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MojoX
09-22-2005, 11:59 PM
It may take a couple games for Pendry's approach to take root, but I am looking forward to seeing how Carr develops over the rest of the season.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3364625
Pendry's direct, demanding approach is what Carr says he has needed perhaps subtly placing accountability for the Texans' offensive struggles on fired offensive coordinator Chris Palmer.

"I realized there were things I was doing that I didn't even know I was doing," Carr said. "There are things Joe has pointed out, just bad habits. It's little stuff, but it makes a big difference in the game."

The switch to Pendry as offensive coordinator is something that will go a long way in determining whether the Texans' biggest problem was Palmer or Carr.
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At Texans practices, Pendry's is the cackling voice preaching the playbook according to Joe. His is the voice hollering at Carr during practice, demanding better timing on routes and releases.

It is Pendry who stands over Carr's shoulder, his glasses on the bridge of his nose studying Carr's every movement. It is Pendry encouraging Carr, praising him.

And at one point Wednesday, it was Pendry yanking Carr out of the lineup in favor of backup Tony Banks when Carr failed to execute a play up to snuff.

"No, no, no, no!" Pendry told Carr when a play failed. "It's one, two, three, four ... ball. Ball! Ball! Ball! Throw it."

One play later, Carr was back under center.

"It's been a tough two days, but it's been good," Carr said. "There are definitely some things that you don't realize you're doing. When somebody calls you on it ... you actually like for that to happen.

"He'll just take you out on a play because he wants to talk to you about something. He wants to get things done right now."
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WWJD
09-23-2005, 11:56 AM
Um I'm going to reserve my opinion on this guy. I have 2 reservations about him.

1) he was the O line coach and they stink.

2) he used some lame line at his press conference the other day about being a soldier. It sounded really silly at the time. Goofy.

El Tejano
09-23-2005, 11:57 AM
Well well well. We are starting to see why the developement has taken so long. I don't know if the habits will be fixed over night but maybe we can see Carr pick it up over the season and give us something to hope for.

I guess Palmer is just good at technique and things like that but not good overall at evaluating the little things to make the QB successful in an offense. I think if we go back and look we will see that all the QBs Palmer worked with are accurate but didn't become winners until after he left the team.

Blake
09-23-2005, 12:41 PM
Um I'm going to reserve my opinion on this guy. I have 2 reservations about him.

1) he was the O line coach and they stink.

2) he used some lame line at his press conference the other day about being a soldier. It sounded really silly at the time. Goofy.

What makes you think the o-line stinks? Because people on the board say it? Because people on ESPN, and the radio say it?

The line overall has played well this year. So please stop acting like they havent.

WWJD
09-23-2005, 12:43 PM
Uh. Look if you think the O line is good or adequate fine. I think they stink. And I have eyes and don't need to base a judgement on what ESPN says or what anybody on this board says.

Blake
09-23-2005, 12:45 PM
Uh. Look if you think the O line is good or adequate fine. I think they stink. And I have eyes and don't need to base a judgement on what ESPN says or what anybody on this board says.

Alright. fair enough.

El Tejano
09-23-2005, 12:46 PM
Has anyone ever thought that he could possibly be a better OC than an Oline coach. We all know even though Palmer sucks, he is a better QB coach than OC.

WWJD
09-23-2005, 12:52 PM
It doesn't surprise me that they promoted from within...I figure they are thinking they have begun their season so they'd want somebody that was familiar with them already rather than a coach that knew nothing about the Texans or their system. So that makes sense.

But he did sound silly talking about being a soldier.

Hey I hope he works out and is great. But I'll take a wait and see approach about him.

SESupergenius
09-23-2005, 01:00 PM
Carr might be the No. 1 man and the most talented quarterback on the roster by far.That right there says it all. It's a nice fluff piece to make Pendry out to be all that, but really there have been as many mental breakdowns on the offensive line as there has been on Carr. Where's the article that he was yelling at them?

281
09-23-2005, 02:18 PM
What makes you think the o-line stinks? Because people on the board say it? Because people on ESPN, and the radio say it?

The line overall has played well this year. So please stop acting like they havent.

I gotta agree somewhat here. I wouldn't call the line play good... It could be MUCH MUCH better... but I think the grand majority of Carr's mistakes are his own fault.

MojoX
09-23-2005, 02:22 PM
That right there says it all. It's a nice fluff piece to make Pendry out to be all that, but really there have been as many mental breakdowns on the offensive line as there has been on Carr. Where's the article that he was yelling at them?
Obviously its a fluff piece. Heck, the fact it is written by John Lopez should let you know the article may be of dubious quality. But I didn't post the article for what Lopez has to say. I wanted the board to notice Carr's quotes. David Carr (among other star players on offense) hasn't been held accountable for his performance and hasn't been coached up on simple fundamental things -- things Carr has been doing incorrectly time and again. When I read Carr's quotes I got a sense of what Palmer wasn't doing and a little hope that Pendry's approach to the offense will make a difference. Of course I also wondered why the hell Capers just didn't fire Palmer early in the offseason. Given Pendry's history with Capers, it was obvious from the moment Pendry was hired that he was going to be taking Palmer's job.

Notice that Lopez doesn't acquit anyone else on the team. He simply writes a fluff piece about Carr and Pendry. Yes, he should have told us how Pendry is affecting the rest of the offense, especially the O-line. But he doesn't. Other than a passing mention that Palmer wasn't cracking the whip on AJ, this is the best we get:
"Without a doubt, it doesn't matter who you are, you're going to get coached up and coached right," Texans tackle Todd Wade said. "He runs a tight ship; that's for sure. His way is the way it goes. It's not that Joe is a yeller and a screamer, but he expects things to be done right. It's all about accountability and trust. Everybody has to do their job, and that's the way it's going to be."
Sounds to me as if Pendry is cracking the whip on everyone, not just Carr. Let's not let Lopez's poor writing and the Car-vs-the O-line debate prevent us from gleaning any meaning from what the players themselves have said.

Hervoyel
09-23-2005, 02:28 PM
Alright. fair enough.


You know, the truth is probably somewhere between what you and WWJD are saying. I think the line gets a bad rap for things that the QB does as well as missed blocks by the RB's and TE's at times. I also think they have a lot of work to do before they reach a level that's acceptable. I wouldn't put a ton of faith in how the team reports the line "graded out". They're the ones under pressure to show improvement on the line.

The bottom line is the offense has been bad. There's no point in arguing too much over whether it's the line, or the skill position players, or really even the coaches. It's the "Texans" and they're bad. They need to fix it.

PapaL
09-23-2005, 02:56 PM
And the winner is....both have been equally as bad! The times the line blocks people, DC scrambles right into them (or out of bounds). When they don't block, well you get the picture....

F-minus67
09-23-2005, 03:51 PM
I was wondering, was Plamer afraid to throw to AJ or is he really that well covered?

TexanFanInCC
09-23-2005, 04:40 PM
Um I'm going to reserve my opinion on this guy. I have 2 reservations about him.

1) he was the O line coach and they stink.

2) he used some lame line at his press conference the other day about being a soldier. It sounded really silly at the time. Goofy.

no i refuse to believe that our offensive line can possibly be that bad. if our line is really that bad, then y did we pay big bucks for todd wade? why have pitts and mckinney stuck around for the full 4 years?? victor riley has done an admirable job. i have been watching carr closely this season, and everyone is so quick to blame the offensive line for 2 reasons...a) we have the all time sacks given up record...and b) everyone believes the media when they say that david carr is gonna be the next john elway or such. well there is definitely something wrong with carr, and a tough minded coach can only help david carr. as i have been watching in the first 2 games, carr has been overlooking recievers 30 yards down the field wide open, and this is because he is resorting to scrambling himself out of bounds for sacks b4 the defense even gets closer to him. yes there have been plays where the o-line was and should be the scapegoat for criticism, like whenever polamalu constantly was up in carr's grill....but other than that, i havent noticed hardly any breakdowns in the protection. carr is taking much too much time in the pocket and he is not handling the blitz well. carr needs to use his safety valves like davis and murphy to keep defenses from blitzing every down. until carr utilizes his closest targets effectively, then defenses will have to stop blitzing....and then u can start looking deep to ur speedsters on the outsides. i am happy with the move and im hoping that this offense will get on track and help this defense out.


about babin and pukehanon, i think that benching them is the right thing to do. this defense needs to be reminded that no job is safe, and we do have some qualified replacements...like faggins and orr. i remember in 2003 when s. orr got a shot to play late in the season and he came up big for us in the pass rushing dept. i would like to see how he does as a starter.

Double Barrel
09-23-2005, 09:58 PM
I never liked Palmer. Anyone with colombia blue on their resume should stay far away from Houston football. It's just bad karma, especially if they are at all connected to the choke team. Call me superstitious, but that team will forever leave a bad stain on my soul for that day. idonno: Good riddance!

Anyway, I'm taking the high road right now and being optimistic...even against my nature. We'll see what Pendry has to offer and how much he can change the losing attitude of the 0-2 Texans. He's already approaching the players with a different style - hands on, aggressive old school preaching, on the sideline playcalling - and I think he might have more respect for/from the team than Palmer could muster.

Only time will tell, but I like the early hints we've seen so far. :cool:

stephen1
09-23-2005, 10:30 PM
Im glad to see Pendry come in. I felt the Texans abandoned the run too early in Buffalo. Palmer was a gunslinger type OC. Pendry will bring a running attack which will ultimately finally allow us to play action, get some time, and get the ball to dre. Palmer didnt do enough to get Dre open as he said in the off season.

CajunTexan
09-23-2005, 11:03 PM
[QUOTE=TexanFanInCC] i am happy with the move and im hoping that this offense will get on track and help this defense out.

I don't like to pick a line out of someones post and pick it apart, but I hope we all can agree that this defense is almost as bad as our offense. The moves in the off season designed to make the unit younger and more athletic have not paid any dividends. Our linebackers are much less effective than last year and although Aaron really made Casserly look like a genious on Monday night, the secondary has not played as well either. :bomb:

TexanFanInCC
09-24-2005, 12:00 AM
well a good offense would make the statistics look a tad better...but i agree tho that our run defense needs to step up after two great running teams thrashed our slow d-line....and walker went down again...whats new??? everyone needs to give up on him right now. it seems as if every game he has played in since the start of preseason, the trainers have had to scoop him off the field for some reason. gary hasnt been healthy in 3 years....the only season he was healthy 100% was 2002, and of course its not like what he contributed was noticed because we were 4-12 that season. i think the time is now to give the job to travis johnson.

edo783
09-24-2005, 12:17 AM
With G-Funk we are paying a TON for a guy that can't stay on the field. Hopefully TJ can step in and make a difference. Not sure how much Gary will cost us cap wise to cut him at the end of the season, but I suspect it is a large number.

GP
09-24-2005, 01:35 AM
TexanFaninCC said some really smart things, IMO.

such as :

"b) everyone believes the media when they say that david carr is gonna be the next john elway or such. well there is definitely something wrong with carr, and a tough minded coach can only help david carr. as i have been watching in the first 2 games, carr has been overlooking recievers 30 yards down the field wide open, and this is because he is resorting to scrambling himself out of bounds for sacks b4 the defense even gets closer to him."

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Carr has easily come across to me, especially after his lack of personal ownership in the Tampa Bay preseason game, as the golden child who has a coating of Teflon on his jersey (nothing sticks to him).

He was so quick to point out in his Tampa Bay postgame comments that "...WE have to do better, and it's nice to know that now we'll be playing REAL games..."

He copped out on what has easily his worst performance ever. And then he had the nerve to say that things would somehow be better since the next week provided a "real" game.

That itself was the biggest red flag for me leading up to the reg season.

I shook my head, made a smirk, and thought: "Yep. We are going to get absolutely throttled in Buffalo."

Carr was miffed about Palmer getting axed because he knew recess was over and the schoolteacher was coming out to the playground to get him. Sounds like Carr has accepted his fate and is now trying to be accountable moreso...especially when it looks like Palmer didn't push him as hard as Pendry did the o line.

Funny how things come full circle. The o line gets a fresh voice in their new o line coach, and the rest of the offense gets a fresh voice in Pendry.

This will probably push us to 8-8 and save Capers job. (Dang it) :hairpull:

OzzO
09-24-2005, 12:47 PM
Carr was miffed? Per the end of this article sounds like he's more appreciative of getting someone to point out the mistakes and make him improve.

....The message:

Carr might be the No. 1 man and the most talented quarterback on the roster by far. But he's going to have to prove it. Every day.

If Carr doesn't, Pendry won't play around. The days of being treated like a superstar and worse, being allowed to act like one are over.

"That's something that I've always wanted," Carr said. "I've wanted to be treated like everybody else. I think you get more respect from your teammates that way. You're one of the guys. That's what Andre (Johnson) wants to be. That's what I want to be. That's what everyone wants."

That's what everyone's got. Accountability no one more than the QB.

By the way Double Barrel... I think there's one more with columbia blue in our midst... G. Walker.

Double Barrel
09-24-2005, 03:37 PM
By the way Double Barrel... I think there's one more with columbia blue in our midst... G. Walker.

Yikes! You're right! :eek:

Yep, that could explain a lot. :howdy: (at least he wasn't part of the choke team, though)

TexansTrueFan
09-24-2005, 07:19 PM
ya know what i did notice on carr, i have seen him have six or seven seconds to throw SOMETIMES and he will pump fake about 5 times, its like he second guesses him self, and then he gets sacked and pitches a fit. Could be just me but i have seen him have time but he just has been holding onto the ball to long !

touttail
09-25-2005, 01:43 AM
"I realized there were things I was doing that I didn't even know I was doing," Carr said. "There are things Joe has pointed out, just bad habits. It's little stuff, but it makes a big difference in the game."

Help me understand this. Chris Palmer was the Offensive coordinator. Pendry was the OLine coach. Shouldn't they have been working together to get the offense ready for "the big game"? Why has Pendry waited for Palmer to leave before speaking up? Aren't all the coaches trying to win? Why didn't Pendry say something to Palmer about Carr's "little mistakes" or "bad habits"?


bobby 119C :brickwall

Txn_in_FL
09-25-2005, 01:53 AM
Help me understand this. Chris Palmer was the Offensive coordinator. Pendry was the OLine coach. Shouldn't they have been working together to get the offense ready for "the big game"? Why has Pendry waited for Palmer to leave before speaking up? Aren't all the coaches trying to win? Why didn't Pendry say something to Palmer about Carr's "little mistakes" or "bad habits"?


Everyone has an ego, for all we know Palmer could have told Pendry to mind his o-line and go pound sand. All I can really say is that I am looking forward to the Cincy game just to see if there is any change.