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Texans Pride
12-04-2005, 01:11 PM
Yes


Peldon...you have to pick one!!!

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:11 PM
You mean he had time that time?
No, he had to elude a couple of Ravens by rolling out..
time, huh, what a noble concept

utahmark
12-04-2005, 01:11 PM
Now we know why Carr is never allowed to audible to a pass.

im pretty sure he was audibling to a pass earlier. thats twice today. were opening it up.

whatever it is.

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:11 PM
Probably sitting and watching seeing as he is on IR!! Weigert is the RT...
oh yeah.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:12 PM
all of these are on the line and backs as far as im concerned..

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:12 PM
They had like 8 people in pass protection.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:13 PM
DD is running well today

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:13 PM
Why did we ever stop running anyway.

Peldon
12-04-2005, 01:13 PM
Peldon...you have to pick one!!!

Three are on the line I would say, and then two on backs and Carr.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:13 PM
Carr audibling to a pass? what freedom!!!!

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:14 PM
as long as we get first downs.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:14 PM
great catch by Gaff, tigth coverage

utahmark
12-04-2005, 01:14 PM
Three are on the line I would say, and then two on backs and Carr.


the last one was on carr. he audibled to a play and didnt see an uncovered blitzer.

Ibar_Harry
12-04-2005, 01:15 PM
GameCast has Chad Stanly passing twice for Houston.......

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:15 PM
AJ was covered by SUggs... wtf?

Ibar_Harry
12-04-2005, 01:15 PM
GameCast has Chad Stanly passing twice for Houston.......

On this last series.................

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:15 PM
Good run again.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:15 PM
great run by DD, should have gotten hit in the backfield...

Texans Pride
12-04-2005, 01:16 PM
Thanks Peldon

Goon
12-04-2005, 01:16 PM
GameCast has Chad Stanly passing twice for Houston.......

What kind of yardage is he getting, perhaps we should give him a try. ;)

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:17 PM
Thats was very short.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:17 PM
whoo, should have been picked... it seems we dont try to take advantage of the D, Rolle was clearly playing AJ to the inside, the out was wide open...

Ibar_Harry
12-04-2005, 01:18 PM
What kind of yardage is he getting, perhaps we should give him a try. ;)

Actually he threw the completion to AJ.................

Runner
12-04-2005, 01:18 PM
Thats was very short.

He must be tired from all the passing.

utahmark
12-04-2005, 01:19 PM
whoo, should have been picked... it seems we dont try to take advantage of the D, Rolle was clearly playing AJ to the inside, the out was wide open...

everyone plays us for the short routes. we dont usually have time to run the long ones.

disaacks3
12-04-2005, 01:19 PM
The Ravens have Male cheerleaders too?

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:19 PM
Heap was open

Goon
12-04-2005, 01:20 PM
Actually he threw the completion to AJ.................

Sounds great! Put him in. :pigfly:

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:20 PM
we could never do that with our protection.
Run d looking much better

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:20 PM
Good run stuffing.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:21 PM
if we touched him, it was 4th down... our team just seems unprepared

Peldon
12-04-2005, 01:21 PM
Our defense even lets teams literally roll for yardage.

utahmark
12-04-2005, 01:21 PM
guy just watched him role for a first down.

disaacks3
12-04-2005, 01:21 PM
Nice pass coverage. Dunta should've touched him down.

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:21 PM
Great throw.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:22 PM
why is that not grounding? nobody home there...

Vinny
12-04-2005, 01:22 PM
why is that not grounding? nobody home there...it was a miscommunication. You have to be under pressure and obvioiusly throwing it away to be called grounding.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:23 PM
4th down? yes!!!

disaacks3
12-04-2005, 01:23 PM
No flag on G-Funk for same play as Peek. Reputation working against Antwan.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:23 PM
it was a miscommunication. You have to be under pressure and obvioiusly throwing it away to be called grounding.
That was bad!!!

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:23 PM
He lost yards, come on mathis.

Peldon
12-04-2005, 01:23 PM
Mathis just screwed up big time.

Vinny
12-04-2005, 01:23 PM
Well now we see why we didn't want Mathis on punt return duty till he was ready.

utahmark
12-04-2005, 01:23 PM
mathis speed cost him that time. rookie mistake.

texan279
12-04-2005, 01:24 PM
Is it bad that all I can do is laugh at this?

Goon
12-04-2005, 01:24 PM
Mathis, Mathis, Mathis <shaking head> :brickwall

Runner
12-04-2005, 01:24 PM
I DON'T want to see any Mathis Sucks threads this week.

Hervoyel
12-04-2005, 01:24 PM
Rookie mistake. Mathis is a dangerous rookie return man. Sometimes we forget that.

disaacks3
12-04-2005, 01:24 PM
Well now we see why we didn't want Mathis on punt return duty till he was ready. When will that be? :rolleyes:

texan279
12-04-2005, 01:25 PM
I DON'T want to see any Mathis Sucks threads this week.

There is probably one posted already...

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:25 PM
it was a miscommunication. You have to be under pressure and obvioiusly throwing it away to be called grounding.
Remeber the Jets game last year? Same thing happened to us and they called it grounding...
whats the bet Carr gets sacked?

Malloy
12-04-2005, 01:25 PM
Well now we see why we didn't want Mathis on punt return duty till he was ready.

exactly, leave him at kick-offs until he's cool enough to handle punts too. it's no biggie, he's a rookie and will eventually do punts fine too.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:25 PM
we have a TE? go figure

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:25 PM
We have a TE. Yes.

disaacks3
12-04-2005, 01:26 PM
OMG, a TE sighting for Houston!

Ibar_Harry
12-04-2005, 01:26 PM
At least Mathis tries to make something happen Vinny. That's more than a lot of players do........................

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:26 PM
lets see if we have a 2-minute drill in us..

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:27 PM
DD not a big play threat, right?

Peldon
12-04-2005, 01:27 PM
Great run by DD.

Hervoyel
12-04-2005, 01:27 PM
Wait a second, Marcellus Rivers just looked back over what was (according to edo) THE WRONG SHOULDER and yet, this time when the ball was placed in the correct location he made a reception (unlike Wells earlier) and gained yards.

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:27 PM
We dont need no stinkin Reggie Bush. DD is doin it big baby.:texflag:

disaacks3
12-04-2005, 01:27 PM
DD proving that RB isn't our greatest need in the draft...again.

Vinny
12-04-2005, 01:27 PM
At least Mathis tries to make something happen Vinny. That's more than a lot of players do........................You didn't even see the play Ibar the swami.... give me a break.

Malloy
12-04-2005, 01:27 PM
I hope we get Morency the ball a bit in the second half :I

gg no re
12-04-2005, 01:27 PM
Ironic timing?

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:28 PM
i think this game is proof as to why we draft D'Birck or Winston, not Bush. So far, the only offense we have is DD between the tackles, Bush would get nowhere

Runner
12-04-2005, 01:28 PM
Remeber the Jets game last year? Same thing happened to us and they called it grounding...
whats the bet Carr gets sacked?

That was a bad call last year. That sort of thing happens all the time.

Dime
12-04-2005, 01:28 PM
Wait a second, Marcellus Rivers just looked back over what was (according to edo) THE WRONG SHOULDER and yet, this time when the ball was placed in the correct location he made a reception (unlike Wells earlier) and gained yards.

I caught that too

TexasJedi
12-04-2005, 01:28 PM
DD not a big play threat, right?
but, but, Bush would have had a TD there. lol

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:28 PM
DD has 75 first half yards.

Ibar_Harry
12-04-2005, 01:28 PM
Hey gamecast has us ahead now. Ranvens only scored 1 point in the 2nd qtr... Actually we were ahead at 1 point 3 to -5 ... Hey, that's the truth...

edo783
12-04-2005, 01:28 PM
Wait a second, Marcellus Rivers just looked back over what was (according to edo) THE WRONG SHOULDER and yet, this time when the ball was placed in the correct location he made a reception (unlike Wells earlier) and gained yards.

Sill the wrong shoulder, but better adjustment and hands and the correct shoulder changes due to side of field. To the left it is then the right shoulder.

Runner
12-04-2005, 01:29 PM
lets see if we have a 2-minute drill in us..

We better - Riley will be exhausted soon so we need points now.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:29 PM
how are DD's numbers looking?

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:30 PM
i think this game is proof as to why we draft D'Birck or Winston, not Bush. So far, the only offense we have is DD between the tackles, Bush would get nowhere

Thats what Ive been saying, Bush isnt a consistent between the tackle runner. he needs space to make his cuts and jukes. He just doesnt have that demention yet.

Peldon
12-04-2005, 01:30 PM
how are DD's numbers looking?

11 rushes for 76 yards.

Hervoyel
12-04-2005, 01:30 PM
DD proving that RB isn't our greatest need in the draft...again.


Yes DD is a servicable back. He looked like he was running in mud though toward the end of that little 29 yard burst. A back from the next tier up changes everybodys angle of pursuit and takes that same play to the end zone.

That's just a fact man.

Dime
12-04-2005, 01:30 PM
Sill the wrong shoulder, but better adjustment and hands.

Rofl... then why did BOTH of them look over the Wrong shoulder... Maybe because it is drawn up that way?

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:30 PM
DD is lighting up the Ravens D, breaking tackles like a mad man

gg no re
12-04-2005, 01:30 PM
89 yards so far.

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:30 PM
Big run again. show 'em DD.

Runner
12-04-2005, 01:31 PM
This might be the best run blocking we've done this year.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:31 PM
Yes DD is a servicable back. He looked like he was running in mud though toward the end of that little 29 yard burst. A back from the next tier up changes everybodys angle of pursuit and takes that same play to the end zone.

That's just a fact man.
He was trying to juke Reed

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:31 PM
Gaff is playing well today.

Jerry
12-04-2005, 01:31 PM
Wow, if you told me a running back would be near 100 yards before halftime, I would have asked you how many touchdowns we were down by.

Go DD!

Napa Auto Parts
12-04-2005, 01:32 PM
the hell with the O-line And Running Back it looks like we need a QB than can win or at least play at the NFL level:texflag:

Runner
12-04-2005, 01:32 PM
Yes DD is a servicable back. He looked like he was running in mud though toward the end of that little 29 yard burst. A back from the next tier up changes everybodys angle of pursuit and takes that same play to the end zone.

That's just a fact man.

Except for say - Emmitt Smith

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:32 PM
I think that to fix our line, we are gona have to devote this draft to it, at least 3 picks, esspecialy at guard

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:33 PM
the hell with the O-line And Running Back it looks like we need a QB than can win or at least play at the NFL level:texflag:
We get it, you dont like Carr!!!
now please shut up

gg no re
12-04-2005, 01:33 PM
Except for say - Emmitt SmithAnd Curtis Martin and Edgerrin James.

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:34 PM
O-line penalties.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:34 PM
i thought something was missing, a penalty!!!

SmoochyTX
12-04-2005, 01:34 PM
the hell with the O-line And Running Back it looks like we need a QB than can win or at least play at the NFL level:texflag:
Not quite sure how you figure. Our O-line sucks big ones. It's no wonder Carr can't do much with the ball.

Jerry
12-04-2005, 01:34 PM
Who's starting on the line today? Pitts - Brown - McKinney - Weigert - Riley ??

Hervoyel
12-04-2005, 01:34 PM
Rofl... then why did BOTH of them look over the Wrong shoulder... Maybe because it is drawn up that way?


Yep, that's pretty much what I'm thinking. edo you may be right but you probably need to tell that to Pendry and not Wells or Rivers. This looks they're doing what they're supposed to do.

Maybe it's left over from Palmer? That's what Pendry will say if he's confronted with it I bet.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:35 PM
take a shot at the endzone, then a FG if it dosnt work

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:35 PM
One more shot at the end zone. Then we have to try for the FG.

False Start
12-04-2005, 01:35 PM
wow .........False start on #67!! thats a change:yahoo:

Ibar_Harry
12-04-2005, 01:35 PM
Play Armstrong some now that we are near the goal line......

Vinny
12-04-2005, 01:35 PM
brutal pass

Napa Auto Parts
12-04-2005, 01:36 PM
We get it, you dont like Carr!!!
now please shut up



on the contrary i like carr i think he brings alot of attention to breast cancer and has been a model citizen i just dont approve of his QB Play and i wont ask you to shut up that would be rude and classless:texflag:

Peldon
12-04-2005, 01:36 PM
One more shot at the end zone. Then we have to try for the FG.

Why would we want the lead, that's not Capers' style.

utahmark
12-04-2005, 01:36 PM
bad pass. he didnt give johnson a chance.

False Start
12-04-2005, 01:36 PM
Like Marcus Coleman that ball was high

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:36 PM
first really bad throw from Carr, gotta put it in a position to be caught, have to trust your reciver

disaacks3
12-04-2005, 01:37 PM
Yes DD is a servicable back. He looked like he was running in mud though toward the end of that little 29 yard burst. A back from the next tier up changes everybodys angle of pursuit and takes that same play to the end zone.

That's just a fact man. Nope, that there is an opinion, there aren't any guarantees vs. NFL-level defensive speed. Bush might have gotten more yds., but we'll never know.

I think Bush is the best player in this draft, but I still don't think we should get him. Trade down (gain picks) and fill MUCH more pressing needs.

Things like OL, TE, CB come to mind.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:38 PM
on the contrary i like carr i think he bring alot of attention to breast cancer and has been a model citizen i just dont approve of his QB Play and i wont ask you to shut up that would be rude and classless:texflag:
while consitently bashing a player obviously giving everything he has in terriblle working conditions is not clasless?

Runner
12-04-2005, 01:38 PM
Who's starting on the line today? Pitts - Brown - McKinney - Weigert - Riley ??

Riley - Wiegert

We like to switch our guards and tackles around to be innovative.

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 01:38 PM
DD has 95 yards, might have a chance to get his carrer high today.

Vinny
12-04-2005, 01:38 PM
The Mirror image QB comp halftime stats...

PASSING
CP/AT YDS TD INT
D. Carr 9/19 74 0 0


PASSING
CP/AT YDS TD INT
K. Boller 8/15 80 0 0

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:38 PM
we get the ball to start the second half

Malloy
12-04-2005, 01:38 PM
first really bad throw from Carr, gotta put it in a position to be caught, have to trust your reciver

clock was running out, he had to get rid of it fairly fast if we wanted time for the fg.

False Start
12-04-2005, 01:39 PM
Well this looked more like the team I've come to know this season so far in the first half . :texflag:

utahmark
12-04-2005, 01:39 PM
why upgrade one position a little. when we might have a chance to upgrade 2 or 3 positions significantly.

Napa Auto Parts
12-04-2005, 01:40 PM
while consitently bashing a player obviously giving everything he has in terriblle working conditions is not clasless?



it called criticism :rolleyes: and i feel your pain.

Vinny
12-04-2005, 01:40 PM
why upgrade one position a little. when we might have a chance to upgrade 2 or 3 positions significantly.That's what the Buc's said when they traded the rights to Earl Campbell.

utahmark
12-04-2005, 01:40 PM
The Mirror image QB comp halftime stats...

PASSING
CP/AT YDS TD INT
D. Carr 9/19 74 0 0


PASSING
CP/AT YDS TD INT
K. Boller 8/15 80 0 0

i would have to say baltimore is protecting their qb better than we are protecting ours.

utahmark
12-04-2005, 01:41 PM
That's what the Buc's said when they traded the rights to Earl Campbell.


good point!!!

Hervoyel
12-04-2005, 01:41 PM
Except for say - Emmitt Smith

I feel like those guys in the barber shop from "Coming To America" talking about boxing, except I'm talking about running backs.

"Oh there they go. There they go, every time I start talkin 'bout how slow Domanick Davis is, somebody got to pull Emmitt Smith out their.... That's their one, that's their one. Emmitt Smith. Emmitt Smith. Let me tell you something once and for all. Emmitt Smith was good, but compared to Reggie Smith's speed, Emmitt Smith ain't.... "

or something like that.

I've been watching Domanick Davis for three years just like you've been watching Domanick Davis for three years and let me assure you, Domanick Davis is no Emmitt Smith

edo783
12-04-2005, 01:41 PM
why upgrade one position a little. when we might have a chance to upgrade 2 or 3 positions significantly.

Exactly.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:41 PM
clock was running out, he had to get rid of it fairly fast if we wanted time for the fg.
7 seonds on the clock, obviously a sack must be in the back of his mind...

utahmark
12-04-2005, 01:41 PM
clock was running out, he had to get rid of it fairly fast if we wanted time for the fg.

there were 10 sec's left. it was just a bad pass.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 01:43 PM
I feel like those guys in the barber shop from "Coming To America" talking about boxing, except I'm talking about running backs.

"Oh there they go. There they go, every time I start talkin 'bout how slow Domanick Davis is, somebody got to pull Emmitt Smith out their.... That's their one, that's their one. Emmitt Smith. Emmitt Smith. Let me tell you something once and for all. Emmitt Smith was good, but compared to Reggie Smith's speed, Emmitt Smith ain't.... "

or something like that.

I've been watching Domanick Davis for three years just like you've been watching Domanick Davis for three years and let me assure you, Domanick Davis is no Emmitt Smith

Who is Emmitt Smith? Speed is not what makes a good Rb. Watch a USC games and the wholes made by their line, then watch what DD has to run through. That is why Reggie is not the best option for the Texans

Dime
12-04-2005, 01:43 PM
why upgrade one position a little. when we might have a chance to upgrade 2 or 3 positions significantly.

Best way to put it I have heard

gg no re
12-04-2005, 01:43 PM
That's what the Buc's said when they traded the rights to Earl Campbell.Herschel Walker to the Vikings for the win.

Runner
12-04-2005, 01:45 PM
I feel like those guys in the barber shop from "Coming To America" talking about boxing, except I'm talking about running backs.

"Oh there they go. There they go, every time I start talkin 'bout how slow Domanick Davis is, somebody got to pull Emmitt Smith out their.... That's their one, that's their one. Emmitt Smith. Emmitt Smith. Let me tell you something once and for all. Emmitt Smith was good, but compared to Reggie Smith's speed, Emmitt Smith ain't.... "

or something like that.

I've been watching Domanick Davis for three years just like you've been watching Domanick Davis for three years and let me assure you, Domanick Davis is no Emmitt Smith

I didn't say Davis was Emmitt Smith. I personally think that Wells should get more playing time because I think he is just as good as Davis. If you look at my posts the last few weeks I've been knocking our RBs and line for our barely averaging over 3 yards per running back carry. Carr's scrambles have been making our ypc look better than they are.

I'm just saying that not all successful running backs have break away speed. Sorry I presented an example of one.

Goon
12-04-2005, 01:46 PM
That's what the Buc's said when they traded the rights to Earl Campbell.

Yeah, 'cuz the Oilers won so many Superbowls with Earl....oh...

Runner
12-04-2005, 01:47 PM
p.s. I think Dorsett was the Cowboys best RB ever. He would have had 20K yards behind Smith's line.

Vinny
12-04-2005, 01:48 PM
Yeah, 'cuz the Oilers won so many Superbowls with Earl....oh...There was no single player that pushed us to back to back AFC title games vs the Steelers and give us some fantastic National attention. Without Earl we don't get to those games. I can have great memories of the 70's Oilers even without the SB's...and without Earl all I have are great runs by Lo White or Ronnie Coleman to sit back and ponder on.

Texans Pride
12-04-2005, 01:51 PM
So say we do have the #1 pick, and we decide to trade down..say five spots or so....What kind of picks could we get in return for that?

P.S. Can someone kook me up with a couple fo reputation points....I've been at 8 for months now!

Hervoyel
12-04-2005, 01:51 PM
Nope, that there is an opinion, there aren't any guarantees vs. NFL-level defensive speed. Bush might have gotten more yds., but we'll never know.

I think Bush is the best player in this draft, but I still don't think we should get him. Trade down (gain picks) and fill MUCH more pressing needs.

Things like OL, TE, CB come to mind.


No that is a fact. A running back who is faster than Domanick Davis and who is running faster than Domanick Davis did in that situation causes his pursuers to alter their angles of pursuit. That is an undeniable fact. If they want to catch him they have o change their angle.

Now yes, whether or not he scored is up for debate because I don't know how fast the players who had a chance to tackle him are. I'm sorry, I got ahead of myself there and tacked an opinion on the end of a fact. I should have ended that post with "and has a better chance of taking that same play to the end zone.

The first part and the meat of my post though, fact.

Look, I work with Elmo Wright. I spent a very long time talking with him in his office about Domanick Davis, and his speed, and what 40 times mean and, the relative advantages of speed versus quickness/elusiveness/agility whatever you want to call it, and why he's never going to be anything but a nice servicable back. I think Elmo knows what he's talking about.

Frankly anyone who thinks the RB position doesn't need to be upgraded gets very little respect from me. I just don't think they understand what they're looking at. Anyone who thinks that a top running back wouldn't make this line look better and contribute significantly to the amount of time David Carr has to throw gets very little respect from me. Again, I don't think they understand what they're looking at.

Domanick Davis is the Tim Smith (Houston Oilers, early 80's) of the Houston Texans.

utahmark
12-04-2005, 01:51 PM
p.s. I think Dorsett was the Cowboys best RB ever. He would have had 20K yards behind Smith's line.


there were a lot of backs better than smith imo.

TexasJedi
12-04-2005, 01:52 PM
Yeah, 'cuz the Oilers won so many Superbowls with Earl....oh...
And how many did the Bucs win with their extra picks back then ? If we trade for extra picks then we'd better hit on all of them. And if Casserly's still doing the picking...

Hervoyel
12-04-2005, 01:53 PM
I didn't say Davis was Emmitt Smith. I personally think that Wells should get more playing time because I think he is just as good as Davis. If you look at my posts the last few weeks I've been knocking our RBs and line for our barely averaging over 3 yards per running back carry. Carr's scrambles have been making our ypc look better than they are.

I'm just saying that not all successful running backs have break away speed. Sorry I presented an example of one.

I know man, I should have put some kind of "joking" comment in there. It just always reminds me of that conversation from that movie so I cut and pasted it into there and altered it to fit the Domanick Davis topic.

It was meant to be humerous. I missed the mark.

Peldon
12-04-2005, 01:55 PM
DD is over 100 yards for the day now.

Texans Pride
12-04-2005, 01:56 PM
So say we do have the #1 pick, and we decide to trade down..say five spots or so....What kind of picks could we get in return for that?

P.S. Can someone kook me up with a couple fo reputation points....I've been at 8 for months now!

Vinny
12-04-2005, 01:56 PM
If Carr makes a better throw that is a TD....Johnson had to slow down and nearly stop to catch that.

TexasJedi
12-04-2005, 01:56 PM
Right in his hands, but Rolle did a nice job of knocking it out.

edo783
12-04-2005, 01:56 PM
It's not that the RB spot couldn't be upgraded, it's that other spots are SOOO bad that they need it first in order for the ENTIRE team to improve.

utahmark
12-04-2005, 01:56 PM
nice pass py carr. better play by samarie.

Vinny
12-04-2005, 01:57 PM
Right in his hands, but Rolle did a nice job of knocking it out.AJ had to nearly stop running to catch that ball "right in his hands"

Runner
12-04-2005, 01:59 PM
I know man, I should have put some kind of "joking" comment in there. It just always reminds me of that conversation from that movie so I cut and pasted it into there and altered it to fit the Domanick Davis topic.

It was meant to be humerous. I missed the mark.

Cool. In fact I almost pointed out that we ran twice for 3 yards from around the 5 when we really needed 5-6 yards, and then I didn't after he broke that run.

TexasJedi
12-04-2005, 01:59 PM
AJ had to nearly stop running to catch that ball "right in his hands"
Well, I wasn't commenting on the throw, it was behind him. I was simply saying that the bal was in his hands and the defender made a nice play.

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 02:00 PM
CC put it on heap.

tulexan
12-04-2005, 02:01 PM
i think this game is proof as to why we draft D'Birck or Winston, not Bush. So far, the only offense we have is DD between the tackles, Bush would get nowhere


Davis is having a great game, and I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but on two of those long runs Reggie Bush would have had touchdowns.

Hervoyel
12-04-2005, 02:01 PM
It's not that the RB spot couldn't be upgraded, it's that other spots are SOOO bad that they need it first in order for the ENTIRE team to improve.

But are they really or are we just running the worst variation of the 3-4 in the NFL and are we trying to run an offense that our players are a terrible fit for because our offensive coordinator wanted to throw the ball and open it up but our head coach wanted to grind it out and run all day?

I think our staff sucks and our players are at worst average in most spots. Our offensive line is not as bad as it looks, of that I'm absolutely certain.

I take Bush but that's me and that's off topic so I'm going to shut up and go back to watching the game.

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 02:01 PM
good coverage

Goon
12-04-2005, 02:02 PM
There was no single player that pushed us to back to back AFC title games vs the Steelers and give us some fantastic National attention. Without Earl we don't get to those games. I can have great memories of the 70's Oilers even without the SB's...and without Earl all I have are great runs by Lo White or Ronnie Coleman to sit back and ponder on.

We had way more than Earl going for us those first few years of Earl's career. We had decent QBs, we had a line that didn't make me cringe (except when Carl Mauck tried to sing), and we had some good WRs. Heck, I even remember TEs from those days. Considering all that is wrong with the '05 Texans, I think we would be doing ourselves a disservice be simply getting another RB when we have so many other positions which are in far worse shape.

Texans Pride
12-04-2005, 02:02 PM
Hey you guys feel free to respond to this!!!!!


So say we do have the #1 pick, and we decide to trade down..say five spots or so....What kind of picks could we get in return for that?

P.S. Can someone kook me up with a couple fo reputation points....I've been at 8 for months now!

Dime
12-04-2005, 02:03 PM
Davis is having a great game, and I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but on two of those long runs Reggie Bush would have had touchdowns.

You dont know that. College football and NFL football are totally different. Yes, he will be good, but wait till he hits the NFL before you see what he can do.

Texans Pride
12-04-2005, 02:03 PM
Dang.....was there anyone we didn't send to rush the passer on that play!!!!

utahmark
12-04-2005, 02:03 PM
Davis is having a great game, and I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but on two of those long runs Reggie Bush would have had touchdowns.

hes not playing agains college players. those were not sure td's in the nfl.

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 02:03 PM
I would run the ball. O-line is doing a good job of pushing the LOS and DD is doing a good job toting the rock.

Vinny
12-04-2005, 02:05 PM
We had way more than Earl going for us those first few years of Earl's career. We had decent QBs, we had a line that didn't make me cringe (except when Carl Mauck tried to sing), and we had some good WRs. Heck, I even remember TEs from those days. Considering all that is wrong with the '05 Texans, I think we would be doing ourselves a disservice be simply getting another RB when we have so many other positions which are in far worse shape.We had a horrible line with super busts Mo Townes and Angelo Fields leading the way. The line didn't get upgraded until later drafting Muchack, Matthews, Steinkeuler and trading for Leon Grey. We had an old Ken Burrough, Johnnie Dirden, Mike Renfro and a slot guy in Billy Johnson as WR's on the team Earl came to. The pre Earl Oilers weren't much better than we are on offense. They had a decent defence though.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:06 PM
Davis is having a great game, and I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but on two of those long runs Reggie Bush would have had touchdowns.
If Bush hits those wholes. DD is a very patient runner, Bush is not
Nice grap by AJ

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 02:06 PM
I love AJ. He always brings it down.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:07 PM
gotta love them dump offs, work well on 1st and 10, not on 1st and 20

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:08 PM
does bradford ever make the same read as carr?

Dubya
12-04-2005, 02:08 PM
Where was that last pass to? Bradford ran the wrong route?

Dubya
12-04-2005, 02:09 PM
Why isn't Armstrong seeing more game time than Bradford?

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:09 PM
throw to armstong= compleation, repeat

gg no re
12-04-2005, 02:09 PM
WHO IS THIS DERRICK ARMSTRONG? HE SHOULD SEE PLAYING TIME./sarcasm

grandslam1
12-04-2005, 02:09 PM
nice job Armstrong!!!

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:10 PM
good idea, better coverage

would like to see that to Mathis

Peldon
12-04-2005, 02:10 PM
Funny how Bradford screws up and Armstrong makes the play.

edo783
12-04-2005, 02:10 PM
throw to armstong= compleation, repeat

Correct. Any Mathis as a WR sitings?

Runner
12-04-2005, 02:10 PM
Nice play with Armstrong.

utahmark
12-04-2005, 02:10 PM
We had a horrible line with super busts Mo Townes and Angelo Fields leading the way. The line didn't get upgraded until later drafting Muchack, Matthews, Steinkeuler and trading for Leon Grey. We had an old Ken Burrough, Johnnie Dirden, Mike Renfro and a slot guy in Billy Johnson as WR's on the team Earl came to. The pre Earl Oilers weren't much better than we are on offense. They had a decent defence though.

wasnt munchak, mathews, and steinkeuler after campbell left?

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:10 PM
DD got abot 4 more yds after contact. Dont think you get that from Bush

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 02:11 PM
DD and AJ are corner stones of this offense.

Dubya
12-04-2005, 02:11 PM
Sacked.

Peldon
12-04-2005, 02:11 PM
4 sacks by Suggs today.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:11 PM
damn, that was pretty bad, bulled rushed through 2 guys

Runner
12-04-2005, 02:12 PM
Riley wearing down in the second half? Go figure!

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:12 PM
flags down, hopefully on them

Dubya
12-04-2005, 02:12 PM
4 flags. Hopefully on BAL

Vinny
12-04-2005, 02:12 PM
wasnt munchak, mathews, and steinkeuler after campbell left?1st round picks in 82, 83, and 84. Earl came to us in 79.

Peldon
12-04-2005, 02:12 PM
There was a lot of yellow flying on that field.

Hervoyel
12-04-2005, 02:13 PM
Did you guys see Riley just standing there looking down at Suggs on Carr. He was like "Sorry George! Tell me about the Rabbits again!"

dat_boy_yec
12-04-2005, 02:13 PM
What happened to Pitts, I thought I saw him start at lt.

SoutheastTexanReporter
12-04-2005, 02:14 PM
Did Suggs not Hand to the head the QB? Our guys love tap Bowler and our guy gets facemasked/knocked on the crown of the head....I dunno....home cookin I guess...

Ooot.

utahmark
12-04-2005, 02:14 PM
1st round picks in 82, 83, and 84. Earl came to us in 79.


but our good years with earl was what 79, 80, 81. who was blocking for him then. were they any good? are was it just earl kind like barry did with detroit.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:14 PM
we need a turnover

Buffi2
12-04-2005, 02:15 PM
Just the mention of Riley's name makes me angry. I can't even watch him pretend to play. Of all the stupid moves we make, Riley is at the top.

Dubya
12-04-2005, 02:15 PM
Walker!

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:15 PM
glen earl, great play, penalty on g-funk.
Glenn just made another pick for Dallas

Goon
12-04-2005, 02:15 PM
1st round picks in 82, 83, and 84. Earl came to us in 79.

Earl arrived in '78.

Vinny
12-04-2005, 02:16 PM
but our good years with earl was what 79, 80, 81. who was blocking for him then. were they any good? are was it just earl kind like barry did with detroit.We had average to poor linemen....that's why we spent 1st round picks on Offensive linemen every year for years along with trading for Leon Grey.

Hervoyel
12-04-2005, 02:16 PM
but our good years with earl was what 79, 80, 81. who was blocking for him then. were they any good? are was it just earl kind like barry did with detroit.


78, 79, 80. Earl got here in 78.

disaacks3
12-04-2005, 02:16 PM
Look, I work with Elmo Wright. I spent a very long time talking with him in his office about Domanick Davis, and his speed, and what 40 times mean and, the relative advantages of speed versus quickness/elusiveness/agility whatever you want to call it, and why he's never going to be anything but a nice servicable back. I think Elmo knows what he's talking about.

Frankly anyone who thinks the RB position doesn't need to be upgraded gets very little respect from me. I just don't think they understand what they're looking at. Anyone who thinks that a top running back wouldn't make this line look better and contribute significantly to the amount of time David Carr has to throw gets very little respect from me. Again, I don't think they understand what they're looking at. Fine, that's your OPINION and you're entitled to it. Yes, angles of pursuit I agree with, the TD is in serious doubt.

IMHO, anyone who thinks that the RB position is even in our TOP THREE needs to fill in the offseason gets very little respect from me! Neener-neener! :neener:

Serously though, with this current cast of characters (coaches included), Reggie Bush would look (at BEST) only marginally better than DD.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:16 PM
great play by d-rob

Buffi2
12-04-2005, 02:16 PM
Glenn is having a good game today for Dallas.

Dubya
12-04-2005, 02:17 PM
Nice play by the D.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:17 PM
fumble, Peek got a sack, 4th down at the 1

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 02:17 PM
Get hype Peek, but not too hype no more penalties.

Dubya
12-04-2005, 02:18 PM
Wtf?!

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:18 PM
mathis fumbles punt, ravens ball

Peldon
12-04-2005, 02:18 PM
Mathis doesn't need to be returning punts, only kickoffs and receiving.

Jerry
12-04-2005, 02:18 PM
Woah! Peek with a nice play and not a penalty

TexasJedi
12-04-2005, 02:18 PM
It think the wind had something to do with that.

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 02:18 PM
We didnt even go after the block. Crap Mathis. He just isnt a punt returner.

Dubya
12-04-2005, 02:18 PM
Crap!

ensign_lee
12-04-2005, 02:19 PM
awwww......#&*^# :crying:

disaacks3
12-04-2005, 02:19 PM
&%$#@#$%$%#@$#$@#$!!!!! That one's ALL on Mathis. I love the dude on KR, but c'mon!

Hervoyel
12-04-2005, 02:19 PM
Fine, that's your OPINION and you're entitled to it. Yes, angles of pursuit I agree with, the TD is in serious doubt.

IMHO, anyone who thinks that the RB position is even in our TOP THREE needs to fill in the offseason gets very little respect from me! Neener-neener! :neener:

Serously though, with this current cast of characters (coaches included), Reggie Bush would look (at BEST) only marginally better than DD.

That's because you don't know what you're look at.

Dre_80
12-04-2005, 02:19 PM
jeroooooome!!! :crying:

ccdude730
12-04-2005, 02:19 PM
OH the preverbial "spin on the football" as an excuse as to why mathis dropped the rock

utahmark
12-04-2005, 02:19 PM
i dont mind letting mathis get some practice in at 1 and 10.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:19 PM
3yd loss, we look great today on D. If not for the Peek penalties, we would be pitching a shut-out

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 02:19 PM
Well at least we are making plays on defense. I hope Orr starts next year. He is really showing me stuff.

Dubya
12-04-2005, 02:20 PM
What a waste of a great defensive stand. Wtg Mathis.

Dime
12-04-2005, 02:20 PM
Folks.. That was a mathis fault, but not either.. He was afraid he was going to get plastered. He should have fair catched it.

mexican_texan
12-04-2005, 02:20 PM
Int! Int! Int!int!

Jerry
12-04-2005, 02:20 PM
Hmm..Who else do we have as a potential PR now that P-Buch is on IR? DD?

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:20 PM
2nd and 24, lets go D

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 02:20 PM
i dont mind letting mathis get some practice in at 1 and 10.

I wish. Why dotn tey put him in on offense.

Dubya
12-04-2005, 02:21 PM
We recovered! Our ball!

Peldon
12-04-2005, 02:21 PM
Houston recovers a fumble.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:21 PM
fumble! our ball! d-rob forced it

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 02:21 PM
We had to have it. It was 8 Texans and 1 Raven around that ball.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:21 PM
all part of the plan, we get the ball around their 25.

utahmark
12-04-2005, 02:22 PM
did you see that. the official was trying to recover the fumble to keep it away from us.

ccdude730
12-04-2005, 02:22 PM
this game is ugly and i cant even see it with my own 2 eyes!

come on

Jerry
12-04-2005, 02:22 PM
Gah! You guys must have a 3 minute lead on NFL gamecenter...

Nice play though, hopefully we can get the lead here.

Malloy
12-04-2005, 02:22 PM
yeah baby. mathis lost it, greenwood got it back!

I'm starting to miss p-buc on punts now.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:23 PM
glenn's pick completly changed the cowboys/giants game. Now 17-10 Giants and the Cowgilrs have the ball. It was 17-0.

Lucky
12-04-2005, 02:23 PM
IMHO, anyone who thinks that the RB position is even in our TOP THREE needs to fill in the offseason gets very little respect from me! Neener-neener! :neener:

Serously though, with this current cast of characters (coaches included), Reggie Bush would look (at BEST) only marginally better than DD.
You're right, RB isn't high on the list of priorities. However, Bush can play RB, WR, slot receiver, punt & kick returner. He's a weapon that defies a position. I think Davis could still be a factor on this team with Bush.

But you're right again, Bush in this offense with this staff would be like hanging a Picasso in your garage. The right offensive mind would need to be brought in to utilize a player like Bush fully.

disaacks3
12-04-2005, 02:23 PM
That's because you don't know what you're look at. Herv, give it up. If the Texans were one player away from being a good team, I'd be all over Bush, but they're not, period.

If we had even an "adequate" line, I'd love to see him become the second-coming of Barry Sanders, but that place isn't in Houston.

TexasJedi
12-04-2005, 02:23 PM
If we lose this game, I'll bet we hear something from G-Funk about the offense. Given last week's second half collapse by the defense, I don't think that would be wise.

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 02:23 PM
Hard running by DD.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:23 PM
DD for 3 yds, we are at the 26 yd line of Baltimore.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:24 PM
3 more yds for DD, not much room

Dubya
12-04-2005, 02:25 PM
first down, Davis.

Peldon
12-04-2005, 02:25 PM
First down DD.

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 02:25 PM
He put a move on Deon.

utahmark
12-04-2005, 02:25 PM
alot of nfl backs would not of made that catch and run for the first down.

Peldon
12-04-2005, 02:25 PM
Same play to Wells.

disaacks3
12-04-2005, 02:26 PM
DD doing it all today. I want to win this game badly, but I don't want to lose that #1 pick!

Dubya
12-04-2005, 02:26 PM
alot of nfl backs would not of made that catch and run for the first down.

Why is everybody dumping on Davis today? Are you guys trying to justify taking Bush in the draft or something?

HJam72
12-04-2005, 02:27 PM
Maybe DD's tired of hearing about Reggie Bush.

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:27 PM
nice run by David Carr, took out the camera man, first down

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 02:27 PM
Carr hit some guy hard.

Peldon
12-04-2005, 02:27 PM
Carr just took that cameraman out.

TexasJedi
12-04-2005, 02:27 PM
Where's our flag!!!

run-david-run
12-04-2005, 02:28 PM
carr almost stiff armed Deion...lol holding on us...

Runner
12-04-2005, 02:28 PM
Same play we get flagged on. Nice.

Dubya
12-04-2005, 02:28 PM
Another stupid penalty.

Lucky
12-04-2005, 02:28 PM
Sign that cameraman. He's shown the toughness to play QB for this team. :)

BuffSoldier
12-04-2005, 02:28 PM
We gotta pass the ball. They are stuffing the run now. They arent letting us run in the red zone.

Hervoyel
12-04-2005, 02:28 PM
We had average to poor linemen....that's why we spent 1st round picks on Offensive linemen every year for years along with trading for Leon Grey.


I put Leon Gray into the Bum era but the actual drafting of 1st round linemen was completely in the Ladd Herzog era. In Bum's day he tried band-aids to get Earl a better line. As you said he got Leon Gray via trade in 79 and he got Bob Young to play another year in 1980, his last full season and past his prime but still a good lineman. Band-aids, nothing more.

In 81 we didn't have a first round pick and Leon Gray played his last year here. Starting in 82 we began collecting incredible offensive linemen. Most of the line was still garbage though. Even Munchak was a rookie once.