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yaboycm
10-09-2005, 10:28 AM
The 2005 Houston Texans are the worst team in this era of the NFL. Period.

Judging by the empty seats, the fans realize this and are tired of it. Will the owner realize it and make changes?

Texans Horror
10-09-2005, 10:34 AM
Empty seats say more to an owner than anything else.

Texans Pride
10-09-2005, 11:08 AM
Empty seats say more to an owner than anything else.


Then I hope that all get up and leave...

Wolf
10-09-2005, 11:31 AM
empty seats are partly Texans mostly and Astro's playoff game going on right now

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 11:33 AM
Then I hope that all get up and leave...

I didn't go today. Glad I didn't. Waste of my time; 2 hours drive time and 3 hour sleep show. I will go when the franchise shows motivation. This crap is pathetic. It is a waste of money though. Oh well, at least I'm not donating money for $7 pizzas on this "franchise." And I use the term "franchise" very loosely.

I'd rather stay at home and watch how a real Houston franchise operates on TV than go watch a team live that for the most part has no motivation!

CAN WE PLEASE GET RID OF CARR??? HE IS SO TERRIBLE AND HAS VERY LITTLE FOOTBALL SMARTS

Carr: Go to the chalboard and write "Throw the ball away" 1000 times.

After that, I want you to write "Throw to the receiver's hands" 500 times. Not 5 feet over his head.


Field goals are for p-----s!

JmikeT
10-09-2005, 11:48 AM
I'd rather stay at home and watch how a real Houston franchise operates on TV than go watch a team live that for the most part has no motivation!

Carr: Go to the chalboard and write "Throw the ball away" 1000 times.After that, I want you to write "Throw to the receiver's hands" 500 times. Not 5 feet over his head.

Field goals are for p-----s!

I am not sure what is going on with these guys but pathetic is the best place to start!
Another 2 minute drill of Monty Python caliber at the end of the 1st half...David running out of bounds and not throwing away the ball... 3 blitzes called that I saw...and still no turnovers...hmmm I am not going to say fire Capers (just suspend him for the next 12 games...), but a solution must be found

outofhnd
10-09-2005, 12:14 PM
Its not just a coaching problem. Its a personnel problem. We dont have the players at the lines. Its not a carr problem. Boomer is an ***** he doesnt even have time to throw it away. We need to revamp the line. period. there is no QB in the draft that will help this team win... get some protection. and the D-ine get some penetration.

DRIFTAWAY
10-09-2005, 12:16 PM
please send this team to L.A.

rmartin65
10-09-2005, 12:18 PM
please send this team to L.A.
L.A. Texans?

outofhnd
10-09-2005, 12:20 PM
If we send this team away then houston does not deserve a football team period. Its called be a fan and believe in the fact people get apid millions of dollars to make decisions that you paying very little criticize on a weekly basis. Part of this is just fate we lost Boselli before he ever played and it destroyed the line and we have never recovered.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 12:20 PM
Its not just a coaching problem. Its a personnel problem. We dont have the players at the lines. Its not a carr problem. Boomer is an ***** he doesnt even have time to throw it away. We need to revamp the line. period. there is no QB in the draft that will help this team win... get some protection. and the D-ine get some penetration.

Do you even watch the games? Even when Carr has time he can't make the throw or go through his progressions corrrectly. The last minutes of the game don't count either when it doesn't matter and the defense is in some form of a precent defense.

The players are not motivated the entire game. It's not a coaching problem though.

Stop being optimistic to nothing and realize that changes need to be made!

If we had a good GM, these changes that need to take place now would have already occurred!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

outofhnd
10-09-2005, 12:26 PM
Yea i do and I look and unlike you I look at them REALISTICALLY! There is no change in the world that can stop this... if there was then the Tampa Bay Bucs, Seahawks, Bengals and Cardinals would have all been winning organizations in the 90's which none of them were till like 97 it just takes time. Any changes made will doom, this franchise to even more losing seasons. yea make changes so that 5 years from now we finally have an above .500 season brilliant.

outofhnd
10-09-2005, 12:33 PM
The players are not motivated the entire game. It's not a coaching problem though.

Stop being optimistic to nothing and realize that changes need to be made!

If we had a good GM, these changes that need to take place now would have already occurred!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looking back really has any offensive linemen that has made an impact been readily available to us? Gallery in the draft, but the raiders have put him at RT which tells me he hasnt been that great. Besides the Pace teaser, no one really has been out there LJ shelton took the Browns offer. thats the only linemean prospects there has been.

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 12:35 PM
L.A. Texans?


L.A. Texans of Anaheim in the OC by way of Houston.

Hookem Horns
10-09-2005, 12:54 PM
I'd rather stay at home and watch how a real Houston franchise operates on TV than go watch a team live that for the most part has no motivation!

You're waiting to watch the Rockets? I didn't know they were playing yet.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 01:02 PM
Looking back really has any offensive linemen that has made an impact been readily available to us? Gallery in the draft, but the raiders have put him at RT which tells me he hasnt been that great. Besides the Pace teaser, no one really has been out there LJ shelton took the Browns offer. thats the only linemean prospects there has been.

It's called scouting and finding gems in late rounds.

Super Bowl teams like the Eagles and Patriots do this extremely well.

TitanPop
10-09-2005, 01:23 PM
You're waiting to watch the Rockets? I didn't know they were playing yet.

HH, I don't like to see what I'm reading here. Come on Texan fans, yes I called them the Texans and not the txeans, the Texans are in a slump right now but I don't see why y'all need to clean house. A few draft picks have gone awry, but if they draft a couple stud offensive linemen, protect David better, that alone could change the whole direction of the offense. The defense isn't that far away, but you fans CAN NOT quit. Joe Texan, Bull Pen Andy, Hookem Horns and all the rest of my friends down there, DON'T let this cancer continue. I look forward to y'all coming up to Nashville in December, winners or losers, it is all about the love of the game.

Keep y'all heads up, your team is STILL your team, don't even give them away.... L.A. that isn't even cool, that needs a dirty sock stuck in it.

run-david-run
10-09-2005, 01:25 PM
Do you even watch the games? Even when Carr has time he can't make the throw or go through his progressions corrrectly. The last minutes of the game don't count either when it doesn't matter and the defense is in some form of a precent defense.

The players are not motivated the entire game. It's not a coaching problem though.

Stop being optimistic to nothing and realize that changes need to be made!

If we had a good GM, these changes that need to take place now would have already occurred!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you ever seen a USC game? Have you seen how much time Lienart has in the pocket to let the routes develop? Have you seen how bad our line is? Now put those two together and you will have a bust bigger than Ryan Lief.

Elite
10-09-2005, 01:28 PM
Have you ever seen a USC game? Have you seen how much time Lienart has in the pocket to let the routes develop? Have you seen how bad our line is? Now put those two together and you will have a bust bigger than Ryan Lief.



im sure Carson palmer is going to be a bust also :hmmm: :rofl:

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 01:36 PM
im sure Carson palmer is going to be a bust also :hmmm: :rofl:

Do you even watch football?? Your sarcastic comments arent funny, relevant and most of the time, they don't even make sense. First, you compare USC's talent level to Fresno State's and Blame Carr for going there, dispite leading Fresno State to one of their best season's ever. Now you are making a comment about Carson Palmer which has no relevance to anything.

Elite
10-09-2005, 01:39 PM
Have you ever seen a USC game? Have you seen how much time Lienart has in the pocket to let the routes develop? Have you seen how bad our line is? Now put those two together and you will have a bust bigger than Ryan Lief.


this is to what i was replying to i remember seen carson palmer in college a great pocket passer alot of poise in the pocket like Matt LionHeart i just think Matt is better than Carson was in college and so on and so on you catch my drift

cuppacoffee
10-09-2005, 01:39 PM
If we send this team away then houston does not deserve a football team period. Its called be a fan and believe in the fact people get apid millions of dollars to make decisions that you paying very little criticize on a weekly basis. Part of this is just fate we lost Boselli before he ever played and it destroyed the line and we have never recovered.

You're kidding....right?

The fans who bought psl's and season tickets paid more than a "little".

You really believe this team is so sorry because Boselli never played for us? Amazing!

Most of the fans are disgusted with the people who do get paid millions of dollars to make decisions. :mad:

Houston deserves a football team. Houston does not deserve what we are getting in the Texan franchise. I was an Oiler fan from the very first game until the day they left. I saw some very sorry Oiler teams. Nothing I saw was as bad as what we are getting now.

cac: :coffee:

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 01:41 PM
im sure Carson palmer is going to be a bust also :hmmm: :rofl:

Thank you
I was going to say it myself


I think he is playing oaky this year. What is HIS team's record? Undefeated.

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 01:43 PM
Thank you
I was going to say it myself


I think he is playing oaky this year. What is HIS team's record? Undefeated.

Who is his coach? Does his coach allow him to use his arm? Do his 2 top 10 drafted tackles give him time to throw? Does his pro bowl calibre runningback take the heat off the passing game? Does Chad Johnson have some of the best hands in the league??? Does his defense force turnovers? Does his team get pressure on the QB? Answer all these questions for me.

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 01:45 PM
Palmer also has two healthy knees. The two players do not compare.

Not to mention Palmer had Fargas as his RB and not the 2 best in the nation that Leinart has. Or we could take into consideration the WR and TE talent Leinart has over Palmer. Leinart will put out better NUMBERS than Palmer, but Palmer was the far better prospect.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 01:45 PM
this is to what i was replying to i remember seen carson palmer in college a great pocket passer alot of poise in the pocket like Matt LionHeart i just think Matt is better than Carson was in college and so on and so on you catch my drift


Why is it so hard for some to understand?

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 01:47 PM
Why is it so hard for some to understand?

Because "some" of us can use our noodles better than others.

Elite
10-09-2005, 01:51 PM
i do read and listen but why do people refuse to accept a bust David Carr is a Bust O-line issues or not he was a number one pick he is our tim couch i know it hurts but we wont have him for ever thank god this is his last year. with the texans.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 01:55 PM
Not to mention Palmer had Fargas as his RB and not the 2 best in the nation that Leinart has. Or we could take into consideration the WR and TE talent Leinart has over Palmer. Leinart will put out better NUMBERS than Palmer, but Palmer was the far better prospect.

So McNabb isnt good because he has T.O., LJ, Westbrook, Brown, Lewis?

Manning no good. He has Harrison, James, Wayne.

Montana, Warner, Favre, they were no good in their prime because they had good targets.

Could it be that the quaterback actually makes these other players better?

No way. Get outta here.

Alvin Harper did MANY good things with Tampa after Dallas. Aikman didn't make him good at all. Much like Leinart makes his targets better because he, unlike Carr, can actually hit his targets in the hands.

So let me get this right, you don't think Leinart is any good because he has good players around him?

One last thing. WHAT HAS CARR WON?

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040102/040102_trojanswin_hmed_11a.hmedium.jpg

That's right Leinart. You've got two chapionships and are probably going to get your third. It would suck to have someone like that leading your team.

Dude, just stop talking. You are only http://chronicle.augusta.com/images/headlines/071198/water_digging_hole.jpg

Keep digging yourself that hole.

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 01:58 PM
So McNabb isnt good because he has T.O., LJ, Westbrook, Brown, Lewis?

Manning no good. He has Harrison, James, Wayne.

Montana, Warner, Favre, they were no good in their prime because they had good targets.

Could it be that the quaterback actually makes these other players better?

No way. Get outta here.

Alvin Harper did MANY good things with Tampa after Dallas. Aikman didn't make him good at all. Much like Leinart makes his targets better because he, unlike Carr, can actually hit his targets in the hands.

So let me get this right, you don't think Leinart is any good because he has good players around him?

One last thing. WHAT HAS CARR WON?

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040102/040102_trojanswin_hmed_11a.hmedium.jpg

That's right Leinart. You've got two chapionships and are probably going to get your third. It would suck to have someone like that leading your team.

Dude, just stop talking. You are only http://chronicle.augusta.com/images/headlines/071198/water_digging_hole.jpg

Keep digging yourself that hole.


Someone else comparing USC's talent level to Fresno State. You people are rocket scientists.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 01:59 PM
Palmer also has two healthy knees. The two players do not compare.


Mike Vick could get hurt anytime he takes off. You wouldn't want him.

Brett Favre was addicted to pain killers. He won a super bowl.

Don't give me that mess.

It's not like he's rolling around out there like a 40 year old Doug Flutie. He will be a top 5 pick. No one else seems to care about this because it isn't an issue.

Leinart is mobile anyway. Do you ever watch them. He gets out of the pocket, runs around, and actually throws it to a target.

Imagine having a quarterback who actually gets out of the pocket and THROWS the ball much like a quarterback should do, instead of run out of bounds.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:01 PM
Someone else comparing USC's talent level to Fresno State. You people are rocket scientists.

Not comparing talent you Ainge. Leinart is a proven winner. What has Carr won? Did Fresno win their conference at least?

rmartin65
10-09-2005, 02:02 PM
Leinart will be a decent qb. but put behind the Texans line, i can count maybe 3 people who would do better than carr, and leinart's not one of them

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 02:03 PM
Leinart is mobile anyway. Do you ever watch them. He gets out of the pocket, runs around, and actually throws it to a target.

Holy ****, you must be joking. He has 33 yards on the year on 19 carries. However, he has a long of twenty, which was a 3rd and long when the entire LB and DB core dropped back and Matt had a 6 man wall to run with. Removing that play brings you to, 13 yards on 18 carries. Yes, he's mobile.

rmartin65
10-09-2005, 02:04 PM
Holy ****, you must be joking. He has 33 yards on the year on 19 carries. However, he has a long of twenty, which was a 3rd and long when the entire LB and DB core dropped back and Matt had a 6 man wall to run with. Removing that play brings you to, 13 yards on 18 carries. Yes, he's mobile.
thank you

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 02:06 PM
Not comparing talent you Ainge. Leinart is a proven winner. What has Carr won? Did Fresno win their conference at least?

Oh man, you got me. I mean, look at all the National Titles and Conference Championships Tom Brady lead Michigan to. I bet that guy never makes it in the league.

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 02:09 PM
Not comparing talent you Ainge. Leinart is a proven winner. What has Carr won? Did Fresno win their conference at least?


Forgot to mention, Look out for Jason White next year. He's a total sleeper in the NFL.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:09 PM
Holy ****, you must be joking. He has 33 yards on the year on 19 carries. However, he has a long of twenty, which was a 3rd and long when the entire LB and DB core dropped back and Matt had a 6 man wall to run with. Removing that play brings you to, 13 yards on 18 carries. Yes, he's mobile.

You didn't understand what I wrote which was the following, "Leinart is mobile anyway. Do you ever watch them? He gets out of the pocket, runs around, and actually throws it to a target."

There is no mention of Leinart taking off with the ball. He is able to, let's try undertanding this again, "get out of the pocket, run around, and actually throw it to a target."

Okay, you can advance to high school.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:10 PM
You are kidding right? Leinart mobile? Anyone else agree? :rofl:

Watch some film

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 02:13 PM
You didn't understand what I wrote which was the following, "Leinart is mobile anyway. Do you ever watch them? He gets out of the pocket, runs around, and actually throws it to a target."

There is no mention of Leinart taking off with the ball. He is able to, let's try undertanding this again, "get out of the pocket, run around, and actually throw it to a target."

Okay, you can advance to high school.

http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showthread.php?t=12709

Read this thread over. The big boys with the common sense in the conversation will teach you a few things, I promise.

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 02:19 PM
Watch some film

Pop in the Oregon and ASU tapes. If you know a lick about football you will see the forest through the trees.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:21 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showthread.php?t=12709

Read this thread over. The big boys with the common sense in the conversation will teach you a few things, I promise.


Answer this.

Do you not see Carr make bad throws, not make the right reads, run out of bounds when he should throw it away (A junior high kid can be taught this)?

If you can't see this then I am wasting my time trying to explain something to someone who will never understand what I am trying to prove.

In Carr's 4 years here, he hasn't made the progress he should. These examples have nothing to do with the line. They have to do with Carr not being the answer for the Houston Texans.

We need a new quaterback. Leinart is great, a winner, and should be a Houston Texan in April when the Texans have the 1st pick in the draft.

This time we can draft a REAL quarterback with the #1 pick in the draft.
Hopefully, our new GM will realize this. Certainly the current one won't want to admit he screwed up so he will stick with Carr Wreck.

Hookem Horns
10-09-2005, 02:23 PM
HH, I don't like to see what I'm reading here. Come on Texan fans, yes I called them the Texans and not the txeans, the Texans are in a slump right now but I don't see why y'all need to clean house. A few draft picks have gone awry, but if they draft a couple stud offensive linemen, protect David better, that alone could change the whole direction of the offense. The defense isn't that far away, but you fans CAN NOT quit. Joe Texan, Bull Pen Andy, Hookem Horns and all the rest of my friends down there, DON'T let this cancer continue. I look forward to y'all coming up to Nashville in December, winners or losers, it is all about the love of the game.

Keep y'all heads up, your team is STILL your team, don't even give them away.... L.A. that isn't even cool, that needs a dirty sock stuck in it.

Hi Titan Pop, nice to see you btw. My post was actually a knock on the Astros not the Texans. :) If Houston fans want to say good things about any of their franchises it should be the Rockets. The Astros tend to win some but NEVER win IT. Besides I hate baseball, so I like to get my jabs in when I can.

As far as the "cancer" goes, that is the organization's doing not the fans. I doubt anyone you know is going to stop being fans of the team. Maybe all of this fan outcry will prod Mr. McNair to get rid of the *****s in charge (mainly Casserly), and put some people in place that will get everyone excited about the team right now.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:25 PM
I have watched film. Bledsoe does this sometimes too, but he is NOT mobile.

Exactly, he does this sometimes. Leinart does is consistently and doesn't get collapsed upon in the pocket.

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 02:26 PM
We need a new quaterback. Leinart is great, a winner, and should be a Houston Texan in April when the Texans have the 1st pick in the draft.

Let's go Jason White!!! The funniest thing is, Matt Leinart is closer to Jason White(bum knee, questionable arm strength, very accurate, smart, played on great teams) than he is Johnny Unitas like you make him out to be. Like I said, watch out for Jason White next year. All those small school QBs like Roethlisberger, Leftwich, Pennington, Favre, McNair and Culpepper are garbage. I mean, what did they win in college?

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:27 PM
Pop in the Oregon and ASU tapes. If you know a lick about football you will see the forest through the trees.

I saw him lead teams that were down 13-3 and 21-3 to victory

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 02:30 PM
I saw him lead teams that were down 13-3 and 21-3 to victory


With his sub- 60% completion percentage and 0 TDs in the ASU game? Oh what a difference a Reggie Bush would make.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:33 PM
Let's go Jason White!!! The funniest thing is, Matt Leinart is closer to Jason White(bum knee, questionable arm strength, very accurate, smart, played on great teams) than he is Johnny Unitas like you make him out to be. Like I said, watch out for Jason White next year. All those small school QBs like Roethlisberger, Leftwich, Pennington, Favre, McNair and Culpepper are garbage. I mean, what did they win in college?

HAHAHAHAHA

Actually these guys led their schools to some of the best season's in their school's history.

Marshall was a power house before Leftwich and Pennington showed up. Everybody was talking about Alkorn State before McNair got there. Winning it all helps. I.E. Chris Simms. Had the talent but can't win. Culpepper recruited by big schools in Florida but had issues.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:36 PM
With his sub- 60% completion percentage and 0 TDs in the ASU game? Oh what a difference a Reggie Bush would make.

No picks. A comeback. 1 Yard Run. I'll take that.

59%. Come on Ainge.


ASK OKLAHOMA

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 02:37 PM
HAHAHAHAHA

Actually these guys led their schools to some of the best season's in their school's history.


I take it you had no idea who Carr and Fresno State were during Carr's senior season. A season which Fresno was 11-3 and was hovering around the Top 10 until Game 7.

In case you missed it.

(2001) Started and played in all 14 games and was perhaps the nation’s best quarterback … had one of the most outstanding statistical seasons for a quarterback ever … became just the sixth quarterback in NCAA history to throw for 4,000 yards and 40 touchdowns. He had 4,839 passing yards and 46 touchdowns, both tops in the nation … exploded in the Silicon Valley Football Classic, completing 35-of-56 passes for a career-high 531 yards and four touchdowns … threw for at least 300 yards in 11 of 14 games, including 10 of the last 11 … finished third in the nation in completions with 343 … received numerous postseason awards, including Football News Offensive Player of the Year, Johnny Unitas Award, Sammy Baugh Award, WAC Offensive Player of the Year and first-team All-WAC … finished fifth in the voting for the Heisman Trophy … set Fresno State single-season records for passing yardage and touchdown passes … is the program’s career completion percentage leader (.626) … had three 400-yard passing games, including a 432-yard, six-touchdown performance in two-and-a-half quarters in the regular season finale against Utah State … was USA Today National Player of the Week after his 340-yard, four-touchdown performance in a victory against Oregon State … had a heroic effort in a victory against Colorado State, leading FS on a length-of-the-field drive with 27 seconds left in the game, which resulted in a game-tying field goal as time expired. The Bulldogs defeated CSU 25-22 … has been tabbed by ESPN’s Mel Kiper as one of the top quarterbacks to be taken in the upcoming NFL Draft … completed passes to 12 different Bulldogs, including 10 for touchdowns.

# Carr's 2001 Awards Johnny Unitas Award
# Football News Offensive Player of the Year
# Sammy Baugh Award
# WAC Offensive Player of the Year
# First-team All-WAC
# CNN/SI Honorable mention All-American
# Sixth player ever with at least 4,000 passing yards/40 TDs
# First in the nation in passing yards (4,308) and TDs (42)
# USA Today National Player of the Week (Oct. 3)

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 02:40 PM
No picks. A comeback. 1 Yard Run. I'll take that.

59%. Come on Ainge.


ASK OKLAHOMA

1 yard TD run! Oh man, the mobility! I must have missed that amazing "tuck and push" play!

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:40 PM
I take it you had no idea who Carr and Fresno State were during Carr's senior season. A season which Fresno was 11-3 and was hovering around the Top 10 until Game 7.

In case you missed it.

(2001) Started and played in all 14 games and was perhaps the nation’s best quarterback … had one of the most outstanding statistical seasons for a quarterback ever … became just the sixth quarterback in NCAA history to throw for 4,000 yards and 40 touchdowns. He had 4,839 passing yards and 46 touchdowns, both tops in the nation … exploded in the Silicon Valley Football Classic, completing 35-of-56 passes for a career-high 531 yards and four touchdowns … threw for at least 300 yards in 11 of 14 games, including 10 of the last 11 … finished third in the nation in completions with 343 … received numerous postseason awards, including Football News Offensive Player of the Year, Johnny Unitas Award, Sammy Baugh Award, WAC Offensive Player of the Year and first-team All-WAC … finished fifth in the voting for the Heisman Trophy … set Fresno State single-season records for passing yardage and touchdown passes … is the program’s career completion percentage leader (.626) … had three 400-yard passing games, including a 432-yard, six-touchdown performance in two-and-a-half quarters in the regular season finale against Utah State … was USA Today National Player of the Week after his 340-yard, four-touchdown performance in a victory against Oregon State … had a heroic effort in a victory against Colorado State, leading FS on a length-of-the-field drive with 27 seconds left in the game, which resulted in a game-tying field goal as time expired. The Bulldogs defeated CSU 25-22 … has been tabbed by ESPN’s Mel Kiper as one of the top quarterbacks to be taken in the upcoming NFL Draft … completed passes to 12 different Bulldogs, including 10 for touchdowns.

# Carr's 2001 Awards Johnny Unitas Award
# Football News Offensive Player of the Year
# Sammy Baugh Award
# WAC Offensive Player of the Year
# First-team All-WAC
# CNN/SI Honorable mention All-American
# Sixth player ever with at least 4,000 passing yards/40 TDs
# First in the nation in passing yards (4,308) and TDs (42)
# USA Today National Player of the Week (Oct. 3)


And he is garbage in the NFL.

What a shame


Leinart #1 on Mel Kiper's Big Board by the way

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:41 PM
1 yard TD run! Oh man, the mobility! I must have missed that amazing "tuck and push" play!


But you have nothing to say about the no picks and comeback

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:42 PM
Okay, somebody size up the straight jacket. EVERYBODY was talking about Alcorn (note the c) State BEFORE McNair? Who? When?

Marshall was a POWERHOUSE???? Once again, when?


It's called sarcasm wall.

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 02:42 PM
And he is garbage in the NFL.

What a shame


Leinart #1 on Mel Kiper's Big Board by the way

Aaron Rodgers ring a bell???

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:43 PM
That explains it. You and Mel on the same page. Next.

He has been with ESPN since the 80's. Must be doing something right. ESPN wouldn't employ an analyst spitting out garbage.

Elite
10-09-2005, 02:43 PM
Stop Blaming David Carr for everything its not his fault he cant play in the NFL it s not his fault he cant stay in the pocket its not his fault he played for fresno state and its not his fault he over throws recievers its not davids fault that he will always be a Fraud but to be honest with everyone im happy david carr is our starter he is only assuring the texans get the first overall pick and with that we get Matt LionHeart :texflag:

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 02:43 PM
But you have nothing to say about the no picks and comeback

I'm quite sure even YOU could hand the ball off to Bush and White and mount a comeback. I'm stretching it a bit, but I think it would be possible.

TitanPop
10-09-2005, 02:44 PM
Hi Titan Pop, nice to see you btw. My post was actually a knock on the Astros not the Texans. :) If Houston fans want to say good things about any of their franchises it should be the Rockets. The Astros tend to win some but NEVER win IT. Besides I hate baseball, so I like to get my jabs in when I can.

As far as the "cancer" goes, that is the organization's doing not the fans. I doubt anyone you know is going to stop being fans of the team. Maybe all of this fan outcry will prod Mr. McNair to get rid of the *****s in charge (mainly Casserly), and put some people in place that will get everyone excited about the team right now.

Hookem,
I understand that Yvette was down there for the game, did y'all "hook" up?

The G.M. down there has made some bone head trades, or at least that is what they look like now. They had a little article in the local rag, and how the trade has worked out great for the Titans, y'all know we got our T.E. Big Ben Trouuuuupe because of it? He looked very good out there today, and they also commented on many of the others in that deal and how NONE of the ones Houston got out of it are playing. Something not right with that picture.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:46 PM
Aaron Rodgers ring a bell???

He has played so much too. We have really seen what he can do.

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 02:47 PM
He has played so much too. We have really seen what he can do.

I was referring to your Mel Kiper reference. It's quite sad when you cant even connect the dots on your own comments.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:47 PM
Why not? Broadcast companies care nothing about accuracy and the truth anymore and this is no different with the sports networks. All they care about is "presentation". His "hair" is more important than what comes out of his mouth.

Credibility. Reputation. Respect. Interest. Accuracy. Reliability.


Enough words describing Mel's recruiting while at ESPN.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:49 PM
I was referring to your Mel Kiper reference. It's quite sad when you cant even connect the dots on your own comments.

I know what you are referring to. He dropped because teams didn't need a QB. That doesn't change the fact that we haven't seen him play and don't know what he will do in the pros. Sad when you come with junk like that.

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 02:54 PM
I know what you are referring to. He dropped because teams didn't need a QB. That doesn't change the fact that we haven't seen him play and don't know what he will do in the pros. Sad when you come with junk like that.

The teams didnt need a QB? Dallas didnt need a QB? Tampa didnt need a QB? Kansas City didnt need a QB? Oakland? From your constant whining, Houston?

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:55 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :brickwall

Yeah, your words.


And the Colts are still glad to this day they drafted Trev Alberts.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 02:58 PM
The teams didnt need a QB? Dallas didnt need a QB? Tampa didnt need a QB? Kansas City didnt need a QB? Oakland? From your constant whining, Houston?

All of those teams were obviously comfortable with their QB situation and didn't want to spend a 1st rounder on him. Looks like Spears and Ware were the smart picks. Philly thinks so.

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 03:01 PM
All of those teams were obviously comfortable with their QB situation and didn't want to spend a 1st rounder on him. Looks like Spears and Ware were the smart picks. Philly thinks so.

LMFAO! Yea, I bet KC is licking their chops for when Green goes down so they can hand the ball to TODD COLLINS. I'm sure Parcells knows he's got Pro Bowlers in Henson and Romo if Drew Bledsoe goes down, no worries there. Oh man, at least you have a future in comedy if you dont have a future anywhere else.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 03:06 PM
LMFAO! Yea, I bet KC is licking their chops for when Green goes down so they can hand the ball to TODD COLLINS. I'm sure Parcells knows he's got Pro Bowlers in Henson and Romo if Drew Bledsoe goes down, no worries there. Oh man, at least you have a future in comedy if you dont have a future anywhere else.


STOP!!!!!

I'm also sure that Parcells is glad he has a 3-4 defense that can actually get to the QB.

KC is probably pretty happy they have one of the fastest young LBs in the NFL.

Just STOP!!!!


What if
What if
What if
What if
What if

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 03:10 PM
STOP!!!!!

I'm also sure that Parcells is glad he has a 3-4 defense that can actually get to the QB.

KC is probably pretty happy they have one of the fastest young LBs in the NFL.

Just STOP!!!!


What if
What if
What if
What if
What if


You, my friend, are hilarious. I can only speak for myself, but I have had a good time laughing at you. I'm pretty sure GIT-R-DONE had quite a giggle at your expense as well, but I won't speak for him. I hope you bring comedy next week after Carr has another terrible 67% completion percentage day.

yaboycm
10-09-2005, 03:18 PM
I hope you bring comedy next week after Carr has another terrible 67% completion percentage day.


This is exactly what your problem is. You accept 67% and a 4th straight loss. You don't see the bad passes, the quick dump offs and quick outs that made up most of the completions, the running out of bounds. But you see that great completion percentage and say Carr is doing a good job.



WATCH THE GAME.

DON'T READ THE STATS AND TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED IN THE GAME.



I am done with you and this post.

WildBlackBear32
10-09-2005, 03:22 PM
Tip for posting on a message board: Bolding, Caps and random text and pictures dont make your point any more relevant than talking like an intelligent person. Then again saying Leinart is mobile, is the complete opposite of intelligent, so I shouldn't expect such from you though. Just a tip to take into consideration.

touttail
10-09-2005, 03:23 PM
My take is the team is
Just NOT putting out for this coaching staff. Besides a couple of players, Double D being one, they are just out on the field going through the motions.
I thought the desire came back at the Cincy game, but guess I was mistaken.

bobby 119C :embarrass

Runner
10-09-2005, 03:24 PM
Tip for posting on a message board: Bolding, Caps and random text and pictures dont make your point any more relevant than talking like an intelligent person. Then again saying Leinart is mobile, is the complete opposite of intelligent, so I shouldn't expect such from you though. Just a tip to take into consideration.

Heck, posting in giant letters means "not read" in my book.

Elite
10-09-2005, 03:25 PM
PASSING
CP/AT YDS TD INT
D. Carr 18/27 131 1 1


WoW WildBlackBear Why havent i seen this before this kind of numbers are hall of fame numbers :loser :rofl: and much more important there superbowl winning type of numbers but hell ill cut you slack with the stat wich mean nothing its about leading a team to victory something david hasnt been able to do. he is the field general right no not reallt he is just a joke.

rmartin65
10-09-2005, 03:25 PM
Heck, posting in giant letters means "not read" in my book.
same here

touttail
10-09-2005, 03:30 PM
Just what in the world could Leinhart do with the pathetic offensive line that we have??????????????? Unless they shore up the eOLine, you can forget it. They damn well know we have no downfield threat, so they just lay up and give us the 3-5 yard passes.


bobby 119C :brickwall

ndndixie
10-09-2005, 03:39 PM
HH, I don't like to see what I'm reading here. Come on Texan fans, yes I called them the Texans and not the txeans, the Texans are in a slump right now but I don't see why y'all need to clean house. A few draft picks have gone awry, but if they draft a couple stud offensive linemen, protect David better, that alone could change the whole direction of the offense. The defense isn't that far away, but you fans CAN NOT quit. Joe Texan, Bull Pen Andy, Hookem Horns and all the rest of my friends down there, DON'T let this cancer continue. I look forward to y'all coming up to Nashville in December, winners or losers, it is all about the love of the game.

Keep y'all heads up, your team is STILL your team, don't even give them away.... L.A. that isn't even cool, that needs a dirty sock stuck in it.
What Pops said! C'mon........are you football fans or what? We know all too well about a losing season but YOU have to be there or else the team gives up as well.

Bassinguy
10-09-2005, 04:07 PM
You're comparing college games to pro games. That's not a valid comparison at all.

FILO_girl
10-09-2005, 04:09 PM
I'm not giving up. Will be in my seat and tailgating with anticipation for the game on the 23rd. I will be IN Seattle to see the carnage, er...game on the 16th. Win or lose, stink or sweet, the crappy C's still in place...
I'll be there.
:texflag:

But for goodness sakes, please come to work boys!