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LBC_Justin
09-15-2005, 05:16 PM
If I didn't know better and was only reading this message board, I would think that the Texans were 0-6 and not just 0-1 with their only loss being a road loss against a team that is probably playoff bound.(Every expert in the NFL picked the Bills to win that game.)

I am hearing more doom and gloom than I have ever heard before.
Fire this person, fire that person. Questioning every draft pick ever made. Come on, the season is not even close to being over.

We are still a team on the rise. The Texans have only had one bad game this season.(Don't bother bring up preseason because it doesn't matter, ask Big Ben, the Colts, and the Broncos.)

Yes, the Texans didn't look very good last week. But I have watched the game three times now and all I can say is other than a subpar pass rush our Defense played great. They were on the field too much(so they were tired) and started with bad field position, both of those because of offensive turnovers. But we have a lot to be positive on the defensive side of the ball. All we need is for some of those Defensive guys to step up and make big plays, gets some INTs, creates some fumbles, and create havok.

This is a new week for the offense and a good rattling can work wonders sometimes.

Yes this is going to be a tough week. Even if we lose, 0-2 is not the end of the world. EVERYONE who knew anything about football knew these were going to be tough games. We start off by playing the #1 and #2 defenses from last year. Yes, they are going to make our offense look bad at times, that is after all how they got to be the #1 and #2 defenses last year.

Relax. Have faith and wait a few weeks before we all start calling for the coaches, players and managements heads. (Trust me I have these same feelings, I wanted Palmer fired on the spot when he had us run on 1st & 20, and I had steam coming out of my ears when Capers decided not to go for it on 4th and inches, down in the 4th quarter.)

:texflag: :tv: enjoy the show!! :texflag:

Double Barrel
09-15-2005, 05:19 PM
We start off by playing the #1 and #2 defenses from last year.

yeah, what's up with that?! Shouldn't the Colts be playing these teams at the beginning of their season!? idonno:

But good post. It does seem like one of the more demoralizing losses for fans...coming out of the gate flat and looking like a first year expansion team.

However, like you said, it's only one game, and it's not like we can't rebound. So I agree with you...at least until Monday (and that depends on how they play Sunday ;) )

Mongoose
09-15-2005, 05:24 PM
I'm a Steelers fan, and I only wish that the Texans were somewhere near as bad as the Titans. After the way the Bills ran at the Texans last week, I can't see the Texans not being angry and ready to do battle up front against the run.

I don't see Pittsburgh losing this game, but I don't think they'll be doing cartwheels through it, either. Parker is unlikely to have the same kind of day this Sunday, and I don't think Roethlisberger (assuming his knee's okay) will get by only throwing 11 passes.

I think the Steelers win this one, but they also do some time in the whirlpool afterward.

Mongoose

TEXANS84
09-15-2005, 05:37 PM
yeah, what's up with that?! Shouldn't the Colts be playing these teams at the beginning of their season!? idonno:


I'm wondering if that had a determining factor in our week 3 bye.

RTP2110
09-15-2005, 06:12 PM
I don't think it's the fact that the Texans lost that has people upset. It's more about the way they lost.

Exascor
09-15-2005, 06:17 PM
I don't think it's the fact that the Texans lost that has people upset. It's more about the way they lost.Hit it on the head. I anticipated them losing but hoped they'd prove better than their preseason performances. They failed. Quality play makes a loss easier to swallow.

the wonger need food
09-15-2005, 06:24 PM
Good points. This is the second gutless effort in a row (not including the terrible preseason games) and fans have had enough of it. If the team played with what appeared to be any effort or passion it would be much different.

Beer and Metal
09-15-2005, 06:39 PM
I seem to remember the Texans looking a little slow and out of sync the first couple of games last year. I don't have them recorded, so I can't double check.
If so, I expect them to get it together by game 3.
Maybe a bye in week 3 ain't such bad a thing after all.

rmartin65
09-15-2005, 06:50 PM
yea, we got to beat the Bengals. i live in the heart of the jungle. nothing would please me more than to rub it in my friends faces thet the Texans won!

ATX
09-15-2005, 06:53 PM
As bad as we played last Sunday, a win in Houston against the Steelers would be huge thus far. 1-1 going into the bye wouldn't be a bad thing, I think most here would consider it a success. I would consider it a success for us.

nunusguy
09-15-2005, 06:58 PM
If I didn't know better and was only reading this message board, I would think that the Texans were 0-6 and not just 0-1 with their only loss being a road loss against a team that is probably playoff bound.(Every expert in the NFL picked the Bills to win that game.)

You're missing the point Justin, the problem is not the record, its the way we
played the game, or maybe the lack of playing the game, i.e. not showing up
for the season opener. And the game was most comparable to what was the last game of last season. So in effect we've got an 8 month break between the 2004 & 2005 regular seasons with book-end games from the end of 2004 and the beginning 2005 being 2 of the sorryest efforts in the teams young history. Understand, not an auspicious start for the new season especially
when you consider its kinda of a deja vu type event with the season finale last year with the Browns.
But its a new week and redemption awaits the Texans at Reliant Stadium this Sunday !

HardKnockTexan
09-15-2005, 07:20 PM
Good points. This is the second gutless effort in a row (not including the terrible preseason games) and fans have had enough of it. If the team played with what appeared to be any effort or passion it would be much different.

Exactly. I didnt expect my Texans to win last week. What i did expect was for them to field a competitive team that showed like they had some clue about what they were doing out there. This is the first season where I was let down on opening day. Last season we loss to San Diego and to be honest, I went into that game expecting a win. At the end, I was a little disapointed in the loss, but not in our fight and passion. It was obvious that we were fielding a much better team than we did in 03 so I was satisfied about that. This season, it's not so obvious that we were better than we were last year. I'll love my team even if we go 0-16. All I ask for is improvement. I dont think that's too much to hope for. Hopefully all this thinking will change after a win come sunday.

tsip
09-15-2005, 07:48 PM
If I didn't know better and was only reading this message board, I would think that the Texans were 0-6 and not just 0-1 with their only loss being a road loss against a team that is probably playoff bound.(Every expert in the NFL picked the Bills to win that game.)

I am hearing more doom and gloom than I have ever heard before.
Fire this person, fire that person. Questioning every draft pick ever made. Come on, the season is not even close to being over.

We are still a team on the rise. The Texans have only had one bad game this season.(Don't bother bring up preseason because it doesn't matter, ask Big Ben, the Colts, and the Broncos.)

Yes, the Texans didn't look very good last week. But I have watched the game three times now and all I can say is other than a subpar pass rush our Defense played great. They were on the field too much(so they were tired) and started with bad field position, both of those because of offensive turnovers. But we have a lot to be positive on the defensive side of the ball. All we need is for some of those Defensive guys to step up and make big plays, gets some INTs, creates some fumbles, and create havok.

This is a new week for the offense and a good rattling can work wonders sometimes.

Yes this is going to be a tough week. Even if we lose, 0-2 is not the end of the world. EVERYONE who knew anything about football knew these were going to be tough games. We start off by playing the #1 and #2 defenses from last year. Yes, they are going to make our offense look bad at times, that is after all how they got to be the #1 and #2 defenses last year.

Relax. Have faith and wait a few weeks before we all start calling for the coaches, players and managements heads. (Trust me I have these same feelings, I wanted Palmer fired on the spot when he had us run on 1st & 20, and I had steam coming out of my ears when Capers decided not to go for it on 4th and inches, down in the 4th quarter.)

:texflag: :tv: enjoy the show!! :texflag:

01 and 0-6 miss the point that several other posters have mentioned---our
offense or lack there of began the last half of 2004, carried into the pre-
season, and now into 2005....friend, not even counting the preseason, thats
a lot of games but the board is getting kind of quiet so please don't stir
anything up :yahoo:

LBC_Justin
09-15-2005, 08:43 PM
I watched the game three times.

5 TURN OVERS and the Defense only gave up 1 touchdown, even though they looked exhaused in the second half and started giving up lots of run yardage.
Our Defense has only given up 2 touchdowns in the last 19 quarters of regular season play! We have a good Defense folks. We are going to win games. But our offense can't hand to ball over repeatedly in field goal range.)


I will refuse to jump on the band wagon and say that our entire team played without passion. If you saw the look on David Carrs face as he was running for his life, after countless missed blocks - that was passion. When he did have time, which wasn't very often, he played poorly. (Don't think I am defending him.) He need more consistent protection. He reminds me of someone with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, skakey and shell shocked.

I agree. We got crushed. We played even worse than the score showed. The coaches gave up on the team (base on their actions/decisions, not words). But we are still only 0-1. Yes it is time to be upset. But your missing the point. It is not time to give up, it is not time to call for the heads of all the coaches, players and mgmt.

My point...Lets not give up on the team, let's not give up on THIS group of GUYS and THIS group of COACHES, because this season they are all we got. Our O-line may let down the team. A defender may give up a key play. But let's not let them say the FANS gave up, or the FANS let down the team. I know the people on this board for the most part are hardcore and aren't going anywhere, and most of this has been venting (heck i have done it some this week too.), but lets make sure the people you go to the game with, and the casual fans around town and at the stadium don't give up on the team either.

In the words of the great George Michael:

"Well I guess it would be nice
If I could touch your body
I know not everybody
Has got a body like you

But I've got to think twice
Before I give my heart away
And I know all the games you play
Because I play them too

Oh but I
Need some time off from that emotion
Time to pick my heart up off the floor
And when that love comes down
Without devotion
Well it takes a strong man baby
But I'm showing you the door

'Cause I gotta have faith...
Mmm, I gotta have faith
'Cause I gotta have faith, faith,
Mm 'cause I gotta have faith-a-faith-a-faith

Baby
I know you're asking me to stay
Sayin' please, please, please, don't go away
You say I'm giving you the blues
Maybe
You mean every word you say
Can't help but think of yesterday
And another who tied me down to loverboy rules

Before this river
Becomes an ocean
Before you throw my heart back on the floor
Oh baby I reconsider
My foolish notion
Well I need someone to hold me
But I'll wait for something more

Yes I've gotta have faith...
Mmm, I gotta have faith
'Cause I gotta have faith, faith, faith,
Mm 'cause I gotta have faith-a-faith-a-faith"

:texflag:

Elite
09-15-2005, 11:21 PM
we are 0-1 but a lock to be 0-6 we do want a real qb dont we. well we better keep playing like we did last week but im not worried about it with carr at the helms we are for sure gonna get to 1 - 15 and the lock to draft
Matt LionHeart with the number one overall pick. :texflag:

infantrycak
09-16-2005, 12:22 AM
we are 0-1 but a lock to be 0-6 we do want a real qb dont we.

Waaaaa, David Carr stole my diaper I have to post the same thing every time....

Mongoose
09-16-2005, 12:55 AM
In the words of the great George Michael:

:texflag:

Er, 80's George Michael? Isn't that kind of, um, not Texan?

texanpride ?

Mongoose

HardKnockTexan
09-16-2005, 01:28 AM
we are for sure gonna get to 1 - 15 and the lock to draft
Matt LionHeart with the number one overall pick. :texflag:


Were you born in Southern California??

ANTI-FAN!!!

Ihategeeks
09-16-2005, 02:00 AM
0-2 for sure.

:goodnight

Elite
09-16-2005, 02:55 AM
Were you born in Southern California??

ANTI-FAN!!!

No but i was born in california but that has no bearing on my opinion.
just the Quality or the talent someone can bring to this team that need a true field general. to be honest with all of you i much rather have gus ferrot playing Qb.

Dime
09-16-2005, 09:45 AM
Believe it or not, I believe we are going to win this game.. Dunta will have his first INT and so will PBuc with one of them taking it to the house. Right now, the perception is that we are horrible right now. That might be true, but we can use that against a team who does not think we are on track. We will win this game. Btw, I think we will only have one TD from the offense, but also a TD from the Defense and quite a few jems from our field goal king.

Pittsburg: 14
Houston: 23

:texflag:

So say we all

Double Barrel
09-16-2005, 12:25 PM
I will refuse to jump on the band wagon and say that our entire team played without passion. If you saw the look on David Carrs face as he was running for his life, after countless missed blocks - that was passion.

The look I remember was when DC fumbled and just stood there...the ball rolling around...as he did nothing...almost like he just didn't want to jump into that dogpile...it was, to say the least, a bit disappointing as a fan to watch his lack of commitment to protecting that ball. He looked lost, really.

And the George Michael blast...ummmm...*cough*:loser*cough*...you might want to update that...I think someone like Limp Bizkit redid the song...still lame, IMO, but maybe more hip to the times. ;)

#1 Bills Fan
09-16-2005, 09:37 PM
Believe it or not, I believe we are going to win this game.. Dunta will have his first INT and so will PBuc with one of them taking it to the house. Right now, the perception is that we are horrible right now. That might be true, but we can use that against a team who does not think we are on track. We will win this game. Btw, I think we will only have one TD from the offense, but also a TD from the Defense and quite a few jems from our field goal king.

Pittsburg: 14
Houston: 23

:texflag:

So say we all
I'm not sure you'll win, but I agree that there's a certain element of surprise that the Texans are bringing into this game. The Steelers were hyped up for their opener. Every team is, but a week 2 matchup against a perceived-to-be-weak team might be enough to catch them emotionally and mentally unprepared. Right about now they may be looking at the Texans and saying "this should be a cakewalk. Our backups beat up on the Bills last year and the Bills crushed the Texans, so we should steamroll them"...But if the Texans come ready to play, it won't be that easy, and they could catch the Steelers napping.

I personally don't think the Texans are as bad as you all think. I think last week was more evidence of how good the Bills may be than how bad the Texans may be. For both our teams' sakes I hope I'm right.

Mongoose
09-17-2005, 01:33 AM
I'm not sure you'll win, but I agree that there's a certain element of surprise that the Texans are bringing into this game. The Steelers were hyped up for their opener. Every team is, but a week 2 matchup against a perceived-to-be-weak team might be enough to catch them emotionally and mentally unprepared. Right about now they may be looking at the Texans and saying "this should be a cakewalk. Our backups beat up on the Bills last year and the Bills crushed the Texans, so we should steamroll them"...But if the Texans come ready to play, it won't be that easy, and they could catch the Steelers napping.

I personally don't think the Texans are as bad as you all think. I think last week was more evidence of how good the Bills may be than how bad the Texans may be. For both our teams' sakes I hope I'm right.

If the Texans win, it won't be because the Steelers are caught looking the other way. The Steelers have a LOT to work on right now, and they know it. They beat up on the Titans, but the Titans handed over a lot of plays, too. There were some bright spots, like Willie Parker, but the team (and the coaching staff) don't seem to be real complacent right now.

The Texans are not facing a team ready to take the weekend off. The Steelers are working hard on improving their game, and they will most likely be eager to compete. Sorry, but it's too early in the year for a trap game. The Steelers are still dealing with angry coaches.

I think the Texans will want to get some pride back after last week, though, and the Steelers will be playing against a motivated team on Sunday.

Mongoose

pebblescds
09-17-2005, 01:56 AM
yeah, what's up with that?! Shouldn't the Colts be playing these teams at the beginning of their season!? idonno:

But good post. It does seem like one of the more demoralizing losses for fans...coming out of the gate flat and looking like a first year expansion team.

However, like you said, it's only one game, and it's not like we can't rebound. So I agree with you...at least until Monday (and that depends on how they play Sunday ;) )
:texans: I'm sorry I don't agree, if we were a team that had ever been over .500 I'd say yeah, its only one game. But we have never tasted real success or any level of consistency, unless you're gonna count winning one, losing one, or coming back at the end only to lose anyway, I guess techincally thats counts as a level of mundane consistency. Optimism is great, but not in this case, this raises a big loud alarm to those paying attention, Andre Johnson and David Carr. They are downright livid, frustrated, angry, and worried as they should be. A team that will make progress doesn't come out and lay an egg like that, and its not that they lost. Its that they didnt compete and looked unprepared and totally confused. I was most concerned with the play selection and offensive line play, it was atrocious. I would bet any of us playing Madden would've called a better game for them. Nothing has changed and the coaching staff isn't even on the same page with one another ie. off.coord. and head coach. If Dom wants to protect his job, and not "lose his players" he better strap on the headset on offense and call some dang on plays himself, because I see another 35-10 drubbing of the Texans on Sunday courtesy of the Steelers. Chris Palmer needs his head examined for blindness since he can't see the defense blizting his QB every down while he calls 7 step drops for 40 yard plays. I hope he gets stuck in traffic on Sunday... :bomb: oh yes...I went there.

pebblescds
09-17-2005, 02:24 AM
[QUOTE=Dime]Believe it or not, I believe we are going to win this game.. Dunta will have his first INT and so will PBuc with one of them taking it to the house. Right now, the perception is that we are horrible right now. That might be true, but we can use that against a team who does not think we are on track. We will win this game. Btw, I think we will only have one TD from the offense, but also a TD from the Defense and quite a few jems from our field goal king.

Pittsburg: 14
Houston: 23
I admire your optimism almost like the grandmother who plays the same lottery numbers every week, then watches the raffel turn to see if (when) shes won. NO WAY, not even a remote chance of a victory sorry guys. Bill Cohwer prepares his players, our coaches DO NOT. We may play more competitively and I use that term losely, but we won't have a frog hairs chance of actually winning. Carr is unsure of himself now, Dre and the other receivers are breaking off their routes or just not running them correctly at all, and there are no running holes. They've said since LAST NOVEMEBER mind you, that they were gonna 'make some changes, move guys around, take some shots, blitz more, be more aggressive' any of that sound familiar, it should since you heard it all last year, and now you're hearing it again. Nothing will change until something changes, and that will have to come from the front office or the owner. Heads have to roll when a team lays down for five games straight. And yes you count the pre season because you're evaluting your team, not on wins and losses, but style/play/ consistency. You may as well get used to the idea that this team/organization will not improve until some young blood coach injects it into the system. You notice all the younger coaches are getting effort outta their players??? They may not win the superbowl but they're out there playin/competing/laying it out there JAGUARS ANYONE? FALCONS? LIONS, Lions??? I am one of the few people who actually thinks the team isn't losing only because of DCarr IMO, its more complex than just him. The system has to support its QB, this one doesn't.

pebblescds
09-17-2005, 02:32 AM
I seem to remember the Texans looking a little slow and out of sync the first couple of games last year. I don't have them recorded, so I can't double check.
If so, I expect them to get it together by game 3.
Maybe a bye in week 3 ain't such bad a thing after all.
:texflag: I will eat my own words if thats the case, though I won't clear my plate just yet. I hope the coaches get it together, I hope the o-line plays better, I hope the defense get one sack, a pick, and a forced fumble, I pray that David has a 2 TD, no INT game w/ Dominick rushing for over a hundred yards and 1 TD, but I DON'T THINK SO.... :pigfly: maybe it will happen, I hope it does.

Vendetta, R.
10-20-2005, 04:02 PM
lol at the topic.


are we 0-1 or 0-6 :texflag:

Exascor
10-20-2005, 04:09 PM
lol Look a kitty kat troll!