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ArlingtonTexan
12-21-2005, 11:22 PM
GMAC bowl- UTEP-Toledo- this was a brutal watch. UTEP really did not bring much energy to the ball game.

UTEP
Jordan Palmer QB 6'5" 230-physically a twin to Carson. Not a talent twin. Not comfortable in the pocket, streaky with accuracy and decision making w/o Carsonís arm to make up for it. Injured ankle during the game. Draftable QB assuming continued improvement. Right now mid to late rounder. 2007 draft guy.
Tyler Ebell RB 5'9" 185-injured UCLA transfer.probably a FA looked at as a KR type
Chris Francies WR 6'1" 200(4.4?)-played saw nothing from him.
Jayson Boyd WR 6'4" 210 (4.39?)injured, good size/speed ratio, probably FA
Thomas Howard LB 6'3 240 (4.4)-maybe the most physically gifted LB in the draft. Nearly invisible in this game, not really even in position to make plays. Talk has been of him being a first day, maybe even a first rounder, but I did not see it tonight.

Toledo
Bruce Gradkowski 6'2 210, extremely accurate passer, that has nice mobility and good play fake ability. Did not look 6'2 to me and threw two interceptions on poor decisions, but I think he is the type who normally go in the middle rounds and turn into good career back-ups that can start in the right situations.
Trinity Dawson RB 5'10 195. Stocky inside runner did not look elusive, but productive may get a FA look
Keon Jackson SS 5'11 206- all conference, made a couple of good plays on the ball coming close to 2 Ints. Hard to follow because of the number of passes that UTEP attempted.
Anthony Jordan LB 6'3 230- around the ball all game versus the run and pass...played better than the more highly regarded Howard for the Miners, seemed pretty quick, should be late in the draft/FA type, but I was somewhat impressed.
David Thomas 6'2 230- returned an interception for TD, otherwise similar game to teammate A. Jordan.

YoungTexanFan
12-21-2005, 11:27 PM
good read, thanks for the info on some small school guys.

if we take a qb this year, i want the qb from toledo in like the 6th round if he is there.

aj.
12-21-2005, 11:43 PM
GMAC bowl- UTEP-Toledo- this was a brutal watch. .

So are you Beaumont Texan on hpf?

ArlingtonTexan
12-22-2005, 12:40 AM
So are you Beaumont Texan on hpf?

yeah, thought that was the worst kept secret in America. I moved up here two years ago, but never changed my name on that board.

cap1
12-22-2005, 06:37 AM
GMAC bowl- UTEP-Toledo- this was a brutal watch. UTEP really did not bring much energy to the ball game.

UTEP
Jordan Palmer QB 6'5" 230-physically a twin to Carson. Not a talent twin. Not comfortable in the pocket, streaky with accuracy and decision making w/o Carsonís arm to make up for it. Injured ankle during the game. Draftable QB assuming continued improvement. Right now mid to late rounder. 2007 draft guy.
Tyler Ebell RB 5'9" 185-injured UCLA transfer.probably a FA looked at as a KR type
Chris Francies WR 6'1" 200(4.4?)-played saw nothing from him.
Jayson Boyd WR 6'4" 210 (4.39?)injured, good size/speed ratio, probably FA
Thomas Howard LB 6'3 240 (4.4)-maybe the most physically gifted LB in the draft. Nearly invisible in this game, not really even in position to make plays. Talk has been of him being a first day, maybe even a first rounder, but I did not see it tonight.

Toledo
Bruce Gradkowski 6'2 210, extremely accurate passer, that has nice mobility and good play fake ability. Did not look 6'2 to me and threw two interceptions on poor decisions, but I think he is the type who normally go in the middle rounds and turn into good career back-ups that can start in the right situations.
Trinity Dawson RB 5'10 195. Stocky inside runner did not look elusive, but productive may get a FA look
Keon Jackson SS 5'11 206- all conference, made a couple of good plays on the ball coming close to 2 Ints. Hard to follow because of the number of passes that UTEP attempted.
Anthony Jordan LB 6'3 230- around the ball all game versus the run and pass...played better than the more highly regarded Howard for the Miners, seemed pretty quick, should be late in the draft/FA type, but I was somewhat impressed.
David Thomas 6'2 230- returned an interception for TD, otherwise similar game to teammate A. Jordan.


Bruce Gradkowski look nice. I wouldn't mind drafting him for the Texans if he is still there in the 6th or 7th round. Those linebackers looked awesome for Toledo. I know that it was UTEP they played but they were really good. The MAC has come a long way in recent years.

Coach C.
12-22-2005, 07:52 AM
thomas Howard was overshadowed, but the guy looked extremely athletic, and solid against the run. I think he hurt his chances of becoming a first round LB as some have him. I think he could be a steal like Will Witherspoon in the third though.

ArlingtonTexan
12-22-2005, 08:37 AM
Gradkowski-Depending on what his arm strength looks during the off-season, I don't see him getting pass the 5th, but QBs not @ the top of the draft tend to fall more than what they grade out.

Howard- enough of an athlete that he will get drafted, but did not like his skills as a LB. Held point of attack ok, but did not get off the blocks and was tentative as a tackler the few times when in position that I saw him. I would not be interested in him before 3rd and more likely the 4th or later.

the toledo LBs are not really listed anywhere as high end prospects, but I could easily see them drafted if they have played anywhere close to last night through the season. BTW, Toledo ran a ton 3-4 look with aggressive blitzing from all angles. Jordan and Thomas are keep a watch for during the off season.

Coach C.
12-22-2005, 11:07 AM
AT I think the guys from Toledo will be low second day picks or undrafted FAs that hit a team. They are athletic and decently quick. I could see Jordan and Thomas hitting a Texans practice squad next year.

Mathis13
12-22-2005, 11:15 AM
I think Jordan could provide some competition at LB for us. I agree he's around the ball alot

swtbound07
12-22-2005, 01:06 PM
what about the other WR from UTEP.....i was impressed greatly by him

ArlingtonTexan
12-22-2005, 04:10 PM
what about the other WR from UTEP.....i was impressed greatly by him

Are you talking about Johnnie Lee Higgins, the guy with around 4.2 speed? He is a junior and caught a couple of passses, but did not seem special (at least in this game).

YoungTexanFan
12-22-2005, 06:11 PM
Are you talking about Johnnie Lee Higgins, the guy with around 4.2 speed? He is a junior and caught a couple of passses, but did not seem special (at least in this game).

4.2 speed got my attention. But alas we do not need him because we refuse to use the one we have now.