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Grid
11-28-2005, 10:12 PM
I just posted in another thread about Wade Phillips and it reminded me of something else ive been wanting to post about.

When we hired this coaching staff.. we took a slew of "2nd chancers".. guys that couldnt make it somewhere else, so we hired them to work for us.

Sometimes that pays off...and all a guy needs is another chance in a new environment to really show how capable he is.. but alot of the time, it ends up biting you in the rear. And that is what happened to us.

So here is the million dollar question.. can McNair do something amazing? Can he get a coaching staff that isnt made up of cast offs?



Usually.. you DONT want to hire someone who just got fired somewhere else. They are obviously not doing too good right now if they just lost their job.. so why bring them in to do the same bad job for you?

It would be great if McNair could lure some great coaches away from their teams.. instead of taking the guys no one wants. An example is Wade Phillips.. defenisive coordinator for San Diego. If we could get him to come be our DC, that would rock.

I really dont want to see us with an all new lineup of underachievers. I dont want Martz... I dont want Billick... I dont want Mariucci.. I want talented guys that teams will hate to see leave.

If we want to succeed in the next 5 years.. we dont need to take any more chances on anyone..we need sure things.. and the only way to do that is to either bring someone great out of retirement (*cough*JimmyJohnson*cough*).. or lure them away from their current job.

Here is hoping that McNair will crack that checkbook and pull off some amazing hires this offseason.

texman8
11-28-2005, 11:28 PM
Mmmm...Didn't Casserly hired Capers? Another reason to fire CC.

Grid
11-28-2005, 11:31 PM
yah Casserly was responsible for alot of the hiring.. but McNair hired Casserly and he signs the checks.

zeplin
11-28-2005, 11:45 PM
Bob STOOPES!!!

billtxus
11-29-2005, 01:03 PM
What isn't clear at all is whether McNair knows how to run a football team. There is more to it than being a billionaire who is a nice guy, and who built a nice stadium. Now is when he needs to show that he actually understands the game, who to fire and who to hire. Its not going to be easy since I'm hard pressed to say that anyone ( other than maybe special teams coach) he has hired so far is a guy we can't afford to lose.

HardKnockTexan
11-29-2005, 01:09 PM
What isn't clear at all is whether McNair knows how to run a football team. There is more to it than being a billionaire who is a nice guy, and who built a nice stadium. Now is when he needs to show that he actually understands the game, who to fire and who to hire. Its not going to be easy since I'm hard pressed to say that anyone ( other than maybe special teams coach) he has hired so far is a guy we can't afford to lose.

The only mistake McNair has made, albeit a huge one, was hiring Charlie Casserly. It was Casserly who brought in this coaching staff, not McNair. This is a football team to us fans, but to McNair it is a business and he has proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he knows what it takes for a business to succeed. I'm looking foward to seeing how the rest of this season and offseason plays out and I'm confident that McNair will do what it takes to make his business as sucessfull as possible.

TEXANS84
11-29-2005, 01:12 PM
Here's an interesting article I just stumbled across from 2003:

HBJ: So it's not "Just win, baby."

McNair: No. Not at all. We believe strongly that character counts, and it counts in your performance, and it counts when the going gets close, because to have character you have to be disciplined, and if you are disciplined, then under pressure you still perform, and you won't make that mental error. Those who are undisciplined are the ones who tend to break down. I think it shows on the playing field, just as it does off the field.

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/2003/08/25/story6.html?page=1

Corrosion
11-29-2005, 01:34 PM
You cant place much blame on Mcnair .... He's the Owner . Not the GM , Coach or Quarterback .... Sure he pays the bills but he makes VERY FEW football related decisions . Those are left up to the staff he hired .

Same goes for MOST owners in professional sports . They are businessmen who have made fortunes in other places not people who grew up in the business we call the NFL . The Majority arent Qualified to make football based personal decisions .... Thats why they hire a GM to do so . There are a few owners in the sports world that are "Hands On" but they are the exception not the rule . Two in Dallas come to mind ... Mark Cuban (mav's)and Jerry Jones (cowpies) ... You hear and see these two in the media far too often .... but what of the 90-odd other Pro sports team owners . They put their trust in a GM and let them handle the vast majority of team operation . McNair falls into this category .

The problem starts with the first person he hired ... GM Riverboat Gambler Charley Casserly . That is the first position that he must replace ...

nunusguy
11-29-2005, 01:59 PM
What isn't clear at all is whether McNair knows how to run a football team. There is more to it than being a billionaire who is a nice guy, and who built a nice stadium. Now is when he needs to show that he actually understands the game, who to fire and who to hire. Its not going to be easy since I'm hard pressed to say that anyone ( other than maybe special teams coach) he has hired so far is a guy we can't afford to lose.
I think we need to consider the past and present tense. Could be that McNair
"didn't" know how to run a team, but very likely does "now" know how to run a team. I'm not suggesting that he might replace Casserly with himself and thereby become the Texans GM, but he has now owned this team for about 6 years and must have learned a lot about operating an NFL franchise. Whether its Casserly or another GM in the
future, I suspect he may be a silent operating partner of the future GM and therefor much more hands on than in the past. The team is his investment

touttail
11-29-2005, 05:45 PM
Mmmm...Didn't Casserly hired Capers? Another reason to fire CC.


Capers :homer: was NOT hired because of his coaching skills. He was hired because he had started up an expansion team before. He is very organized and McNair felt he was best for this because he did it before.

You got to admit it, I do, that it was a good selection at the time, because he knew what to do about starting a new team!

bobby 119C:brickwall

Double Barrel
11-29-2005, 10:16 PM
I heard a rumor on 610 this morning about Ron Wolf being interested in getting back into football. Man, he'd be a great hire! (the same conversation with John and Lance this morning mentioned another rumor, that Casserly's wife is not a big fan of the city of Houston, so they might be interested in going back east).

If we could snag Wolf, we'd have a great football mind that would easily help us find a good HC.

Tejaspro
11-30-2005, 01:00 AM
I, for one, would be thrilled if the Texans could hire Ron Wolf as GM. What a talent evaluator. He would be highly sought after if he were to come out of retirement.

As bad as the coaching has become on this team, you really have to be concerned with some of the player moves that Charlie Casserly has made. Granted, he did well with DD and Mathis. Even Pitts. And Dunta and AJ are great. So he has had his successes. But Babin and Bucannon haven't shown to be great moves... yet. Greenwood doesn't show much. Riley, forget it. And letting go some very good players.... I don't know.... I have my doubts.

This franchise needs a shot in the arm. Someone like Ron Wolf would fit that need, and then some.:texflag:

aj.
11-30-2005, 06:48 AM
fwiw, I contacted Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News about Ron Wolf (he knows him and wrote an article recently about his chances to get into the HoF). Anyway, here's what Rick had to say about Wolf:

I'd be surprised if he comes back. He's retired, living in Annapolis and loves it there. He's had some opportunities in the last few years and has passed on them. I'd hire Ron Wolf in a second if he said he wanted to come back. But I think he's had his fill of the NFL. The game has changed from the game he knew. The salary cap & free agency make it more difficult to maintain what you build. And there was no better builder...
Thanks for reading and writing.
Rick Gosselin

billtxus
11-30-2005, 01:14 PM
Im sure the business of the Houston Texans is succeeding. Every game is a sellout, Bob makes tons of money on concessions, parking, etc. Reliant Stadium is great. So as a business the Texas are doing great. As a sports team not so great. And that is what I refer to. Bob may be great at hiring businessmen to run his business but he has yet to show that he knows how to run a football team. If you say the only thing he has done wrong is hire CC, and basically that is the only thing he has done, well then his track record isn't very good yet.

billtxus
11-30-2005, 01:19 PM
Well the owner needs to know how to fix the current mess. Does he fire Capers and Charlie now? later? not at all? This does get to whether he knows how to run a team, and does what's best to put a winning team on the field. Im not saying he won't do the right thing, just that right now we don't know. He has some difficult decisions to make, up until this year he's pretty much gotten a free pass as the team was an expansion team, and doing resonably well. We will know a lot more by spring.