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HeartofHouston
10-19-2005, 01:13 PM
First off we send Dom Capers and Casserly a pink slip..

We hire Tom Moore or Monte Kiffin

After that we ditch the 3-4 and go to the 4-3

Trade from the 1st overall to the 8-10th Pick in the first round and pick up a extra 2nd rounder to somebody that will be looking to pick up Vince Young/ Matt Leinhart/Reggie Bush...

With the (let's just say) 9th pick we select a monster DE Kiwi or Mario should fit in here real good.

Then in the second round we take the best S available (Ball Hawk).

Then wit the other second Round we take the best Tackle available.

Then wit the 3rd rounder take a the best TE available.
(After Joppru Boselli'd us its time to move on)

4th Rounder we take the best LB available here.

5th - 7th Round (we take the best Lineman available)

-= FREE AGENCY =-

We take stabs at the best Offensive Line"MEN" (several) that we can, and also take a shot at a good LB and it really doesnt matter which position because Wong and Greenwood are versatile enough to switch from inside to outside and vice versa. If we pick up a good ILB in FA or in the Draft then it would look like..

Wong - FA/Rookie - Greenwood

or if we get a good OLB it could be..

FA/Rookie - Wong - Greenwood

But when it's all said and done it'll look roughly like this...

DE- Babin/Peek and Kiwi/Mario

DT- Johnson/Payne and Smith/Walker

OLB- Wong/Drafted LB or FA LB and Peek/Drafted LB or FA LB

MLB- Greenwood/Drafted LB or FA LB

CB- Robinson and Buchannon/Faggins

FS- Coleman/Drafted S

SS- Glenn/Drafted S

Now some people would be looking for another reciever to throw in the mix, but I think with Johnson, Gaffney and Mathis we have a 1-2-3 punch that people would kill for.. if we hire Tom Moore as our head coach then our offense "COULD" possibly become the next era of the Colts Offense. Think about it serious tho..

Domanick Davis = Edge James (Good Back, Good Hands out of the backfield)
Andre Johnson = Marvin Harrison (The Main Target, Homerun Threat)
Jabar Gaffney = Reggie Wayne (Not the Fastest, but reliable possesion receiver)
Jerome Mathis = Brandon Stokely (The Man in the slot that give D-Coordinators something to stay up later at night for)

If you look at it through Monte Kiffin's eyes, then

Kiwi/ Mario = Simeon Rice (The Monster Pass Rush that we need)
Johnson and Smith = Sapp and McFarland (The Push up the middle that will have QBs wetting themselves)
Greenwood = Derrick Brooks (Now! Dont get me wrong im not saying that Greenwood will compare to Derrick Brooks, but speed wise and with the right coaching and insipiration he could be to the Texans what Brooks is to the Bucs)
Robinson and Buchannon = Barber (Can we say perfect fit) and Kelly (Buchannon had a heavy dose of Zone coverage at the "U", and that's one of the things that made him a first rounder lets try putting him back in that element, while he may not rack up Kelly-esque tackles i believe he will pick off more passes in a system that he is more comfortable with)
Glenn = John Lynch (Hard Hitting Safety)

I honestly believe in Carr and I dont think that he is the problem at all I enjoy having him as the face of our franchise, think that its the coaching and coaching philosphies that are ruining our franchise. I said it this past off-season, with what the coaches are doing we are taking a step back and it's hindered our growth TREMEDOULOUSLY.. Its time for a change Bring in Moore or Kiffin...

Once again please give me a break this is just my personal opinion..

Texas_Thrill
10-19-2005, 01:23 PM
I dont particularly like your draft but I like your selection of possible coaches. Though I'd probably prefer the DC out of Philly.

Why is everyone convinced VY is coming out? I see no reason for him too. Now Bush/Leinhart yea there will be sweetstakes for those two.

Why would we waste a 2nd round pick on a S when we have Coleman and Brown. Not that I'm not saying coleman doesn't need to be replaced but not now and we have muuuuuch more pressing needs.

I would not at all be upset if our first 3 picks were lineman.

Our first pick either needs to be a lineman or bush. The fact that none of the LT's are coming across as franchise type makes me wane a bit but all of them are leaps above our current situation.

YoungTexanFan
10-19-2005, 02:30 PM
I dont agree with your draft idea.

We cant keep waiting untill the 3rd round or later to take a LT or any linemen. Guys that late rarely pan out and we dont have time to develop that late a pick.

The DE you want is available later....second round...like: dumerville and the one from virginia.

if you went lb in the second you would be lookng at hodge or the howard from UTEP.

rmartin65
10-19-2005, 02:58 PM
Trade down a couple a picks and get Dbrick. Then get Carpenter, Dumerville, a TE or the C from Minnesota.

tulexan
10-19-2005, 04:06 PM
I think if we have the #1 pick someone like Baltimore will be dying to get Leinart. We could probably trade our #1 for a #3 or 4 and get an extra second rounder and still get D'Brickinshaw Ferguson. If Tagliabue says "And with the x pick the Houston Texans pick..." and it's not a LT the draft is already a failure. We cannot continue to ignore our biggest whole and expect our team to do well. I don't care if it is the deepest draft for LT's in a long time. Get the best one and end it. Hell, get the best two and then we will have both tackles locked up.

After this season I want us to either have one of the better OL's in the league or one that is good but will become one of the better OL's because of youth and inexperience. Throw in a TE (hopefully a guy like Marcedes Lewis or Pope from Georgia) but any TE who can both catch and block. None of these receiving only or blocking only TE's because it gives away what we are doing. Add a good possession receiver or a speedster (maybe Skyler Green from LSU) to either open things up downfield for AJ or guarantee us those 8-10 yards. Also a few defensive players to make sure that the other team's offense isn't on the field all day. A few small additions will have big results for this team. We don't need a complete overhaul (except the OL) just a few more role players in various positions.

HeartofHouston
10-19-2005, 04:21 PM
Thanks guys for the feedback.. I also believe that Jim Johnson would be a good selection and even tho they arent having the best defensive season, the dc from the Panthers would be a good consideration..

Texas_Thrill
10-20-2005, 08:06 AM
i certainly don't wnat to see us draft a wr in this draft. we DON'T need one.

A. Johnson, J. Gaffney, and J Mathis will be just fine 1-3. Maybe some depth can be added but not until 4 round or later. :texflag:

WildBlackBear32
10-20-2005, 09:12 AM
The DE you want is available later....second round...like: dumerville and the one from virginia.

1. Dumerville is nowhere near the prospect Mario and Kiwi are. He's Dwight Freeney size without Freeney's speed and moves. Great college player, nothing more.

2. What DE from Virginia?? Canty??? He went last year to Dallas.

Coach C.
10-20-2005, 11:47 AM
I dont like either of your coaching choices seeing that they are both quite old. I like Kubiak at the helm personally, because he knows how to work with fringe talent.

Next in the draft I like the trade down if we are top 3, but if not then we just chill out and draft Eric Winston LT Miami who will be an opening day starter barring injury. We then use our second rounder on a LB or Pass Rush specialist.

Bubbajwp
10-20-2005, 11:55 AM
I dont agree with your draft idea.

We cant keep waiting untill the 3rd round or later to take a LT or any linemen. Guys that late rarely pan out and we dont have time to develop that late a pick.

The DE you want is available later....second round...like: dumerville and the one from virginia.

if you went lb in the second you would be lookng at hodge or the howard from UTEP.
I think his name is Daryl Trapp. He will go in the first round.
Hodge is also a first rounder.

Texas
10-20-2005, 02:03 PM
I agree with alot of it but I think 1st round we need to take bush or a LT. 2nd round another OL. 3rd round a Defensive play maker so on and so forth.

Texas_Thrill
10-20-2005, 02:40 PM
I agree at this point it needs to either be Bush or a LT. Somehow if Cass is still general manager i feel disappointment in my future. Oh wait I've already got that with this season.

tulexan
10-20-2005, 03:17 PM
I don't know why so many people here expect Bush to make our team so much better. We have a good RB with Domanick Davis and we don't need another shifty back. If you are going to have a 1-2 punch with RB's you get a shifty back and a power back. Fix the line and Davis will go from a 1000 yd 12 TD back to a 1400 yd 16 TD back. If we hire Kubiak, his numbers will go up even more. Draft and sign a few linemen and a TE and our offense will be golden.

beerlover
10-20-2005, 05:48 PM
I don't know why so many people here expect Bush to make our team so much better.

because maybe he is better than anyone we have? or he gives Carr another weapon to use complimenting both DD & AJ, or that DD has a track record of injurys & Reggie has proven ability to push his QB to score TD's :heh:

Coach C.
10-20-2005, 06:36 PM
I doubt we use bush in the backfield much if we did draft him. He is bigger and faster than Steve Smith the WR for Carolina and that is what we would use him for. AJ, Bush, Gaff, Mathis. This puts armstrong and Bradford as the odd men out, but who really cares about bradford anyway. Bush is a type of playmaker that could also line up in the backfield in a Westbrook type of way. If he goes to a team that has an established running back I doubt he sees very much work in the backfield.

YoungTexanFan
10-20-2005, 07:48 PM
I think his name is Daryl Trapp. He will go in the first round.

thank you, i couldnt think of his name off the top of my head. He should go late second to early third....maybe early second....but as of now he is being compared to freeny.

tulexan
10-20-2005, 10:23 PM
because maybe he is better than anyone we have? or he gives Carr another weapon to use complimenting both DD & AJ, or that DD has a track record of injurys & Reggie has proven ability to push his QB to score TD's :heh:

Yeah he has proven the ability to score in a weak Pac-10 conference. How many TD's did he have in the Orange Bowl last year against Oklahoma? That's right zero, and they aren't even close to any NFL defense. Put Bush in the SEC, Big 12, or Big 10 where he has to play against Texas, Tennessee, Georgia, Ohio State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, and other quality defenses and his numbers will look much more pedestrian. He did put up big numbers against Notre Dame but Notre Dame is far from a defensive powerhouse. USC has played against 1 team that ranks in the top 50 defenses in the country and that was Oregon who is ranked 47th. Reggie Bush is a great college running back. He is blessed to be on a team that has so many offensive weapons where they can't stack the line against him to stop him. Laurence Maroney and DeAngelo Williams have to face stacked lines and consistently put up monster numbers and have proven that they can carry a team by having 30 or 40 touches a game. I believe that Bush is too small and fragile to be a dominant back in the NFL and will probably end up being a better version of Warrick Dunn or Brian Westbrook. He will be a solid role player but not a dominant everydown back like Shaun Alexander, LaDanian Tomlinson, or Edgerrin James.

beerlover
10-20-2005, 11:19 PM
Yeah he has proven the ability to score in a weak Pac-10 conference. How many TD's did he have in the Orange Bowl last year against Oklahoma? That's right zero, and they aren't even close to any NFL defense. Put Bush in the SEC, Big 12, or Big 10 where he has to play against Texas, Tennessee, Georgia, Ohio State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, and other quality defenses and his numbers will look much more pedestrian. He did put up big numbers against Notre Dame but Notre Dame is far from a defensive powerhouse. USC has played against 1 team that ranks in the top 50 defenses in the country and that was Oregon who is ranked 47th. Reggie Bush is a great college running back. He is blessed to be on a team that has so many offensive weapons where they can't stack the line against him to stop him. Laurence Maroney and DeAngelo Williams have to face stacked lines and consistently put up monster numbers and have proven that they can carry a team by having 30 or 40 touches a game. I believe that Bush is too small and fragile to be a dominant back in the NFL and will probably end up being a better version of Warrick Dunn or Brian Westbrook. He will be a solid role player but not a dominant everydown back like Shaun Alexander, LaDanian Tomlinson, or Edgerrin James.

you guys are killing me with the comparitives "being a better version of Warrick Dunn or Brian Westbrook" but worse case scenero would that be all so bad? does Westbrook not make the Eagles go & that T.O. is just window dressing, diversion from the real meat and potato's. Westbrook was in fact the key to the Eagles rise in the NFC and appearence in the Superbowl. Warrick Dunn has had his success as well (actually ranked 5th in rushing yards in the NFL as I type with 577 yds. and a 5.2 yd per avg. second only to Alexander thanks to the Texans) good longevity, 9 years and counting, not bad for a too small & fragile rb.

this idea about lack of competition is your opinion and the fact teams don't try to stop him. you know why they don't becasue they can't.....thats the point & every weekend teams are playing their best games of the season to try and knock off #1. I wonder if you have ever been #1 at anything to even know what that feels like? give me a break, when his team needs him thats when he shines, he takes all that pressure and just performs, but after all he is just a football player :goodnight

tulexan
10-21-2005, 12:39 AM
First of all, I never said that he would be a bad player. I just said don't expect him to come to the NFL and be the next Barry Sanders. I believe that Westbrook and Dunn are very good players and that Bush will be a solid contributer to whatever team he is on. I was just saying that he is going to be a guy that needs to have that LenDale White on the team too. He needs the big bruiser who can run between the tackles just like Warrick Dunn needs to have TJ Duckett. Superstar runningbacks like Shaun Alexander, LaDanian Tomlinson, Edgerrin James, and the old Ricky Williams don't need that other back to be successful because they can run both inside and outside and be successful and if they have to they can carry the ball 30 or 40 times. That is all that I am trying to say. I'm not trying to bash him and say that he is a horrible running back because he isn't, he is far from it. I just think that Laurence Maroney or DeAngelo Williams will be better pro running backs because they too can carry the ball 30 or 40 times if they have to, and can run both inside and outside if they have to.

Second of all you are completely wrong about the level of competition too. There is a huge difference between Arizona playing their hardest against USC and Georgia playing their hardest against USC. Better schools have better players. Alabama is harder to beat than Hawaii. Ohio State is harder to beat than Stanford. Miami is harder to beat than Washington. If you have to play against tough competition every week there is a better chance that you will lose one of them. It is easy for a very good team like USC to roll over the Washingtons, Hawaiis, and Stanfords, because USC has some of top recruits in the country while these schools don't have players anywhere near that caliber.

Finally, I don't like to brag but I have been #1 in a few things during my life. I know what the pressure is like to stay at #1, but the pressure is much lower when you are playing against teams that struggle to beat average teams let alone an elite team like USC. USC would have a lot more pressure to stay at #1 if they had to play Auburn, Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee in one season. Or how about playing Boston College, Miami, Virginia, and Florida State? I admit that USC is an impressive team and deserves to be one of the top teams in the nation, but no one in their right mind could argue that their schedule is anywhere near as difficult as any SEC or ACC school.

Texas_Thrill
10-21-2005, 08:41 AM
Well if you dont like to brag why did you?

This argument about LEVEL of competition is TIRED.

If everyone listened to level of competition you would have never had players like.....

Jerry Rice, Walter Payton, Brian Urlacher, Doug William....so on and so forth. All argulably the best at their position at one time or another. One the best of all time regardless of position.

tulexan
10-21-2005, 09:03 AM
I think your right about that, I for one think that college means nothing when going to the pros because there are just as many big school prospects that are busts than there are small school prospects. The NFL is the great equilizer. It shows who is great and who was a product of the system in college. My school Tulane is far from a big school yet our last 3 quarterbacks have been drafted fairly early and our current one is better than all of them. That's more quarterbacks drafted early than almost all big schools.

But in college, which is what I was talking about, not the pros, there is a huge difference in the level of competition

BigBull17
10-26-2005, 08:21 AM
because maybe he is better than anyone we have? or he gives Carr another weapon to use complimenting both DD & AJ, or that DD has a track record of injurys & Reggie has proven ability to push his QB to score TD's :heh:
But another weapon he wont be able to check to cause hes getting creamed...

threetoedpete
10-26-2005, 09:15 PM
I dont particularly like your draft but I like your selection of possible coaches. Though I'd probably prefer the DC out of Philly.

Why is everyone convinced VY is coming out? I see no reason for him too. Now Bush/Leinhart yea there will be sweetstakes for those two.

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It was in the paper this morning, VY is staying. Expect a press conference sometime in January. I just hope there IS interest in Bush and Lion Heart. Lion Heart looks an awefull lot like Joey in Detroit. Long wind up, slow of foot to me. Multipulp picks would be sweet. End up with a LT and a nice TE . That would be nice. Never happen, the team will get on a run and win four or five.

CoastalTexan
10-26-2005, 10:41 PM
fire capers casserly and whoever else,
1. LT Debrick
2. G max jean giles, or TE
3. TE (guy from colorado???) or Center depending on what round you get the TE in
3. OLB or FS/SS whatever CC Brown cant play?
I'm not expecting any miracles so we prob wont be a playoff team next year, perhaps Brady Quinn with our first pick in 07? (wed have to suck again next year to get Quinn but we are the Worst team in the NFL as of now so its not too far of a reach)
What do yall think?

real
10-27-2005, 06:54 PM
The texans should trade their number one overall pick to the miami dolphins for ricky williams, chris chambers and their 1st round pick....texans pick up an OL in 1st round and dolphins get their quaterback from usc

Bubbajwp
10-28-2005, 07:27 AM
The texans should trade their number one overall pick to the miami dolphins for ricky williams, chris chambers and their 1st round pick....texans pick up an OL in 1st round and dolphins get their quaterback from usc
Why would we want Ricky Williams when we already have DD. Ricky Williams was a better RB than DD ever will be but he is no were near what he was. He is a has been.

I hope he proves me wrong

real
10-31-2005, 07:04 PM
I just don't think his offensive line is blocking for him

Joeymousepad
10-31-2005, 09:10 PM
People are always saying get rid of capers but,

I completely agree however I think that we should hire an ofensive minded coach *cough*Mike Martz*cough*, also does n-e-1 no what Charlie weiss' new contract means? Can we still buy it out for 1 mill.? And I think we trade down a few spots to get D-Brick and another 2nd rounder. Then take Max Gilles. This will be our left side for a long time.

tulexan
10-31-2005, 09:28 PM
Charlie Weis is not going anywhere. He loves Notre Dame and has said that he is not leaving until he sees his son graduate from Notre Dame. Right now his son is in 6th grade.

I do agree with taking Ferguson and Max Gilles. Max Gilles is awesome.

SESupergenius
11-01-2005, 01:34 AM
I'd like to take a stab at this.

Fire Casserly, bring in a stronger GM that knows how to value talent, not wheel and deal picks just to blow our chances with them anyways. Demand from Capers that our offense is to score a higher amount of points a game, bring in a good offensive thinking coordiantor, inject the west coast offense into our squad. Terry Shea- KC QB Coach is my pick, he's done well and has learned from super bowl coaches.

Free Agency
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Sign a veteran safety, TE, Tackle or WR

Draft
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Best availabe player at our needed positions. Since this is a deep draft for tackles, we should necessarily go for one in the 1st. Trade down if we can to get needed additional draft picks. for Gods sack don't trade those picks.