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Jack Bauer
12-17-2005, 10:10 AM
Two Jags Fined for Cheap Shots Against Colts (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2263463)

The out-of-control actions of two Jacksonville Jaguars defenders in last Sunday's loss to the Indianapolis Colts will cost them some money out of their paychecks.

The league this week fined defensive tackle John Henderson and middle linebacker Mike Peterson a total of $17,500 for excessive roughness penalties during an intense game in which the Jaguars clearly allowed their emotions to get the better of them.

Head coach Jack Del Rio, who was penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct in the second quarter, was not fined. It is believed, however, that Del Rio was reprimanded by the NFL. The call against Del Rio, which came when he challenged a catch by Marvin Harrison along the sideline, came on the same series as penalties against Peterson and Henderson.

Peterson, a one-time Colts starter whose former teammates charged him with numerous cheap shots during the game, was fined $10,000 for a pair of incidents. The first came on a late hit against Colts wide receiver Reggie Wayne following a 38-yard completion in the second quarter. The 15-yard penalty for unnecessary roughness, combined with the pass completion, moved the ball from the Indianapolis 48-yard line to the Jacksonville seven-yard line.

On the ensuing play, Henderson was penalized for repeatedly shoving the helmet of Colts offensive tackle Tarik Glenn into the ground after a running play. The penalty advanced the ball to the Jaguars' three-yard line. Henderson was fined $7,500 for the play.

The second incident involving Peterson occurred in the third quarter when he twisted the leg of tight end Bryan Fletcher. There was no penalty called on that play.

Peterson, who signed with the Jaguars as an unrestricted free agent in 2004 after playing with the Colts for the first four seasons of his career, said he will appeal the fines. It is not yet certain if Henderson will appeal. Peterson also suggested that the NFL demonstrated preference toward Indianapolis because Colts club president and general manger Bill Polian is a member of the influential competition committee.

"It was like, 'Indianapolis comes to town, now all the fines come out.' I hate all these fines and how they're changing the league around." Peterson said. "You can't even play the game the way you want to play it now."

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My question is: Is the league getting too soft? I think these fines are appropriate. I think the protection the league is now giving QBs borders on flag football. Pretty soon, the QB will be wearing the red jersey during games.

Kaiser Toro
12-17-2005, 10:28 AM
What came first the action or the consequence? If the League does not fine them after reviewing the play then yes the NFL has become soft for not enforcing the rules of the game.

FILO_girl
12-17-2005, 10:31 AM
Jags? Cheap hits? Aww, say it ain't so! Not the angelic Jags! :sarcasm:

aj.
12-17-2005, 11:29 AM
Copy-Paste: Del Rio is the modern day Jerry Glanville.



An occasional fine due to an isolated incident or two - no problem. But when it becomes a pattern and business as usual as it has with these goobers - problem.

I like aggresiveness - who doesn't? - especially when you are trying to establish an identity. I'd rather my team have a little bit of a badazz rep than be 'model citizens' and continually get their butts kicked. There's definitely an edge to be gained by having that rep precede you. It helps you get in the heads of your opponents days before the game.

Kaiser Toro
12-17-2005, 11:33 AM
Copy-Paste: Del Rio is the modern day Jerry Glanville.



An occasional fine due to an isolated incident or two - no problem. But when it becomes a pattern and business as usual as it has with these goobers - problem.

I like aggresiveness - who doesn't? - especially when you are trying to establish an identity. I'd rather my team have a little bit of a badazz rep than be 'model citizens' and continually get their butts kicked. There's definitely an edge to be gained by having that rep precede you. It helps you get in the heads of your opponents days before the game.

Agreed. Attitude, Identity and Leadership are intangibles that our young franchise has been lacking.

TexanAlmighty
12-19-2005, 09:48 AM
Doesn't surprise me that John Henderson was fined for excessive roughness penalties.

Youngstown Colt
12-19-2005, 12:24 PM
The personal fouls were pretty sleezy. Henderson just kept shoving Tariks face into the dirt.

The second incident involving Peterson occurred in the third quarter when he twisted the leg of tight end Bryan Fletcher. There was no penalty called on that playThis play was downright disgusting. Bryans knee was planted in the ground, and Peterson kept ripping at him and twisting him around. I thought Fletcher was definately gonna tear some ligaments. And to think, I used to be a Peterson fan.

edo783
12-19-2005, 01:06 PM
Jags and sleazy play, cheap hit and fines???? WOW, never would have expected that from such a classy org.???

Keyser Soze
12-20-2005, 12:59 PM
Jags? Cheap hits? Aww, say it ain't so! Not the angelic Jags! :sarcasm:

Exactly. JJ Moses was never the same after a cheap hit by the Jags. He called a fair catch, and they just drilled him.

No Texan got in the Jag's face about it. Nobody had JJ's back. I was disgusted by that as much as I was the cheap hit by the Jags. Moses deserved better.

jags98
12-21-2005, 10:24 AM
The personal fouls were pretty sleezy. Henderson just kept shoving Tariks face into the dirt.

This play was downright disgusting. Bryans knee was planted in the ground, and Peterson kept ripping at him and twisting him around. I thought Fletcher was definately gonna tear some ligaments. And to think, I used to be a Peterson fan.

And all of the Colts fans called our team Soft when you guys cheapshotted us. Do you even remember our first meeting of the year?

Maybe Tarik Gleen shouldnt cut block him when he was engaged with your RG and that wouldnt have happened.... If you have a video... check it out.

aj.
12-21-2005, 12:00 PM
Befitting of this thread, I offer one of Dave's best rants ever. Priceless and almost timeless.

http://www.houstonprofootball.com/chair/arm34.html

God of Wine
12-22-2005, 04:08 PM
Befitting of this thread, I offer one of Dave's best rants ever. Priceless and almost timeless.

http://www.houstonprofootball.com/chair/arm34.html


Thanks for the link, great write up!!

How the hell did Jacksonville get an NFL team in the first place?
:)

:redtowel:

FILO_girl
12-22-2005, 04:47 PM
Befitting of this thread, I offer one of Dave's best rants ever. Priceless and almost timeless.

http://www.houstonprofootball.com/chair/arm34.html

Thanks for reposting the link, aj. I love that article and never tire of reading it. :)

xfive4x
12-23-2005, 06:30 PM
And all of the Colts fans called our team Soft when you guys cheapshotted us. Do you even remember our first meeting of the year?

Maybe Tarik Gleen shouldnt cut block him when he was engaged with your RG and that wouldnt have happened.... If you have a video... check it out.

EXACTLY! Everyone just sees the reaction and not the cause.

txhoosier
12-28-2005, 10:28 PM
EXACTLY! Everyone just sees the reaction and not the cause.
the "cause" is a thug mentality that starts at the head coach, and works its way down to the players.

Your franchise could stand to learn a thing or two from the Colts. Jags fans are classless, and the team plays like a bunch of no-talent scrubs, who resort to late hits and obvious unsportsmanlike conduct to "get into the opponents head".

Typical attempt by your group to re-direct the actual "cause". What goes around comes around. Your team has been doing it for years, and they cry like little girls when it comes back around to them. Just like the Broncos, except the Broncos are actually a talented team.