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tulexan
12-18-2005, 12:02 PM
JB asked Jimmy Johnson point blank if he would fire Charley Casserly and he refused to answer. He was kind of implying that the problem is Casserly though by stressing that a good coach in Dom Capers is most likely going to be fired and that he believes that the talent is marginal. But he wouldn't answer directly what he would do if he was in McNair's position.

Then Howie chimed in and said that Jimmy is the only person that he would want to evaluate talent in the league.

This was a very akward segment and Jimmy Johnson did not look to comfortable answering questions about the Texans.

Goldeagle
12-18-2005, 01:52 PM
Everyone seems to have Capers back. How would you all feel if Casserly is gone and Capers stays (yes highly unlikely).

feebleminded
12-18-2005, 01:52 PM
JB asked Jimmy Johnson point blank if he would fire Charley Casserly and he refused to answer. He was kind of implying that the problem is Casserly though by stressing that a good coach in Dom Capers is most likely going to be fired and that he believes that the talent is marginal. But he wouldn't answer directly what he would do if he was in McNair's position.

Then Howie chimed in and said that Jimmy is the only person that he would want to evaluate talent in the league.

This was a very akward segment and Jimmy Johnson did not look to comfortable answering questions about the Texans.

Totally unfounded speculation, but I wonder what the fans reaction will be if McNair decides to fire Casserly and keep Capers with some changes to the assistants on his staff.

If Reeves preaches a ball controll offense similar to what Capers has been trying to do for the last 4 seasons, I wonder what he will be telling McNair about the HC's philosophy.

Then you have JJ presumably telling McNair that Dom is a good coach.

:shocked

feebleminded
12-18-2005, 01:52 PM
Everyone seems to have Capers back. How would you all feel if Casserly is gone and Capers stays (yes highly unlikely).

Beat me to it LOL

WWJD
12-18-2005, 02:12 PM
I didn't hear Jimmy today but he's probably tired of being asked about coaching the Texans..they went over all that yesterday on the Saturday show and after awhile when you repeat yourself over and over it's gets annoying. Even when you're paid millions to talk it's still annoying.

And after all I've read from fans on this board and others; people that pay to see the Texans and buy all the shirts and spend money tailgating and going to out of town games I would say if Dom stays there will be plenty of unhappy fans. Even if they win a few more games I still think people want him gone.

Sportsfan
12-18-2005, 02:28 PM
Everyone seems to have Capers back. How would you all feel if Casserly is gone and Capers stays (yes highly unlikely).


I myself would be happy b/c i still have faith in Dom, but your right its unfortunate Dom is probably gonna be the one thats gone for sure.

Napa Auto Parts
12-18-2005, 02:48 PM
i wouldnt mind dom staying but we bring in tom moore from indianapolis to do all the coaching and dom can sit and watch.

Hookem Horns
12-18-2005, 03:35 PM
JJ just made a comment that Wade Phillips should be a HC candidate for the Texans next season. His defense did shut down Manning and company today. BTW, I thought Wade Phillips was a 3-4 guy, I noticed the Chargers play 4 men on the D line.

PapaL
12-18-2005, 03:41 PM
JJ just made a comment that Wade Phillips should be a HC candidate for the Texans next season. His defense did shut down Manning and company today. BTW, I thought Wade Phillips was a 3-4 guy, I noticed the Chargers play 4 men on the D line.

They play both.

run-david-run
12-18-2005, 03:47 PM
JJ just made a comment that Wade Phillips should be a HC candidate for the Texans next season. His defense did shut down Manning and company today. BTW, I thought Wade Phillips was a 3-4 guy, I noticed the Chargers play 4 men on the D line.
They shut down Manning to the tune of 324 yds....:penalty:

Marcus
12-18-2005, 04:03 PM
Everyone seems to have Capers back. How would you all feel if Casserly is gone and Capers stays (yes highly unlikely).

Most football fans of teams that are having a bad season want the head coach fired, whether he deserves to be fired or not. It's simply an unwritten, unspoken tradition that is expected to be followed in order in order to give the frustrated, unhappy fan a sense of closure . . like burying the dead.

Coach C.
12-18-2005, 04:41 PM
I am of the opinion that Capers is a good DC and an average HC. He is a stand up guy and loyal to a fault, but he has lost alot of games. A coach with his record would be fired so he should be fired. Casserly and Fangio should see the door first though.

Erratic Assassin
12-18-2005, 06:11 PM
He was kind of implying that the problem is Casserly though by stressing that a good coach in Dom Capers is most likely going to be fired and that he believes that the talent is marginal.

Completely agree with JJ. Casserly gave Capers nothing to work with.

Htown34s
12-18-2005, 06:21 PM
Capers was never the coach of the future. It was almost a non-spoken truth that Capers was brought in to build the team, and that he would be replaced in 4 years unless we made the playoffs.

Capers has never done it for me. I just don't agree with his coaching philosophy. They should both be gone IMO.

Kaiser Toro
12-18-2005, 06:25 PM
As nice of a man as Capers it is time for him to move on and continue his career at what he does best, DC. We need to move on to the next chapter of Texan's history.

Grid
12-18-2005, 07:10 PM
If we brought in a new GM, and a very talented DC and OC.. id be fine with keeping Capers.

Id really like Phillips though.

ArlingtonTexan
12-18-2005, 07:18 PM
Capers was never the coach of the future. It was almost a non-spoken truth that Capers was brought in to build the team, and that he would be replaced in 4 years unless we made the playoffs.

Capers has never done it for me. I just don't agree with his coaching philosophy. They should both be gone IMO.

If this is even close to the truth, then the organization was doomed from the word go. No reason to hire a coach that you don't think build and run the organization once it starts to become successful.

Buffi2
12-18-2005, 07:29 PM
I am of the opinion that Capers is a good DC and an average HC. He is a stand up guy and loyal to a fault, but he has lost alot of games. A coach with his record would be fired so he should be fired. Casserly and Fangio should see the door first though.

Definitely! Don't forget Pendry! I think JJ and folks like him stand up for Capers because he is such a nice guy - no one ever said he wasn't. He might even be a good HC....somewhere else. I'm not sure the fans will be happy if either Casserly or Capers stays, unless a miracle happens and we make the playoffs next year. Unfortunately, or not, I don't think McNair has a choice - everyone has to go from Casserly on down. I would love to see Reeves as GM and Phillips as HC plus an awesome OC from anywhere.:yahoo:

Goldeagle
12-18-2005, 07:31 PM
Fangio should have never been let in

Jimpster
12-18-2005, 07:38 PM
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mean mark8
12-18-2005, 07:40 PM
Phillips is a good DC and lousy Head Coach. Capers is a good DC and lousy head coach. Both are good guys, but who gives a rat's behind that our coach is nice. Through 10 games into this season we had a lead for a total of 24 minutes 58 seconds. That shows we can't even be competitive. Casserly, Capers, and the entire coaching staff need to see the door. McNair has to make some huge changes this offseason. The stadium today was at best 50-60% full. That's with people already having paid for those empty seats. If some big changes aren't made, those empty seats will translate directly into reduced revenue for our owner who enjoys being a mid-market owner with a big-market revenue, for now. The Cardinals 3rd stringer had a better day today statistically than Carr. Warner was 10 for 10 before he got hurt. We stink and I don't think any part of the management structure that's put this on the field deserves to keep their jobs.

Jack Bauer
12-18-2005, 07:53 PM
Through 10 games into this season we had a lead for a total of 24 minutes 58 seconds.

Why did you only use the first 10 games, when we have played 14? Probably because the number would not look nearly as impressive. This is the perfect example of how anyone can make statistics work to "prove" their point.

That being said, I agree with your actual point. We need a total house cleaning. This game did nothing to change my mind. Arizona is just as bad as we are without Warner.

Hookem Horns
12-18-2005, 10:16 PM
Yeah, who needs nice? Look at what Tom Coughlin is doing for the Giants. He is one mean SOB, and reminds me of Bobby Knight.

Parcells is my all-time favorite coach and he doesn't become everyone's friend either. I like the fact that he is loyal to certain players but still doesn't take crap off of them.

Regardless, Capers "plays not to win" by his strategy of always keeping it close. I don't care for that style of coaching. It is chicken bleep IMO.

YoungTexanFan
12-18-2005, 10:21 PM
Regardless, Capers "plays not to win" by his strategy of always keeping it close. I don't care for that style of coaching. It is chicken bleep IMO.

I concur with you on this.

mean mark8
12-18-2005, 10:43 PM
Why did you only use the first 10 games, when we have played 14? Probably because the number would not look nearly as impressive. This is the perfect example of how anyone can make statistics work to "prove" their point.

That being said, I agree with your actual point. We need a total house cleaning. This game did nothing to change my mind. Arizona is just as bad as we are without Warner.

I just hadn't added them up since then. Out of 840 possible minutes, we have had a lead for all of 147 minutes 1 second. If you take out the Ram game, it drops to 100 minutes 40 seconds and if you take out the Cardinal game, it leaves us with 61 minutes 36 seconds. So, we've held a lead for less than 2.5 games worth of time all year long out of 14 (17.5% of possible minutes) and less than 2 games worth if you remove a loss that we managed to grasp from the jaws of victory. I might add, we won one of those 1st 10 games.

samomin
12-18-2005, 11:00 PM
IMO, Capers is a very good coach Monday through Saturday but not on Sundays.

HJam72
12-18-2005, 11:43 PM
I'm still with the fire Capers crowd, but I do find it ironic that most of us want JJ to replace Capers (and Casserly), but JJ says it's not Capers fault. idonno:

Jack Bauer
12-19-2005, 06:51 AM
I just hadn't added them up since then. Out of 840 possible minutes, we have had a lead for all of 147 minutes 1 second. If you take out the Ram game, it drops to 100 minutes 40 seconds and if you take out the Cardinal game, it leaves us with 61 minutes 36 seconds. So, we've held a lead for less than 2.5 games worth of time all year long out of 14 (17.5% of possible minutes) and less than 2 games worth if you remove a loss that we managed to grasp from the jaws of victory. I might add, we won one of those 1st 10 games.

It is just that if you are 2-12, you are to expect numbers like 147/840. That sounds reasonable. We have won 14.3% of our games and we have held the lead for 17.5% of the time. But I do get your point.