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touttail
11-03-2005, 06:12 AM
The voting has started for Pro Bowl players. Yep we have a bad team but should have a couple go to the Pro Bowl, DRob for sure!

I was ticked off that Pbuc was listed as our kick returned and not Mathis.

bobby 119C

rmartin65
11-03-2005, 05:42 PM
Oh my god, I was so ticked. But the players can vote Mathis in as KR.

tiger06
11-03-2005, 10:00 PM
I voted for DD, D-Rob and wrote in Mathis.

eriadoc
11-03-2005, 10:24 PM
D-Rob, DD, Mathis, and Chad Stanley. Imagine if we traded punters with Cleveland :goodnight

MorKnolle
11-04-2005, 10:57 AM
I can honestly only vote for D-Rob and Mathis, and when I voted two weeks ago I didn't vote for Mathis because he hadn't turned it on like he has the last two weeks. I would love to vote for Davis, but there are too many other good RBs in the AFC with superior numbers (Edgerrin James and Willis McGahhe currently lead the NFL in yards and Tomlinson is 5th and all have many more TDs). Dunta definitely deserves to be there.

metalmike
11-04-2005, 05:54 PM
D-Rob for sure!!!
DD is great but is probably behind LT, Edge, McGahhee
Love to see Mathis in there.
That's about it.

rmartin65
11-04-2005, 06:03 PM
How do you right in players?

BuffSoldier
11-04-2005, 07:15 PM
What about ya boy Chris Brown?????

swtbound07
11-04-2005, 08:26 PM
d-rob
jerome...the rest need to be watching it at home, not in hawaii

HoustonFan
11-05-2005, 03:43 PM
Cosigning w/ the majority - D-Rob and Mathis.

phan1
11-06-2005, 04:17 PM
D-rob and that's about it. Mathis simply hasn't been on the field enough to warrant a probowl appearance yet. Hopefully he can stay healthy and help us win games.

Napa Auto Parts
11-06-2005, 04:21 PM
i voted for David Carr

MorKnolle
11-07-2005, 02:34 PM
I would like to see Mathis there but unless he really puts on some yards and TDs in the second half of the year he'll have a hard time beating out bigger names like Dante Hall, even if he puts up numbers that are superior.

MorKnolle
11-07-2005, 02:35 PM
i voted for David Carr

I'll hold off on Carr until 2007 when Andre, Mathis, and Gaffney propel Carr to a 4000 yard, 35 TD year under a new OC that wants to throw the ball.

Texas
11-07-2005, 02:57 PM
I voted D-Rob...Mathis definetly would deserve it if he saw more action but he just doesnt get the chance to see enough.

utahmark
11-07-2005, 08:47 PM
i honestly dont think anybody on this team deserves to go to the probowl. and i bet none of them do.

if i had to chose someone i would pick. d. davis.

Evans Fan
11-07-2005, 08:56 PM
The texans don't deserve to have anyone in the probowl not one person belongs and mathis don't even put him on the same plane as terance mcgee.... only mcgee and danta hall deserve votes for kickoff return cuz they are a notch above evry one else

kenneth24
11-07-2005, 09:00 PM
Are you kidding, by the end of the year Mathis will be the best returner...Look at all the experience he is getting with so many kickoff returns!:sarcasm:

Evans Fan
11-07-2005, 09:03 PM
compare his stats with mcgees than we will see

rmartin65
11-07-2005, 09:34 PM
Mathis is a better returner than the others. Does McGhee have a TD yet?

utahmark
11-07-2005, 10:48 PM
The texans don't deserve to have anyone in the probowl not one person belongs and mathis don't even put him on the same plane as terance mcgee.... only mcgee and danta hall deserve votes for kickoff return cuz they are a notch above evry one else

while your right that mathis doesnt deserve to be in the pro bowl.(hes only returned kickoffs in about 2 games due to inj). you might wanna watch the guy before you declare anyone a notch above him. he looked pretty good in our game against clev.

utahmark
11-07-2005, 10:57 PM
compare his stats with mcgees than we will see


they are pretty comparable.
mathis ave 30 yards per return with a td
mcgee ave 32 yards per return with no td

those are the top 2 in the league. next guy is at 28 yrds per return. danta hall is down the list a ways.

texan0305
11-08-2005, 02:13 AM
Chad Stanley should make the problem the guy can kick the heck out of the ball, maybe because i see him alot in the coarse of a game ive kinda fallin in love with his kickin style, the guy is a beast, he has such good technique and form, no other punter can match him, he should really be looked at as the AFC Punter in the problem hands down, he's like the payton manning of punters!



(plz take into account the bits of sarcasm...):homer:

TexanBearkat
11-08-2005, 01:45 PM
Stanley is really the only guy I can see making it to the Pro Bowl.

MorKnolle
11-08-2005, 05:27 PM
compare his stats with mcgees than we will see

Top 10 AFC Returners:
KR YDS AVG TD PR YDS AVG TD
Terrence McGee CB, BUF 20 639 32.0 0 0 0 0.0 0
Jerome Mathis WR, HOU 25 759 30.4 1 1 1 1.0 0
Justin Miller CB, NYJ 28 781 27.9 0 6 9 1.5 0
Darren Sproles RB, SDG 35 898 25.7 0 14 107 7.6 0
Chris Carr CB, OAK 36 902 25.1 0 21 121 5.8 0
Pacman Jones CB, TEN 18 448 24.9 0 8 77 9.6 0
Darrent Williams CB, DEN 12 298 24.8 0 13 83 6.4 0
Joshua Cribbs WR, CLE 16 394 24.6 1 1 5 5.0 0
Dante Hall WR, KC 34 835 24.6 1 21 149 7.1 0
Ellis Hobbs CB, NE 14 338 24.1 0 0 0 0.0 0

I definitely give Mathis the edge over McGee, Miller, Jones, Williams, Cribbs, and Hobbs. Sproles, Carr, and Hall can make a case since they have so many more yards and a decent amount of punt return yards too, but among those three Dante is the only one with a TD and all three have significantly lower averages, so I say it's a toss up between Mathis and Hall. Statistically I give the edge to Mathis but Hall has a prior reputation.

Sorry the format doesn't carry over well but if you can follow the stats here they are pretty clear, or go to:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=return&sort=avg&pos=off&league=afc&order=true&season=2&year=2005

texan0305
11-09-2005, 03:12 PM
Someone should post up stanleys stats in comparison to the rest of the league i'm sure he's definately ahead of the competition no one comes to my mind thats in the same league as stanley is in he's a shoe in for the pro bowl make us proud CHAD!!!

touttail
11-11-2005, 07:55 AM
Someone should post up stanleys stats in comparison to the rest of the league i'm sure he's definately ahead of the competition no one comes to my mind thats in the same league as stanley is in he's a shoe in for the pro bowl make us proud CHAD!!!

Stanley is an ACE for punting the ball inside the 20 yard line!

bobby 119C

Bobo
11-11-2005, 07:53 PM
The voting has started for Pro Bowl players. Yep we have a bad team but should have a couple go to the Pro Bowl, DRob for sure!

I was ticked off that Pbuc was listed as our kick returned and not Mathis.

bobby 119C

D-Rob isn't worthy of a Pro Bowl nod either. He's part of a defense that truly stinks this year and he sure hasn't set the world on fire.

Bobo
11-11-2005, 07:55 PM
D-Rob for sure!!!

Why? Because of what he did LAST year? If D-Rob was an All-Pro, the Texans would have more turnovers and wouldn't be 1-7. Nobody from the Texans deserves this distinction. Not a one.

rmartin65
11-11-2005, 08:05 PM
I said Mathis earlier, but he has to have one heck of a second half season with all his earlier injuries. He's like 4th in yards now.

texan0305
11-14-2005, 12:54 AM
too bad mathis cant say healthy that sucks........

TexanFanInCC
11-15-2005, 12:44 PM
The voting has started for Pro Bowl players. Yep we have a bad team but should have a couple go to the Pro Bowl, DRob for sure!

I was ticked off that Pbuc was listed as our kick returned and not Mathis.

bobby 119C

ehhh maybe next year...

i dont think anyone deserves to go this year to be honest. nobody has risen up,or else i could name em.

TexanFanInCC
11-15-2005, 12:45 PM
Stanley is an ACE for punting the ball inside the 20 yard line!

bobby 119C

yeah only because he gets alot of practice in the game. :brickwall

Hardcore Texan
11-16-2005, 01:58 PM
It is more of a popularity contest than anything anyway. But D-Rob is an emerging superstar. Evans Fan can stay on his own board and talk smack, or at least wait until your team is 500 for the season. You guys should be doing better also.

TEXANS84
11-16-2005, 02:02 PM
D-Rob isn't worthy of a Pro Bowl nod either. He's part of a defense that truly stinks this year and he sure hasn't set the world on fire.

Show me a defense that can't get to the opposing quarterback and you'll a secondary that can't cover.

swtbound07
11-16-2005, 04:41 PM
do they have probowl slots for coaches that look like gape mouthed fish?

TheOgre
11-16-2005, 04:52 PM
Evans_Fan's report card

Statistics A
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TexanFanInCC
11-17-2005, 01:07 PM
Show me a defense that can't get to the opposing quarterback and you'll a secondary that can't cover.

i can see the logic in this post. a lot of how the secondary performs is based on how good of a pass-rush u can muster. most big plays by the secondary are because the pass-rush 1)forces the opposing QB to hurry his throw, 2)throws off the timing of the QB 3)disrupts his train of thought. when u can do any of those, then the secondary's job is alot easier. thats why i feel like d-rob was snubbed for defensive rookie or year and a pro-bowl trip....because he managed 6 or 7 ints and 2 sacks, and the defense provided hardly any rush to the QB at all. he will shine once the pass-rush gets better, dont worry about him.

Vinny
12-01-2005, 04:47 PM
Look for Mathis to be added to the Pro Bowl ballot by tomorrow or the next day. The Texans had the league replace Buchannon with Mathis. It may be too late but we can make a push by voting for him.

rockabilly
12-01-2005, 05:28 PM
He needs to be in that Pro Bowl. He is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad to the bone.

eriadoc
12-01-2005, 05:51 PM
Can someone answer me if anybody else has 2 kick-off return for TDs?

No one. He's actually second in yardage as well. McGee has 22 returns for 695 yards, a 31.6 avg. Mathis has 36 for 1131, a 31.4 avg. McGee has zero TDs. Chris Carr for OAK has 50 returns for 1243 yds, a 24.9 average, with zero TDs. I think it's pretty clear that Mathis is the best kick returner this season. Hall has 45 returns for 1085 and 1 TD, with a 24.1 average.

gwallaia
12-01-2005, 05:53 PM
I suppose he and Chad Stanley are the only Texans that would have any sort of serious consideration for the Pro Bowl.

eriadoc
12-01-2005, 06:15 PM
Mthis is still not on the ballot -- 12/1/06

rmartin65
12-01-2005, 06:15 PM
He has to go.

eriadoc
12-01-2005, 06:17 PM
OK...next question. Who has returned at least one?

Winbush (JAX), Cribbs (CLE), Hall (KC) - in the AFC. Ponder, Robinson, Betts, and Johnson in the NFC.

Vinny
12-01-2005, 06:31 PM
Mthis is still not on the ballot -- 12/1/06I posted this today (http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showpost.php?p=214813&postcount=40). Tomorrow is still....tomorrow.

BigBull17
12-02-2005, 03:26 PM
Doesnt Mathis have 2 td's?

eriadoc
12-02-2005, 04:25 PM
Doesnt Mathis have 2 td's?

Yes. That's what we were saying up above. No one else does. He's second in return yardage and second in return average by 0.2 yards, behind someone with almost half as many yards.

TexansTrueFan
12-02-2005, 07:04 PM
The texans don't deserve to have anyone in the probowl not one person belongs and mathis don't even put him on the same plane as terance mcgee.... only mcgee and danta hall deserve votes for kickoff return cuz they are a notch above evry one else


keep the comedy for mad tv buddy have u seen mathis ???????

Jimpster
12-03-2005, 11:25 PM
DD? Come on, his avg is 3.8 yards per carry. That's not Pro Bowl stats. Jonathan Wells has a better average than DD. (7.0)

ccdude730
12-04-2005, 01:26 AM
DD? Come on, his avg is 3.8 yards per carry. That's not Pro Bowl stats. Jonathan Wells has a better average than DD. (7.0)
WHOA! wells average for this season is 4 not 7. only two tenths of a point difference

dom davis (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/395946)
wells (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/306289)

Jimpster
12-04-2005, 10:21 AM
WHOA! wells average for this season is 4 not 7. only two tenths of a point difference

dom davis (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/395946)
wells (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/306289)

Yeap, your right. I was comparing Well's receiving avg against DD's rushing avg. My mistake. But Well's rushing avg is still .2 yards more than DD's. Either way, these aren't the kind of avgs to get you into a Pro Bowl. As far as rushing leaders, DD is ranked 27th.

Mathis yes, DD no way. Draft Bush.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/sortableStats?div=NFL&stable=rushing&stat=rushAvg&dir=descending

phantom17
12-05-2005, 06:42 AM
J. Mathis has my vote! He has been our best draft pick this year! Sadly, our only one!:tomato: The other closes is probably C.C.!

BigBull17
12-05-2005, 09:22 AM
Yes. That's what we were saying up above. No one else does. He's second in return yardage and second in return average by 0.2 yards, behind someone with almost half as many yards.

I thought yall said he only had one my bad.

Bullpen Drew
12-05-2005, 09:57 AM
I will rescind my vote for "butterfingers"

Vinny
12-05-2005, 11:44 AM
well...something didn't go down like it was supposed to. The Texans contacted me to tell me to let you guys know that Mathis would replace Buchannon and would be on the ballot by the end of last week...but Buchannon is still there.

Ibar_Harry
12-06-2005, 03:56 PM
well...something didn't go down like it was supposed to. The Texans contacted me to tell me to let you guys know that Mathis would replace Buchannon and would be on the ballot by the end of last week...but Buchannon is still there.

Sounds like you got stood up Vinny. Guess Mathis must be in the dog house more than PBUC............................

Bobo
12-07-2005, 11:40 AM
The voting has started for Pro Bowl players. Yep we have a bad team but should have a couple go to the Pro Bowl, DRob for sure!

I was ticked off that Pbuc was listed as our kick returned and not Mathis.

bobby 119C

D-Rob has been part of one of the worst defenses in pro football. He certainly doesn't deserve a spot in the Pro Bowl. In fact, when your team is 1-11, I find it difficult to say that *anyone* is worthy of a Pro Bowl spot.