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STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-01-2005, 12:02 PM
If the Ravens come out flat and play poorly like they did against the Titans, then there will be little else that Billick can do to motivate this team. He happens to be in that time frame (seven to 10 years) when a coach's message becomes stale, or he has to re-invent himself.

The early scuttlebutt around the NFL has Billick as a candidate for the Houston job if the Texans fire head coach Dom Capers at the end of the season.



http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bal-sp.preston01oct01,1,6044307.column?coll=bal-sports-headlines&ctrack=1&cset=true

Texas
10-01-2005, 12:02 PM
Can u post the info on here. I cant see it without registering and loggin in whih I dont wanna do.

Vinny
10-01-2005, 12:09 PM
http://www.bugmenot.com/view.php

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-01-2005, 12:11 PM
Thanks Vinny

Mr Shush
10-01-2005, 12:12 PM
Given that neither coach has been fired yet, this strikes me as a touch premature. I expect both teams to turn things around significantly, the Ravens to finish with a winning record and the Texans no worse than 6-10. Obviously 6-10 would not save Capers' job, but even so, hold your horses. "Early scuttlebutt around the NFL" is journalese for "I made this up but there's no way you can prove it".

Grid
10-01-2005, 04:26 PM
I think its just a rumor at this point.. matter of fact id put money on it being a rumor.



But, if that did happen..what would you think of it?

Billick as our head coach.. hmm. I dunno.. What have the Ravens done well while Billick was there? Defense.. and WHY did they do so well on defense? for the same reason that the Colts have done so well on offense.. they have a very talented player on the field telling everyone else what to do (Ray Lewis).

Take away Ray Lewis.. and I think the Ravens would have an above average (but not top 5) defense.. and the same below average offense they have now.

Therefore.. I would say that bringing in Billick would NOT be a significant upgrade over Capers.

But then.. perhaps Billick would provide more fire and determination.. No one can say the Ravens arent a very energetic and determined team (though that may be Lewis' doing again).. and if we gave Billick a very talented OC and DC.. it could make all the difference.

anyway.. as of right now, I am not excited about the prospect of getting Billick.

texan279
10-01-2005, 04:39 PM
Billick as our head coach.. hmm. I dunno.. What have the Ravens done well while Billick was there? Defense.. and WHY did they do so well on defense? for the same reason that the Colts have done so well on offense.. they have a very talented player on the field telling everyone else what to do (Ray Lewis).Take away Ray Lewis.. and I think the Ravens would have an above average (but not top 5) defense.. and the same below average offense they have now.


Don't forget about Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs, Chris McAlister, Will Demps and Samari Rolle...And don't forget, Billick won a Super Bowl in 2000, with Tony Banks as his QB...

belars44
10-01-2005, 04:41 PM
wrong thread

Lucky
10-01-2005, 04:44 PM
...And don't forget, Billick won a Super Bowl in 2000, with Tony Banks as his QB...
Dilfer was the starter for the 2nd half of the regular season & the playoffs.

texan279
10-01-2005, 04:46 PM
I just posted that because I forgot Banks played with the Ravens that year...either way I wouldn't mind having Billick here...maybe Capers could be his defensive coordinator... :pigfly: :tv:

Lucky
10-01-2005, 05:01 PM
...maybe Capers could be his defensive coordinator...
If Capers is fired, one of the major reasons will be his inability to build a effective defense here. If Billick is fired, it will be because of his inability to develop an effective offense in Baltimore. Can't see Billick as the answer.

ThaShark316
10-01-2005, 06:49 PM
Next Texans Coach if Capers gets fired = Gary Kubiak

Bubbajwp
10-01-2005, 07:30 PM
Next Texans Coach if Capers gets fired = Gary Kubiak
When capers gets fired not if.

touttail
10-01-2005, 07:37 PM
I would go with Gary Kubiak. Look what he has done with Denvers offense these past years.

bobby 119C :drool:

the wonger need food
10-01-2005, 07:59 PM
It's as simple as...

Anybody
But
Capers

texan279
10-01-2005, 08:10 PM
I would go with Gary Kubiak. Look what he has done with Denvers offense these past years.

Kubiak is my wife's cousin...I wouldn't mind seeing him here...maybe we could get Dave Wanstedt (sp?) as OC...I don't know though...There could be a few head coaches that lose jobs after this season continues the way it has been going...

texan279
10-02-2005, 12:16 AM
Dave Wanstedt as OC? That would be sweet, not. Considering he made his name as a DC.

Yeah my bad, I was still thinking of Kubiak. I meant to type DC...

Jophis
10-02-2005, 01:06 AM
As I'm a Bengal fan I don't have a dog in this fight but I like the Texans and I really, really hope that you don't hire Billick if Capers gets the axe. Ravens fans are calling for his head as I write this because their offense is a total wreck and the defense is showing signs of buckling under the stress of having to carry the whole team's burden year after year. The first thing everyone says is "he won the Superbowl" and that's true but that SB was won because of the defense which allowed the fewest points in a season in NFL history (coordinated by Marvin Lewis). Offensively, that team was just good enough. So since that SB team, Billick has let the offense go down the crapper each and every year while continually relying on his defense to win games. I hope you all take your time and find a great coach and not just somebody who has been thrown to the curb by another team.

Good luck tomorrow!

Who-Dey

texan279
10-02-2005, 01:10 AM
At least he put together a defense, we have neither really...

aphia1996
10-02-2005, 02:50 AM
I don't think it is a good idea to hire a coach that had one good season. Furthermore, the coach that lead his team is the coach we are facing this weekend. I think we need to get a coach and a GM that see football in a different way. I think Dom and Charlie have done what they can with the team and it is time for them to hand the ball off to some new young blood.

Russ Grimm would make a good Head Coach and is prepping for that position as Steelers asst. Head Coach and O~line coach.

Or maybe someone from the college level??? USC head coach seems to know what he is doing and did actaully a pretty good job while in the NFL. I would say his name but i had a hard enough time putting the letters u s c in because they keep saying they are the two time defending champ....get real! They only have one crystal football and who has the other...LSU BABY!!! I would have said Nick would make a great fit but he was taken this year....missed the boat on that one! He is a great coach and would have made Daunte, the shut down corner of the league!

Anyway, that is just how I feel about it.

What do you think?

Geaux Texans :texflag:

James H.
Houston, Texas

bckey
10-02-2005, 09:16 AM
I don't think it is a good idea to hire a coach that had one good season.


Sounds just like Dom Capers

ohwhyknott
10-02-2005, 09:24 AM
Sounds just like Dom Capers
Actually, with the job Marvin Lewis is doing in Cincinnatti, people are talking about how great he is. But trust me here guys, Coach Lewis will tell you himself, that Dom Capers is one of his top mentors. They worked together at Pukesburgh, & he has nothing but respect for the man! Everybody seems to want his head, But he can't put the pads on himself. He'll get you there!!! Just give him time.---WHO DEY!!! & enjoy the game!

bckey
10-02-2005, 10:20 AM
Actually, with the job Marvin Lewis is doing in Cincinnatti, people are talking about how great he is. But trust me here guys, Coach Lewis will tell you himself, that Dom Capers is one of his top mentors. They worked together at Pukesburgh, & he has nothing but respect for the man! Everybody seems to want his head, But he can't put the pads on himself. He'll get you there!!! Just give him time.---WHO DEY!!! & enjoy the game!


I don't buy it for a second. Lewis worked with Capers before he was a head coach so he is only speaking from that perspective. He is a guy that makes a good defensive cordinator but a terrible head coach. I have never liked Capers and certainly didn't want him to come to Houston and have stated so plenty of times. Not just now that they have lost 2 games and looked absolutely clueless.

texan279
10-02-2005, 10:31 AM
I don't buy it for a second. Lewis worked with Capers before he was a head coach so he is only speaking from that perspective. He is a guy that makes a good defensive cordinator but a terrible head coach. I have never liked Capers and certainly didn't want him to come to Houston and have stated so plenty of times. Not just now that they have lost 2 games and looked absolutely clueless.

Marvin Lewis was on the NFL Network the other day, and all he basically talked about was how much he respected Dom, how much he learned from Dom, and that without Dom he wouldn't be where he is today...

HardKnockTexan
10-02-2005, 12:12 PM
Just wondering... is Billick also the GM in Baltimore???

texan279
10-02-2005, 12:58 PM
Defense was already there, just became great but that was due to Marvin Lewis not Billick who is an offense guy.


No the defense wasn't already there, and the defense didn't become great until Billick got there Lewis was the DC from 96-01, Billick got there in 99...from Billick's profile...the 2000 Ravens' defense set the NFL's 16-game standard for fewest points (165). Prior to Billick's arrival in Baltimore in 1999, the Ravens' defense had been ranked no higher than 22nd in the league over the team's 1st 3 seasons. In each of Coach Billick's 1st 3 years as the Ravens' head coach, Baltimore's defense ranked 2nd in the league. In 2003 and 2004, the defense finished 3rd and 6th-best in the NFL, respectively.)

texan279
10-05-2005, 06:13 AM
So Lewis is there 3 years, defense never ranked higher than 22nd, Billick gets there and the defense sets a record for fewest points allowed in Billick's 1st season. Billick's 1st 3 years defense is ranked 2nd each year. Yeah Billick had nothing to do with that defense. Just because a coach is labeled an "offensive coach" doesn't mean he has no clue about defense...