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axman40
08-22-2005, 01:34 PM
I hope we will see the 1st team for at least the first half.
:texans:

wags
08-22-2005, 01:52 PM
I hope we see the first team offense for a quarter or so. We need those guys healthy, because we have a dramatic drop from first to second team. As far as the defense goes if they struggle again I'm sure Dom will leave them in the entire half.

JDizzle
08-22-2005, 02:10 PM
You'll see the starters longer as the preseason nears an end and players are cut. Nobody wants to see a preseason injury go down, but you've got to get these guys ready for a full game of football come Sunday afternoons.

Hervoyel
08-22-2005, 02:14 PM
This is the preseason game where the first team will be out there the longest. For the final game the starters will barely see the field. That's when they try and make sure nobody important gets lost to an injury. This week is the closest to a real game that we'll get until Buffalo.

Nice to the see the Cowboys scheduled this week.

utahmark
08-22-2005, 06:06 PM
i remember when the oilers used to play their starters the whole game the last week of preseason. guess times have changed.

swisher
08-22-2005, 07:24 PM
yeah, I seemed to remember that too. It seemed like the last preseason game was as close to a real game as you would get.

edo783
08-22-2005, 11:32 PM
Teams used to play their 1st squads at least 3/4 in the last game. Now they use the next to last for that and the last one is the final look at guys before they do the last cuts.

AmarilloTexan
08-23-2005, 04:20 PM
Post your comments and predictions here about the Cowboys Texans Game coming up next week :texflag:

Texans86
08-23-2005, 04:27 PM
Of course we are going to shut them out just like last year. They probably haven't gotten any better and I'm sure we have.

Actually it will probably be closer, but I think the Texans have the slight edge. Just to throw out numbers, 17-14 Texans.

Marcus
08-23-2005, 04:52 PM
This is the preseason game where the first team will be out there the longest.

Well . . . that being the case . . . would it be too much to ask (and YES, I KNOW it's preseason, and YES, I KNOW there won't be any exotic blitz packages) . . . again, would it be too much to ask the defense to least show any sort of a hint, or give some kind of tiniest indication that they are able to rush the passer . . . against a 33 year old drop-back QB with a suspect O-line?

Naaaaaaa . . . I guess that would be too much to ask. :rolleyes:

Big B Texan Fan
08-23-2005, 05:12 PM
Game 3 in the pre-season is usually the game where the 1st team plays through the half and one series into the 3rd quarter.

TEXANS84
08-23-2005, 05:19 PM
Make sure all you guys look for the LARGE Texans gathering in the side endzone over the visitors tunnel.

We will be representing very well for that game.

ATX
08-23-2005, 05:40 PM
This game should be all about kicking Cowboy ***.

Crank_It_Up
08-23-2005, 05:57 PM
Well . . . that being the case . . . would it be too much to ask (and YES, I KNOW it's preseason, and YES, I KNOW there won't be any exotic blitz packages) . . . again, would it be too much to ask the defense to least show any sort of a hint, or give some kind of tiniest indication that they are able to rush the passer . . . against a 33 year old drop-back QB with a suspect O-line?

Naaaaaaa . . . I guess that would be too much to ask. :rolleyes:Actually, I predict a bit of pressure against the cowgirls, but that will only get our hopes up for the decimation in buffalo in a few weeks

Doom Capers
08-23-2005, 10:20 PM
Julius Jones will run all over us....

texanfan2002114
08-24-2005, 12:32 AM
Julius Jones will run all over us....

Why do you sound so confident about our defense??

texan279
08-24-2005, 12:52 AM
Julius Jones does not worry me, it's the cowgirls defense. They had one hell of a draft and have put together quite a defense. It should be a good test for our first team offense.

TexHorns
08-24-2005, 06:23 AM
Post your comments and predictions here about the Cowboys Texans Game coming up next week :texflag:

My pediction is that we will win by a historical margin with only our third string in the game and the cowgirls will be so ashamed that they will pack up and move to southern Oklahoma where they will start their new lives as gerbil ranchers.

...or we will do really good against their passing game so they will resort to running more. Then our offense will pick them apart with DD, Morency and the passing game. Final score 24-7 Texans win.

edo783
08-24-2005, 10:27 AM
We had better have some help over on the left side for the LT to block Ware (an RB and TE???), or David will be spending a lot of time on the ground. If we hold him out of the back field, we should do pretty well against the cowpies. If not, it will be a long night.

cuppacoffee
08-24-2005, 10:38 AM
If we beat the boys we will be thumping our chests and saying "alright". :fans:

If the boys beat us their trolls will be here saying "scoreboard".

Then in two weeks the real games start and this game will mean zilch, nada except to the guys who played themselves into or out of a place on the team.

It will be fun to watch the Texans thump :boxing: some cowboy arse though.

Crank_It_Up
08-24-2005, 10:43 AM
i don't care if it is only preseason, dallas losing is always a treat for me :drool:

Davis37
08-24-2005, 11:20 AM
I'm confident that we will still have the bragging rights for the year after this game. I do have to admit that this is the toughest Cowboy team we've had to face. I sure hope that Carr has on his "magic shoes" come game time cause Ware is gonna be all over him. Ill be watching for a glimpse of our new blitz packages that Capers is installing. Hopefully we can get a decent pass rush when just our linemen when we go to nickel and dime def. Considering that Bledsoe is going to behind center and the Cowgirls have a shaky line in the first place. I wanna see if TJ can bring the pressure that we need when we drop into zone defenses. Well im ready for the game to start already... :drool:

nunusguy
08-24-2005, 12:46 PM
Here's a suggestion for you guys that are all steamed up about playing
the Cowboys Saturday - get yourself a secondary team to support in the
NFC East. I want you to continue to passionatly support the Texans and
keep them as your favorite team as I will. But if beating the Cowboys is that important to you, you can also support the Eagles, Redskins, or Giants and route for a team to beat the Cowboys because they'll be playing them twice every year, and both games count ! The Texans have some more individual player evaluation to complete but to the team, this game Saturday is only significant to the Texans if somebody important on the team gets hurt and nobody here wants that. But the real season and important games do start soon now - in September.

Texans Fan
08-24-2005, 12:53 PM
According to Capers, this is the game that the starters will play the most and they will also game plan as well.

The last game against TB the starters will probably see very little time.

:texans:

TexanFanInCC
08-24-2005, 02:03 PM
Did the game with tampa Bay get cancelled? :cool:

no i dont think so. in the tampa game, the first team proly gets just two possessions, then its bench players bc its the last game b4 major cuts take place. in the dallas game, i really need to see a legitimate pass rush. i sure as heck do not want to see bledsoe bomb nearly 200 yards on our 1st team defense like collins did.

nunusguy
08-24-2005, 03:17 PM
According to Capers, this is the game that the starters will play the most and they will also game plan as well.
The last game against TB the starters will probably see very little time.

Every year all teams (not just the Texans), play their starters more in the
next to the last preseason game than any of the others. And most every year I fail to see a positive correlation between team intensity, focus, and
execution between preseason games (any of them), and when the regular season kickoffs in September. You watch the difference between how the veterans, the mainstays of the team play this weekend and compare it to the opener in Buffalo - it'll be like night and day.

rmartin65
08-24-2005, 05:16 PM
i really need to see a legitimate pass rush.

has pettway played yet? i watched him in college and he was a pretty commanding player. he played lb and de in college so he should be a good pass rusher. i just want to see him get the chance. :)

Marcus
08-24-2005, 05:23 PM
You watch the difference between how the veterans, the mainstays of the team play this weekend and compare it to the opener in Buffalo - it'll be like night and day.

:ok: So, you're telling me that if the defense is unable to get any sort of pressure on Bledsoe on Saturday night, it won't be anything to worry about? :fishing:

LosmanEvansMcGahee
08-24-2005, 05:25 PM
I hope you guys SMASH the Cowgirls. Not to mention the Statue...

Master Po
08-24-2005, 05:42 PM
I, for one, am already tired of hearing about DeMarcus Freaking Ware. Some of you guys speak of him like he's already LT in his prime. Is he going to be a good, and possibly great, player in this league? Probably. Did he have an impressive preseason game against Seattle? Yes. But take a deep breath...geez. A sack/fumble and a pick (on a play where Hass locked on to that TE and threw a bad pass) in a preseason game does not make him a first ballot Hall of Famer. (Or maybe I just HATE the Cowboys. Sorry for the rant.)

rmartin65
08-24-2005, 06:10 PM
i cant wait to see mathis with the first team offence.

lsmoreno56
08-24-2005, 06:37 PM
My prediction will be Texans 23 - Cowboys 10. No particular reason, just can't stand the Cowboys.

Buzz
08-24-2005, 07:15 PM
if beating the Cowboys is that important to you, you can also support the Eagles, Redskins, or Giants and route for a team to beat the Cowboys because they'll be playing them twice every year, and both games count

That's one of the reasons I've been an Eagles fan for years- because I hate the Cowboys, and it bugged me to see them in the Super Bowl a while back.

Another thing- I've always disliked Bledsoe and Parcells, so it would be great to see our team make them both look bad.

Tedc
08-24-2005, 07:19 PM
I liked the Eagles when they had Joe Walsh.

wags
08-24-2005, 07:45 PM
I liked the Eagles when they had Joe Walsh.

Wasn't Jackson Browne their QB before they drafted Don Henley?

Hervoyel
08-24-2005, 08:18 PM
Wasn't Jackson Browne their QB before they drafted Don Henley?


You're thinking of Glenn Frey. Jackson Browne is the guy who took Steely Dan's job with the Cardinals when Steely got hurt.

Crank_It_Up
08-25-2005, 12:21 AM
"Bill I know I said you could coach, but when we play the Texans this weekend, I have some plays I'd like you to start out with ok"?

http://www.siegler.net/cowboys/images/2003/0811noway.jpg

Crank_It_Up
08-25-2005, 12:43 AM
http://www.siegler.net/cowboys/images/2003/capt.1060480145.cardinals_cowboys_pns102.jpg
"It wasn't my idea to get rid of you, the devil made me do it...please come back, please, please, please!!! I'll double your salary, well, err, I mean I'll make sure you get paid under the table".

DFAN
08-25-2005, 02:10 AM
Julius Jones does not worry me, it's the cowgirls defense. They had one hell of a draft and have put together quite a defense. It should be a good test for our first team offense.



Dont count on it. It's a new D and still a lot of growing pains to go threw.

DFAN
08-25-2005, 02:15 AM
Here's a suggestion for you guys that are all steamed up about playing
the Cowboys Saturday - get yourself a secondary team to support in the
NFC East. I want you to continue to passionatly support the Texans and
keep them as your favorite team as I will. But if beating the Cowboys is that important to you, you can also support the Eagles, Redskins, or Giants and route for a team to beat the Cowboys because they'll be playing them twice every year, and both games count ! The Texans have some more individual player evaluation to complete but to the team, this game Saturday is only significant to the Texans if somebody important on the team gets hurt and nobody here wants that. But the real season and important games do start soon now - in September.


LOL!!!!!!!!!!

DFAN
08-25-2005, 02:24 AM
The big Tuna hang' his hat on preseason wins... Dom could
care less.. He's checking what. how and when to use his
players.. :cool:


Where did you get that from. They did not game plan at all against the Cards. Bledsoe even came to the sidlines and told BP that they had Glenn deep. BP told him he knew that but that's not what he's trying to do. They game planned a little against Sea. and BP said it will be less against the Texans.

There is a lot of things he needs to check out which is why I believe the Texans starters will out play the Cowboys. Watch the Cowboys D in the 1st half and see the amount of players coming in and out. They'll probally rotate RT's as well.

I see a lot of people talking about Ware and the D. Remember its a new D they are learning. Ware had one good game. Our LB's were horrible in pass coverage besides the one INT from Ware. Seattle picked them apart. If it wasn't for Ware it would had been ugly. I dought Ware will avg 2 sacks and 1 INT a game. I hope he does but it wont happen.


BTW. All coaches want to win. It's just a matter of winning and seeing what you have. Sometimes the winning gets sacrisfised.

ATX
08-25-2005, 04:38 AM
http://www.siegler.net/cowboys/images/2003/capt.1060480145.cardinals_cowboys_pns102.jpg


"hey jerry, why don't you kiss my hall of fame ***."

texan279
08-25-2005, 07:20 AM
Dont count on it. It's a new D and still a lot of growing pains to go threw.

DeMarcus Ware had 3 tackles, a sack, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery, and an interception himself last week against Seattle.

Davis37
08-25-2005, 09:04 AM
http://www.siegler.net/cowboys/images/2003/capt.1060480145.cardinals_cowboys_pns102.jpg

They were finishing up their "secret deal" for next season. Emmit is going to come in and play QB for the Cowboys after Bledsoe gets booted. :tv:

cuppacoffee
08-25-2005, 11:02 AM
"Bill I know I said you could coach, but when we play the Texans this weekend, I have some plays I'd like you to start out with ok"?

http://www.siegler.net/cowboys/images/2003/0811noway.jpg

" And please protect me from that mean ole G Walker this year".

bckey
08-25-2005, 11:34 AM
DeMarcus Ware had 3 tackles, a sack, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery, and an interception himself last week against Seattle.


That sounds like a whole season from Babin and Peek :tomato:

DFAN
08-25-2005, 11:43 AM
That sounds like a whole season from Babin and Peek :tomato:


Dont get me wrong I'm excited but it is a preseason game. He did nothing against the Cards.

TexansTrueFan
08-25-2005, 07:09 PM
i cant wait to see what they look like playing more than one series, so far in the first 2 pre-season games we have drove all the way down, once stopped on 4th and goal and the next we scored. We have been moving the ball very well !

TexansTrueFan
08-25-2005, 07:11 PM
i cant wait to see what they look like playing more than one series, so far in the first 2 pre-season games we have drove all the way down, once stopped on 4th and goal and the next we scored. We have been moving the ball very well ! And its the Cow boys i'm sorry folks but as far is pre season goes it doesnt get much better than this !

Marcus
08-25-2005, 07:41 PM
DeMarcus Ware had 3 tackles, a sack, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery, and an interception himself last week against Seattle.

Anyone know what Derrick Johnson has done the last 2 preseason games?

This oughta be good! lol:

DFAN
08-25-2005, 08:50 PM
i cant wait to see what they look like playing more than one series, so far in the first 2 pre-season games we have drove all the way down, once stopped on 4th and goal and the next we scored. We have been moving the ball very well ! And its the Cow boys i'm sorry folks but as far is pre season goes it doesnt get much better than this !


I look for the Texans to move the ball very well against the Cowboys.

Crank_It_Up
08-25-2005, 09:54 PM
DFAN, FYI the image on your sig will show if you correct the last image tag by moving the / in front of img instead of after.

Khari
08-25-2005, 10:10 PM
i'm being stalked by cowboy fans on another board who want to bet on preseason games :ok: :crying: :rolleyes:

Crank_It_Up
08-25-2005, 10:14 PM
i'm being stalked by cowboy fans on another board who want to bet on preseason games :ok: :crying: :rolleyes:tell them to save their money, they can use it to bail out their favorite players

DFAN
08-25-2005, 10:58 PM
i'm being stalked by cowboy fans on another board who want to bet on preseason games :ok: :crying: :rolleyes:



Bet on a preseason game? Never done that before.

DFAN
08-25-2005, 10:58 PM
DFAN, FYI the image on your sig will show if you correct the last image tag by moving the / in front of img instead of after.


Thanks. I've actually been meaning to take that off anyways.

rmartin65
08-26-2005, 05:27 PM
Bet on a preseason game? Never done that before.
talk about a way to lose money. reg. season games are unpredictable enough

DFAN
08-26-2005, 05:53 PM
talk about a way to lose money. reg. season games are unpredictable enough


No kidding. I put $20 on every Cowboy game in 2002 with a buddy of mine. They went 5-11. The next year he wanted to do it again and I wouldn't do it. They went 10-6. Last year I did it again. They went 6-10. So this year I'm not going to do it and hopefully they'll have a good season. Although I did put $100 on them finishing above .500.

Davis37
08-26-2005, 06:11 PM
I think with their new players on def they might make the playoffs this year. But thats just cause they are in the NFC...

HJam72
08-26-2005, 06:20 PM
No kidding. I put $20 on every Cowboy game in 2002 with a buddy of mine. They went 5-11. The next year he wanted to do it again and I wouldn't do it. They went 10-6. Last year I did it again. They went 6-10. So this year I'm not going to do it and hopefully they'll have a good season. Although I did put $100 on them finishing above .500.

Hey!!! If you bet against the Texans in every game, they'll win the Super Bowl!!!



:texflag:

BigDTexansFan
08-26-2005, 06:21 PM
Well . . . that being the case . . . would it be too much to ask (and YES, I KNOW it's preseason, and YES, I KNOW there won't be any exotic blitz packages) . . . again, would it be too much to ask the defense to least show any sort of a hint, or give some kind of tiniest indication that they are able to rush the passer . . . against a 33 year old drop-back QB with a suspect O-line?

Naaaaaaa . . . I guess that would be too much to ask. :rolleyes:


We should put up sign says RT this way to QB, as they dropped 2nd round choice from 2004 and also have 2 guys who make Seth Wand look like a Pro Bowl Tackle

BigDTexansFan
08-26-2005, 06:22 PM
Post your comments and predictions here about the Cowboys Texans Game coming up next week :texflag:


In the words of Mr. T. " my prediction is PAIN", for Cowboys fans and their team. Texans once again show big D who is the class NFL team in Texas :yahoo:

DFAN
08-26-2005, 06:25 PM
Hey!!! If you bet against the Texans in every game, they'll win the Super Bowl!!!



:texflag:



LOL!! No. I did last year and it didnt work.

I betted against them though. If you want I can bet for them and maybe it will work. You have to back the money though.LOL!

DFAN
08-26-2005, 06:29 PM
I think with their new players on def they might make the playoffs this year. But thats just cause they are in the NFC...



I think people are putting to much into the new players. There will be some major growing pains in learning the 3-4.

Davis37
08-26-2005, 06:40 PM
I think people are putting to much into the new players. There will be some major growing pains in learning the 3-4.

I agree that they might start a little slow, but they have made some key additions. You also gotta remember that the 3-4 is Parcell's forte.

DFAN
08-26-2005, 06:44 PM
I agree that they might start a little slow, but they have made some key additions. You also gotta remember that the 3-4 is Parcell's forte.


Very true. I think by wk 6,7 or maybe 8 will be fine. I just hope we can pull out some wins until that point. If they can play .500 ball until the half way point, I think they will have a outside shot at making the playoffs. ONLY becasue they are in a weak NFC. No way they could do it in the AFC.


Dont know if you watch the Seattle game but they were killing them in the middle of the field and that is from the LB's learning coverage in 3-4. If it wasnt for Ware they might had scored on all their positions. Cant count on him having a game like that every game. Although it would be nice. LOL!!

Buzz
08-26-2005, 06:44 PM
With the players they have on D, and the new QB, people are ranking them anywhere between 10 and 20, depending on how much they like the team I guess. As much as I hate to say it, I bet the defense gets the problems worked out later in the season and becomes one of the better units in the NFC. But I just don't see Bledsoe doing much for them. I think Parcells is putting way too much confidence in a guy who doesn't have much left in the tank.

HowBoutThemCowboys!
08-26-2005, 06:45 PM
Zup guys. Should be a good game tommorrow. lol, it's gonna be telivised on 3 stations in Austin. On FOX, CBS, and the WB.

TEXANS84
08-26-2005, 06:46 PM
My alltime favorite picture:

http://www.houstonprofootball.com/images/texans90802c.gif

HowBoutThemCowboys!
08-26-2005, 06:49 PM
I liked how Jerry remained classy through all of that and wasn't a bad sport.

Lucky
08-26-2005, 07:05 PM
I liked how Jerry remained classy through all of that and wasn't a bad sport.
I think Gary was just reminding Jones that most owners enjoy the game from their luxury box. The field is for the players & coaches.

beerlover
08-26-2005, 07:18 PM
I think Gary was just reminding Jones that most owners enjoy the game from their luxury box. The field is for the players & coaches.

:heh:

nunusguy
08-26-2005, 07:19 PM
Zup guys. Should be a good game tommorrow. lol, it's gonna be telivised on 3 stations in Austin. On FOX, CBS, and the WB.
Are you still over here with us Howbout - won't they let you back on that Cowboys Board yet ? What did you do to get them so annoyed with you ? By the way, you did know that Johnson plagiaristed that saying from the Georgia Bulldogs, right ? Since like the 70s, they've been saying "Howboutthemdogs".
Anyway, hope you know the main goal of tomorrows game is not to get anybody hurt - we want both the Texans & Cowboys to go into the Regular season unencumbered by any injuries suffered on the evening of Aug. 27.

BattleRedRaider
08-26-2005, 07:25 PM
WOOOOOO! It's the Texas Bowl 2005! Cowboys vs. Texans!

Where all the Texans fans set aside their differences and just plain hate the Cowboys for one game.

OK, maybe not everyone, but I know I am.

Buzz
08-26-2005, 08:09 PM
I think Gary was just reminding Jones that most owners enjoy the game from their luxury box. The field is for the players & coaches.

That reminded me of this picture from the Texans-Cowboys game:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/363636/jones-mcnair.gif

I think what they said might have gone something like this-
Jerry: Hey Bob, if you need some advice on coaching, er, running the team, just give me a call.
Bob: No thanks (thinking to himself "Why would I take advice from a moron like you?").

HowBoutThemCowboys!
08-26-2005, 08:10 PM
Are you still over here with us Howbout - won't they let you back on that Cowboys Board yet ? What did you do to get them so annoyed with you ? By the way, you did know that Johnson plagiaristed that saying from the Georgia Bulldogs, right ? Since like the 70s, they've been saying "Howboutthemdogs".
Anyway, hope you know the main goal of tomorrows game is not to get anybody hurt - we want both the Texans & Cowboys to go into the Regular season unencumbered by any injuries suffered on the evening of Aug. 27.

Why do you respond to me like this man? What did I ever do against you? All I did was say "It should be a good game" Do you take offense by this? I know the goal will be that no one gets hurt. That's what I hope for each game. But whatever, say what you want about me, your entitled to your opinion. Go back to adding on your 10 threads you've already posted about the Cowboys. I could careless.

TigerBait
08-26-2005, 09:13 PM
Im looking forward to seeing Buchannon return punts. He's always bragging how he likes to get his hands on the ball and score touchdowns, here's his chance.

Crank_It_Up
08-26-2005, 09:18 PM
I liked how Jerry remained classy through all of that and wasn't a bad sport.
Yeah, that Jerry is one classy guy, just ask Tom Landry. :rolleyes:

WWJD
08-26-2005, 10:21 PM
Coach Landry, as far as I know, never said anything in print about Jerry Jones negatively although I'm sure he was unhappy with the way he was treated. I also think he realized it was a business and after years of letting players go he was bound to have some sense of the ugly side of football.

Irregardless it's done, he's passed on and he'll always be remembered as one of the classiest coaches ever. To me anyway.

nunusguy
08-26-2005, 10:48 PM
It's funny I don't see any Texan fans on that thread but alot of Dallas fans on this one.
Yea I know BC7, they're really kind of clueless - they don't seem to understand that they are just making a nuisance out of themselves over here. All I can figure is their buddies must have run them off of their own Board.

WWJD
08-26-2005, 11:00 PM
You can always put me on ignore...

I like the Texans too. I wouldn't be here if I didn't. I've never done anything to get myself banned from any board. I just like to discuss football when time allows and I like the Cowboys AND Texans. If that's bothersome just put me on ignore and your problem is solved with me. If I'm who you are speaking of that is and I guess I am since I'm a Cowboys fan.

HowBoutThemCowboys!
08-26-2005, 11:05 PM
Yeah, that Jerry is one classy guy, just ask Tom Landry. :rolleyes:

ROFL, you got me there.






True those selected comments from the Cowboy-Forum were a little hommerish but it's not that different over here-


My pediction is that we will win by a historical margin with only our third string in the game and the cowgirls will be so ashamed that they will pack up and move to southern Oklahoma where they will start their new lives as gerbil ranchers.


---
Yea I know BC7, they're really kind of clueless - they don't seem to understand that they are just making a nuisance out of themselves over here. All I can figure is their buddies must have run them off of their own Board.


Nunusguy, you are the most stubborn person I have ever seen in my life. I try my best to maintain my composure after everytime you specifically call me out, but you give me crap in return. I'm fed up with your insecurity.
Just because the Tuna b*tch slapped you in the 60s, dont take it out on the Cowboy fans.

CowboysTexansFan
08-26-2005, 11:10 PM
As a fan of both teams, I'm looking forward to this game. My biggest concern about the Texans coming into this season was the offensive line. Ware was an absolute freak last week against Seattle, and I'm looking forward to seeing how well Riley will be able to cope with him.

Not to be mean, and granted it was a preseason game, but Ware showed me more in that one half than Babin and Peek put together have shown me in all the time they've been in Houston.

I'm also looking forward to seeing how well the Texans can defend the run. Dallas has a question mark at RT, but the rest of their line is solid, and Jones is a terrific back with tremendous speed.

Finally, I'm looking forward to seeing how well the Texans can move the ball against the Dallas defense. I think we're going to have to rely on the offense to win most of the games this year, so I'm hoping Carr and Company will be up to the challenge, especially the O-Line. Having said that, however, I have been pleasantly surprised with how the first team O-Line has performed thus far in pre-season. I hope they can keep it up.

ATX
08-26-2005, 11:22 PM
Not to be mean, and granted it was a preseason game, but Ware showed me more in that one half than Babin and Peek put together have shown me in all the time they've been in Houston.

Ah, man thats not fair. Maybe you haven't watched as many texans games as the rest of us, but here's some stats from 2004.

Babin: 63 tackles, 4 sacks, 2 fumble recoveries
Peek: 20 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 fumble recovery, 1 interception in limited play

Are you really being serious? I don't think you are.

Wolf
08-26-2005, 11:41 PM
gotta love a rivalry

HowBoutThemCowboys!
08-26-2005, 11:45 PM
gotta love a rivalry

Yeah that.

Pre-season or not, this is what it's all about.

Davis37
08-27-2005, 12:20 AM
Yea I know BC7, they're really kind of clueless - they don't seem to understand that they are just making a nuisance out of themselves over here. All I can figure is their buddies must have run them off of their own Board.

Dont be so harsh man. Most of the Cowboys fans that post on this board are respectful and insightful. There are a few bad apples, but most are ok. The most annoying fans that come to this board are the Lions fans (excluding IHateGeeks). Last couple of days their title has been up for grabs with the Bills fans expecially (Evanssomething). Im looking forward to the game tomorrow and cant wait to see our 1st team off in for at least the full 1st half. Hopefully we can pull out the win for team morale and for bragging rights (mostly for us fans).

GO TEXANS!!! :texflag:

DFAN
08-27-2005, 12:47 AM
Ah, man thats not fair. Maybe you haven't watched as many texans games as the rest of us, but here's some stats from 2004.

Babin: 63 tackles, 4 sacks, 2 fumble recoveries
Peek: 20 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 fumble recovery, 1 interception in limited play

Are you really being serious? I don't think you are.


I do think he was being a little sarcastic. I have stated that Ware wont play like that every game but putiing up Babin and Peeks stats for a whole year and limited play and comparing it to Wars 2 preseason games doesn't work in your favor.

Ware: 1 sack, 2 force fumbles, 1 recovered fumble, 1 INT. Not sure on the tackles.

Not trying to flame this just pointing out that Ware stats compare favorably to both Peek and Babin just in 2 preseason games compared to a whole year.

texan_fan
08-27-2005, 01:54 AM
WOOOOOO! It's the Texas Bowl 2005! Cowboys vs. Texans!

Where all the Texans fans set aside their differences and just plain hate the Cowboys for one game.

OK, maybe not everyone, but I know I am.

LOL I just plain hate THEM anyway...all year long!!!

ATX
08-27-2005, 03:50 AM
I do think he was being a little sarcastic. I have stated that Ware wont play like that every game but putiing up Babin and Peeks stats for a whole year and limited play and comparing it to Wars 2 preseason games doesn't work in your favor.

Ware: 1 sack, 2 force fumbles, 1 recovered fumble, 1 INT. Not sure on the tackles.

Not trying to flame this just pointing out that Ware stats compare favorably to both Peek and Babin just in 2 preseason games compared to a whole year.

One game in one half of a preseason game really doesn't mean much IMO. Babin and Peek have put up real game stats, where as Ware has played in 2 presseason games and he put up the stats you mentioned in that game, not in two games. You can't really compare stats, it really is apples to oranges here. No way he puts up numbers like 16 sacks, 32 forced fumbles, 16 fumble recoveries, and 16 interceptions based on a preseason game. Sorry, that's just ludicrous.

"I have stated that Ware wont play like that every game but putiing up Babin and Peeks stats for a whole year and limited play and comparing it to Wars 2 preseason games doesn't work in your favor."

How do you reason that without just saying it? you can't even compare preseason stats to real game stats. this was the original comment.

"Not to be mean, and granted it was a preseason game, but Ware showed me more in that one half than Babin and Peek put together have shown me in all the time they've been in Houston."

I threw out the stats because these actually happened in real games, where it matters. Ware hasn't played in a real game yet, so saying his numbers are favorable to players who have played in a real game isn't a great argument.

Compare it to say a baseball player who goes up to bat one time, hits a grand slam in a preseason game in florida. Is it rational to compare his stats to a guy who has played all season? Might excite the hell out of you, especially if you don't have much to be excited about to begin with, but in the end his stats are meaningless.

DFAN
08-27-2005, 04:13 AM
One game in one half of a preseason game really doesn't mean much IMO. Babin and Peek have put up real game stats, where as Ware has played in 2 presseason games and he put up the stats you mentioned in that game, not in two games. You can't really compare stats, it really is apples to oranges here. No way he puts up numbers like 16 sacks, 32 forced fumbles, 16 fumble recoveries, and 16 interceptions based on a preseason game. Sorry, that's just ludicrous.

"I have stated that Ware wont play like that every game but putiing up Babin and Peeks stats for a whole year and limited play and comparing it to Wars 2 preseason games doesn't work in your favor."

How do you reason that without just saying it? you can't even compare preseason stats to real game stats. this was the original comment.

"Not to be mean, and granted it was a preseason game, but Ware showed me more in that one half than Babin and Peek put together have shown me in all the time they've been in Houston."

I threw out the stats because these actually happened in real games, where it matters. Ware hasn't played in a real game yet, so saying his numbers are favorable to players who have played in a real game isn't a great argument.

Compare it to say a baseball player who goes up to bat one time, hits a grand slam in a preseason game in florida. Is it rational to compare his stats to a guy who has played all season? Might excite the hell out of you, especially if you don't have much to be excited about to begin with, but in the end his stats are meaningless.


I agree it doesnt matter becasue its preseason. I just think putting their #'s up wasnt very good argument considerig Wares one game was favorable to their whole year. Preseason or not. JMO!!!

ATX
08-27-2005, 06:21 AM
I agree it doesnt matter becasue its preseason. I just think putting their #'s up wasnt very good argument considerig Wares one game was favorable to their whole year. Preseason or not. JMO!!!

Ware's one game total was more favorable than any player in the history of the game. you can't just say preseason or not, the numbers i put up there weren't there to compare to ware's stats just to show that they've actually played in the real thing, thats all. :texflag:

Davis37
08-27-2005, 06:26 AM
Ware's one game total was more favorable than any player in the history of the game. you can't just say preseason or not, the numbers i put up there weren't there to compare to ware's stats just to show that they've actually played in the real thing, thats all. :texflag:

actually someone had the same stats as him in a preseason game around 10 years ago. at least thats what they said on sportscenter

angeltexus
08-27-2005, 07:25 AM
I hope we will see the 1st team for at least the first half.
:texans:
Remember last season, loses at home then Detroit thanks to our coaches not having our starting squad out in preseason getting ready for a full game. Way to go, another repeat..

nunusguy
08-27-2005, 10:06 AM
"Other than a serious injury to a key player, nothing that happens tonight will indicate which team will have the better record this season."
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3327460
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Thanks for putting it in the proper perspective McClain, because that is for
sure the bottom line for tonights game. But there are a couple side shows
that will be useful to the Texans, not the least of which is how our new found
LT will do against Demarcus Ware, the rookie wiz. If the offense is gonna be in
there for a half or so tonight, we may get a chance to see how Riley can match up against a very talented edge rusher. This is the part about Riley that makes me nervous because as inept as Wand appears to be at times,
I still think he is marginally better than Riley when it comes to pass protecting on the edge against a DE/OLB and protecting DCs back.

rmartin65
08-27-2005, 10:15 AM
Last couple of days their title has been up for grabs with the Bills fans expecially (Evanssomething).
good it be evansfan?

Crank_It_Up
08-27-2005, 10:19 AM
any chance to beat Jerry Jones is a chance for happiness, be it preseason or not...
maybe if he loses often enough he'll sell the team and migrate to Tennessee (seems to be a good place for low class NFL owners these days)

Texas_Heat
08-27-2005, 10:21 AM
Remember last season, loses at home then Detroit thanks to our coaches not having our starting squad out in preseason getting ready for a full game. Way to go, another repeat..


I don't remember the players saying that they lost the first two games last year because of the coaches not having them ready.

rittenhouserobz
08-27-2005, 12:01 PM
I don't remember the players saying that they lost the first two games last year because of the coaches not having them ready.

These things are implied by the actions and attitudes of the players. I can think of an previous Texan that did not think there was much vision for the future in the organization. I would assume Sharpers comments were directed at the overall plan to succeed, as well as, the individual gameplans each week. This is just an assumption.

I suspect that Carr is going to do fine this evening. The Texans are working on the quick throws to equalize the lack of pass protection. How many times has Carr been sacked this preseason? I am truly interested in seeing what Mathis and Morency do tonight.

rmartin65
08-27-2005, 12:06 PM
I suspect that Carr is going to do fine this evening. The Texans are working on the quick throws to equalize the lack of pass protection. How many times has Carr been sacked this preseason? I am truly interested in seeing what Mathis and Morency do tonight.
me too. carr is having a fantastic pre-season(while he's been in) and mathis and morency seem like 2 of the most dynamic rookies around.

Crank_It_Up
08-27-2005, 12:17 PM
...The Texans are working on the quick throws to equalize the lack of pass protection. How many times has Carr been sacked this preseason?...none yet, but then he's only attempted 10 passes so far this year... last year in preseason he was only sacked twice in 37 pass attempts

TigerBait
08-27-2005, 12:54 PM
Not to mention, my friend in Dallas says that the Cowboy's defense so far has made Warner and Hassleback look like Aikman in his prime. So obviously they still have some thing's to work out in the new 3-4, Carr should be able to hold his own.

TEXANS84
08-27-2005, 03:07 PM
Hello all, we are LIVE from Dallas!!!

Tedc, Bigwig, Lauren, Bullpen1, dean and Jeff, SheTexan, and many others!

It is hot as heck, temp showing 99!

FILO_girl
08-27-2005, 03:16 PM
Hello all, we are LIVE from Dallas!!!

Tedc, Bigwig, Lauren, Bullpen1, dean and Jeff, SheTexan, and many others!

It is hot as heck, temp showing 99!

It's 102 with a dp of 75= 116 in Katy. Is about 108 in Dallas at last check.

Drink water guys (and gals) and watch the barley/hops ingestion. Will be headed to the Houston end of the party in 2.5 hours or so.

Have fun and will be looking for y'all on the TeeVee!!!!

rmartin65
08-27-2005, 04:23 PM
dang, i wish i could be there...

Crank_It_Up
08-27-2005, 07:06 PM
channel 13 showing the game at 7PM