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bengalhook
09-30-2005, 09:05 AM
With Pendry taking over and having two weeks to prepare, do you think your O will have a lot of new looks that the Bengals D hasn't seen on films? This makes me a little nervous as a Bengals fan. Though I don't know how substantially he could improve the O-line in two weeks. I'm new to the board. Thanks for having me. Here's to a great, safe game on Sunday.

CinciFan
09-30-2005, 09:07 AM
If you're having trouble with protecting the QB, get the ball out of his hands faster - slants, crossing routes, runs, and passes to RB are the calls to stock up on.

Exascor
09-30-2005, 09:12 AM
Welcome aboard! Nobody really knows what to expect. I'd think you could plan for a heavy serving of Davis and Morency sprinkled with a few tosses to Johnson. Palmer was oil to Capers water. Pendry is jelly to Capers peanut butter. They would be thrilled if Carr only throws 10-15 times. With the Bengals D only seeming to have one soft spot, the plan should fit right into what Pendry/Capers would look to do anyways. Run, run and run again.

bengalhook
09-30-2005, 09:46 AM
Welcome aboard! Nobody really knows what to expect. I'd think you could plan for a heavy serving of Davis and Morency sprinkled with a few tosses to Johnson. Palmer was oil to Capers water. Pendry is jelly to Capers peanut butter. They would be thrilled if Carr only throws 10-15 times. With the Bengals D only seeming to have one soft spot, the plan should fit right into what Pendry/Capers would look to do anyways. Run, run and run again.

Thanks. I hope the Bengals D-line tightens up soon. At least they aren't getting killed outside on the dump passes to backs and TEs like the last couple years.

Vinny
09-30-2005, 10:22 AM
Thanks. I hope the Bengals D-line tightens up soon. At least they aren't getting killed outside on the dump passes to backs and TEs like the last couple years.I think most of your problems was in your linebacker group and not your line. Odell Thurman has made a big impact so far....great pick.

touttail
09-30-2005, 11:02 AM
I think the Bengals D will see more dump offs to the RB and TE's.
Pendry goal is for Carr to git rid of the ball quicker and have a slow game controlling offense.

bobby 119C

HUGETexansfan
09-30-2005, 11:12 AM
I feel like the changes should be good ones. I am not sure exactly what to expect from Pendry, but it HAS to be better than Palmer. I have been saying since the second season that we needed to get rid of him. I am hoping that Carr perks up and that we can get him some massive coverage. Lets get this thing back on track!

:texflag:

BREAZE
09-30-2005, 11:24 AM
The formula to shut down our offense is really simple...blitz, blitz, and then blitz.

Getting rid of Palmer was certainly the right move, but I think Pendry is a band-aid and not the solution. Its amusing that some here think the former O-line coach is now going to have better blocking because he is the O-cord. This thinking just defies logic. I expect to see some mix up in play calling, but without a good O-line the results may be similar to the last 2 games and your guys should be in good shape.

I would love to be wrong... :texflag:

Reddevil63
09-30-2005, 11:27 AM
I think most of your problems was in your linebacker group and not your line. Odell Thurman has made a big impact so far....great pick.
Ya it must be great to have 2nd and 3rd round picks...

bengalhook
09-30-2005, 11:27 AM
I think most of your problems was in your linebacker group and not your line. Odell Thurman has made a big impact so far....great pick.

I agree. I was including the LBs in the D-line (Being lazy). Odell has made a humungous difference. And one of the reasons they drafted Pollack was his quickness to get outside and stop the outlets.

HUGETexansfan
09-30-2005, 11:38 AM
Sorry, new here guys. Yes, I do agree with the Defensive problem as well. Yes, we should have found another O-coord in the off season. Why they waited SO LONG I will never ever claim to understand. We have to just get our act together. I feel like we have gone back three years. Don't get me wrong. I will always be a HUGE fan and I will ALWAYS argue with my husband over the whole Texans/Cowboys thing. But we REALLY have to come back and be a TEAM.

Blake
09-30-2005, 11:50 AM
Ya it must be great to have 2nd and 3rd round picks...

my sentiment's exactly.

cincybearcattt
09-30-2005, 11:51 AM
With Pendry taking over and having two weeks to prepare, do you think your O will have a lot of new looks that the Bengals D hasn't seen on films? This makes me a little nervous as a Bengals fan. Though I don't know how substantially he could improve the O-line in two weeks. I'm new to the board. Thanks for having me. Here's to a great, safe game on Sunday.
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ohwhyknott
09-30-2005, 02:52 PM
Welcome aboard! Nobody really knows what to expect. I'd think you could plan for a heavy serving of Davis and Morency sprinkled with a few tosses to Johnson. Palmer was oil to Capers water. Pendry is jelly to Capers peanut butter. They would be thrilled if Carr only throws 10-15 times. With the Bengals D only seeming to have one soft spot, the plan should fit right into what Pendry/Capers would look to do anyways. Run, run and run again.
That's pretty good observing there, no doubt!!! In the last 2 years Cincy tried to sign at least 2 big name defensive tackles, Warren Sapp, & Corey Simon!!! Sapp?, well he's Sapp, not much to say there- (that you don't allready know) But look at the job the Colts are doing on defense!!! Makes me REALLY wish they could have gotten him into the system!!! The BENGALS could have been a lot tougher on thier run defense, & letting the D-linemen pin thier ears back & come at people a lot more!!! But we can't complain---We feel like Coach Lewis is going to show them the way to the promised land!!! With a strong crop of interior D-linemen available in the up-comming draft, I think everybody knows where they are probably going to go with the 1st pick!!! (I really wish they could get thier hands on A.J. Hawk, O.S.U.) but he'll probably be long gone by then, we're hopeful for a good season---sorry---NOT a jab---But I've had fun this week picking at y'all (y'all was K.Y.-not Texas-lol)---& we'll see ya Sunday!!! Bring your dancin' shoes, I'm sure Chad will!!! WHO DEY!!! :homer:

Lucky
09-30-2005, 03:01 PM
WHO DEY!!!
Off topic, but I don't believe it deserves it own thread...What's the story on why Bengals fans say Who Dey?

ohwhyknott
09-30-2005, 03:08 PM
I think most of your problems was in your linebacker group and not your line. Odell Thurman has made a big impact so far....great pick.
Ever since Takeo Spikes left, the LB's have needed help, when you lose a high 1st round pick & perenial all-pro lb.---It can't help but slow the building process!!!---I'm so anxious for David Pollack to begin to really shine!!!---He gets great push on the pass rush, & though it has'nt shone up on the stat sheet, He's caused a lot of linemen to fold & buckle into the qb, thus causing at least 3 of those picks. Check out #99 this Sunday. He didn't have much time in training camp (contract) but he's starting to show up!!!---I think you'll like him, He's a real bull (no pun intended)---Sorry, I keep forgeting stuff. This years other MAJOR steal was Chris Henry, He's like a gazelle with great hands! Did you see that catch against the Bears??? The guy looked like he was trying to twist his head off!!!---No call, but would have refused it anyway. That was a great catch!!! I believe he's why Peter Warrick was let go!!!(Warrick was 1st rounder) :bomb:

Double Barrel
09-30-2005, 03:17 PM
With Pendry taking over and having two weeks to prepare, do you think your O will have a lot of new looks that the Bengals D hasn't seen on films? This makes me a little nervous as a Bengals fan. Though I don't know how substantially he could improve the O-line in two weeks. I'm new to the board. Thanks for having me. Here's to a great, safe game on Sunday.

Welcome to the board, man. It's always a pleasure to talk football with fellow NFL fans. :)

I think you'll see a fired up team this week. If nothing else, the changes have definitely woke 'em up!

On offense, it'll probably be a pretty simple gameplan, as Pendry is committed to dictating his offense (as opposed to Palmer's philosophy of letting defenses dictate what kind of game we are going to call). You'll probably see some dudes get their butts chewed off on the sideline, too, as he's not shy about calling out players that make mistakes. The plays themselves...well, we're not sure what to expect, either, so it'll definitely be an interesting one to watch from that perspective.

On defense, I really expect to see some fire and aggression, and I'm hoping we see a lot more successful blitzes. There hasn't been any turnovers by our D, and they seem very soft on their coverage the first two games. I really hope this changes, as I know Chad Johnson will eat us alive if we give him anything soft.

ohwhyknott
09-30-2005, 03:18 PM
Off topic, but I don't believe it deserves it own thread...What's the story on why Bengals fans say Who Dey?
Who Dey started back in 81-82 for Super Bowl XVI---I know it's seems a bit strange, but some college kids from U.C. Bearcats allways went to the games in force. I believe they get the credit for it. Man that stadium would ROCK when they started into it!!! In th A.F.C. Championship game,It drove Dan Fouts, & the San Diego Chargers crazy!!! They had to keep asking the refs for quiet!! & the refs responded by telling Forrest Gregg they would pentalize us for it. So players, Coaches, & staff was waving thier arms for quiet!!!---GREAT TIMES!!!---I was there!!! :ok:Oh allmost forgot---65* below 0*-wind chill

ohwhyknott
09-30-2005, 03:51 PM
Off topic, but I don't believe it deserves it own thread...What's the story on why Bengals fans say Who Dey?
There was a line from the movie "Stir Crazy"---With Richard Pryor & Gene Wilder.----About a prison rodeo(held in Texas)---A fellow prisoner gave his opinion of a bull to Richard. He said---"A bull is like a train, except for one thing---a train won't back-up to finish the job!!!----LOL---Thought you Texans Fans would like that!!!---------(This was directed to LUCKY for the earlier post about bulls) :ok: :texflag:

Exascor
09-30-2005, 04:01 PM
There was a line from the movie "Stir Crazy"---With Richard Pryor & Gene Wilder.----About a prison rodeo(held in Texas)---A fellow prisoner gave his opinion of a bull to Richard. He said-- "A bull is like a train, except for one thing---a train won't back-up to finish the job!!! ---LOL---Thought you Texans Fans would like that!!!---------(This was directed to LUCKY for the earlier post about bulls)Hehe-nice. I expect that to be in someone's forum signature now. :dance:

ohwhyknott
09-30-2005, 04:31 PM
Sorry, new here guys. We have to just get our act together. I feel like we have gone back three years. I will always be a HUGE fan and I will ALWAYS argue with my husband over the whole Texans/Cowboys thing. But we REALLY have to come back and be a TEAM.
Sorry about butting in on something that was'nt my buisness, But if you don't mind an outsiders view, or opinion. I'm not saying anything in paticular about the Texans Organization. For a very young team,(in general) it takes time, in natural order to make you as competitive as you possibly can be, at that stage of your development. With that said, I'm a die-hard BENGALS fan! "We bleed orange & black" as we like to say, & of course I want my team to win every Sunday. Like the Stones said--"You can't allways get, what you want"---But I really do respect the city & good people of Houston, Tx.--------(I used to live there--2 hot) This machine you all have going down here is scary!!! I'm not just blowing smoke, It's not my place to sit here & tell you, oh you need "this", & "that"-(George Carlin) well ya gotta get the "other"--it's a set!!!---LOL---Seriously now folkes---sorry 'bout that---There's a lot of great peices to the puzzle, that have allready been found, & it won't be long---I believe!---I'm kind of an older guy, that remembers the first Super Bowl, & I realize I'm a little long winded, of sorts.----I've had fun talking with your fans this week! Thank You, Texans.com for letting me be a part of it. Have a great game Sunday---Wait!!!! What am I saying???---WHO DEY!!!---Ahh---That's more like it!!!----See Ya! :tomato: :tomato: :tomato:

Tedc
09-30-2005, 04:42 PM
Look for the Texans to utilize thier tight ends more. They need blocking and they have good blocking TEs. By doing so and using the TE for short passes, it will make the D stay in the middle and open the outside for Andre.

Defenses have been keying on Andre and DD, as well as blitzing on pass plays. This would be a way to beat thier blitz and make them pay, in essence, giving Carr more time and taking the double team off of Johnson.

ohwhyknott
09-30-2005, 04:49 PM
:ok: Hope you don't mind, dude but I happen to think you're right!---Utilizing the Tight End position is devastating to a defensive scheme,(especially a zone) They can pick that apart all day!
:ok:-----Oh Bengals here!--- :dancing: (Chad Johnson)---See ya Texans!!!---Back to Ohio!

SESupergenius
09-30-2005, 04:57 PM
:ok: Hope you don't mind, dude but I happen to think you're right!---Utilizing the Tight End position is devastating to a defensive scheme,(especially a zone) They can pick that apart all day! :ok:
M .Murphy is dinged up, that leaves us with old man Bruener, who isn't going to be stretching the field, and Rivers. Ewww I get all giddy thinking about the talent at the TE spot. :texflag: <-----that's a white flag mind you.

And seriously folks when people are saying our line sucks, it just doesn't mean 5 packs of meat on the offensive line, it includes our TE's, RB's and whoever else is in there block. Maybe the appropriate term is our "protection" stinks, or our "blocking" stinks.

Exascor
09-30-2005, 06:33 PM
M .Murphy is dinged up, that leaves us with old man Bruener, who isn't going to be stretching the field, and Rivers. Ewww I get all giddy thinking about the talent at the TE spot. :texflag: <-----that's a white flag mind you.

And seriously folks when people are saying our line sucks, it just doesn't mean 5 packs of meat on the offensive line, it includes our TE's, RB's and whoever else is in there block. Maybe the appropriate term is our "protection" stinks, or our "blocking" stinks.Yeah I doubt we effectively utilize the TEs this week. Murphy wasn't all that great for being the "best" we have and I just haven't seen enough of Rivers to know what style he brings. We can always dump to Davis though. heh

Tedc
09-30-2005, 07:10 PM
Yeah I doubt we effectively utilize the TEs this week. Murphy wasn't all that great for being the "best" we have and I just haven't seen enough of Rivers to know what style he brings. We can always dump to Davis though. heh

Old man Bruener is a good blocker.


Dumping to Davis when he is keyed on surprises nobody.

CinciFan
09-30-2005, 07:30 PM
Off topic, but I don't believe it deserves it own thread...What's the story on why Bengals fans say Who Dey?

Who Dey is originally from the New Orleans Saints, who used to say "Who Dat . . ".

The bengals' fight song is "Who Dey, Who Dey, Who Dey think gonna beat dem Bengals? Nooooboody!"

HJam72
09-30-2005, 08:53 PM
Murphy can't block. Our only healthy TE who can block is Bruener and he's no receiving threat.

BengalStripes
09-30-2005, 09:11 PM
Who Dey is originally from the New Orleans Saints, who used to say "Who Dat . . ".

The bengals' fight song is "Who Dey, Who Dey, Who Dey think gonna beat dem Bengals? Nooooboody!"

You couldn't be more wrong. Cincy was using "WHO DEY" years before the Saints started saying "Who Dat".

We were yelling the WHO DEY chant in November of 1981.

Saints didn't start chirping out WHO DAT until 1983. Then it went away for awhile, but it resurfaced in 1987 during their playoff run. The Saints WHO DAT got some publicity because they were in the playoffs and the Bengals made their Super Bowl run in 1988 - so everyone thought the WHO DEY chant they were hearing from Bengals fans in 1988 was copied from the Saints from 1987 - but that wasn't so. It never left Bengals' fans mouths from 1981.

Actually, it is very probable that the Bengals started it in 1981, then LSU changed it to WHO DAT during their Orange Bowl run in 1982. Then the Saints adopted it as their battle cry.

Make no mistake - WHO DEY is a Cincy chant - and a Cincy chant alone. As ignorant as "WHO DEY" might sound - it's ours and ours alone. :)

BengalStripes
09-30-2005, 09:22 PM
expect for the bengals to get alot of interceptions and sacks :bomb:

We could use some sacks. We've been having trouble getting to the QB so far this season. :brickwall

HomeBred_Texan
09-30-2005, 09:32 PM
I see it as DD left, DD right, DD up the middle and punt. A simple game plan from a simple coach

throwANDREtheBALL
09-30-2005, 10:32 PM
Unfortunately I see it as another poor outing for our offense. Great day stat padding day for the Bengals Defense. And another week of reading "TEXANS SUCK" messages on this board.

If ever there was a time that I didn't want to be right, its right now.



:texflag:

Prove me wrong boys, prove me wrong.

CinciFan
09-30-2005, 10:57 PM
You couldn't be more wrong. Cincy was using "WHO DEY" years before the Saints started saying "Who Dat".

We were yelling the WHO DEY chant in November of 1981.

Saints didn't start chirping out WHO DAT until 1983. Then it went away for awhile, but it resurfaced in 1987 during their playoff run. The Saints WHO DAT got some publicity because they were in the playoffs and the Bengals made their Super Bowl run in 1988 - so everyone thought the WHO DEY chant they were hearing from Bengals fans in 1988 was copied from the Saints from 1987 - but that wasn't so. It never left Bengals' fans mouths from 1981.

Actually, it is very probable that the Bengals started it in 1981, then LSU changed it to WHO DAT during their Orange Bowl run in 1982. Then the Saints adopted it as their battle cry.

Make no mistake - WHO DEY is a Cincy chant - and a Cincy chant alone. As ignorant as "WHO DEY" might sound - it's ours and ours alone. :)

I wonder a couple things. First, why would you come after me, a fellow Bengals fan, like that, right or wrong?

Second, why do it when your facts are iffy at best?

http://www.conk.com/search/encyclopedia.cgi?q=Cincinnati_Bengals