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Hervoyel
07-31-2004, 10:50 PM
At the bottom of this story on Corey Bradford is a not very good blurb about Bennie hurting his groin again. Damn I'm sorry to see that.

Jorrpu information at the bottom under "Notes" (http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/2712628)

El Tejano
08-01-2004, 12:26 AM
I have been waiting for this guy to make the team to show what he can do and this happens. Halloway is going to have to take advantage of this opportunity.

ArlingtonTexan
08-01-2004, 10:44 AM
This chronicle story seems to imply that Bennie was not doing all that well during the off season unlike we were hearing.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/2713077

dalemurphy
08-01-2004, 10:49 AM
....damn It

thegr8fan
08-01-2004, 11:02 AM
not at all concerned. Billy Miller is still at TE and I think he will continue to improve on the good job he has done for us in the first 2 seasons. Joppru may be looking for a job shortly if he doesn't start doing something besides call out 'Medic'. :popcorn:

Scooter
08-01-2004, 11:18 AM
lets hope bruener gets/stays healthy. folks that have watched him over the years repeatedly say that his catching ability is just fine, but that the system in pittsburgh never game him a chance. plus we know how evil a blocker he is.

it's a shame if joppru's hurt, he's been getting some really good publicity about being our feature TE in years to come because he's more balanced than the "specialists" we're otherwise using.

F-minus67
08-01-2004, 11:39 AM
was he injury prone in college or is this just injury that takes a long time to heal?

BuffSoldier
08-01-2004, 11:46 AM
Well its times like this that make you glad of our depth at TE. Think about that, the Texans have depth at a position, that sounds good. But seriously thats a bumer because I really wanted to see what Bennie could do and if we made the right decision choosing him over Jason Witten.

Vinny
08-01-2004, 01:21 PM
was he injury prone in college or is this just injury that takes a long time to heal?
He has no history of injury in College. Its unfortunate, but hopefully it's resolvable. If not, look for us to draft a TE early next year.

jacquescas
08-01-2004, 03:04 PM
This is soo unfortuneate. Hopefully he can come of the PUP list and be ready to work his way back into the rotation. If he could be starting by week 14, and we could get 3 solid games with him, it would at least let us see what we have in him. I wouldn't want to waste another high draft pick on a tight end.

Vinny
08-01-2004, 05:43 PM
Waste? The Colts and Patriots have picked a TE in the first round three times in the last two years. The Titans first pick this year was a TE. They are three of the better offensive teams in the league. TE is a largely underappreciated position and a good one makes your offense click.

Marcus
08-01-2004, 07:15 PM
Have to agree with Vinny there.

I think the think the Texans management will soon soon decide that Joppru is permanently damaged, and will have to cut bait. I don't fault them for drafting him. He had no prior history of injury in college. But nontheless, consider him a bust and move on.

And yes, from here on out, I'd say they're gonna take a TE high in the draft until one finally pans out. The position is that important.

Carr Bombed
08-01-2004, 07:23 PM
I guess the only good thing is that this didnt happen during the season, but before training camp, so now they have time to make a game plan without him.

I just hope the injury bug doesnt start biting.

Fiddy
08-01-2004, 09:00 PM
Also things happen for a reason, anyone know of any good TE's coming out next year? I know there will be some that standout later in the year, but if there is any studs out there?Kevin Everett, the guy replacing Winslow at Miami, is suppose to be pretty good

Vinny
08-01-2004, 09:34 PM
Heath Miller (http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2004/Players/Virginia_HeathMiller.htm) is probably the best TE in College football not named Matt Herian (Nebraska).

chicagotexan
08-02-2004, 07:41 AM
Miller is a good receiver, but he can't be counted on to push the d-line around. Bennie has (had) that ability and can (could) catch. I was hoping to see what he could do this year, hopefully he recovers and puts this injury bug behind him.

JustBonee
08-02-2004, 10:47 AM
So for now, this will have to be the year of Mark Bruener. He's going to assume the leadership role at the position. Glad we got him. He brings strength to the position. Billy Miller just doesn't have it IMO.
And like stated above, I do agree ... TE has to be a high priority come next year.

SheTexan
08-02-2004, 12:04 PM
I LOVE to say I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!! BJ is a bust, pure and simple! All you Billy Miller naysayer's just sit back and watch. That's all I have to say about that!!

I wonder how much BJ gets paid for doing NOTHING!! Oh, excuse me, that's not true! He carries around BILLY MILLER'S helmet and pads!! :hehe:

Vinny
08-02-2004, 12:13 PM
I feel bad for the guy. A "bust" is a guy who can't play the position. Benny can play, he has just been injured. Even though I have my favorites I don't root for the guys behind them on the depth chart any injuries. He was just PUP'ed. It's not like he is done or on IR. Lot's of players around the league are on the pup list right now who will see the field this year. I hope he recovers and helps us win some games. I hope Miller does well also.

SESupergenius
08-02-2004, 12:24 PM
you'd have to consider him a bust right now. Kaz was out because of injuries and is considered a bust. Same with Boz. If a guy doesn't play for you at all then, yes that is a bust, as in a failure, a flop renderd inoperable or unusable. So far it can be considered a bust until proven otherwise.

I too am glad to see that we brought in Bruener to shore up this position. Its not too difficult to call this a great loss only that we are not seeing the benefits of a 2nd round selection. We've didn't have him last year so the addition of Bruener fills that void. If we need to shut Joppru down for this season then no big deal. Bruener is our Joppru for now. Let's just hope Jop can get better.

J-Man
08-02-2004, 12:29 PM
The unfortunate thing is that Joppru is dinging our salary cap for 2yrs and hasn't seen suited up for a single game. I am not sure what his contract is but as we've all seen, every little bit counts. I think the jury is definetly still out on Joppru, but there is only so much time you can give a guy to recover before you have to cut your losses. I am not sure what the answer is for this guy, but I hope he can get on the field and we can find out what we are actually paying for.

Vinny
08-02-2004, 12:35 PM
you'd have to consider him a bust right now. Lots of players are Pup'ed right now. Like Grant Winstrom in Seattle for example; he will play this year, I guarantee it. I won't consider him a bust until he is cut or can't play this season. Unless you can see the future, nobody can say if he will get on the field or not this year. Being pup'ed is not like getting cut or being put on IR.

aj.
08-02-2004, 12:40 PM
His signing bonus was $1.6 on a 4 year deal. His bases are league minimum or close to it.

nunusguy
08-02-2004, 01:09 PM
To Shetexan - you're remarks re. Bennie Joppru and his unjury are way out of
line ! I'm going to assume you don't realize that, else you wouldn't have made them in the first place.
BJ didn't cause his injury, it just happened to him. The guy is probably totally distraught about now, faced with the real posiblility of not having the opportunity to realize his potential and compete for a place on the team - in other words his career in the NFL may be over without really having starting.
I thought a 2nd round pick was high for him - but he could have come in as a 7th round pick, same effect upon him.
As far as Miller goes, he is not our long-term, permanent solution at TE. He is
basically a slow WR masquerading as a TE - whether from lack of bulk, strength, blocking tecnique, or a combination of one or more, he's inadequate as a blocker
at the TE position.

SESupergenius
08-02-2004, 01:35 PM
Lots of players are Pup'ed right now. Like Grant Winstrom in Seattle for example; he will play this year, I guarantee it. I won't consider him a bust until he is cut or can't play this season. Unless you can see the future, nobody can say if he will get on the field or not this year. Being pup'ed is not like getting cut or being put on IR The difference between Wistrom and Joppru is the severity of injuries and the prognosis. Joppru hasn't played a down yet in the NFL, while Wistrom has. That is not even a close analogy. We can already call Joppru a bust because he has not played a down for us and it doesn't look good for him for this year either. So ya, he's been a bust. There's been tons of players that have landed on the PUP never to return during the season.

Vinny
08-02-2004, 01:41 PM
I wasn't comparing their NFL contributions. Only the fact that PUP'ed players aren't lost for the year.

SESupergenius
08-02-2004, 01:49 PM
Then I don't know what your argument is. PUP'd players CAN be lost for a year. With the severity of his injury it looks like he will. It's been well over a year now. No I can't see the future, but I can learn from the past.

Vinny
08-02-2004, 01:59 PM
Im not arguing anything. Just making candid comments.

JustBonee
08-02-2004, 01:59 PM
To Shetexan - you're remarks re. Bennie Joppru and his unjury are way out of line ! I'm going to assume you don't realize that, else you wouldn't have made them in the first place.
BJ didn't cause his injury, it just happened to him. The guy is probably totally distraught about now, faced with the real posiblility of not having the opportunity to realize his potential and compete for a place on the team - in other words his career in the NFL may be over without really having starting.
I thought a 2nd round pick was high for him - but he could have come in as a 7th round pick, same effect upon him.
As far as Miller goes, he is not our long-term, permanent solution at TE. He is
basically a slow WR masquerading as a TE - whether from lack of bulk, strength, blocking tecnique, or a combination of one or more, he's inadequate as a blocker
at the TE position.

I cannot understand anyone making fun of injured players either. Anytime there are high hopes from the Texans of getting strength at a position and it doesn't pan out, it hurts the whole team. They don't need the setbacks.
Bruener coming over from the Steelers should hopefully help. I would imagine they got him just in case what happened to Joppru happened. Bruener seems experienced enough to take over as long as he stays healthy and maybe he can help Miller along some. But weak links have to be replaced at all positions if we want to be a contending team.

blockhead83
08-03-2004, 12:26 AM
I'm pretty disappointed that Joppru's had another set back. I was under the impression that it was a difficult injury to recover from, but I was really encouraged by the progress he seemed to be making in the mini-camps. Luckily we have two good TE's to play if Joppru's a no-go. I hope he comes back to play this season, h*ll I just hope he comes back to play for us period, because using a 2nd round pick for a player that never hits the field really takes a negative hit on the outcome of last years draft. More importantly I feel sorry for the guy, going from the elation of being selected in the second round to facing the possibility of having to find a new career is a rough start in the real world.