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Khari
09-01-2005, 03:53 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/gameday/game_headers/preseason_4.jpg

:tv: Thurs. 9/1 6:30 p.m

http://www.houstontexans.com/gameday/games/game_p4.php

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20050901_HOU@TB

ccdude730
09-01-2005, 05:15 PM
why thursday? i work tonight!! :brickwall

just gonna have to record it for in the morning. i am looking forward to seeing ragone get alot of PT though!

Nawzer
09-01-2005, 05:27 PM
The important thing is that no one gets hurt tonight. Other than that it's the backups last chance to make an impression.

wrestler4life
09-01-2005, 06:43 PM
Well, keep the updates coming. I am in SoCal, and will not ba able to watch the game.

sprtsfanatic
09-01-2005, 07:27 PM
ditto...im in the valley and in wannabe cowgirl country...so updates and info on the Texans is MUCH NEEDED to keep my sanity.

Khari
09-01-2005, 07:30 PM
I'm sooooooooooo glad preseason is almost over :yahoo:

HardCoreTxn
09-01-2005, 07:36 PM
:texans: :texflag: !LETS GO TEXANS! :texflag: :texans:

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 07:40 PM
That was just sickening, its gonna be a long season if our offense continues this type of play.

Reddevil63
09-01-2005, 07:41 PM
That doesnt sound good...

HardCoreTxn
09-01-2005, 07:42 PM
3-0 TB :brickwall

texan279
09-01-2005, 07:43 PM
Think I am gonna go play Madden...

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 07:43 PM
That doesnt sound good...

Carr through an interception on his first pass of the game (i forgot some of you can't watch it, I'll try and be more detailed in my post.), trying to hit Bradford on a curl route...looked to me like Bradford turned the wrong way.

TigerBait
09-01-2005, 07:47 PM
Why is Corey just stopping on his routes? This is ugly.

texan279
09-01-2005, 07:47 PM
Johnson was open in the slot...

HardCoreTxn
09-01-2005, 07:47 PM
3 and out, Bradford screwed up again!

Nawzer
09-01-2005, 07:48 PM
Seems like Carr and his receivers don't have their timing down. That's important because if we're going to use the quick 3-step drop and throw. He has to have his timing with his receivers. Or maybe it was just a bad play...

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 07:49 PM
It's gotta be Bradford or Carr....my $$ is that it's Corey's fault.

HardCoreTxn
09-01-2005, 07:49 PM
Lets Go Defense!

TEXANS84
09-01-2005, 07:49 PM
Start Ragone!


Just kidding guys.

texan279
09-01-2005, 07:49 PM
seems to me Carr and Bradford don't have the timing down. Most of the badly missed passes were thrown to Bradford last week...Maybe the problem is Bradford...

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 07:51 PM
Good pressure by G-Funk there...tooo bad he couldn't get the sack.

HardCoreTxn
09-01-2005, 07:52 PM
It's gotta be Bradford or Carr....my $$ is that it's Corey's fault.
Carr is putting them where they need to be, looks like Bradford didnt study the playbook

Lucky
09-01-2005, 07:53 PM
Deja Vu all over again. Nobody can get a 1st down.

swisher
09-01-2005, 07:54 PM
The timing just looks way off on offense. Carr is throwing the ball in places he thinks a receiver is going to be...or the other way round.

TigerBait
09-01-2005, 07:55 PM
TB looks like us last week on ST.

ROYDESTROY
09-01-2005, 07:56 PM
It's gotta be Bradford or Carr....my $$ is that it's Corey's fault.

Carr looks poor as do the Wrs..OUCH :brickwall :pigfly:

Malloy
09-01-2005, 07:56 PM
TB, it's not about racking up as many penalty yards as possible :)

ROYDESTROY
09-01-2005, 07:57 PM
The timing just looks way off on offense. Carr is throwing the ball in places he thinks a receiver is going to be...or the other way round.

Bingo ...great point :)

Lucky
09-01-2005, 07:58 PM
Six penalties in the game's 1st 5 minutes.

swisher
09-01-2005, 07:59 PM
Good Lord.

TEXANS84
09-01-2005, 08:00 PM
My god, I think we have a quarterback problem.

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:00 PM
Our offense sucks like a Hoover!

HardCoreTxn
09-01-2005, 08:00 PM
int #2, now that one was on Carr

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 08:00 PM
There was alot of talk about Faggins coming along very well this offseasona nd that he may have had enough talent to be starting somewhere else, but after watching him this pre-season I am starting to think otherwise. He played horribly against Oakland and again this game doesn't seem to be doing good, but we may have an even bigger problem on our hands... David Carr just through his second interception in about 5 attempts...somebody should tell him the honeymoon is over, if he doesn't step up this season he can start packing. :brickwall

Reddevil63
09-01-2005, 08:02 PM
I cant see anything but it sounds like a carbon copy of last week. If this boils over into the reg. season, I want to see people gone.

Hervoyel
09-01-2005, 08:02 PM
Any ideas about what's going on with Carr? I've seen him do things before that I wondered about from time to time but I have to say that from last week to this week marks the first time I've seen him truly stink.

This is something I never even thought about losing sleep over. Tonight he bites.

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 08:03 PM
I cant see anything but it sounds like a carbon copy of last week. If this boils over into the reg. season, I want to see people gone.
looks worst than last week, except i haven't decided if our defense is doing good or if the Bucs offense is just trying to keep up with ours.

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:05 PM
C.C. didn't rotate into the flat..looked like a late read.

Lucky
09-01-2005, 08:07 PM
Thank you KTRK.

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:07 PM
and the ABC coverage misses a score as well!! :confused:

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 08:08 PM
There was alot of talk about Faggins coming along very well this offseasona nd that he may have had enough talent to be starting somewhere else, but after watching him this pre-season I am starting to think otherwise. He played horribly against Oakland and again this game doesn't seem to be doing good, but we may have an even bigger problem on our hands... Did you know that the long TD play in the Oakland game was CC Brown's fault??? Faggins was in underneath coverage and was suppose to have Brown up top but Brown never came...


Carr looks horrible against cover 2 again...but he always does the first time he goes up against it in a season.

Hervoyel
09-01-2005, 08:08 PM
KTRK is the perfect station to broadcast tonights game considering the way David's throwing the ball. You don't really want to see it.

So Ragone starts next week against Buffalo?

j/k

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:09 PM
At least our "other team" is doing well...Roy O. struck out the side in the 1st.

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:11 PM
and now for a bonehead penalty...

Fldvldog
09-01-2005, 08:11 PM
WOW! Carr is 0-3 , 2 picks?...

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 08:12 PM
Steve McKinney gets blown up...

Hervoyel
09-01-2005, 08:12 PM
Second and fifteen, run it up the middle again. Dom seems committed to the suck tonight.

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 08:12 PM
This run run pass, thing is realy not working for me.

Hervoyel
09-01-2005, 08:13 PM
WOW! Carr is 0-3 , 2 picks?...

He's working on topping that 5.7 QB rating he earned last week.

Dime
09-01-2005, 08:13 PM
umm... why are we watching a repeat of the dallas game... wait. I am sorry, it is the tampa bay game..

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:14 PM
For those that don't EVER see it, that was RUN-RUN on 1st-15 & 2nd-14. Gee, hard to figure out the next call, huh? Throw into double-coverageand pray you don't have your third pick in the quarter.

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 08:14 PM
If the ball touches your hands...it needs to be caught__________bottom line.

The Preacher
09-01-2005, 08:14 PM
Favre had 3 picks and a fumble last week and now he just fumbled to start the Tennessee game. I guess you wouldn't want him on your team either.
:hmmm:

Fldvldog
09-01-2005, 08:15 PM
He's working on topping that 5.7 QB rating he earned last week.

lol: If he does, the texans have a QB problem on their hands...

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 08:15 PM
Favre had 3 picks and a fumble last week and now he just fumbled to start the Tennessee game. I guess you wouldn't want him on your team either.
:hmmm:

At this stage in his career...no thank you.

vtech9
09-01-2005, 08:16 PM
I hate to say it, but this has me worried for the season.

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:16 PM
Favre had 3 picks and a fumble last week and now he just fumbled to start the Tennessee game. I guess you wouldn't want him on your team either.
:hmmm: As soon as Carr wins an MVP, I'll give him the same benefit of the doubt too.

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 08:18 PM
For those that don't EVER see it, that was RUN-RUN on 1st-15 & 2nd-14. Gee, hard to figure out the next call, huh? Throw into double-coverageand pray you don't have your third pick in the quarter. One word. Preseason.

Turn on the college football games...

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:19 PM
Somebody got a breakdown on the RUN/PASS ratio for that quarter? I didn't count more than 4 pass attempts.

Dime
09-01-2005, 08:19 PM
Favre had 3 picks and a fumble last week and now he just fumbled to start the Tennessee game. I guess you wouldn't want him on your team either.
:hmmm:

Probably the dumbest statement this thread... you win!

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 08:20 PM
Somebody got a breakdown on the RUN/PASS ratio for that quarter? I didn't count more than 4 pass attempts. Yes, lets expose Carr's backside to Rice.

Texas_Heat
09-01-2005, 08:20 PM
Like I said they should have started Ragone to see what he can do.

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:21 PM
Positive spin - The Texans are having a well-balanced game tonight.

:texflag:

Dime
09-01-2005, 08:21 PM
Positive spin - The Texans are having a well-balanced game tonight.

:texflag:

rofl.. good one...

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:22 PM
Yes, lets expose Carr backside to Rice. Using THAT logic -If we're only planning to hand off the ball, why have him in there at all? Why risk the injury?

The Preacher
09-01-2005, 08:22 PM
Sounds bad in TB I'm stuck watching the Titans here. I feel bad for Favre the titans are making them look silly. Pacman's at least interesting watching him botch two punt returns in a row was entertaining. Lucky for him the one the pack recovered got called back then he jumped on the other muff. He probably feels about like Carr does now. Unfortunately for pac he is at home and getting the boos.

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 08:22 PM
Probably the dumbest statement this thread... you win!

LMAO, thats what I'm talking about, we need more bluntness on these boards...its a free country...say what you want.

Hervoyel
09-01-2005, 08:23 PM
That was really bad. I mean really, really bad. It's easy to get all upset about it but honestly this is maybe the least important preseason game of all. The Texans look less than interested in playing it but that doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is that the Bucs don't look anymore interested than the Texans but they've put up 17 points. This is IMO an unacceptable effort from the team.

vtech9
09-01-2005, 08:24 PM
the way they are playing, the starters need to stay in the whole game so they can get the timing down.

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 08:25 PM
Using THAT logic -If we're only planning to hand off the ball, why have him in there at all? Why risk the injury? They want to see a few short completitions where he doesnt have the risk of getting hurt, but he is forcing the ball for one so those oppurtunities arent happening and on the last drive, we were and 1st and 15. D-Line would have been teeing off.


Without Davis in the backfield, Carr is forced to think cause he cannot dump it down to him.

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 08:25 PM
That was really bad. I mean really, really bad. It's easy to get all upset about it but honestly this is maybe the least important preseason game of all. The Texans look less than interested in playing it but that doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is that the Bucs don't look anymore interested than the Texans but they've put up 17 points. This is IMO an unacceptable effort from the team.

That shed a little light on my outlook, I appreciate it Hervoyel, I need that lol.

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:26 PM
This series, RUN-RUN-RUN-RUN. Please explain how this helps Carrs timing?

swisher
09-01-2005, 08:28 PM
What's the point of even have Carr out there again if that's what they are doing? It's not the hand offs he needs to work on.

Dime
09-01-2005, 08:29 PM
This series, RUN-RUN-RUN-RUN. Please explain how this helps Carrs timing? it does... how long does it take for Carr to be put on his back... grin

swisher
09-01-2005, 08:29 PM
Ok, third and seven....lets do something here.

swisher
09-01-2005, 08:29 PM
something OTHER than a false start.....

swisher
09-01-2005, 08:30 PM
something OTHER than ANOTHER false start....

Dime
09-01-2005, 08:30 PM
something OTHER than a false start.....

2 late... times 2

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:30 PM
something OTHER than a false start.....How about two in a row? :bomb:

vtech9
09-01-2005, 08:30 PM
Ok, third and seven....lets do something here.
how about 2 false starts?

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 08:31 PM
Just turn on the college football games people...

Dime
09-01-2005, 08:32 PM
Just turn on the college football games people...

What? and be labeled a fair weather fan... nope.. not doing it.. :crying:

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:32 PM
Just turn on the college football games people...Wow, the Coogs are up on the Ducks! 21-17

TexanAggie
09-01-2005, 08:32 PM
It's gotta be Bradford or Carr....my $$ is that it's Corey's fault.


My cash is on that pre-madonna CARR!!!!! Sure looks like a rook to me , throwing the ball down like a baby thats not a veteran QB and not bradfords fault......................




:texans:

vtech9
09-01-2005, 08:32 PM
at least Carr finally completed a pass...even though it was only for 4 yards to the RB on 3 & 17.

Hoss
09-01-2005, 08:34 PM
i'm listening to it on FP.and i can't belive this game!!!

Dime
09-01-2005, 08:36 PM
i'm listening to it on FP.and i can't belive this game!!!

dont worry.. its worse live...

Dime
09-01-2005, 08:37 PM
Wow.. did you see that hit faggins did.. that was a AWESOME hit... too bad it was to the back of Peek

The Preacher
09-01-2005, 08:38 PM
Probably the dumbest statement this thread... you win!

Did you have to go there I guess my overly optimistic sarcasm came off as insulting. My bad probably a wildly unfair comparison just saying bad stuff happens. Hope presaeason is just an anomaly. Latre

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 08:39 PM
Wow.. did you see that hit faggins did.. that was a AWESOME hit... too bad it was to the back of Peek
LoL, i saw that crap too, he knocked the crap out of him....the ref should have called a late hit and flagged his candy ***.

tsip
09-01-2005, 08:39 PM
One word. Preseason.

Turn on the college football games...

If we have the same result against the Bills what will the Battle Cry be?...

.......FIRST GAME

Khari
09-01-2005, 08:41 PM
oye ve :challenge

kbourda
09-01-2005, 08:41 PM
WOW. This game is UGLY. I know, I know, it's just the preseason but this is pathetic.

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 08:41 PM
If we have the same result against the Bills what will the Battle Cry be?...

.......FIRST GAME Then it will be time to worry if we lose like this. We could easily start off 0-2...

Dime
09-01-2005, 08:41 PM
Did you have to go there I guess my overly optimistic sarcasm came off as insulting. My bad probably a wildly unfair comparison just saying bad stuff happens. Hope presaeason is just an anomaly. Latre

24 to 0... in less then 25 minutes... insult them all ya want tonight... sigh...

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:42 PM
The well-balanced gameplan continues... We blow on BOTH sides of the ball.

Ihategeeks
09-01-2005, 08:42 PM
This thread is making me feel alot better about the Lions MNF thrasing.

:bomb:

Tough break guys, keep telling yourselves it's just preseason.

works for the rest of us.

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 08:42 PM
Who the hell is J.R. Russell and how and why did he just score and another TD on us....atleast its not the 1st team defense getting ate apart by Chris Simms. Thats a 21-0 skunk, somebody pause the game and lets run it back.

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:45 PM
and Banks keeps the beautiful passing game alive...

Hoss
09-01-2005, 08:45 PM
yeah i know it's pre but dude come on!!!!

Reddevil63
09-01-2005, 08:46 PM
We could easily start off 0-2...
And where do you think that comes from? Maybe these meaningless preseason games in which we look beyond terrible?

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 08:46 PM
I tossed the football around with a 17 year old girl today in gym class and her passes were more accurate than this crap these so called professionals are throwing.

Hoss
09-01-2005, 08:46 PM
bills are laughing their *** off at us...

Fldvldog
09-01-2005, 08:46 PM
I gotta' say it texan fans...

If I were you all, I would begin to feel worried...

*especially the QB situation...

Wolf
09-01-2005, 08:47 PM
From what I am reading, I am more concerned about the disclipline..

Dime
09-01-2005, 08:47 PM
My Gawd.... The Titans are going to be HORRIBLE this year, but I am wondering now if I am going to lose my bet with a guy that the Texans will win more games this year. thats scary.

Hoss
09-01-2005, 08:48 PM
not worried about carr as much as i am the whole gel of the team...

Dime
09-01-2005, 08:48 PM
I tossed the football around with a 17 year old girl today in gym class and her passes were more accurate than this crap these so called professionals are throwing.


Ahhh... you were making passes at a girl today huh.. heheh..

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 08:49 PM
I gotta' say it texan fans...

If I were you all, I would begin to feel worried...

*especially the QB situation...

I gotta say if I were you, I'd be scratching my *** and wondering how and why this same team not only swept you Jaguars last season, but shut you out on your home field. :texflag:

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 08:49 PM
And where do you think that comes from? Maybe these meaningless preseason games in which we look beyond terrible? No because we are playing Buffalo, who i think could come close to unseating the Patriots in the AFC East and Pittsburg, who is coming off a 15-1 season. I knew this when the schedule came out...

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 08:50 PM
I think we found our #2 reciever. :texflag:

Dime
09-01-2005, 08:50 PM
Beautitul Pass

Lucky
09-01-2005, 08:50 PM
That's what I'm talkin' about, Jabar!!!

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:50 PM
WOW, a bright spot! Gaffney looks ready to play.

Hoss
09-01-2005, 08:50 PM
good catch GAFF.!!!!

HardCoreTxn
09-01-2005, 08:50 PM
sweet one hander by Gaffney, at least someones paying attention

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 08:51 PM
See, when you throw the ball to Gaff, things happen. WHAT A CATCH!!!

But Gaff cant make things happen when Davis gets more passes his way then Gaff...

Texas_Heat
09-01-2005, 08:51 PM
From what I've seen this team is a 4-12 Team at best. :texflag:

kbourda
09-01-2005, 08:51 PM
helluva catch by Gaffney. Had shades of the Matt jones catch two weeks ago.

swisher
09-01-2005, 08:51 PM
We may be the worst preseason franchise in NFL history. I still have confidence that we will be fine when we start playing for real.

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 08:52 PM
Ahhh... you were making passes at a girl today huh.. heheh..
LoL, she coudl catch too... Hey I was just lloking over at this avatar and i though this would be funny.

Reinactment of Carr throwing the ball to Bradford: :tomato:

Hoss
09-01-2005, 08:55 PM
have to go for it!

Lucky
09-01-2005, 08:55 PM
Why did Morency run out of bounds 1 yard short of a 1st down?

Hoss
09-01-2005, 08:56 PM
:dunce:

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 08:57 PM
Wand looked like he was skating on ice out there on that last 4th down play...someone should give that boy a lesson on footwork.

Hoss
09-01-2005, 08:58 PM
You Have Got To Be Kidding Me!!!!

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 08:59 PM
Spencer Tillman critiqing Morency is kinda laughable too. :tv:

TexanAggie
09-01-2005, 09:00 PM
yet again 1 STINKING yard and we cant do it

Hoss
09-01-2005, 09:00 PM
yeah it is...

ledzeppelin229
09-01-2005, 09:00 PM
On the bright side...atleast Gaffney looks really good so far.

Hoss
09-01-2005, 09:02 PM
another flippin holding call

Lucky
09-01-2005, 09:02 PM
Gaffney is the only Texan that wants to play in this game. I want to see some guys playing like their jobs depend on it. I don't see 53 players I want on this team.

Boxscore
09-01-2005, 09:02 PM
Carr is not a very good QB. Tony Banks is better but not the answer. Capers and and Palmer have to go.

On the positive side, I am going to www.houstontexans.com to donate to the Katrina Red Cross Bob McNair matching fund. The Texans suck right now, but let's join Mr. Mcnair and try to match his $1M challenge from all of us He will match it. Let's Go Texan fans. I am going to contribute now.

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 09:03 PM
On the bright side...atleast Gaffney looks really good so far. This is Gaff, it's just he never sees the ball 5 times in a game because those balls go to Davis so yall dont see what he can do...

TexHorns
09-01-2005, 09:03 PM
Bradford looked like &*%$. I say cut him let Mathis have a shot.

Hoss
09-01-2005, 09:04 PM
:goodnight

ledzeppelin229
09-01-2005, 09:04 PM
This is Gaff, it's just he never sees the ball 5 times in a game...

Yea I know, I've always been a fan of his. More importantly, it's because this is the first contact he's really seen in awhile, so it's good to see him catching everything and holding up to the hits. The rest of the team, I don't want to think about it since I'm about to eat.

Hoss
09-01-2005, 09:06 PM
Carr is not a very good QB. Tony Banks is better but not the answer. Capers and and Palmer have to go.

On the positive side, I am going to www.houstontexans.com to donate to the Katrina Red Cross Bob McNair matching fund. The Texans suck right now, but let's join Mr. Mcnair and try to match his $1M challenge from all of us He will match it. Let's Go Texan fans. I am going to contribute now.
made mine at 6:00 props to you man if your going to make that donation!

Mr.Scarface
09-01-2005, 09:09 PM
Texans have looked horrible in every preseason. Just look at the playcalling.....it never good in the preseason.

I almost think its a ploy because they won 2 out of their first 3 opening games. You can see that they don't want to give their opening opponent anything to gameplan for.

nunusguy
09-01-2005, 09:10 PM
Don't you see, its all a ploy to get the Bills over confidant.

Texans Pride
09-01-2005, 09:10 PM
This game, last game, the game before that, everyone says "It's the preseason." Why is this an excuse? Plenty of teams are doing better than we our. Someone has to be last statistically, why does it have to be us? . . It is us in just about every preseason category so far.

We don't have a problem?

Call me a chicken little, I call you a freaking Homer.

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 09:15 PM
Just curious...some were poking fun at Carr earlier saying he's trying to beat his 5.7 passer rating from last week....did he make it?

scott
09-01-2005, 09:15 PM
from looking at the preseason performances maybe last season will be better than this one....carr's performance is horrible

Hoss
09-01-2005, 09:17 PM
is carr hurt?

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 09:18 PM
is carr hurt?
mentally or physically? :crying:

mac15
09-01-2005, 09:20 PM
J.R. Russell is actually a former teammate of Ragone's from U of L.

Hoss
09-01-2005, 09:20 PM
mentally or physically? :crying:
:heh: both

NoBullTexan
09-01-2005, 09:21 PM
It's gotta be Bradford or Carr....my $$ is that it's Corey's fault.

Well get money out sucker cause Bradford couldn't run the right route if he was on railroad tracks. Cut Bradford for good!!! Carr is throwing on timing and if Bradford truns the wrong way, or doesn't complete the route, it makes it look like Carr threw the wrong pass. Wrong!

The Preacher
09-01-2005, 09:21 PM
Call me a chicken little, I call you a freaking Homer.[/QUOTE]

This is what it's come too. Nice call

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 09:21 PM
Travis Johnson looked good on that last run play playing at what i thought was NT.

Hoss
09-01-2005, 09:21 PM
T.J. was a waste of a pick..IMO

NoBullTexan
09-01-2005, 09:23 PM
Good Grief judgments made during pre-season. My! My!

Hoss
09-01-2005, 09:23 PM
it figures that simms would wake up on this game!

tsip
09-01-2005, 09:26 PM
"You can see that they don't want to give their opening opponent anything to gameplan for."


....maybe thats why are timing is so bad---yeah, why get the timing down
in preseason when you can do it in games that count but--there is still
that problem of the next team getting something they can game plan for--
how do we deal with that when the season starts? :dontknowa

rmartin65
09-01-2005, 09:27 PM
Bradford looked like &*%$. I say cut him let Mathis have a shot.
i agree

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 09:27 PM
These dudes claim to be competing for roster spots paying atleast 6 figures...you'd think they would have some since of urgency to show their skills in this last preseason game...instead it looks like they're trying to make Capers job (cutting players) easier.

rmartin65
09-01-2005, 09:28 PM
is this really as ugly as it sounds? i just got back from practice...

Ihategeeks
09-01-2005, 09:29 PM
is this really as ugly as it sounds? i just got back from practice...

Worse.

:goodnight

ROYDESTROY
09-01-2005, 09:29 PM
Thank you KTRK.


Not a flame but you guys look horrible ...some major problems especially on offense leaves a lot of question to be sure.

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 09:29 PM
is this really as ugly as it sounds? i just got back from practice...
probably uglier than it sounds...I say get your gear together and lets go :fishing:

rmartin65
09-01-2005, 09:30 PM
yikes

Dime
09-01-2005, 09:30 PM
is this really as ugly as it sounds? i just got back from practice...
Dont watch .. it will only hurt...

31 - 0.. Nuff said

Lucky
09-01-2005, 09:32 PM
Down 31-0, what do you do? Run Tony Hollings twice, of course.

scott
09-01-2005, 09:32 PM
texans just walk off teh field and go home...terrible

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 09:33 PM
If Tony Hollings isn't cut...mark my words, i will hunt down and find out whoever's decision it was to keep him on the roster and slap them until my arm hurts.

Dime
09-01-2005, 09:33 PM
oh... btw folks.. we have not scored a offensive touchdown for 9 quarters btw...

midknight
09-01-2005, 09:33 PM
I don't understand something.. I know it's preseason.. but my God, why would you run the ball so much? you are down 31-0 now... THROW THE BALL!

Hoss
09-01-2005, 09:34 PM
Worse.

:goodnight
really bad.... :hide:

Dime
09-01-2005, 09:35 PM
I don't understand something.. I know it's preseason.. but my God, why would you run the ball so much? you are down 31-0 now... THROW THE BALL!
because when we do.. we throw it to the other team...

TexSon
09-01-2005, 09:35 PM
Ha ha... we are absolutely terrible.

midknight
09-01-2005, 09:35 PM
OMG! now their 3rd string quarterback is just lobbing touchdowns at us.. sheesh!

btw.. will someone please tell Dom Capers to close his mouth when he's on camera?

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 09:35 PM
I don't understand something.. I know it's preseason.. but my God, why would you run the ball so much? you are down 31-0 now... THROW THE BALL! running keeps the clock going, which means that the Texans get home sooner and have to do extra work...

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 09:36 PM
Whats the record for the biggest loss in a preseason game...?

LBC_Justin
09-01-2005, 09:36 PM
wow

I know it is just preseason but............. wow.

at some point you got to wonder how much of this is going to translate to regular season.

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 09:36 PM
Make that 38-0. This isn't embarassing, it's just SAD. I'm not looking forward to 9/11 @ Buffalo, that's for sure.

LBC_Justin
09-01-2005, 09:36 PM
Whats the record for the biggest loss in a preseason game...?
LOL i was actually just wandering that.

Hoss
09-01-2005, 09:36 PM
can't listen any more.... good night all...

midknight
09-01-2005, 09:37 PM
sheesh! I think i'm gonna go look at the cheerleader pictures!

Kaiser Toro
09-01-2005, 09:37 PM
I don't understand something.. I know it's preseason.. but my God, why would you run the ball so much? you are down 31-0 now... THROW THE BALL!

This may the best tactic of the night. Run out the clock and get home. :)

The Preacher
09-01-2005, 09:38 PM
Can't wait to see the fallout tomorrow after this one. :whistle:

Dime
09-01-2005, 09:38 PM
ok... now I... me... someone who feels the pre-season should not be at full speed.

We need to step this up. This is horrible... dont tell me this is just pre-season crap. Missed blocks, missed assignments... and putting the ball in the air or ground. This is UNACCEPTABLE! Dont tell me this is just pre-season crap.

scott
09-01-2005, 09:39 PM
maybe tampa will clap if we get a touchdown

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 09:39 PM
Can't wait to see the fallout tomorrow after this one. :whistle:

I'm looking forward to seeing the headlines in the paper tomorrow :drool: ...I think im gonna have some fun reading up on that.

Lucky
09-01-2005, 09:39 PM
Who is Will Heller? Third string on the Bucs, but he looks like a sure starter at TE for the Texans.

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 09:39 PM
maybe tampa will clap if we get a touchdown
H@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@!!!!!!! That would be a new one for me.

Reddevil63
09-01-2005, 09:40 PM
Make that 38-0. This isn't embarassing, it's just SAD. I'm not looking forward to 9/11 @ Buffalo, that's for sure.
Ok, that number right there total negates the whole "Its just preseason" argument. No NFL team preseason, regular season, pick up game whatever, should get totally manhandled like this.

The Preacher
09-01-2005, 09:42 PM
:goodnight Cougars are giving the Ducks a good game.

Vinny
09-01-2005, 09:43 PM
Time to play our fight song (http://dw.com.com/redir?ltype=sclip&siteid=31&edid=3&asId=2753012&astId=12&ptId=&ontid=7981&ttag=96119&lop=&orderId=&destURL=http%3A%2F%2Fsg1.allmusic.com%2Fcg%2Fsmp.d ll%3Flink%3D5zpfnc5zmgrt6vyvzvp1mpc%26z%3DMP3%26r% 3D20.asx) :texans:

Lucky
09-01-2005, 09:43 PM
If I see this Texans Hold 'Em crap once more I'll scream. More like Texans Fold 'Em tonight.

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 09:44 PM
maybe tampa will clap if we get a touchdown
guess we got boos instead..........lol.........H@@@@@@@@@, anouncer just said david carr could've learned a lesson from that one.

Dime
09-01-2005, 09:49 PM
If we dont keep sloan... we are crazy

scott
09-01-2005, 09:49 PM
o my lord texans put 7 on the board everybody please start dancing around the room and scream this truly is a dream come true!

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 09:55 PM
Good play by Travis, got the sack and forced fumble on that one...looks like we're in treat for a few bright spots in this second half.

The Preacher
09-01-2005, 09:58 PM
Rough night but nothing compared to what's going on down at the Astrodome and elsewhere. I can't even imagine....definitely puts things in perspective.

Errant Hothy
09-01-2005, 10:00 PM
Boys and girls it is offical...Tony Hollings is a BUST, needs to be cut later this week.

We cannot keep him just for special teams.

Add Bradford to the cut list.

Nad if S. Thomas is cut I'll pe pissed.

Texas_Heat
09-01-2005, 10:07 PM
Is It over Yet

:brickwall

vtech9
09-01-2005, 10:09 PM
Is It over Yet

:brickwall
did everyone give up on the highlights?

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 10:10 PM
Time to play our fight song (http://dw.com.com/redir?ltype=sclip&siteid=31&edid=3&asId=2753012&astId=12&ptId=&ontid=7981&ttag=96119&lop=&orderId=&destURL=http%3A%2F%2Fsg1.allmusic.com%2Fcg%2Fsmp.d ll%3Flink%3D5zpfnc5zmgrt6vyvzvp1mpc%26z%3DMP3%26r% 3D20.asx) :texans:
:yahoo: :dancing:

mac15
09-01-2005, 10:11 PM
I can keep you posted on this one, my man Ragone just got his 2nd TD

vtech9
09-01-2005, 10:11 PM
3-6-TB 18 (12:35) D.Ragone pass to D.Armstrong for 18 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

If Ragone brings us back, do any of you think Banks will be gone?

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 10:12 PM
If Ragone brings us back, do any of you think Banks will be gone? No, because Symons is hurt so we need another QB...

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 10:13 PM
Time to play our fight song (http://dw.com.com/redir?ltype=sclip&siteid=31&edid=3&asId=2753012&astId=12&ptId=&ontid=7981&ttag=96119&lop=&orderId=&destURL=http%3A%2F%2Fsg1.allmusic.com%2Fcg%2Fsmp.d ll%3Flink%3D5zpfnc5zmgrt6vyvzvp1mpc%26z%3DMP3%26r% 3D20.asx) :texans:

I really hope noone who's not a regular on this MB clicks that link and listens to that.

Boxscore
09-01-2005, 10:13 PM
I'm not going to read all of the above posts. My opinion is that David Carr is not the QB that he was drafted to be. I think that Tony Banks is a better QB at this point of a season that starts next week in Buffalo!

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 10:14 PM
I really hope noone who's not a regular on this MB clicks that link and listens to that. I liked it... :dancing: :bag:

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 10:18 PM
I liked it... :dancing: :bag:
Lol, the :bag: is funny as hell.

V Man
09-01-2005, 10:19 PM
On that last sack from Pettway, who was that #46 on the other side?

vtech9
09-01-2005, 10:22 PM
No, because Symons is hurt so we need another QB...
the 3rd string guy is usually a young QB to develope...Banks needs to go, and Ragone deserves to get his shot at the #2.

We do have Parsons right now, and we could bring in another young guy to develope. IMHO, Banks is done.

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 10:22 PM
24 yard run by Hollings...

Errant Hothy
09-01-2005, 10:23 PM
I'm not going to read all of the above posts. My opinion is that David Carr is not the QB that he was drafted to be. I think that Tony Banks is a better QB at this point of a season that starts next week in Buffalo!

Please, all that is Holy, No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If it's anybody, not that is should be, it should be Ragone.

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 10:24 PM
24 yard run by Hollings...
it was a fluke...his next play looked like he lost 2 yards.

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 10:26 PM
it was a fluke...his next play looked like he lost 2 yards. He is averaging 4 yards a carry

vtech9
09-01-2005, 10:29 PM
He is averaging 4 yards a carry
RIIIIIGGHHHTTT.....7 CARRIES FOR 8 YARDS AND ONE CARRY FOR 24 YARDS...THAT IS A GOOD AVERAGE...NOT

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 10:31 PM
RIIIIIGGHHHTTT.....7 CARRIES FOR 8 YARDS AND ONE CARRY FOR 24 YARDS...THAT IS A GOOD AVERAGE...NOT
LMAO...he pulled that all caps on you Fiddy....you gonna go out like that?

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 10:31 PM
RIIIIIGGHHHTTT.....7 CARRIES FOR 8 YARDS AND ONE CARRY FOR 24 YARDS...THAT IS A GOOD AVERAGE...NOT :D

Positives people, positives...

disaacks3
09-01-2005, 10:32 PM
OMG - It's the All-World Preston Parsons coming in..... :rofl:

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 10:33 PM
:D

Positives people, positives...
LOL, you people are killing me tonight....This might have been a horrible game to watch, but i got some good laughs out of some of these post you guys put up tonight....keep them coming.

Lucky
09-01-2005, 10:33 PM
Parsons will rally the team to victory. Mock...er, mark my words.

Ihategeeks
09-01-2005, 10:33 PM
LMAO...he pulled that all caps on you Fiddy....you gonna go out like that?

It's ON!

http://itzhanson.nease.net/page/400width/805_image_07.jpg

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 10:37 PM
It's ON!

http://itzhanson.nease.net/page/400width/805_image_07.jpg

You going to be in my posse that takes down vtech9 and his???

Errant Hothy
09-01-2005, 10:39 PM
You going to be in my posse that takes down vtech9 and his???

As long as I can SERVE somebody, I'm down wit it.

Wolf
09-01-2005, 10:39 PM
:D

Positives people, positives...

I could hear Dave Attell when I read that

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 10:43 PM
OMG - It's the All-World Preston Parsons coming in..... :rofl:
Well......I've got some good news and some bad news.... he just threw a Touchdown (They took it away, but it was still a nice catch) and ofcourse, i saved a few dollars on my car insurance....bad news=he threw the ball to the wrong team and he cant tackle

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 10:44 PM
I could hear Dave Attell when I read that
LMAO, i still cant stop laughing at that post....I might even change it to my signature.

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 10:45 PM
As long as I can SERVE somebody, I'm down wit it. Yeah, dat's what i'm talkin about homeboy!!!

What now vtech, you going to pull those all caps again???

Lucky
09-01-2005, 10:46 PM
Very classy move by Chucky Gruden trying to run up the score in a preseason game.

AndreJ
09-01-2005, 10:47 PM
Yeah, dat's what i'm talkin about homeboy!!!

What now vtech, you going to pull those all caps again???

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, he called you out vtech, i bet you wont do it again...You dont want beef wit fiddy and the South Park Unit...you'll get "served".

Ihategeeks
09-01-2005, 10:50 PM
I'm down, I'm hip, I'm with it.

Laying down funk so hot you can't kick it.

vtech9
09-01-2005, 10:54 PM
Yeah, dat's what i'm talkin about homeboy!!!

What now vtech, you going to pull those all caps again???
ONLY WHEN I HIT THE CAPS LOCK WHEN TRYING TO HIT THE SHIFT KEY...JUST TOO LAZY TO RETYPE....LOOKED GOOD IN ALL CAPS ANYWAY

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 10:55 PM
ONLY WHEN I HIT THE CAPS LOCK WHEN TRYING TO HIT THE SHIFT KEY...JUST TOO LAZY TO RETYPE....LOOKED GOOD IN ALL CAPS ANYWAY You a brave man...

And total greatness from Ihategeeks...

vtech9
09-01-2005, 10:59 PM
You a brave man...

And total greatness from Ihategeeks...
I got it like that Fiddy...that's the way I roll :tomato:

Texans Pride
09-01-2005, 11:06 PM
Very classy move by Chucky Gruden trying to run up the score in a preseason game.


Are we going to go back to this argument again? If we don't want teams to run up the score on us then we should stop them.

I know, it's preseason.

HowBoutThemCowboys!
09-01-2005, 11:20 PM
lol, this thread is hilarious.

TrueFan1
09-01-2005, 11:23 PM
Pathetic display tonight, the best play by David Carr was spiking the ball in disgust. It would have been better to throw the ball at the entire o-line. Everyone on both sides of the ball seemed as if they had no desire to play football. If that is there attitude then I would rather watch an entire season of 2nd and 3rd stringers who want the job and have the desire to win. That was evident by the performance of Ragone and Swinton and several others towards the end of the game.

Fiddy
09-01-2005, 11:26 PM
Pathetic display tonight, the best play by David Carr was spiking the ball in disgust. It would have been better to throw the ball at the entire o-line. Everyone on both sides of the ball seemed as if they had no desire to play football. If that is there attitude then I would rather watch an entire season of 2nd and 3rd stringers who want the job and have the desire to win. That was evident by the performance of Ragone and Swinton and several others towards the end of the game. Forget the game. Read the thread. Have a laugh. Be happy. Listen to our new fight song: http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showpost.php?p=156929&postcount=189 :dancing:

WWJD
09-01-2005, 11:31 PM
Very classy move by Chucky Gruden trying to run up the score in a preseason game.


You know it's interesting you said that. Somebody called 610 the other day with the question of "what if" Capers lost his job. The consensus was that Gruden would be high on the Texans wish list as their next coach. I don't know their reasoning in thinking that..if he's on the hot seat in Tampa or what..but his name was tossed around as a top of the list guy.

rdbrem
09-02-2005, 12:48 AM
Don't you guys get it? They're trying to figure out who should return kicks, and the best way to do that is to give the other teams a lot of touchdowns. Isn't it obvious? It's brilliant.....

:texans:

And that's my head after somebody slapped it.

texan279
09-02-2005, 12:56 AM
Positives people, positives...

Only positives I saw all night was Travis Johnson, Ragone, and Sloan Thomas...other than that nothing to get excited about...

Lucky
09-02-2005, 01:25 AM
Are we going to go back to this argument again?
There's no argument. Take a knee and end this preseason without getting anyone hurt.

Vinny
09-02-2005, 01:33 AM
Only positives I saw all night was Travis Johnson, Ragone, and Sloan Thomas...other than that nothing to get excited about...Gaffney gets no respect...even from our fan base. He will never catch what isn't thrown to him.
:challenge

texan279
09-02-2005, 01:42 AM
Gaffney gets no respect...even from our fan base. He will never catch what isn't thrown to him.

I respect him Vinny, just didn't watch much of the first half after Carr's 1st pass was picked off...

Vinny
09-02-2005, 01:51 AM
Just like last year....Gaffney got clutch first downs and caught everything thrown his way. He had a great night. He gets no respect for some reason....I think because everyone keeps apologizing for Carr non-stopů.they gotta blame something.

texan279
09-02-2005, 01:53 AM
Just like last year....Gaffney got clutch first downs and caught everything thrown his way. He had a great night.

I knew he had a good night just from checking his stats...just didn't want to post it as a positive that I saw that I actually didn't see...

Ihategeeks
09-02-2005, 01:53 AM
Pathetic display tonight, the best play by David Carr was spiking the ball in disgust. It would have been better to throw the ball at the entire o-line. Everyone on both sides of the ball seemed as if they had no desire to play football. If that is there attitude then I would rather watch an entire season of 2nd and 3rd stringers who want the job and have the desire to win. That was evident by the performance of Ragone and Swinton and several others towards the end of the game.

Told you Swinton was an alright role player :)

touttail
09-02-2005, 07:11 AM
WHAT HAPPENED???
Our offense looked good the first two pre-season games, driving the ball down the field the first series.
Now it's interception or 3 and out.
Coach Capers had that "deer in the headlight look". He seemed to not have a clue of the situation. I understand that TB has a good "D", but we should at least showed up for the game.

I wonder if something is going on in the locker room that we don't know about, being they have done an about face.

Bobby 119C idonno:

TexanAggie
09-02-2005, 07:41 AM
If Tony Hollings isn't cut...mark my words, i will hunt down and find out whoever's decision it was to keep him on the roster and slap them until my arm hurts.



AMEN BROTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hollings needs to go go go go go go, Matt Stevens of the offense......................

TexanAggie
09-02-2005, 08:04 AM
Pathetic display tonight, the best play by David Carr was spiking the ball in disgust. It would have been better to throw the ball at the entire o-line..


Let me see how many times did carr get sacked or did he have to run for his life. I think the O-line looked great compared to past lines

BigBull17
09-02-2005, 08:28 AM
Don't you guys get it? They're trying to figure out who should return kicks, and the best way to do that is to give the other teams a lot of touchdowns. Isn't it obvious? It's brilliant.....

:texans:

And that's my head after somebody slapped it.

That is TOOO funny!

nunusguy
09-02-2005, 09:13 AM
Just like last year....Gaffney got clutch first downs and caught everything thrown his way. He had a great night.
Gaff looked great ! That over-the-shoulder one hander was spectacular !
Guess that's one positive thing from the game last night, knowing Gaff will be ready to go for the season opener in Buffalo.

Blake
09-02-2005, 10:54 AM
I called it yesterday in another thread.

I think tonights game is going to be ugly. We seem to get our tail whipped against the Bucs. Im guessing 17 to 34 Bucs.

http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showthread.php?p=156529#post156529

I gave the bucs 34 points, and they shot over it.