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Tex-fan0604
11-27-2005, 12:24 PM
:texflag: Who should be our next head coach.Do yall think we have a chance at J.J.

Napa Auto Parts
11-27-2005, 12:27 PM
JJ Hopefully but ill settle for Pete Carroll:texflag:

Wolf
11-27-2005, 12:28 PM
I wouldn't mind Jeff Fisher if Bud decided that was enough of him.

texplayer2
11-27-2005, 12:45 PM
Pat Hill "Anywhere, Anytime, Anyplace" We need an attitude like that. Might jell well with our QB.

Hervoyel
11-27-2005, 12:59 PM
Zombie Vince Lombardi gets my vote.

Seriously my "wish" pick is Jimmy Johnson but bigTEXan8 is almost correct when he says it's not going to be. I disagree but I think it's extremely unlikely that we get him as opposed to "flat out not gonna happen" I never believe a coach when he says that he's not interested in coaching. John Madden is the exception, not the rule. If JJ won't come here it's probably not because he's too comfortable on his boat and working in the studio. It's because he doesn't want the Texans job, simple as that.

It could also mean that Bob McNair hadn't asked him which is something a lot of us (myself included) seem to overlook. Bob just may not want Jimmy Johnson here. He may like him, think he's a nice guy and a good coach, and he may just think he's not a good fit here.

Plus if Dom is gone but Casserly survives then Charlie will have input on the hiring process (I'm sure) and he won't want someone like Jimmy Johnson getting into a position that could lead to Casserly going out the door. The power struggle angle has to be considered.

My realistic choice for head coach is... I just don't know. I have some criteria at this point but no candidates. I know that if they pick a former NFL head coach I think the words "proven winner" need to be involved. A "proven loser" we already have. I also think that if they can't find someone who's done it and who they feel good about then I want them to disregard retreads and look to younger assistants around the league.

bckey
11-27-2005, 01:08 PM
Here are a few:

Gary Kubiak (Denver OC)
Cam Cameron (San Diego OC)
Jerry Gray (Buffalo DC)
Kirk Ferentz (Iowa)
Al Saunders (Kansas City OC)
Jimmy Johnson (broadcasting)
Pete Carroll (USC)
Jim Johnson (Philadelphia DC)
Monte Kiffin (Tampa Bay DC)
Jim Fassel (Baltimore OC)
Mike Singletary (San Francisco Asst HC)
Jeff Tedford (Cal)
Dick Lebeau (Pittsburgh DC)
Mark Richt (Georgia)
Frank Beamer (Virginia Tech)
Wade Phillips (San Diego DC)
Tom Moore (Indianapolis OC)
Bob Stoopes (Oklahoma)
Charlie Weis (Notre Dame)
Mike Zimmer (Dallas DC)
Greg Knapp (Atlanta OC)

HeartofHouston
11-27-2005, 01:42 PM
i would love to see Jimmy Johnson as our HC.. but lets be realistic it's not gonna happen.. JJ is living the sweet life right now.. he's one of the most respect figures in sports and he can just relax.. but if he does.. hey.. I'm all for it..

but I would love to see..

Tom Moore (OC - Indianapolis)
Jerry Gray (DC - Buffalo)
Monte Kiffin (DC - Tampa Bay)
Mike Zimmer (DC - Dallas)
Greg Kubiak (OC - Denver)
Al Saunders (OC - Kansas City)
Mike Singletary

CyberTexan
11-27-2005, 02:49 PM
I would like to see Jimmy Johnson but would settle for Wade Phillips

jacquescas
11-27-2005, 04:25 PM
how about an old faithful, lets bring Matt Stevens in to coach.:tomato:

gwallaia
11-27-2005, 04:44 PM
We might as well can the coaching staff today. What more can they do to drive this team into the ground.

gwallaia
11-27-2005, 04:49 PM
Surely this is the last straw for Capers and staff. I cannot possibly see them having a job tomorrow morning.

Wolf
11-27-2005, 04:49 PM
http://bigred2.athletics.cornell.edu/haw/Events/heimlich.htm


our new coach

texan61
11-27-2005, 04:53 PM
Maybe Mike Singletary can bring these guys to glory because he can't do any worse.

oldtexan
11-27-2005, 04:56 PM
I agree, If capers and the entire staff are not fired immediately, the owner is stupid. I think if I was the owner, I would fire the entire team, they all suck. They should all return their paychecks for the entire year, they sure do not deserve them. Noone but the Texans could loose a game like that. Sad, real Sad.

texan61
11-27-2005, 05:07 PM
What are any of your thoughts on Jerry Gray

V Man
11-27-2005, 05:10 PM
What are any of your thoughts on Jerry Gray


I like Gray, but I don't think they will go with another defensive minded coach after the lack luster performance of the offfense this season.

Goldeagle
11-27-2005, 05:13 PM
Ive been a fan of Gary Kubiak for quite a while. If he is good enough for John Elway to listen to.......

gwallaia
11-27-2005, 05:16 PM
"Obviously we're disappointed with the way the game turned out," head coach Dom Capers said. "We just did not execute at crunch time.

My God. Please fire Capers now.

NFLforher
11-27-2005, 05:25 PM
I like Gray, but I don't think they will go with another defensive minded coach after the lack luster performance of the offfense this season.



Pete!!!!

I don't think he'll come though.

angeltexus
11-27-2005, 05:32 PM
Anyone watching Fox this morining heard it. When asked to JJ who he taught would end up with the first pick (Reggie Bush) he replied Houston. When asked who would end up with Bush on their team he did not mention Houston. One has to wonder, if JJ comes to Houston he plans to not have Bush on this team and he did mention other teams trading to move up for Bush. I like the man already..

Goldeagle
11-27-2005, 05:34 PM
Im not sold on Reggie Bush, rather get an O-line and a TRUE ILB

FirstTexansFan
11-27-2005, 05:35 PM
So if I'm reading between the lines here correctly. What we're saying is, Bush may be worth alot of picks to us? Sounds very similar to a Hershel Walker trade to Minnesota trick to me <grin> Chant it with me...JIMMY! JIMMY! JIMMY! ;)

thetexanator
11-27-2005, 06:07 PM
Gary Kubiak with Mike Leach as O coordinator:yahoo:

Johnny Utah
11-27-2005, 06:12 PM
Anyone watching Fox this morining heard it. When asked to JJ who he taught would end up with the first pick (Reggie Bush) he replied Houston. When asked who would end up with Bush on their team he did not mention Houston. One has to wonder, if JJ comes to Houston he plans to not have Bush on this team and he did mention other teams trading to move up for Bush. I like the man already..

No doubt, if the Texans hire Jimmy Johnson he'll look to trade down and acquire extra picks. He has a history of doing this.

I'll be happy either way. We just need to end up with either the #1 or #2 overall. They both have value in trade downs.

HoustonFan
11-27-2005, 06:16 PM
"Obviously we're disappointed with the way the game turned out," head coach Dom Capers said. "We just did not execute at crunch time.

My God. Please fire Capers now.

Aaaaah yes. The infamous Dom Capers catch phrae.
How much longer can you stand to hear this on the radio, McNair???? Hopefully, you checkout this board and see that we are tired of it.

htsone
11-27-2005, 06:18 PM
Personally, I think Howdy frickin' Doody would be an improvement over the joker we currently have prancing the sidelines...

hts

Goldeagle
11-27-2005, 07:57 PM
Leech from Texas Tech would be a trip.

TexanFanInDenver
11-27-2005, 07:59 PM
Gary Kubiak with Mike Leach as O coordinator:yahoo:

Gary Kubiak, thats my vote

Kaiser Toro
11-27-2005, 08:00 PM
Someone with a Harvard degree. Seemed to work for the Rams today.

nunusguy
11-27-2005, 08:01 PM
Leech from Texas Tech would be a trip.
Now there's a refreshing idea, much better than hearing again and again from all these Cowboy worshipers chanting "we want JJ".

bigcarlos
11-27-2005, 08:13 PM
What are any of your thoughts on Jerry Gray
I remember Bo Jackson trying to take one to the house in Austin, and Jerry ran him down. Bo got hurt and dint come back for the rest of that game

HeartofHouston
11-27-2005, 08:16 PM
Head Coach - Gary Kubiak

Offensive Coach - I dont really care

Defensive Coach - Mike Singletary

Special Teams Coach can stay..

keyfro
11-27-2005, 08:20 PM
first...mike leach is staying at texas tech...second after what jimmy said at half time i believe he will be our next head coach...after his plea to sit david carr and andre johnson so they would have the number 1 pick in the draft...i think he'll come in and draft reggie bush

Marcus
11-27-2005, 08:21 PM
Here are a few:

Gary Kubiak (Denver OC)
Cam Cameron (San Diego OC)
Jerry Gray (Buffalo DC)
Kirk Ferentz (Iowa)
Al Saunders (Kansas City OC)
Jimmy Johnson (broadcasting)
Pete Carroll (USC)
Jim Johnson (Philadelphia DC)
Monte Kiffin (Tampa Bay DC)
Jim Fassel (Baltimore OC)
Mike Singletary (San Francisco Asst HC)
Jeff Tedford (Cal)
Dick Lebeau (Pittsburgh DC)
Mark Richt (Georgia)
Frank Beamer (Virginia Tech)
Wade Phillips (San Diego DC)
Tom Moore (Indianapolis OC)
Bob Stoopes (Oklahoma)
Charlie Weis (Notre Dame)
Mike Zimmer (Dallas DC)
Greg Knapp (Atlanta OC)

I like Ferentz myself. Here's his profile (http://hawkeyesports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ferentz_kirk00.html). He's an offensive line guru.

Los
11-27-2005, 09:48 PM
I think they should go after JJ and make him GM/HC. Give him full control of turning this team...

Bobo
11-27-2005, 09:54 PM
:texflag: Who should be our next head coach.Do yall think we have a chance at J.J.

Johnson would be a disaster. He failed in Miami and he would fail big-time here.

Bobo
11-27-2005, 09:54 PM
I think they should go after JJ and make him GM/HC. Give him full control of turning this team...

Then you'd see the NFL version of the Titanic. This franchise would immediately become the AFC version of the Arizona Cardinals.

Bobo
11-27-2005, 09:56 PM
first...mike leach is staying at texas tech...second after what jimmy said at half time i believe he will be our next head coach...after his plea to sit david carr and andre johnson so they would have the number 1 pick in the draft...i think he'll come in and draft reggie bush

Good grief, man! You have all these needs on both defense and the offensive line so you want someone to go ahead and draft the one position where you are decent? Unbelieveable.

Bobo
11-27-2005, 09:57 PM
JJ Hopefully but ill settle for Pete Carroll:texflag:

He had his run in the NFL and failed. He's a great college coach and that's where he belongs. If he comes to the NFL, he'll be another Butch Davis/Steve Spurrier.

Bobo
11-27-2005, 09:59 PM
I wouldn't mind Jeff Fisher if Bud decided that was enough of him.

If Capers did go, I wouldn't mind Fisher either. After all, choosing a new coach is always a crapshoot. I personally think they should keep Capers since even folks like Cowher and Schottenheimer had bad seasons. But if you must change coaches, it would be fun to see Fisher back on the Houston sidelines. I don't think he would necessarily make things any better than Capers, but it would be fun from a fan standpoint.

Bobo
11-27-2005, 10:02 PM
Here are a few:

Gary Kubiak (Denver OC)
Cam Cameron (San Diego OC)
Jerry Gray (Buffalo DC)
Kirk Ferentz (Iowa)
Al Saunders (Kansas City OC)
Jimmy Johnson (broadcasting)
Pete Carroll (USC)
Jim Johnson (Philadelphia DC)
Monte Kiffin (Tampa Bay DC)
Jim Fassel (Baltimore OC)
Mike Singletary (San Francisco Asst HC)
Jeff Tedford (Cal)
Dick Lebeau (Pittsburgh DC)
Mark Richt (Georgia)
Frank Beamer (Virginia Tech)
Wade Phillips (San Diego DC)
Tom Moore (Indianapolis OC)
Bob Stoopes (Oklahoma)
Charlie Weis (Notre Dame)
Mike Zimmer (Dallas DC)
Greg Knapp (Atlanta OC)

Weis has signed a 10-year contract with ND. Why we'd want Singletary here is beyond me. Of all these folks, I wouldn't mind seeing Wade Phillips or Fisher here. I don't necessarily believe either one would do better than Capers over a four-year span, but it would be fun to see either one on the Houston sidelines from a fan standpoint.

TEXANRED
11-27-2005, 10:02 PM
I can tell you who it's not going to be:
JJ
Jeff Fisher
Pete Carroll
I think we have a better chance at getting Joe Pa than any of these guys.

I am not a Jimmy Johnson fan by no means, but if he was asked to coach the Texans I think he would. Did you see him almost come out of his seat during the half time show squawking how the Texans where ruining there chances for Reggie Bush?

Bobo
11-27-2005, 10:04 PM
Surely this is the last straw for Capers and staff. I cannot possibly see them having a job tomorrow morning.

Well, try very hard because he'll finish out the season. There's no reason to get rid of anybody at this point since there's simply nothing to gain and you don't really know fully what your options are at this point.

Wolf
11-27-2005, 10:05 PM
watching the TB-chicago game because I couldn't get the Texan game on direct TV

take Monte Kiffen off the list too .. Fox was talking about him signing on for 2 more years

Bobo
11-27-2005, 10:05 PM
I am not a Jimmy Johnson fan by no means, but if he was asked to coach the Texans I think he would. Did you see him almost come out of his seat during the half time show squawking how the Texans where ruining there chances for Reggie Bush?

He's just making noise. If he had any brains, he'd know the smart move would be for the Texans to trade the pick and try to fill their myriad of problems -- especially when they have Davis.

Wolf
11-27-2005, 10:06 PM
Well, try very hard because he'll finish out the season. There's no reason to get rid of anybody at this point since there's simply nothing to gain and you don't really know fully what your options are at this point.

agreed
and I personally don't see anyone on the current staff that would be worth moving up.. It would be different if one of our coaches was making an impact or a young guy with some fire (I am saying this without reading the bios) ..but seems all aspects of the teams except maybe ST is hurting right now..

NFLforher
11-27-2005, 10:14 PM
He had his run in the NFL and failed. He's a great college coach and that's where he belongs. If he comes to the NFL, he'll be another Butch Davis/Steve Spurrier.



You should have heard all the whining and crying when he took over USC.

Wonder what those folks are saying now???


Pete has total control at USC. Look where it got him. I think he's going to stay there.

Hervoyel
11-27-2005, 10:20 PM
Good grief, man! You have all these needs on both defense and the offensive line so you want someone to go ahead and draft the one position where you are decent? Unbelieveable.


Honestly how many needs do we really have? I'll tell you what I think and that is our needs aren't nearly as many as it appears. More than anything we "need" guys to play up to their abilities. Giving these guys a gameplan they can execute and getting them prepared to play will do more than any one or 5 players.

Also how decent was Davis today? Did he move the chains when we needed to kill the clock? Did he get the hard yards when we needed another first down to keep a drive going? No he didn't. He had a pretty good day (receiving) and a very ordinary day running the ball. We could use an upgrade at RB too.

TEXANRED
11-27-2005, 10:36 PM
Honestly how many needs do we really have?

We need:
FS
SS
#2 CB
Dime CB
Nickle CB
ILB's
OLB's
NG or DT's
DE's
Defensive Coordinator
Linebacker coach
secondary coach
D-line coach
New assistance to the assistance coach
better parking
cheaper beer
That staples Easy Button
A reset button
A do over
A mulligan
sympathy

Kaiser Toro
11-27-2005, 10:39 PM
We need:
FS
SS
#2 CB
Dime CB
Nickle CB
ILB's
OLB's
NG or DT's
DE's
Defensive Coordinator
Linebacker coach
secondary coach
D-line coach
New assistance to the assistance coach
better parking
cheaper beer
That staples Easy Button
A reset button
A do over
A mulligan
sympathy

More Port-a-Potties next year.

Peldon
11-27-2005, 10:41 PM
We need:
FS
SS
#2 CB
Dime CB
Nickle CB
ILB's
OLB's
NG or DT's
DE's
Defensive Coordinator
Linebacker coach
secondary coach
D-line coach
New assistance to the assistance coach
better parking
cheaper beer
That staples Easy Button
A reset button
A do over
A mulligan
sympathy

Well how about a new car for every fan who had to watch the team this year?

Hervoyel
11-27-2005, 10:45 PM
Ok that made me laugh.

Seriously though you can do this with almost every "supposed" need we have with a few notable exceptions.

Do we need a RT? Lots of people say we need one on this board but is that true? Or do we really just need to get Todd Wade to play up to the level that was expected of him when he was signed as a free agent? He started 78 games for the Dolphins at RT so he it isn't like he's being asked to do something he's never done before.

Position by position you can do that and in a lot of positions we've got someone who should be playing better than they are right now. Sure we've got some real needs but it's not a case where our entire 53 man roster needs to be replaced with one or two exceptions.

Our coaching staff needs to go. That's going to do more good than adding any drafts worth of players no matter where you pick. Our problems are not a result of an overwhelming lack of talent.

Texans Horror
11-27-2005, 10:45 PM
Jimmy Johnson talks a lot about the Texans. I don't know if he likes watching a coaching staff fall to ruin or if he wants to be the next coach or what, but I have to admit that the guy talks a lot about the Texans.

Wolf
11-27-2005, 10:48 PM
Ok that made me laugh.

Seriously though you can do this with almost every "supposed" need we have with a few notable exceptions.

Do we need a RT? Lots of people say we need one on this board but is that true? Or do we really just need to get Todd Wade to play up to the level that was expected of him when he was signed as a free agent? He started 78 games for the Dolphins at RT so he it isn't like he's being asked to do something he's never done before.

Position by position you can do that and in a lot of positions we've got someone who should be playing better than they are right now. Sure we've got some real needs but it's not a case where our entire 53 man roster needs to be replaced with one or two exceptions.

Our coaching staff needs to go. That's going to do more good than adding any drafts worth of players no matter where you pick. Our problems are not a result of an overwhelming lack of talent.

I agree.. look at 2002.. very untalented team but if I recall.. we didn't get blown out in the am't of games that we are now.
and we have more talent across the board then we did then.. arguments could be made for shaper and glenn leaving compared to who we added, but we didn't have weigart or wade on the line in 2002..Pitts was rookie ... james allen.. hmmm

to me (and everyone else) players have just lost the confidence in our coaches. who blames them after 4 years of losing

Wolf
11-27-2005, 10:49 PM
Jimmy Johnson talks a lot about the Texans. I don't know if he likes watching a coaching staff fall to ruin or if he wants to be the next coach or what, but I have to admit that the guy talks a lot about the Texans.


I think it is because he is the only one :heh:
and fox was covering them today

Texans Horror
11-27-2005, 10:51 PM
Position by position you can do that and in a lot of positions we've got someone who should be playing better than they are right now. Sure we've got some real needs but it's not a case where our entire 53 man roster needs to be replaced with one or two exceptions.

Our coaching staff needs to go. That's going to do more good than adding any drafts worth of players no matter where you pick. Our problems are not a result of an overwhelming lack of talent.

It's the coaching. These guys have a lot of potential, but none of them are living up to it.

I think the best way to look at our position needs, IMO, is that the Texans can pick up 2 to 3 players this offseason who will make an impact. Anything else is for backup. JMO.

Wolf
11-27-2005, 10:53 PM
It's the coaching. These guys have a lot of potential, but none of them are living up to it.

I think the best way to look at our position needs, IMO, is that the Texans can pick up 2 to 3 players this offseason who will make an impact. Anything else is for backup. JMO.

If I had to think of 3 positions.. I'd say TE,#2 WR and Cb where we need another impact. (unless someone can get p-buch motivated, if so ..Center or LB)

bayshorebevo
11-27-2005, 10:56 PM
pete carroll - he's a college coach. he stunk as an nfl coach.

kubiak - has never been a head coach. he's had alot of interviews and nobody has wanted to hire him. why?

jj - talking head on tv. why would he give up his fishing to come here?

why not try a new guy? most decent guys already got jobs.

Wolf
11-27-2005, 11:04 PM
heck I'd settle for Coach Klein (henry Winkler) from the Waterboy
Bobby Boucher: So that's what opening up a can of whoop-*** feels like.
Coach Klein: Son, you just opened up a whole case of whoop-***.

www.imdb.com

Kaiser Toro
11-27-2005, 11:11 PM
heck I'd settle for Coach Klein (henry Winkler) from the Waterboy


www.imdb.com

Something's wrong with that boy's Medulla Oblungata

Honoring Earl 34
11-27-2005, 11:23 PM
:tv: Thats Mr. Coach Klein . Texans just visualize and tackle somebody .

CajunTexan
11-27-2005, 11:23 PM
pete carroll - he's a college coach. he stunk as an nfl coach.

kubiak - has never been a head coach. he's had alot of interviews and nobody has wanted to hire him. why?

jj - talking head on tv. why would he give up his fishing to come here?

why not try a new guy? most decent guys already got jobs.

The reason JJ would leave his nice desk job...? IMO, 2 words, Bill Parcells. Bill was a guy who won 2 super bowls, went to a third, got the cushy commentators job, then took the most unlikely of coaching positions, being the head coach for the other JJ. And, has turned the Cowboys into a legitimate NFC super bowl contender.

I think Jimmy has something to prove.

Nighthawk
11-27-2005, 11:40 PM
Johnson would be a disaster. He failed in Miami and he would fail big-time here.

We've already got the disaster times ten.

JJ would be a huge step up from here. Either as GM or GM/HC.

Dunta_23
11-27-2005, 11:51 PM
Greg Williams DC Redskins????

phan1
11-28-2005, 02:29 AM
I'd love to have Herman Edwards come in, but it looks like the Jets have every intention of keeping him. Fischer would be welcome too.

I think the majority of being a head coach is being able to point out what is going wrong in the organization and fixing it ASAP. Capers hasn't been able to do that. The decision to get rid of Palmer was a little too obvious, so he doesn't get credit for that. But things like putting Pitts at LT. He should have been there after the 2nd or 3rd game of the season. I don't know who to blame for that, but Capers should have been on it ASAP. Telling Pendry to stop letting Carr throw those hitches last week. Taking over the defense for Fangio. These are things he needs to but hasn't been able to. And yeah, the majority of these problems seem to stem from the assistant coaches, but as a head coach, you've got to see recognize that and fix it. He needs to tell Pendry "Put Pitts at LT", he needs to tell Fangio "You suck, I'm taking over your job now". There are just so many problems out there that Capers hasn't been able to fix.

abbest
11-29-2005, 10:31 AM
Weis has signed a 10-year contract with ND. Why we'd want Singletary here is beyond me. Of all these folks, I wouldn't mind seeing Wade Phillips or Fisher here. I don't necessarily believe either one would do better than Capers over a four-year span, but it would be fun to see either one on the Houston sidelines from a fan standpoint.You must not be from the USA. Mike Singletary , local standout at linebacker at every level. obviously you don`t know football. Why would we want retreads or also rans.Mike would make more sense than Fisher or Wade on intesity alone. You must have not seen his devastation on offenses as a player and leader on the field. If the Texans don`t take Mike now San Francisco will be the next defensive monster.

texplayer2
11-30-2005, 12:23 PM
Actually, the idea of a recent player/coach sounds like a good idea. Maybe our guys would identify with a hard nose, disciplinarian. But he better have been to a superbowl or two back in his days. We need a leader,who won't except losing, breaks a mike or to at a press conference, and dosen't just say we didn't execute.

mean mark8
11-30-2005, 01:23 PM
Mariucci is available. He did well with the 49ers even post Steve Young. I believe part of his failings with the Lions is due to their GM Millen. Of course he'd be going from his 3rd overall selection QB to the 1st plus it looks like he'd get the added bonus of the 1st overall this year as well. What I like is he has an overall winning record. If anything, do not hire another coach with a losing record.

SESupergenius
11-30-2005, 02:06 PM
I'd make Mooch an offensive coordinator or QB coach. We'd have a great west coast offense.

Kaiser Toro
11-30-2005, 02:27 PM
I'd make Mooch an offensive coordinator or QB coach. We'd have a great west coast offense.

You are talking crazy as I am agreeing with you too much lately. :)

I would not mind his as a QB coach. I have heard a couple of "insiders" discussing how his version of WC offense is outdated.

cadahnic
11-30-2005, 02:38 PM
Ok I am gonna go a little different from my usual Kubiak, B. Shottenheimer, Hoke, Marciano.

Kubiak, Dennison, Singletery, Marciano