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bdiddy
12-19-2005, 06:09 PM
Please let me know your thoughts.

It now appears unlikely that the Texans will get the first pick in the draft, unless they some how find a way to lose to the hapless 49ers. Here is my plan assuming we end up with the #2 pick.

Draft

We should trade the #2 pick to either the Jets, Saints, or Dolphins for their first and second round picks. Each of these teams is in need of a quarterback and is likely to be interested in drafting Matt Leinart.

With our new (lower)first round pick we should select the best offensive tackle available, hopefully Ferguson (there are several offensive tackles available in this draft, making this situation less risky than most years). Then with the now 2 second round picks we should pick (1) a pass-rushing DE/OLB (depending on whether or not we switch to the 4-3 scheme), and (2) a difference making WR or CB.

The third round pick should be used on a quality TE, who tend to slip and get drafted below their value. Perhaps Anthony Fasano of Notre Dame might be available. I know this would be a novel suggestion (to current management), but we need a TE that can both block and catch passes.

Rounds four-seven should be used to add depth with particular attention paid towards the offensive line, in particular guard, noting that Zach Weigart is aging.

Free Agency

Sign LeCharles Bently, a center with the New Orleans Saints. I know no one has heard of him but this is mainly because he is an offensive lineman and plays for the Saints. He was voted Offensive Rookie of the Year by Sports Illustrated in 2002, went to the pro bowl in 2003 at guard, and was a pro bowl alternate a center (his position in college at Ohio State) last year. Bently will be cheaper than some other suggested free agent lineman in that he is a center, the lowest paid position on the o-line and because he is coming from New Orleans/San Antonio/Baton Rouge no player wants to deal with this situation. This signing would permit the Texans to move McKinney back to his better position of LG. The newly drafted OT and Chester Pitts should compete (a new concept to the Texans) for the starting left tackle job with the loser moving to right tackle. I know this makes Todd Wade an extremely highly paid backup, but so be it until is makes economic sense to release him.

If the team switches to a 4-3 defense they definitely need a strong middle linebacker. Even if there is no switch a serviceable veteran in this role (ala Jamie Sharper-type) would be useful.

Possibly a quality number 2 wide receiver depending on expense and the draft outcome. This may require letting go of Jabar Gaffney and going with his cheaper clone Derrick Armstrong.

Front Office and Coaching

Dan Reeves shall remain as the General Manager with Charlie Casserly being reassigned to have control solely over football operations and not personnel (assuming Casserly is willing to accept this).

Dom Capers has to go, I do not necessarily like it but it is time for a change. I think we should bring in Wade Phillips has Head Coach. This would allow us to maintain a simplified 3-4 scheme for at least a year, so that we can focus the predominate part of the draft on the offensive side of the ball. Phillips has a winning record as a coach, something that cannot be said of the current coaching staff. His worst season as a coach is 8-8, which would be the Texans best season. He has a history of turning average to below average defenses in to first-tier units.

If Phillips is brought in as Head Coach it is absolutely imperative that the Texans hirer an established Offensive Coordinator to bring along a new and improved offense. I suggest Al Saunders from Kansas City. All signs are pointing to Dick Vermeil retiring at the end of the season and management does not consider Saunders a viable Head Coaching candidate, favoring Mike Lewis (NY Giants) or Ron Rivera (Bears). Saunders would bring an open attach that still respects the running game, which is exactly what the Texans need.

With the suggested changes I foresee dramatic improvements with a record ranging somewhere between 7-9 and 9-7.

Sarg01
12-19-2005, 06:53 PM
Please let me know your thoughts.

It now appears unlikely that the Texans will get the first pick in the draft, unless they some how find a way to lose to the hapless 49ers. Here is my plan assuming we end up with the #2 pick.

Draft

We should trade the #2 pick to either the Jets, Saints, or Dolphins for their first and second round picks. Each of these teams is in need of a quarterback and is likely to be interested in drafting Matt Leinart.

With our new (lower)first round pick we should select the best offensive tackle available, hopefully Ferguson (there are several offensive tackles available in this draft, making this situation less risky than most years). Then with the now 2 second round picks we should pick (1) a pass-rushing DE/OLB (depending on whether or not we switch to the 4-3 scheme), and (2) a difference making WR or CB.



It's unlikely we end up with the #2 if we beat the 49ers. For such a scenario to happen, the Jets (who play New England and Buffalo) probably have to win, since they're likely to have a SOS tiebreak on us if we both finish 3-13. The Saints also have a tiebreak on us, but it's much closer to being even (it would be even if Green Bay wins tonight).

I'm thinking the reverse in the draft, grabbing a Hawk or Poz (either would romp in 3-4 or 4-3) in the Top 10 and then a Jon Scott (with 6 other first round tackles, this is more likely than it sounds) or Max Jean-Giles kind of player to buff up the pass-blocking in the early 2nd. I'd be looking DLine, CB, TE or WR for the second #2.

bdiddy
12-19-2005, 07:02 PM
As far as the second pick you might be right. However, I think the Jets will be Buffalo (who is going down the tubes on the way to firing of HC) and that the Packers will win tonight. The Saints will have a stronger schedule than us if the Colts lose to Seattle.

As far as your picks, I could go the same way you are thinking. I just would like to get a quality LEFT tackle if possible. The OT available in the late first/early second round will most likely be an average left tackle but a quality right tackle (e.g., John Scott). Additionally, I am not sold on Hawk. I think he is a great player but you have to be absolutely special to go in the top 10 as a linebacker. Linebackers, o-line, and tight ends always fall compared to their talent level. However, I think you have some good thoughts and would not mind if the Texans went this route

rmartin65
12-19-2005, 07:03 PM
I like the idea of a hard-nosed MLB.

real
12-19-2005, 07:05 PM
If we don't end up with the number one pick....like 3-5....A defensive player like A.J Hawk would be hard to pass on

LORK 88
12-19-2005, 07:11 PM
I like it alot. With the 2 second rounders, Im thinking Manny Lawson and Demarrio Minter. Both are great players, and Manny Lawson is just a beast. I like a TE in the 3rd, especially Fasano, he's underrated. The FA looks great too, i really hope we could get LeCharles. Looks real good, hope it happens!!

Sarg01
12-19-2005, 07:43 PM
I like it alot. With the 2 second rounders, Im thinking Manny Lawson and Demarrio Minter.

My worry with Lawson would be how much his success was based on having Mario on the other side, though that he's had success is unquestionable.

texan279
12-19-2005, 07:48 PM
I think after this past weekend and the schedule remaing we will end up with the 3-5 pick, perfect to draft D'Brick or trade down and draft Winston or another tackle. As far as picking a pass rushing OLB/DE I don't agree. I would put Babin and Orr at OLB and as far as DE we still have Smith and Walker who are in pretty big contracts.

Corrosion
12-19-2005, 07:50 PM
I Like the Trade Down idea .... Pending that Bush isnt on the board .... But I would probably not take DBrick ... I'd take Hawk or one of the top TE's (If TE then I'd look to trade down a second time, not gonna take a TE that high) then with the two second round picks trade back into the first and pick up Max Gean Jiles around pick 18-22 ..... More bang fer yer buck :twocents:

Coach C.
12-19-2005, 07:55 PM
I would never be thinking AJ Hawk in the top 5 just because he is not the beast LB that I would spend top 5 money on. Sorry to everyone who feels that he is, he is a good player that will translate well to the NFL, but he is not an Arrington type beast worthy of a top 5 pick. I would look Eric Winston, Michael Huff, Davin Joseph(remember this kid he is a monster). I want some players that play with a mean streak. The free agency part I like, been preaching LeCharles Bentley for a while. This allows us to get rid of McKinney's inflated contract. We would be looking at Pitts, Joseph, Bentley, Weigert, Winston. That is a nice and mean line. I would pick up a TE in FA because truthfully we dont need to grab one in the draft this year unless it is in the second day. Teyo Johnson and Chris Baker will be available. As far as the coach goes it can go either way. I like Gary Kubiak personally, but I have no problem with Wade Phillips. I would rather see them go in an offensive direction. Al Saunders will likely not be leaving K.C. unless Herm Edwards loses his job.

Kaiser Toro
12-19-2005, 07:57 PM
I am on board with Coach except for Phillips. That is unless Phillips brought some one like a Martz for OC.

real
12-19-2005, 07:57 PM
You wouldn't take A.J Hawk, but you'd take winston in the top 5?...Where's the logic?

Coach C.
12-19-2005, 08:01 PM
Winston was an implied trade down, I thought that you would recognize that, my bad. I want to trade down and take Winston, who will likely grade out as one of if not the top OT in the draft. The kid has talent and would have went ahead of Ferguson had he not gotten hurt. Kaiser what about phillips dont you agree with.

real
12-19-2005, 08:09 PM
Yeah your bad...

Coach C.
12-19-2005, 08:11 PM
Yes that does not change the fact that AJ does not get picked in the top 5. I mean what is your point xtruroualtyx.

Kaiser Toro
12-19-2005, 08:12 PM
Winston was an implied trade down, I thought that you would recognize that, my bad. I want to trade down and take Winston, who will likely grade out as one of if not the top OT in the draft. The kid has talent and would have went ahead of Ferguson had he not gotten hurt. Kaiser what about phillips dont you agree with.

As I have said elsewhere we are top heavy invested in the offensive unit and have had a defensive HC regime since our inception. I would like to see a Offensive minded HC (Kubiak). If a Phillips type HC came in I think he must hire an OC and give them full control of the offense, but that would be eerily close to the initial team of Capers/Palmer.

I am all for becoming a defensive minded team, but that will come at a cost that some fans on this board may not want to see, such as getting rid of Carr.

real
12-19-2005, 08:14 PM
Oh I'm not arguing with you...I thought you were saying take winston instead of AJ if we had a top five...The rest of your comments about winston and yada yada yada...I have no discrpency...carry on...Just a misunderstanding on one portion...

run-david-run
12-19-2005, 08:22 PM
If we trade down the #2 pick, we would get more then just a 1st and a 2nd round. We would probably also get a 3rd round, giving us a 1st, 2 2nds and 3 rds (NO last year). Go with D'Brick first, Max-Jean Giles or Davin Joseph (whichever is available) at guard, Michael Huff as a F/CB with the next pick. Then with the first 3rd rounder pick up DeMario Minter, CB from Georgia. Then a MLB and DE, depending on our D next year (3-4 or 4-3). Ultimatly, by trading down we could end up with 5 picks inside the first 3 rounds, all of them in the top 7 of their round. Very good chance to rebuild our team within one year

real
12-19-2005, 08:23 PM
I think Huff will be gone in the first...

Scooter
12-19-2005, 08:38 PM
excellent post & dead on across the board IMO. the only thing i'd change, is i'd like to see kubiak given a chance at HC.

LORK 88
12-19-2005, 10:01 PM
My worry with Lawson would be how much his success was based on having Mario on the other side, though that he's had success is unquestionable.

He actually had more sacks than Mario in 2004 and has 7 this year. Regardless of Mario, the fact that he's 6'5" 245 and runs a 4.4 is scary. I think he'd make a great OLB for Houston, 3-4 or 4-3.

YoungTexanFan
12-19-2005, 10:31 PM
He actually had more sacks than Mario in 2004 and has 7 this year. Regardless of Mario, the fact that he's 6'5" 245 and runs a 4.4 is scary. I think he'd make a great OLB for Houston, 3-4 or 4-3.

yes, he is a physical freak. he is a better version of shawne merimen IMO. Much more agressive, with more sucess at getting to the QB. His stock will rise like none other unfortunatly after he works out.

YoungTexanFan
12-19-2005, 10:33 PM
I like the idea of a hard-nosed MLB.


Then you are thinking of Ahmad Brooks, the closest thing to Lavar Arington in the past few drafts. Vilmas was pretty close too, but Brooks is that much better. He will slide because he had an off season, and is coming back from some injuries.

run-david-run
12-19-2005, 10:59 PM
Then you are thinking of Ahmad Brooks, the closest thing to Lavar Arington in the past few drafts. Vilmas was pretty close too, but Brooks is that much better. He will slide because he had an off season, and is coming back from some injuries.
Ummm, you must be the only person who would rather have Arrington over Vilma. Arington is a freelance player, that is not what you want on defense, yes he is a "playmaker", but getting a sack or fumble one out of 100 plays is not worth the other 99 plays. Kind of reminds me of another "playmaker"...

sorry, couldnt help myself...

ledzeppelin229
12-19-2005, 11:00 PM
If we switched to a 4-3 I would not be against giving Babin a shot at MLB. He's a pretty good athlete and tracking down the ballcarrier seems to be his strength. He'd still be able to do a little passrushing/coverage if it was needed, even if he was never a true "beast" LB.

run-david-run
12-19-2005, 11:01 PM
I think Huff will be gone in the first...
I have seen Huff listed anywhere from top 20 to early 3rd round. It depends on what he runs at the combine and what he comes out as (saftey, corner, or both). I would love to get him in the second... it would be a steal, lets hope he falls that far:drool:

YoungTexanFan
12-19-2005, 11:06 PM
Ummm, you must be the only person who would rather have Arrington over Vilma. Arington is a freelance player, that is not what you want on defense, yes he is a "playmaker", but getting a sack or fumble one out of 100 plays is not worth the other 99 plays. Kind of reminds me of another "playmaker"...

sorry, couldnt help myself...

I realize the type of player arington is, but he is still very good in the run. he is the kind of lb defenses have to plan around...ala lewis from balt.

Brooks is better at the run than arington, and less of a roaming guy, but is very good at going sideline to sideline. He will be the best LB from this draft after one season, discounting injuries.

run-david-run
12-19-2005, 11:06 PM
If we switched to a 4-3 I would not be against giving Babin a shot at MLB. He's a pretty good athlete and tracking down the ballcarrier seems to be his strength. He'd still be able to do a little passrushing/coverage if it was needed, even if he was never a true "beast" LB.
What about drafting someone like Aaron Harris from UT in the later rounds as a MLB? Babin will not play MLB, he has never done it in his career, it is way more likley he will try to add some weight and play DE or become an OLB in a 4-3. Also, I think Peek could become a situational pass rusher like Mathis for the Colts, maybe an OLB...
If we switch to a 4-3, the personel decisons will be very interesting and if we get some DE's we could have a very good rotation at DT.

Imagine having Smith and Payne at DT on first down with Walker(maybe) at strong side DE and either Babin or a new DE. Then having the ability to bring in TJ to spell either Smith or Payne, playing about 40% of the plays. Then on passing situations we could go with a combination of Babin, Peek, Walker and TJ/Robaire, depending who the better pass rusher is...:drool:

run-david-run
12-19-2005, 11:09 PM
I realize the type of player arington is, but he is still very good in the run. he is the kind of lb defenses have to plan around...ala lewis from balt.

Brooks is better at the run than arington, and less of a roaming guy, but is very good at going sideline to sideline. He will be the best LB from this draft after one season, discounting injuries.
There is no way Arington has the impact of someone like Lewis (in his prime). He is very undciciplined and often ignores his responsabilities. Basically, he is better version of Peek in that he can follow up a sack or fumble with a 15 yard penalty and then miss an assignment in coverage. He is as much a threat as a liability...

I havnt seen enough of Brooks to give an opinion, but Hawk really does look like the real deal, but if DJ slipt to 13, where will a linebacker go in this draft?

rdbrem
12-19-2005, 11:11 PM
We need to do whatever it takes to get an excellent left tackle. I like the idea of trading down to get one, if we can still get the best one out there. On the other hand, if we could get an excellent experienced tackle in exchange for a high draft pick, I'd like that even better. It would be great to find a team who really needs a QB or running back, more than they need a starting left tackle. Any suggestions?

We skimped on O-line last year, and it's us.

run-david-run
12-19-2005, 11:12 PM
On a side note, the Packers just got wipped by the Ravens... its 41-3 in the 4th quarter and Rogers is in the game, already thrown a pick...

Why do teams insist on drafting QB's when its obvious they are not worthy of their draft status? (this is mostly aimed at San Fran)

run-david-run
12-19-2005, 11:13 PM
We need to do whatever it takes to get an excellent left tackle. I like the idea of trading down to get one, if we can still get the best one out there. On the other hand, if we could get an excellent experienced tackle in exchange for a high draft pick, I'd like that even better. It would be great to find a team who really needs a QB or running back, more than they need a starting left tackle. Any suggestions?

We skimped on O-line last year, and it's us.
Teams dont give up their tackles.. when is the last trade you heard of when an O-lineman was involved? It dosnt happen.. unless you get lucky, you have to go after a tackle in the draft, ussually in the first round...

YoungTexanFan
12-19-2005, 11:15 PM
On a side note, the Packers just got wipped by the Ravens... its 41-3 in the 4th quarter and Rogers is in the game, already thrown a pick...

Why do teams insist on drafting QB's when its obvious they are not worthy of their draft status? (this is mostly aimed at San Fran)

because the entire city falls in love with a certian player or need. They do not look ahead to next years draft and other options for the draft they are in.

...hey that sounds like our MB and reggie bush...

bdiddy
12-20-2005, 12:04 AM
I agree with a lot being said on the board. Let me explain a little further my reasoning for favoring Wade Phillips as HC at this time.

1. I do not think it would be a good idea to shift from a 3-4 to a 4-3 immediately. We have the personnel to run a 3-4 right now and are only one player away (improved pass rusher) from being an average defense and two players (pass rusher + #2 corner) to be in upper half of the league. Much of our current problems on defense are (a) coaching and (b) youth. Fangio and Capers run a very complicated 3-4 scheme that is best suited for veteran players. Look at our starting lineup against Arizona - 8 of 11 have either less than 3 years in the league, rookies, first time starters, or first time playing in the 3-4. If we bring in Phillips we can improve this area immediately and be a top 10-15 defense next year.

2. Corollary to not shifting defensive schemes. At this point in the development of our franchise I think the Texans need to concentrate on a strong offensive draft after focusing on defense the last two years. In my scenario above it called for using a 2nd and possibly an additional 2nd or 3rd round pick on "impact" defensive positions. However, other than this we should concentrate on the offensive side of the ball. If we switch schemes we have too many wholes to fill in one year. We have no true 4-3 linebackers or defensive ends. I think Babin could gain 10-15 lbs. and be a defensive end in the scheme and Peek could probably play OLB. Morolon Greendwood and Kahli could also adjust, but still we have marginal talent for this scheme. The switch would require drafting two defensive ends as well as at least one strong mike linebacker. That is three picks minimum without even addressing the secondary or possible free agents.

3. The two biggest needs for this team are (a) to upgrade the o-line, and (b) to find playmakers. I think the most imperative course of action is to sure up the line, look for a possible #2 WR, and a quality TE. Adding one or two defensive players this year is all that is needed. If after seeing the new 3-4 the Texans realizes more changes are needed, they can use the 2007 draft to focus on defensive needs and changing schemes. I think trying to address all of our needs is foolish in one draft and free agency period. We have too many wholes. However, if we sure up the offensive talent we can be a vastly improved team.

4. I think Gary Kubiak would be a great candidate and I would not be opposed to the higher. However, I think if this happens we need to bring somone in with strong familiarity with the 3-4 and 4-3. I think we have to run the 3-4 for another year and make an assesment after next season. The focus of this team needs to be improving the offense by bringing in new personnel. The defense may keep the same personnel with a few additions and a little scheme tweaking. If there is a quality DC that could accompany Kubiak I would be game, I just do not see such a person available at this time. If you can think of one let me know.

As a side note, Kubiak is a rather laid back personality. I would prefer a coach with a little fire, to have more of a contrast to the current regime. I also find defensive coaches tend to manage the operation of being a head coach better than offensive coaches (with Shanahan and Holmgren being two notable exceptions). All this said I would be happy to get Kubiak or Phillips assuming each is accompanied by the requisite coordinator.