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David's Busted Carr
12-18-2005, 04:43 PM
What do we do with it? I think drafting #2 this year is the absolute WORST draft position you could have. You won't be able to trade the pick for enough value (as you would with the Reggie Bush auction at #1), you don't need Leinert, and I don't think an OL is worth a 2nd overall pick. Wow, the Texans just keep making it harder and harder on themselves....

royce1054
12-18-2005, 04:51 PM
Well first of all Bush will be gone to SF at #1.

Then teams who might be looking at Leinhart are Det, Balt, and NYJ

Balt will prob pick around 9-12
Det will pick around 6-10
Jets top 4

We can still get a good trade value for this.

tulexan
12-18-2005, 04:54 PM
who says that we have the #2 pick? right now we are still leading in strength of schedule.

royce1054
12-18-2005, 04:56 PM
who says that we have the #2 pick? right now we are still leading in strength of schedule.


You think we will lose to SF dont make me laugh b4 Reeves i would say yes... but players are playing for their jobs now

tulexan
12-18-2005, 04:58 PM
yeah and we have a weaker strength of schedule

royce1054
12-18-2005, 04:59 PM
yeah and we have a weaker strength of schedule

http://teamrankings.com/nfl/27powerratings.php3
1. Philadelphia (5-8) 0.141
2. San Francisco (2-11) 0.140
3. Houston (1-12) 0.130
4. Baltimore (4-9) 0.123
5. Oakland (4-9) 0.097

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers

TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING
If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs:

tulexan
12-18-2005, 05:00 PM
what are those numbers?

royce1054
12-18-2005, 05:03 PM
what are those numbers?

Strength of schedule... so if we tie SF automatically gets the 1st pick...

tulexan
12-18-2005, 05:04 PM
where did you get those numbers?

the nfl has our strength of schedule at .567 and the niners at .585

royce1054
12-18-2005, 05:07 PM
where did you get those numbers?

the nfl has our strength of schedule at .567 and the niners at .585


I posted the link back up there above the #'s... let me see the NFL link

tulexan
12-18-2005, 05:10 PM
That guy has his own rankings of teams. The NFL has us at .567 and the Niners at .585

http://www.nfl.com/standings/conference

royce1054
12-18-2005, 05:15 PM
Well that would mean going by
what the NFL said
If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied,

SF wont beat us. They are worse then we are. Plus anyways you said SF has .585 and we have a .567 they would pick 1st because the SoS is tougher than our is.

TheRealJoker
12-18-2005, 05:20 PM
No, weaker sos gets the 1st pick

Huge
12-18-2005, 05:23 PM
SOS is the winning percentage of the oppoenents you've played. In other words,the higher the number, the stronger your schedule.

So if SF's is at .585 and Houston is at .567, then Houston has played the weaker schedule and would get priority over SF in the draft...as it stands right now.

royce1054
12-18-2005, 05:24 PM
No, weaker sos gets the 1st pick


does it matter since we will beat SF anyways... This topic shouldnt even matter both team will go into the last game 2-13. The winner gets 2nd pick and loser 1st pick... bottom line

tulexan
12-18-2005, 05:28 PM
I wouldn't get your hopes up because of this game. If Kurt Warner played the entire game we would have been blown out by the Cardinals.

Napa Auto Parts
12-18-2005, 05:28 PM
well considering our Our Poor qb play even againts terrible defenses i dont see how we wont look at Matt Leinert ive heard some scout say he could be every good as P. Manning but who knows we have david carr we dont need a qb since david is so good.

Huge
12-18-2005, 05:29 PM
If my aunt had nuts...

stevo3883
12-18-2005, 05:30 PM
If my aunt had nuts...


... I would laugh at you?

tulexan
12-18-2005, 05:31 PM
well considering our Our Poor qb play even againts terrible defenses i dont see how we wont look at Matt Leinert ive heard some scout say he could be every good as P. Manning but who knows we have david carr we dont need a qb since david is so good.

Matt won't be as good as Peyton. He doesn't have the arm strength. I can see him being a better Chad Pennington before the injuries.

NinerPheen
12-18-2005, 05:50 PM
YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Conratulations on your win, i was watching just like the rest of you, wishing the Texans to victory. Hey, maybe you guys can beat jacksonville next week, that would be awesome. The Niners only lost to them by 1 today, and you guys are a better team than we are. I wouldnt worry about the strength of schedule, its not gonna matter unless one of us wins next week, GO TEXANS.

Reggie Bowl Jan 1st - Go Texas
Rose Bowl Jan 4th - Go SoCal

Goldeagle
12-18-2005, 06:28 PM
What do we do with it? I think drafting #2 this year is the absolute WORST draft position you could have. You won't be able to trade the pick for enough value (as you would with the Reggie Bush auction at #1), you don't need Leinert, and I don't think an OL is worth a 2nd overall pick. Wow, the Texans just keep making it harder and harder on themselves....


Totally disagree, many teams will want to move up. Agreed that it is not the first pick, but I dont want a team losing on purpose and looking like men with no Honor representing our town.

You have the option of still trading down or taking D'Brick or AJ Hawk. You can take Hawk here and get a LT later since there are a few good ones in this draft.

But I imagine the Lions, Jets and possibly Miami might want to look at Leinert who seems to be more of a bust than a star.

Bullpen Drew
12-18-2005, 06:29 PM
We still have destiny in our hands! All we have to do is let SF win!! Its not over yet!

David's Busted Carr
12-18-2005, 06:57 PM
what's even worst about this win is we will most likely finish 3-13 now. meaning SF will have the worst record at 2-14 and we might be tied with the Jets, Packers, & Saints. So this win today could end up costing us major draft position. We could drop down to #5!!!

bigcarlos
12-18-2005, 08:03 PM
We won and lost today:bomb:

wiley2002
12-18-2005, 08:27 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about most of our competition as far as draft position is conserned. As of right now it looks like we are going to draft O-line with our 1st rounder. If there's an opportunity to trade down then we can get some more first day picks. From there we get our O-lineman and some needed help elsewhere on the roster.

Goldeagle
12-18-2005, 08:29 PM
I dont really need D'brick, there are a few good Tackles in this draft. So I would not mind trading down to #6-9 and getting more picks. I like Huff from Texas as a Safety and most have him listed as a high second rounder and he would add the speed we need in the secondary.

stevo3883
12-18-2005, 09:05 PM
I dont really need D'brick, there are a few good Tackles in this draft. So I would not mind trading down to #6-9 and getting more picks. I like Huff from Texas as a Safety and most have him listed as a high second rounder and he would add the speed we need in the secondary.


actually every place ive seen has Huff as a mid first rounder.

edo783
12-18-2005, 09:52 PM
The only reason I wanted the 1st was to get more picks with it. The second won't get as many or maybe as good of picks, but it's still has value and I won't have to listen to 6 months of whinning from either the should/should not camps of the Reggie constituancy.

Interesting side bar on the selection if it comes down to SOS, whoever gets the first pick based on SOS then the one who gets the 2nd pick gets the 1st pick in the 2nd round. They swap positions. Not sure if that continues through all rounds, but I think so.

texplayer2
12-18-2005, 10:20 PM
I don't think the second pick will draw near the attention the first would have unless, USC behind Matt Lienert, lights up the scoreboard against Texas in the Rose Bowl. If he has a good game his value will rise or if Vince throws his hat in the ring after a solid Rose Bowl then the top few picks might be more valuable.

Kaiser Toro
12-19-2005, 10:11 AM
You Bush lovers can always have us trade up to the #1 if we do not get it.

Ryan
12-19-2005, 11:39 AM
there is a chance that san fran could beat the rams

tulexan
12-19-2005, 11:42 AM
i agree considering that they already have beaten the rams this year when bulger was the quarterback and when they actually had some form of a secondary.

there might just be an alex smith touchdown sighting for the first time.