for bringing in an outside consultant, but that is all I would use Reeves for. He is not the answer to all our questions...:twocents:


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Texan Asylum
12-26-2005, 10:39 AM
My only reasoning for this is the NFL rule prohibiting us from contacting coaches who are still coaching in the playoffs. Of course Mr McNair could just clean house on Monday and let us speculate some more for another month.
My expectations are that Casserly keeps his job, then he along with Reeves will begin a coaching search. Casserly has gotten some talent in here, and he has made some blunders. I think Mr McNair will tighten up the reins on Casserly and keep him here. Reeves might stay on through the draft but I doubt he will be here much longer that that.
I was all for bringing in an outside consultant, but that is all I would use Reeves for. He is not the answer to all our questions...:twocents:


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Perhaps your right about Casserly. It just seemed odd that he as there with McNair during the game. Yea, I know the season ain't over yet but if I was planning on cutting personnel in my business I wouldn't be consorting with em so close to cutting time. IMO

edo783
12-26-2005, 11:00 AM
Yea, I know the season ain't over yet but if I was planning on cutting personnel in my business I wouldn't be consorting with em so close to cutting time. IMO

It's done all the time in business. CC looked real POed sitting there next to Bob. Based on his body language he nows that he is going down. Might just be a role reduction, but I suspect it's the door.

Vinny
12-26-2005, 11:05 AM
Yea, I know the season ain't over yet but if I was planning on cutting personnel in my business I wouldn't be consorting with em so close to cutting time. IMOWhat do you suggest? Telling Casserly to go sit in the corner?

Jack Bauer
12-26-2005, 11:06 AM
Perhaps your right about Casserly. It just seemed odd that he as there with McNair during the game. Yea, I know the season ain't over yet but if I was planning on cutting personnel in my business I wouldn't be consorting with em so close to cutting time. IMO

They have been sitting together for the last 4 years during games. I don't think McNair is going to make a change that makes it obvious that Casserly is NOT coming back. I think that both Capers and Casserly are gone. If anyone was to be saved it would be Capers. McNair really likes Capers and would keep him if he did not see the PR nightmare coming from such a decision.

Texan Asylum
12-26-2005, 11:29 AM
I quess we're ALL just speculating at this point, and I suppose there will be some here that'll say "That's the way I seen it happening all along!" But all we can do at this point is make uneducated quesses. None of them are right or wrong because all of them are just that, quesses and speculation.

Bobo
12-27-2005, 02:20 AM
Teams barely kick to Mathis anymore. It's either a short kick to one of the upbacks or they just try to kick it out of the end zone.

Um, in most situations, kickers ALWAYS try to boot it out of the EZ.

Bobo
12-27-2005, 02:24 AM
I am expecting changes next Tues or Wed . Why wait for the playoffs to be over some changes need to be made sooner rather than later!

:cool:

They may change the guys who clean the restrooms, but I doubt they would make major changes that soon. They would have nothing to gain by it and everything to gain by waiting for the playoffs to be over, since they would then have the opportunity to talk to members of the coaching staffs from the teams that were in the post-season.

Doug
12-27-2005, 11:38 AM
What do you suggest? Telling Casserly to go sit in the corner?
That's too funny. LOL

tulexan
12-27-2005, 12:29 PM
Perhaps your right about Casserly. It just seemed odd that he as there with McNair during the game. Yea, I know the season ain't over yet but if I was planning on cutting personnel in my business I wouldn't be consorting with em so close to cutting time. IMO


Where else would he sit? He isn't a coach or a coordinator so he isn't going to be on the sidelines or in the coaches box on the headset.

El Tejano
12-27-2005, 12:34 PM
He could sit outside reliant. There's plenty of TVs out there.

Texan Asylum
12-27-2005, 12:57 PM
Sorry, didn't know how it worked.