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texan2061
09-18-2005, 02:10 PM
More and more, Carr looks more like a back-up than a starter. As a matter of fact, Carr has not impressed me at all since he came to the Texans. If Capers does not get at least to the playoffs, it's time for him to go and take Carr with him.

CyberTexan
09-18-2005, 02:14 PM
Im sure Carr would love that too , because behind any other coaching staff and Offensive line Carr would flurish into a great QB

texan2061
09-18-2005, 02:15 PM
Im sure Carr would love that too , because behind any other coaching staff and Offensive line Carr would flurish into a great QB

I don't think so.

WWJD
09-18-2005, 02:17 PM
I don't know what's wrong with David. He's got all the talent in the world.

CyberTexan
09-18-2005, 02:17 PM
sick of the select few blameing Carr , its not Carr hard to throw from on your back and if you cant keep a consistant running game going you have nobody to pass too . you cant gain any confidence when the Oline is so inconsistant

texan2061
09-18-2005, 02:20 PM
sick of the select few blameing Carr , its not Carr hard to throw from on your back and if you cant keep a consistant running game going you have nobody to pass too .

Any other quarterback would be able to handle what David Carr cannot handle with the Texans.

gtexan02
09-18-2005, 02:22 PM
He scrambles out of the pocket almost every play and passes side armed a lot

WWJD
09-18-2005, 02:22 PM
Very true. The successful offenses run the ball well and use the pass to offset that. It's just football 101.

David seems to be running for his life most of the time. Maybe he's a frustrated RB rather than a QB.

Elite
09-18-2005, 02:27 PM
Im sure Carr would love that too , because behind any other coaching staff and Offensive line Carr would flurish into a great QB



Dude stop going down on carr he sucks select few? more than half the people here see that he suck he would flourish as a QB somewere else my god who would want him. :texans: do you listen to sports radio at all more than have the callers were asking for his job.

WWJD
09-18-2005, 02:29 PM
He's not mentally making sound decisions and seems to be rushing things.

It's almost as though he wants to run every single play rather than pass.

Elite
09-18-2005, 02:30 PM
its not david,s fault ask some of this homers its everybody's fault but david the field general is never to blame. :yahoo:

Trogdor014
09-18-2005, 02:30 PM
Dude stop going down on carr he sucks select few? more than half the people here see that he suck he would flourish as a QB somewere else my god who would want him. do you listen to sports radio at all more than have the callers were asking for his job.

Can you at least use punctuation properly? It might actually make it sound like you know what you are talking about.

Elite
09-18-2005, 02:32 PM
ok ill try but david carr is still going to suck. <PERIOD

HoustonFan
09-18-2005, 02:32 PM
How about we keep Carr, and lose Capers. WILL SOMEONE PLEASE Palomalu.

Trogdor014
09-18-2005, 02:33 PM
its not david,s fault ask some of this homers its everybody's fault but david the field general is never to blame.

I know Carr has to shoulder some of the blame, but to think any other QB could come in here and succeed with the personel we have is completely asinine.

Texas_Heat
09-18-2005, 02:33 PM
Im sure Carr would love that too , because behind any other coaching staff and Offensive line Carr would flurish into a great QB


Carr is a bust open your eyes.

Elite
09-18-2005, 02:34 PM
How about we keep Carr, and lose Capers. WILL SOMEONE PLEASE Palomalu.


if we keep carr it would cost us to much money i agree keeping carr for the league minimum other than that it would be too much. :rofl:

Uriah43
09-18-2005, 02:34 PM
To beat Pittsburgh we cannot make mistakes. Yet we're making mistakes. We have to stop their offense and so far we haven't. We need to get some offense going yet nothing seems to work. I don't know. Maybe it's our new offensive scheme...

:brickwall

tsip
09-18-2005, 02:36 PM
Two things- first, why won't Carr throw the ball away instead of running out of bounds? Second, it kind of sums up the Texans offensive strategy when Carr is running to his left while the receiver is opened on his right...side thought, game planning???

WWJD
09-18-2005, 02:37 PM
Pittsburgh is probably one of the top 3 teams in the league....they are a solid SB contender.

It was going to take a very nice offensive showing from the Texans to stay with those guys. They don't look mentally right and they make stupid mistakes. Can't do that against those guys. They're too darn good.

coog80
09-18-2005, 02:38 PM
How humiliating...Carr had a guy wide open too, but he's so used to getting sacked he assumed there was no time to throw so he instinctively ran out of bounds....

CyberTexan
09-18-2005, 02:38 PM
Dude stop going down on carr he sucks select few? more than half the people here see that he suck he would flourish as a QB somewere else my god who would want him. do you listen to sports radio at all more than have the callers were asking for his job.



stop going down ? dont be rude it shows your age and knowledge , im just stateing this isnt all Carrs Fault , its Poor Coaching , its Poor Oline Blocking , you cant complete passes if the defense knows your gonna pass because you cant run the ball , look at last year Carr finshed 12th in passing yards and like 15th in QB rating so whats changed ? hmm lets see Oline , Defense theres only a few playing the same position they did last year. And who changed all that ? Coaches bad decisions

Trogdor014
09-18-2005, 02:41 PM
he assumed there was no time to throw

There was no time to throw. Gaffney was wide open on that play because all the defenders left him open knowing he couldn't throw the ball back against his body. I don't think any QB could have made that pass (and I think only a young Favre would have tried it)

Uriah43
09-18-2005, 02:43 PM
I realize that Pittsburgh is a legitimate contender but to lose like this a HOME is just plain awful. The coaching staff is going to have to make some adjustments. Go to 4 wideouts to force the secondary into possible one-on-one coverage of Andre Johnson. More screens and draws to take away the Pittsburgh Blitz. Traps. Two TE sets to give Carr more time to throw. Something. ANYTHING that works.

:brickwall

Elite
09-18-2005, 02:44 PM
ok ill change my point of view david carr is the next Joe Montana. wooohoooo go david your the best in the league. lets just go ahead and put you in the Hall Of Fame daivd carr. :yahoo:

WWJD
09-18-2005, 02:45 PM
Yea the guy is running for his life most of the time. It ALL begins with the line. He makes poor choices sure but I think he's pushing it...trying too hard and you make mistakes when you do that.

CyberTexan
09-18-2005, 02:47 PM
EXACTLY nobody else could do any better with what they would have to work with

Elite
09-18-2005, 02:52 PM
How humiliating...Carr had a guy wide open too, but he's so used to getting sacked he assumed there was no time to throw so he instinctively ran out of bounds....


they were awsome.

coog80
09-18-2005, 03:35 PM
Those should be attributed to Carr

Trogdor014
09-18-2005, 03:41 PM
Or possibly the coaching staff. It all depends how quick they are actually getting the plays in. Knowing how many mental mistakes we make as a team I would say that it is the coaches.

droop
09-18-2005, 04:01 PM
Trade David Carr PLEASE!!!!!!GET A NEW O_LINE PLEASE!!!!GET A NEW COACH PLEASE!!!david carr needs to learn how to take hits and stop folding under the deffence.the line needs to learn how to block and stop getting scared every time the deffence BLITZES.we need a new coach.he dont work them enough.he needs to start making them work harder.thats the texans problem.i have no more to say.who agrees?

BuffSoldier
09-18-2005, 04:03 PM
How many times does DC get sacked this year. My personal bet is that unless David gets hurt, he breaks his record of 72, because he has been sacked 13 times in 2 games, even if he did cause some, they still count. Right now , he is on pace to be sacked 104 times this season.

Honoring Earl 34
09-18-2005, 04:04 PM
:ok: Carr is a religous man and I be praying to . He just needs to shorten it up a bit .

Elite
09-18-2005, 04:04 PM
how come everytime david carr blows it we find someone else to blame. :woot2 when does david get the heat. lol:

droop
09-18-2005, 04:07 PM
i am baming the coach the Qb and the o_line they all suck

GP
09-18-2005, 04:13 PM
He can control certain things, but he's choosing to fail.

Running out of bounds instead of throwing it (lost yards by doing that).

Fumbling when he should have pulled it down.

Delay of game about three times a game so far.

Those are basic, elementary things an NFL-caliber QB should do no matter what the situation. No excuse. Period.

He can CONTROL that stuff, but he's just zoning out and choosing to be stubborn about stuff.

His off-field character aside.....he's sinking FAST on the field, and it's partially his fault. Not ALL his fault, but he needs to be above the other players' miscues. That's why he's the man, or is he?

Reddevil63
09-18-2005, 04:27 PM
when does david get the heat. lol:When he has a line, a pocket, and coaches who know how to call games. Blaming this on Carr right now is simply unfair. Give me the name of ANY QB in the NFL right now that can throw for 300 yards on their back????

RoleModel
09-18-2005, 04:27 PM
Everybody's blaming Carr, but nobody's blaming Casserly. Doesn't he make the personnel decisions? Who's job is it to get us a decent o-line so Carr doesn't end up on his back?

Elite
09-18-2005, 04:30 PM
Everybody's blaming Carr, but nobody's blaming Casserly. Doesn't he make the personnel decisions? Who's job is it to get us a decent o-line so Carr doesn't end up on his back?



Oh ive blame him plenty his worst mistake was drafting ***** david carr david is worthless as a NFL QB. :bomb:

jacquescas
09-18-2005, 04:33 PM
carr made decent reads when you put him in shotgun and 4 wide sets, they never let him get into a rythm, and the O line play has been pathetic. we can't pass block to save our lives. any rookie lineman we draft will most likely be a couple years away from making a contribution its gonna be a long season. i bet those 2 first rounders for Pace is starting to look alot better

Elite
09-18-2005, 04:34 PM
When he has a line, a pocket, and coaches who know how to call games. Blaming this on Carr right now is simply unfair. Give me the name of ANY QB in the NFL right now that can throw for 300 yards on their back????



Abd you see thats why david will never be a good QB he still is a postwer child in your eyes and when everything is handed to you. you have no idea what it takes to be great when the blame is never on you. but i agree david carr is the greatest QB of all time. its everyones fault but him.

Buzz
09-18-2005, 04:35 PM
I think Carr, after years of being chased and pummeled, is like a dog who has been treated so badly that he's scared and has a lot of mistrust.

supertankman
09-18-2005, 04:37 PM
Get the man a oline like Big Ben and come back and complain about Carr does not produce! Did you see all the time Big Ben had?

BuffSoldier
09-18-2005, 04:39 PM
I think Carr, after years of being chased and pummeled, is like a dog who has been treated so badly that he's scared and has a lot of mistrust.

nice parallel, you must have scored well on the SAT

Porky
09-18-2005, 04:56 PM
What other starting QB's would I trade Carr for. How about any of the other 31 starting QB's. Right now, he is worse than horrible.

CajunTexan
09-18-2005, 04:58 PM
Texan2061 "Any other quarterback would be able to handle what Carr cannot with the Texans?" How about Tim Ratty with SF? 4/11 with 3 picks at the half. "Joe" Harrington, 4 pixs today. Dunte Culpepper sure looked good for the Vikings!! How many pixs did he throw?

I did not get to see the game out here, but I did get to watch even the great Peyton Manning struggle today.

8 sacks!!!!

When the offense came out and scored to start the second half to cut the lead to 13, what did the defense do? Oh yeah, they let Pittsburgh march down and score again!!!! How many turnovers did the defense get???? Oh yeah, wasn't it 000000???!!!!

Stop putting it all on Carr and address the MANY problems this team has!!!!

Porky
09-18-2005, 05:03 PM
Hey, domdavis? Still saying the same as you said in this thread?

Carr thread (http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showpost.php?p=159058&postcount=24)

Proteus
09-18-2005, 05:04 PM
Carr has to to be the weakest link here. He needs to go Bye-Bye. I have never seen a more horrible display of play execution from a QB since the great days of Ryan Leif. Trade or Fire Carr, thats what needs to be done. The Texans need a leader who can get this team up out of the sewer. If you want to read some more of my Carr bashing (with a little more thought involved) check out my thread called "The Beginning of the End..."
~Proteus

threetoedpete
09-18-2005, 05:11 PM
Im sure Carr would love that too , because behind any other coaching staff and Offensive line Carr would flurish into a great QB

Agrreed. If Mooch gets his hands on him in that Detroit WCO, they're SB contenders. Wouldn't mind at this point seeing him traded. It's obvios his tallent is waisted under this staff.

NFLforher
09-18-2005, 05:12 PM
Im sure Carr would love that too , because behind any other coaching staff and Offensive line Carr would flurish into a great QB

That's what I'm thinking.

disaacks3
09-18-2005, 05:15 PM
He can control certain things, but he's choosing to fail.

Running out of bounds instead of throwing it (lost yards by doing that).

Fumbling when he should have pulled it down.

Delay of game about three times a game so far.
Let's not forget...

Running out of the pocket straight INTO a sack!

Ignoring all WR, except those near the sideline he's running to when scrambling

supertankman
09-18-2005, 05:16 PM
Carr has to to be the weakest link here. He needs to go Bye-Bye. I have never seen a more horrible display of play execution from a QB since the great days of Ryan Leif. Trade or Fire Carr, thats what needs to be done. The Texans need a leader who can get this team up out of the sewer. If you want to read some more of my Carr bashing (with a little more thought involved) check out my thread called "The Beginning of the End..."
~Proteus


So you are the MAN! Get serious and start putting your focus towards real issues like our online and our rookie defense, our defense gave up 20 points today and you cant blame one man for that! The D did not give our offense any hope for success! The steelers were backed up inside the 20 when we were only down by 6 when Babin had a false start penalty and the f-agg boy (faggins) gave up that bomb, that was the game! Give the real MAN, DC a chance to win the game! Look at Leftwich against the colts, at least he had a chance to tie the game up wth 60 seconds down by 7. The Jags had a total of 3 points!

threetoedpete
09-18-2005, 05:18 PM
Texan2061 "Any other quarterback would be able to handle what Carr cannot with the Texans?" How about Tim Ratty with SF? 4/11 with 3 picks at the half. "Joe" Harrington, 4 pixs today. Dunte Culpepper sure looked good for the Vikings!! How many pixs did he throw?

I did not get to see the game out here, but I did get to watch even the great Peyton Manning struggle today.

8 sacks!!!!

When the offense came out and scored to start the second half to cut the lead to 13, what did the defense do? Oh yeah, they let Pittsburgh march down and score again!!!! How many turnovers did the defense get???? Oh yeah, wasn't it 000000???!!!!

Stop putting it all on Carr and address the MANY problems this team has!!!!


More than that, Babs jumped off sides and turned a potential come back into a forty yard bomb. At my last count, twenty eight times Carr was under assult on passing plays. Carr is the conveint target in here, but it ain't all David Carr. He'll win somewhere for someone one day. He is a good young qb. It is his misfortune he's playing for a ****** organazation. JMHO.

Honch Delgado
09-18-2005, 05:23 PM
As far as Carr flourishing under another team, I seem to remember Tony Banks not doing so bad in his starts. I don't see the reasoning of people on the boards saying put Carr on another team and bam SB contender and MVP. I was high on the guy when we drafted him and supported him for 3 seasons, but the more he plays the more he looks like Ramsey, Boller, and the rest. A lot of the sacks today were on him. He played well at the start of the 3rd when he stepped into the pocket and quick released or when we utilized the play action. Other than that he kept rolling when he didn't have to or stepped right into the block direction. But the whole team needs to be reevaluated not just carr. Armstrong was the only bright spot today.

WWJD
09-18-2005, 05:23 PM
Just curious.

Where did Ben R. (not even going to try to spell his last name) go to college?

He is very poised for a young QB. I know it's a product of the Pittsburgh system but the guy just seems to not get rattled. Impressive.

texasguy346
09-18-2005, 05:25 PM
Just curious.

Where did Ben R. (not even going to try to spell his last name) go to college?

He is very poised for a young QB. I know it's a product of the Pittsburgh system but the guy just seems to not get rattled. Impressive.

Big Ben went to Miami of Ohio. Yet another very talented QB from the MAC. (Lefty, Big Ben, Pennington, Jacobs)

WWJD
09-18-2005, 05:27 PM
Thank you for the info.

I had it in my head he went to Louisville but I just knew that was wrong when I sat down and thought about it....

He's impressive. The Steelers are set at QB for a long time now.

Texans Horror
09-18-2005, 05:36 PM
No interceptions. 46 yards rushing. (DD had 59)

Versus: what was it? 8 sacks, 9 rushes? Come on. Let's not turn him into an escape goat.

Reddevil63
09-18-2005, 05:45 PM
lol: hahaha, the only thing handed to him was a few 300 lb d-linemen every week for the first 4 years.

GrandPa
09-18-2005, 06:13 PM
I would like to see them throw Ragone out there and see what he can do...

He cannot do any worse and I personally think he would do better than Carr if given all the chance Carr as been given...

vtech9
09-18-2005, 06:19 PM
No interceptions. 46 yards rushing. (DD had 59)

Versus: what was it? 8 sacks, 9 rushes? Come on. Let's not turn him into an escape goat.
for those that didn't watch the game, don't put too much into the "sacks". David Carr ran out of bounds, behind the line of scrimmage, 4 times. Those 4 times were counted as "sacks" and cost the Texans yardage. Every one of those times, Carr had plenty of time to throw the ball away. One of the "sacks" is going to be credited to D. Davis, but it was actually DD's fault. If Carr would have stepped up into the pocket, or at least underneath Davis, he would not have been sacked. Instead, Carr tried to run around Troy P., and that just wasn't very smart.

Carr does not use his blockers well. He also does not read defenses well. He doesn't have very good field vision. He is not making very good decisions. Right now, he is not giving the Texans the best chance to win. Granted, the O-line and playcalling need to improve, but if Carr made better decisions, the Texans had a chance to win both games.

The Texans Defense has its problems as well. they are playing too soft in the secondary, and P-Buch looked more like puke.

rmartin65
09-18-2005, 06:19 PM
seems like carr had a good game though.

ROYDESTROY
09-18-2005, 06:21 PM
More and more, Carr looks more like a back-up than a starter. As a matter of fact, Carr has not impressed me at all since he came to the Texans. If Capers does not get at least to the playoffs, it's time for him to go and take Carr with him.

The honeymoon is over...Carr is lookin to be a bust..3 years he must produce..no more excuses..stop drinking the kool aid..he has not produced..great post a slap in the :homer: face..but much needed before the Texans get better

mmontgo
09-18-2005, 06:24 PM
the number one issue with this team is and always has been time for Carr to throw. He has never had it since he was drafted. We saw flashes of Carr's above average play, but never fully viewed.

MEMO TO CASSERLY AND CAPERS: FIX THE LINE TO AVERAGE AND THIS TEAM WILL KNOCK ON THE PLAYOFF DOOR! NEXT FIX THE RECEIVER CORE AND THIS TEAM IS IN THE PLAYOFFS. NEXT FIX THE FAILURE TO PROVIDE A RUSH AND THIS TEAM WILL GO FURTHER IN THE PLAYOFFS.

Carr can play--I believe. He will do well if given time, not great however. But, better than average for certain.

Now, the question is: is he damaged goods. I do not think so. if given 4 seconds to throw the ball on an average basis, johnson will get open and davis will run the ball with more consistency.....


THE AXE FALLS ON CASSERLY FIRST, CAPERS SECOND, PALMER THIRD, MCNAIR FOURTH FOR NOT GETTING BETTER FROM ALL

Lucky
09-18-2005, 06:42 PM
Mergerd the David Carr thread in the NFL forum with the current David Carr thread in the Bullpen.

Folks, take a look at the existing threads before starting new ones. Please.

mike88
09-18-2005, 06:46 PM
It is time for Carr to go. He has 3 years to improve but we see nothing. Next year, we need to make a blockbuster trade to get Matt Leinert of USC. Or we can start using Dave Ragone as a starter.

Elite
09-18-2005, 06:55 PM
It is time for Carr to go. He has 3 years to improve but we see nothing. Next year, we need to make a blockbuster trade to get Matt Leinert of USC. Or we can start using Dave Ragone as a starter.



No i refuse to make a blockbuster trade you know why we dont need too David Carr is going to guarantee we get Matt LionHeart we are going to get the number one overall pick so i guess in a way its good to have DC starting if we had banks or ragone we might actually have a chance of wining. and we dont want that not anymore this is a lost season.

Hervoyel
09-18-2005, 06:58 PM
From another thread. My opinion on this in a nutshell.



Carr was at fault just as bad as the line so lets not give carr any excuses........

Yes he was. I spent the entire afternoon doing nothing but watching David Carr in the pocket since there wasn't much doubt about the outcome of the game from early on. I paid for the ticket so I decided to put the time to good use for a change. Usually I'm too wound up and emotional to do more than scream at the appropriate moments and watch the ball. Today I had a strange feeling of calm come over me as I watched them come apart and mostly I ignored the ball. I watched the offensive line and the defence prior to the snap. After that I just watched Carr and when he took a snap I counted.

People, everbody. I know this is hard to accept but David Carr really stinks. Whether it's something he brought with him (I personally doubt it) or something he has become since he was drafted by the Texans (my view) can be debated but the fact remains. This guy is damaged goods and one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the NFL right now.

Happy feet, bad decisions, failure to learn even the most basic concepts needed to play his position. You name it and it can be pinned on David Carr right now. If I were the Texans coaches I'd bench him just to stop the carnage, His line is getting him sacked about 15% of the time. His line and his backs and tight ends combined are probably responsible for 40-50% of his problems. The rest is all David.

I don't see how anyone with eyes to see could continue to defend David Carr's play after this weekend. In two weeks the Bengals will continue this trail of destruction. Carr is very possibly done here folks.
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Elite
09-18-2005, 07:03 PM
From another thread. My opinion on this in a nutshell.




Yes he was. I spent the entire afternoon doing nothing but watching David Carr in the pocket since there wasn't much doubt about the outcome of the game from early on. I paid for the ticket so I decided to put the time to good use for a change. Usually I'm too wound up and emotional to do more than scream at the appropriate moments and watch the ball. Today I had a strange feeling of calm come over me as I watched them come apart and mostly I ignored the ball. I watched the offensive line and the defence prior to the snap. After that I just watched Carr and when he took a snap I counted.

People, everbody. I know this is hard to accept but David Carr really stinks. Whether it's something he brought with him (I personally doubt it) or something he has become since he was drafted by the Texans (my view) can be debated but the fact remains. This guy is damaged goods and one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the NFL right now.

Happy feet, bad decisions, failure to learn even the most basic concepts needed to play his position. You name it and it can be pinned on David Carr right now. If I were the Texans coaches I'd bench him just to stop the carnage, His line is getting him sacked about 15% of the time. His line and his backs and tight ends combined are probably responsible for 40-50% of his problems. The rest is all David.

I don't see how anyone with eyes to see could continue to defend David Carr's play after this weekend. In two weeks the Bengals will continue this trail of destruction. Carr is very possibly done here folks.
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TY for opening your eyes some of dont just say what we say just to say it i have seen every texans games over and over again and i can count with three fingers how many good games david carr has had and i simply demand more from a QB much less a "Franchise Player" but you will have these homers never admiting to our mistakes as a franchise.

Lucky
09-18-2005, 07:25 PM
Stop putting it all on Carr and address the MANY problems this team has!!!!
If we address all the problems with this team, our collective head will spin off our neck.

:texans: (close as I could get to a disembodied head)

Keep it simple and bash the QB. Carr's paid well to handle it. He should have backed up Bradford & AJ on the balls they dropped. He should have devised a blocking scheme that can slow down a zone blitz. He should have put pressure on Big Ben. He shouldn't have jumped offsides on 3rd down. He should have knocked Parker on his rear rather than give him a love tap.

Carr has to make these plays, because he's the QB and no one else on this team will. Hopefully, Carr will remain the starter for the rest of the season, so we'll have an easy target to blame. Whether Carr is the Texans QB in '06 is the next regime's problem.

DomDavis
09-18-2005, 07:29 PM
Hey, domdavis? Still saying the same as you said in this thread?

Carr thread (http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showpost.php?p=159058&postcount=24)

Absolutely. I thought Carr played fantastic today given the circumstances... a rating of almost 93 with the **** he had to deal with... better than any of my wildest expectations.

Proteus
09-18-2005, 07:37 PM
Bingo! I'm glad someone besides myself has opened their eyes to the utter display of bad football brought on by David Carr. Maybe he would bloom into a desent QB after a year or two on the bench. You can see that from Year 1 to the Present, that Carr has stumbled over himself and became a disaster. At one point he might have shown promise, but as the games when on... his head became too big for his helmet. From Fresno State to the NFL, fame and glory are what I think brought this QB into his demise. Step back Carr... look at your team... you have brought shame into this franchise. Like you said, "Preseason's over..." I say, "Welcome to the Big Leagues, Golden Boy." ~Proteus

Goldeagle
09-18-2005, 07:54 PM
Carr cannot block, catch, throw and run! Then again NO ONE ON THE TEAM CAN EITHER!

Anyone blaming Carr is absolutly stupid! We played 2 great defenses and it was to be expected. MY 5 BUDDIES from Pittsburgh who went to the game talked all the way home about Daivd Carr and how pathetic the team looks around him. IF PITTSBURGH FAN IS SAYING THAT, SHOULDNT WE??

Goldeagle
09-18-2005, 07:55 PM
It is time for Carr to go. He has 3 years to improve but we see nothing. Next year, we need to make a blockbuster trade to get Matt Leinert of USC. Or we can start using Dave Ragone as a starter.


YOU PEOPLE ARE CRAZY to want to start Ragone?? That guy has a bigger "derr" look than Coach Capers does.

rmartin65
09-18-2005, 08:12 PM
He is absolutely horrible. No talent whatsoever.
what are you on? a passer rating of about 93% is pretty good.

edo783
09-18-2005, 08:13 PM
his head became too big for his helmet.

That comes from all the defensive lineman smacking him all the time.

Elite
09-18-2005, 08:25 PM
what are you on? a passer rating of about 93% is pretty good.


Keep your garbage QB rating show me you can win a game. :texflag: show me you can lead a team from behind show me your not gonna fumble. the fumble was key play of the game after that we never had a chance. :yahoo:

DomDavis
09-18-2005, 08:31 PM
Keep your garbage QB rating show me you can win a game. :texflag: show me you can lead a team from behind show me your not gonna fumble. the fumble was key play of the game after that we never had a chance. :yahoo:

Unfortunately, teams win games and teams come from behind... not individual players.

Elite
09-18-2005, 10:09 PM
Ok oh that route it wasnt the teams fumble it was DC it wasnt the teams Int's last week they were DC next. :texflag: