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edo783
12-15-2005, 04:52 PM
Just asking, because IF we take Bush he will likely be our next best option for an LT at the top of the second round. I noticed that he made 1st team all american, so that's good. Kind of interesting in that I don't think Winston made it (might have made 2nd team or something). D'Brick did of course. So, what I am getting at, if we take Bush, will there be a QUALITY LT available. Not just adequate, but QUALITY?

SESupergenius
12-15-2005, 04:59 PM
I will be very curious to see how he goes vs. USC. Suffice it to say I think that almost every Texan fan should watch this game as there are so many players on both sides of the ball. We have a good shot at landing at least 1 of the players on these teams.

Sarg01
12-15-2005, 08:06 PM
Just asking, because IF we take Bush he will likely be our next best option for an LT at the top of the second round. I noticed that he made 1st team all american, so that's good. Kind of interesting in that I don't think Winston made it (might have made 2nd team or something). D'Brick did of course. So, what I am getting at, if we take Bush, will there be a QUALITY LT available. Not just adequate, but QUALITY?

Scott's pretty darn good. There's a chance he'll be there at picks 33-36, but don't bet the farm on it. There's 5 or 6 excellent tackle prospects this year - Brick, Winston, Justice, McNeill, Scott and Colledge all have very real 1st round chances.

YoungTexanFan
12-15-2005, 09:14 PM
I honestly do not believe scott will make a good nfl LT. I see him as a pitts type player: adequate if that is all you need, less than stellar when you need more.

IF (and we shouldn't) we pick bush first, i would look maybe at Witworth who will be good but not great, and then luiti as a G. he plays for usc and is dominant at all times.

MorKnolle
12-15-2005, 09:33 PM
Scott's pretty darn good. There's a chance he'll be there at picks 33-36, but don't bet the farm on it. There's 5 or 6 excellent tackle prospects this year - Brick, Winston, Justice, McNeill, Scott and Colledge all have very real 1st round chances.

A couple of these guys (McNeill and Scott) seem to be better fitted for OG than OT from what I've heard, at least I've heard more scouting reports of them as OG than OT.

royce1054
12-15-2005, 09:34 PM
If some how we draft in the 20's i think we can get a Scott or McNeil and keep pitts at LT.

YoungTexanFan
12-15-2005, 10:47 PM
"I honestly do not believe scott will make a good nfl LT. I see him as a pitts type player: adequate if that is all you need, less than stellar when you need more.

IF (and we shouldn't) we pick bush first, i would look maybe at Witworth who will be good but not great, and then luiti as a G. he plays for usc and is dominant at all times."

alright, who left the "not very smart comment about my above post?!?!?" jerks...:challenge

ArlingtonTexan
12-15-2005, 10:51 PM
On Scott, the stuff I have seen question his consistency, not so much that he is better suited as a guard. I have seen him anywhere from a top 10 to 3rd round.

On LT class as a whole, 5 or 6 guys with the talent to be in the first round, but none them really dominated in the manner thought before the season. I expect there to be, especially given the perception now, one or two of these guys to "drop" further than projected now.

YoungTexanFan
12-15-2005, 11:14 PM
On Scott, the stuff I have seen question his consistency, not so much that he is better suited as a guard. I have seen him anywhere from a top 10 to 3rd round.

On LT class as a whole, 5 or 6 guys with the talent to be in the first round, but none them really dominated in the manner thought before the season. I expect there to be, especially given the perception now, one or two of these guys to "drop" further than projected now.

I expect all of them to drop further than expected.

YoungTexanFan
12-15-2005, 11:32 PM
Jon Scott
Pros: Nice frame that can add wieght to it without losing quickness, Has shown ability to be both a punishing run blocker and effective pass protector, has solidified himself as one of the best offensive linemen to come out of the Big 12 while facing some of the best defensive linemen in the nation for four years as a starter.
Cons: Will need strength training inorder to be prepared for some of the stronger defensive linmen in the NFL, Has the quickness needed to match speed rushers but is not very strong at first contact.
Draft Exchange Analysis:
produced by AshimariBozu Big, athletic fourth-year offensive lineman who is quickly developing into one of the Big 12’s best tackles … has displayed the athletic ability necessary to be an effective pass blocker and the strength to line up and run block … started all 13 games at left tackle in 2003 … tabbed third-team All-Big 12 by the conference coaches as a sophomore … has 20 career starts after making seven starts at right tackle in 2002 ... opened the 2002 season as the starting RT but was slowed by injury early in the year … played in all 13 games, started the last six games and seven contests overall as a redshirt freshman … tabbed honorable mention All-Big 12 by The Associated Press … earned a spot on The Sporting News’ Big 12 All-Freshman team … worked at left tackle during his redshirt season in ’01 … earned a spot on UT’s Athletics Director’s Academic Honor Roll in his first four semesters at UT.

Sophomore (2003) Started all 13 games at left tackle … tabbed third-team All-Big 12 by the conference coaches … picked second-team All-Big 12 by the San Antonio Express-News and honorable mention All-Big 12 by The Associated Press … shared UT’s Most Improved Offensive Player honor ... key member of a line that paved the way for the nation’s sixth-ranked scoring offense (41.0 ppg) and eighth-ranked rushing offense (232.5 ypg) … UT recorded four 300-yard rushing games and rushed for 3,023 yards in 2003, both were the most since 1977 … UT’s 41 rushing touchdowns were the fourth most nationally … Texas set school records for points (533) and total yards (5,709) on the year … helped the offense gain 515 total yards at Rice, including 322 yards rushing ... repeated the 515 total yards of offense the next week against Tulane ... helped UT’s offense post a season-high 578 yards at Iowa State and opened up the field for another Benson 100-yard rushing game … helped the offense net 484 yards against No. 12 Nebraska and four rushing TDs … helped the offense earn 502 yards against No. 21 Oklahoma State, including 298 rushing yards and five rushing touchdowns … opened holes for Cedric Benson to rush for a career-high 283 yards (No. 4 on UT’s single-game rushing list) and four touchdowns at Texas A&M.

Redshirt Freshman (2002) Played in 12 games, including the Cotton Bowl, and started seven contests overall at right tackle … started the final six games … missed the Oklahoma contest due to injury … an honorable mention All-Big 12 selection by The Associated Press … also earned Freshman All-Big 12 honors from The Sporting News … a key member of UT offense that ranked fifth in the Big 12 and 16th nationally in scoring offense (33.8 ppg.) … helped open holes for UT's eighth consecutive 1,000-yard rusher in sophomore Cedric Benson (1,293 yards) … a two-time recipient of UT’s Darrell K Royal Offensive Player of the Week Award (vs. No. 17 Iowa State, at North Carolina) … helped the offense post 498 total yards (including a UT-record 419 passing) at Nebraska, 450 against Baylor, 437 at Texas Tech and 412 against Oklahoma State … helped open holes for sophomore RB Cedric Benson’s ninth career 100-yard rushing game (199 yards on 30 carries), as the offense tallied 386 total yards against No. 17 Iowa State … helped the offense net a season-high 569 yards at North Carolina … helped the offense post 477 total yards and 39:43 in time of possession against Houston … opened holes for Benson’s back-to-back 100-yard rushing efforts at North Carolina (31-208) and against Houston (37-160) … redshirted in 2001.

High School Coached by Bret Alexander at Carter High … a three-year letterman who earned second-team All-USA honors from USA Today as an offensive lineman as a senior … also served as the team’s deep snapper … tabbed first-team all-state (5A) after registering 81 pancake blocks for an offense that averaged better than 300 yards per game in 2000 … did not allow a sack during the year … earned first-team all-district honors as a sophomore and junior … also lettered twice in basketball and track & field … a regional qualifier in the shot put with a career-best toss of 48-7 as a junior.

I'm not denying that he has the physical ability to get it done at the next level adequatly and be solid. However, I personally feel that he is not worth any more than a late 2nd as of now. We can call it a gut feeling, but I just feel he will be moved to guard eventually in his career. A difference in opinions that is not offensive does not warent a bad reputation point.

royce1054
12-15-2005, 11:39 PM
I'm not denying that he has the physical ability to get it done at the next level adequatly and be solid. However, I personally feel that he is not worth any more than a late 2nd as of now. We can call it a gut feeling, but I just feel he will be moved to guard eventually in his career. A difference in opinions that is not offensive does not warent a bad reputation point.


Jon Scott

Position:
OT

College:
Texas

Projected Selection:
Top32

I got this off a site... this is no way unless he has a horrible Rose Bowl, Combine, and senior bowl's he wont slip out of the 1st round. I think 20-29 is a good area to look for him. I do see a possibility of trading 1 of the picks we get for Bush and trading back up into the 1st round... Remember is they plan on moving back up into the 1st round and taking a player like Scott, McNeil, Giles, Setterstrom, Cooledge, whitworth... then we could go A.J. Hawk in the 1st or go a Jimmy Williams CB Va Tech... The question is does Reeves think Hawk, J Williams, D brick, or Winston with the 1st pick... then does he see a Scott, McNeil, Giles, Setterstrom, Cooledge, whitworth being a good enough player for us... remember Reeves rarely make the mistakes that Casserly and Capers/

ArlingtonTexan
12-15-2005, 11:52 PM
Royce,

No problem with getting the info from another site (as long it is not pay), but either give the site's name or even better post the link.

royce1054
12-15-2005, 11:56 PM
Royce,

No problem with getting the info from another site (as long it is not pay), but either give the site's name or even better post the link.


http://www.nflfans.com/x/2006/showplayer.php?key=Jon%20Scott

its free

ArlingtonTexan
12-16-2005, 12:13 AM
http://www.nflfans.com/x/2006/showplayer.php?key=Jon%20Scott

its free

cool...thanks a bunch.

P.S. (to everyone) my pop-up blocker did not like that site.