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the-wiz
11-28-2005, 07:19 PM
John Clayton has a list of possible coaches for the Detroit Lions now that Mariucci got the ax. What coaches would you want/not want for us? I'm a big fan of Kubiak, but I think that's the consensus around this board for the time being.
Here's the link
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2239800

Kaiser Toro
11-28-2005, 07:23 PM
It will be interesting to see how fast Grimm's name gets off that list. If it stays it could be a signal that Cass is gone.

aj.
11-28-2005, 07:24 PM
It will be a Grimm outlook if McNair decides to keep Casserly.

edit: Interesting how we both zeroed in on that name at the same moment.

Wolf
11-28-2005, 07:47 PM
Jimmy Johnson with Norv as OC and Wandsadt as DC .. (sarcasm right there)
:heh:

edo783
11-28-2005, 07:59 PM
Here are some that John Clayton looked at for the Lions. Shwartz of the Titanics looks pretty good.

• Dick Jauron, interim coach, Detroit: Jauron would be considered if he can salvage three victories over the final five weeks. Jauron isn't considered a disciplinarian but he is a strong, quiet, steady boss. Players trust him. At Chicago, he always had a good feel for the locker room. He knew when to work the team hard or when to be soft. Millen made him no promises. It's his job for five games.


• Mike Martz (St. Louis), Brian Billick (Baltimore) and Norv Turner (Oakland): They could be on Millen's list if they are let go. With a lot of changes coming, it's possible they would draw some consideration from Millen, who will be trying to sell his young, underachieving talent. All three are offensive coaches, and offense needs the most work.

• Jim Bates, defensive coordinator, Green Bay: Bates is the kind of disciplinarian who could be a good fit. Bates was the interim coach in Miami last year and put his name on the short list of teams. Bates has done a good job with little talent in Green Bay just to make them a middle of the pack defense.

• Tim Lewis, defensive coordinator, N.Y. Giants: After the slow start, the Giants' defense has come on and Lewis is a rising star among coaches. His schemes are aggressive and players respond to him.

• Bob Bratkowski, offensive coordinator, Cincinnati: His work with Carson Palmer (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6337) has made him a future head coaching prospect. Bratkowski has built the Bengals' offense from the beginnings of the Marvin Lewis era. He built a running game around Rudi Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5548). He managed the development of Palmer properly. Now, he's implementing a lot of no-huddle options for Palmer.

• Donnie Henderson, defensive coordinator, N.Y. Jets: Henderson is fiery, which could appeal to Millen. He's aggressive in how he motivates the Jets' defense. Since taking over a couple of years ago, Henderson hasn't accepted anything less than full effort. He wants maximum performance and has been able to get that out of his unit. The Jets have played hard on defense despite the problems that they've had on offense.

• Russ Grimm, offensive line coach, Pittsburgh: He could be a candidate for a couple of jobs; maybe in Houston and Detroit. He's like Millen in many ways. He's to the point and gets great execution from his players. Last year, he interviewed for the Bears' head coaching job. The former Washington Redskins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was) "Hog" is all football, and he's disciplined. Millen might like that.

• Jim Schwartz, defensive coordinator, Tennessee: He's one of the bright young minds in the league and is fiery along the sidelines. He's about as advanced in the technology of coaching as anyone in the league. He's has computer studies for everything. He's up to date on most trends and studies. Plus, he's willing to work with young players, which is important in the modern day salary cap era.

http://espn.go.com/media/nfl/2004/0120/photo/g_payton_mug.jpgPayton• Sean Payton, assistant head coach, Cowboys: He was a top candidate for the Raiders' opening in 2004 and will be on the radar screen of several teams this season. Teams know he's worked with Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells, and that is a big plus. He's done a great job this year calling plays in helping Drew Bledsoe (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2359) have a Pro Bowl season and getting the Cowboys into the playoff race. Parcells will highly recommend Payton for this job.

• Gregg Williams, defensive coordinator/assistant head coach, Washington: The Chiefs will be interested in him if Dick Vermeil retires. Williams is bright and is demanding. He runs one of the most aggressive blitz packages in football. Things didn't work out the first time for him as a head coach of the Bills, but he's learned a lot in preparation for his second chance. Working with Joe Gibbs for two years has helped.

• Al Saunders, offensive coordinator, Kansas City: I still can't figure out why he doesn't get more of a look by more teams. Vermeil is going to recommend him as his replacement if he retires. Saunders was a head coach with the San Diego Chargers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sdg) and he's strict. Plus, he runs the popular Air Coryell offense that works so well in Kansas City, St. Louis and other places. John Clayton is a senior writer for ESPN.com.

Texizgreat
11-28-2005, 08:02 PM
Russ Grimm, offensive line coach, Pittsburgh: He could be a candidate for a couple of jobs; maybe in Houston and Detroit. He's like Millen in many ways. He's to the point and gets great execution from his players. Last year, he interviewed for the Bears' head coaching job. The former Washington Redskins "Hog" is all football, and he's disciplined. Millen might like that.

Isn't that what capers has been trying to get our guys to do??? If this Grimm Guy can "Get better exicution" then lets hire him now?!?!? :yahoo:

HJam72
11-28-2005, 08:18 PM
Judging simply by that list, I kind of like the idea of bringing in Sean Payton.

pv1999
11-28-2005, 09:14 PM
Mike.
Singletary.

Local no-nonsense guy. Championship experience. Will get the most out of these bulls@*$ LB's we have. Will be respected by team. Good fit for City.

bigcarlos
11-28-2005, 10:30 PM
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/ILOCHFJBPAJD/ryan_inside_050322.jpg
He would have the brass to punch the OC and other coaches. We would beat the Colts with this guy(after the bounty on Manning is collected of course):texflag:

Kaiser Toro
11-28-2005, 10:33 PM
He could totally take any Head Coach in the AFC South. Del Rio, DEAD! Dungy DEAD! Fisher, Deadman! Buddy you old salty dawg.

COOL V
11-28-2005, 10:34 PM
Bring back Buddy yeah, it may just work. I hope the Colts do go undefeated, then lose the first Playoff game. That would be sweet.

Grid
11-28-2005, 10:37 PM
Al Saunders intrigues me. If you look at the Chiefs offense.. we are very similar as far as the kind of players we have. The only thing we lack is that great offensive line.

If we could fix the offensive line.. I could see us running the same kind of offense that KC has had such success with.

I mean shoot.. we even have our own Daunte Hall (Mathis)..and DD is a priest holmes clone. And we are actually better off in the WR department.. and id say that Carr is as talented as any QB KC has had. The line is the only thing stopping us...that..and the coaching. Al Saunders would fix half the problem. Then just bring in a very talented DC and let him do his thing (WADE PHILLIPS!!!PLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE!!!)

Wharton
11-28-2005, 11:51 PM
Do we have to do this again!

There have been a ton of post on this exact same subject all season long.

Lets give it a rest already.

:deadhorse

SESupergenius
11-29-2005, 12:41 AM
Time Lewis or Saunders. I'd like to stick with a defensive minded coach as a head coach and get a good air attack with a new offensive coordinator

texansalltheway
11-29-2005, 08:06 AM
might as well put in my 2 cents about coaches. I personally hope that Tampa screws up and Kiffin decides to leave and consider s a head coaching job. If McNair throws enough money at him and gives him enough power over personel and coaching he might consider it. Although he has no Head Coaching experience in the NFL and he is a bit older (65) He has a proven track record of success for his unit. He has pretty much complete control of the defense in Tampa and can turn average talent into a good unit. His schemes and coverages are proven effective and he does make alot of decisions over defensive personel when it comes to the draft and FA, which you have to admit he is pretty good evaluator. It was reported that he signed an extension but he has denied he has and in fact they actually asked for a pay cut http://www.sptimes.com/2005/11/27/Bucs/Team_asked_Kiffin_to_.shtml

If he does come along he can bring his son Lane over as offensive co-ordinator. He currently holds that position at USC and coinsendently we have the opportunity to draft one of the best products out of USC. Talk about perfect fit if we hire Lane and draft Bush! Plus Lane used to be the QB at Fresno State and could quickly build a relationship with Carr and help him out.

As far as defensive co-ordinator Rod Marinelli the defensive line/assistant head coach for Tampa could follow Kiffin over here if he is unhappy with the Bucs and help turn this unit around. He is another highly regard assistant in this league and with us changing to a 4-3 developing our d-line and pass rush is crucial.

bckey
11-29-2005, 08:35 AM
I wouldn't mind this scenerio at all. That was well researched. I think the only knock on Kiffin is his age. He has never been a hc and is getting up in years to give it a go for the first time.

Hottoddie
11-29-2005, 11:28 AM
I'm hoping Bud lets Fisher go. Then, I'd say we hire Grimm as the GM & Fisher as the HC.

Hardcore Texan
11-29-2005, 12:41 PM
might as well put in my 2 cents about coaches. I personally hope that Tampa screws up and Kiffin decides to leave and consider s a head coaching job. If McNair throws enough money at him and gives him enough power over personel and coaching he might consider it. Although he has no Head Coaching experience in the NFL and he is a bit older (65) He has a proven track record of success for his unit. He has pretty much complete control of the defense in Tampa and can turn average talent into a good unit. His schemes and coverages are proven effective and he does make alot of decisions over defensive personel when it comes to the draft and FA, which you have to admit he is pretty good evaluator. It was reported that he signed an extension but he has denied he has and in fact they actually asked for a pay cut http://www.sptimes.com/2005/11/27/Bucs/Team_asked_Kiffin_to_.shtml

If he does come along he can bring his son Lane over as offensive co-ordinator. He currently holds that position at USC and coinsendently we have the opportunity to draft one of the best products out of USC. Talk about perfect fit if we hire Lane and draft Bush! Plus Lane used to be the QB at Fresno State and could quickly build a relationship with Carr and help him out.

As far as defensive co-ordinator Rod Marinelli the defensive line/assistant head coach for Tampa could follow Kiffin over here if he is unhappy with the Bucs and help turn this unit around. He is another highly regard assistant in this league and with us changing to a 4-3 developing our d-line and pass rush is crucial.

Sounds like a good idea to me, well thought out. I would also agree to bring in Kubiak or Saunders. We have to start making some PROGRESS!

:texflag:

beerlover
11-29-2005, 12:58 PM
seems like last year the thing to do was raid the Patriots coaching ranks so this year lets get ahead of the herd and hire one/some of the Colts coaching staff? if you can't beat 'em join 'em :)

Carr needs help. anyone disagree with that statement? why not bring in Tom Moore - Offensive Coordinator of the Colts & make him the head coach and Jim Caldwell - Asst. Head Coach / Quarterbacks into the OC?

going the defensive route I still like the Bills DC Jerry Gray.

Kaiser Toro
11-29-2005, 01:40 PM
seems like last year the thing to do was raid the Patriots coaching ranks so this year lets get ahead of the herd and hire one/some of the Colts coaching staff? if you can't beat 'em join 'em :)

Carr needs help. anyone disagree with that statement? why not bring in Tom Moore - Offensive Coordinator of the Colts & make him the head coach and Jim Caldwell - Asst. Head Coach / Quarterbacks into the OC?

going the defensive route I still like the Bills DC Jerry Gray.

Jerry Gray will be a hot name as the season draws to a close. From Lubbock and a former UT All-American.

El Tejano
11-29-2005, 02:36 PM
I'm hoping Bud lets Fisher go. Then, I'd say we hire Grimm as the GM & Fisher as the HC.
I've said that time and again. I like Kubiak, Sean Payton, Bratkowski, and Gregg Williams. Even though he did bad as a head coach, he was awesome as a D coordinator with the Titans and has done a wonderful job this year with the Redskins.

texan279
11-30-2005, 08:17 AM
Nothing gonna happen this season...from www.kffl.com

Texans | No Staff Changes Imminent
Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:14:11 -0800

John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports Houston Texans owner Bob McNair said he is currently evaluating head coach Dom Capers and the club's front office, including general manager Charley Casserly, and that Capers' job is safe for the rest of the season. "I don't see anything positive to come from a change during the season," McNair said. "We've got five games left, and we're going through an evaluation process that won't end until we've played 16 games. Sure, I'm angry about what's happened."

bckey
11-30-2005, 09:52 AM
Nothing gonna happen this season...from www.kffl.com

Texans | No Staff Changes Imminent
Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:14:11 -0800

John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports Houston Texans owner Bob McNair said he is currently evaluating head coach Dom Capers and the club's front office, including general manager Charley Casserly, and that Capers' job is safe for the rest of the season. "I don't see anything positive to come from a change during the season," McNair said. "We've got five games left, and we're going through an evaluation process that won't end until we've played 16 games. Sure, I'm angry about what's happened."

I really don't see what is left to evalute about Capers. He is horrible as a head coach and instead of motivating his players I really think he has the opposite effect on them. I'm sure that when he addresses the team he sounds like that teacher in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. I can picture the players yawning and nodding off.