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Cjeremy635
08-22-2005, 02:54 PM
I don't know if this is in another thread or not, but I will go ahead and voice my opinion on what I saw in Saturday nights game pertaining to our back up running backs. When DD went out and Hollings came in where we still using our 1st string O-line? If we were, why was he not able to get any yards? He seemed to fall forward at the line of scrimmage and not fight for the extra yard. I'm not insinuating that he doesn't care or isn't worried about making the team, I'm just concerned that he could not produce positive yards. Then we bring in Morency..who blew Hollings production out of the water. This kid has some decent moves (minus the loop-t-loop at the end of that one run) and decent speed. I was more impressed with him in his second preseason game than out of anything I've seen from Hollings in two years. Maybe I expected more from Tony Hollings or think our team needs a better #2, but I would stick with Morency and let him develope in that spot. :texans: :texflag: :ok:

El Tejano
08-22-2005, 03:03 PM
(minus the loop-t-loop at the end of that one run) :
According to Spencer Tillman, this is known as Bula Bula :brickwall

BornOrange
08-22-2005, 03:13 PM
Morency definitely got better blocking on his two big runs. Ted Washington and Warren Sapp were out of the game by the time Morency entered the game. It seemed that Hollings just didn't have any blocking on his runs.

I would like to see Davis skip the game against Dallas and let Hollings and Morency get snaps with the first team offensive line against the Cowboys first team defense. We already know what Davis can do and there is no need to risk him getting injured in a meaningless preseason game. However, we do need to find out what Hollings and Morency can do...especially if the loser of their competition is going to lose a roster spot.

edo783
08-22-2005, 03:49 PM
While Holling isn't yet officially a bust, he is sneaking up on it. If he doesn't show some seriouse skills the next two games, this will likely be the year we cut him loose.

dalemurphy
08-22-2005, 04:09 PM
He'll be officially a bust when we cut him in about 10 days.

beerlover
08-22-2005, 04:20 PM
Hollings is the lone "Bula Bula" of the Casserly Texans era :brickwall the odds are so staked against him, serious acl about four games experience prior to his injury and a lengthy absence. what I've seen is Hollings lacks the knack for hitting or finding the open hole. he is more of a frontline runner, I haven't seen much cut-back moves & he also lacks the straight ahead north & south style either. very limited role that could only be used sparringly & in specific situations like a swing pass, screen or pitch out on some type of option. he was supposed to also have some return abilities but I think his injury has taken this option, along with all the speed the Texans now have, away from him :cool:

Fiddy
08-22-2005, 04:25 PM
Take it for what you want because I even doubt he is ahead of Morency: Tony Hollings has a slight edge on rookie Vernand Morency in the competition for Houston’s backup RB job. Hollings is as healthy as he has been in his Houston tenure, while Morency’s cutting ability has impressed.

http://profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/Whispers/2005/whispers2008.htm

As most people know, I'm a big Hollings supporter and still am. This only his 4th year playing RB and when you get him in space you can feel the electricy. Especially on screen passes (Dallas preseason last year, 1st game of the season last year against the Chargers when he the 27 yard screen down to the one and 23 yard screen pass against Denver this preseason). His only problem is staying healthy. A very big problem. He needs to stay healthy so he can prove his worth.

Corrosion
08-22-2005, 04:49 PM
Hollings a bust?

At this point I would say Yes , he cant stay healthy for one , cant block , hasnt shown he can get around the edge which is why he was brought in , cant go North / South , doesnt contribute to special teams and worst of all is a turn over waiting to happen , anyone who puts the ball on the ground will find himself in DC's dog house .
He may make the team this year but i seriously doubt he will see much game action .
The numbers dont lie .....
career stats .
49 attempts
149 yards
7 catches for 71 yards
2 fumbles
9 kick returns with an avg of 18.3 yards
2 tackles

Texans86
08-22-2005, 05:16 PM
It stinks that Hollings hasn't done better than he has. At the time he was picked, DD hadn't become the dominant back that he is now, so it makes sense that CC wanted another running back. It might have been too much of a reach and it's unfortunate, but now we need to move on. We can't take back the pick, so anything we say counts for nothing.

SESupergenius
08-22-2005, 05:22 PM
2nd rounder that is 3rd on the depth chart. That right there is a bust.

BUST!

aj.
08-22-2005, 05:25 PM
It was obvious in 2003 that he wasn't a between-the-tackles running back and was better suited for a situational role. His current value is nowhere near what you would reasonably expect from a second round pick in his third year - even with the injuries.

GP
08-22-2005, 05:40 PM
I think it has to do with each player's initial burst of speed at the snap of the ball.

Morency blasts off, and it just seems like Hollings is trying to eyeball which running lane to choose from as he gets the handoff. By the time Morency has the handoff, he's already committed to a running lane and is hitting another gear which gets him past the linemen before they can squeeze down the running lane(s).

That's my view of it.

the wonger need food
08-22-2005, 07:26 PM
Hollings a bust?

Absolutely. The only plays he's ever made (and there have been very few) have been on passes in the flat or screens. There's too much pride in the front office to cut him. I can see his "role" this year being a 3rd down receiving back and off the team next year if he can't produce doing that.

Keeping Hollings around this year will put Baxter off the roster unless they keep 6 RB's, which is highly unlikely.

Davis37
08-23-2005, 01:04 AM
IMHO Hollings is a bust. Im not sure if he will be cut this year or not, but im leaning twords him being cut. I think with all of the depth at WR we have, we will keep 6 WR's this year which leaves no room for Hollings. Morency has clearly out preformed Hollings IMO so Hollings better step up big in the Dallas game or pack his bags.

HJam72
08-23-2005, 02:54 AM
It's preseason, but I think Morency is already doing what they wanted Hollings to do all along. I see no reason to keep Hollings around anymore.

TexHorns
08-23-2005, 03:08 AM
Hollings is the lone "Bula Bula" of the Casserly Texans era :brickwall the odds are so staked against him, serious acl about four games experience prior to his injury and a lengthy absence. what I've seen is Hollings lacks the knack for hitting or finding the open hole. he is more of a frontline runner, I haven't seen much cut-back moves & he also lacks the straight ahead north & south style either. very limited role that could only be used sparringly & in specific situations like a swing pass, screen or pitch out on some type of option. he was supposed to also have some return abilities but I think his injury has taken this option, along with all the speed the Texans now have, away from him :cool:

I have had 3 acl repairs myself. I think his injury has alot to do with why he is not as crafty when he runs. Some people can come back from injuries like that and some cant.

TexHorns
08-23-2005, 03:13 AM
BUST :bomb:

Hervoyel
08-23-2005, 12:39 PM
I really wanted to see Tony Hollings as the steal of the century. I wanted to see him do some freaky fast, greased lightning running like he supposedly did through the first four games of his last season in college. That's why I've been thinking about this thread since it first showed up but haven't posted anything. It's hard to let go of the things you want. I'm ready to go ahead and admit it though now.

I think Tony Hollings has busted. This kid couldn't find a hole to save his life. Sure he's fast but he's got the vision of, well me and that ain't gonna cut it. He doesn't seem to see the lanes or feel when there's a crack he can slip through. He always seems shocked that the defender has him.

I wonder how good the teams he ran like crazy on in college were against the run. I wonder if there's any other position we could try him at. Mostly I wonder if getting hurt after four games might not have been the best thing that ever happened to Tony Hollings. It might be the only reason he got a 2 used on him and an NFL paycheck for 2-3 years. I hope he's saved his money.

ATX
08-23-2005, 02:21 PM
maybe we could move him back to safety.

El Tejano
08-23-2005, 02:22 PM
Bust. Nothing else to say.

titan hater
08-23-2005, 03:06 PM
Bust. Nothing else to say.

Agreed...Bust! :goodnight

SESupergenius
08-23-2005, 03:15 PM
Before Hollings was considered there were more negatives about him than positives and the Texans got played. He played against defenses that were less than stellar and got hurt after 4 of them. All this and and I think that was his 1st season at the RB position. It was a wasted pick and as bad as a use of a #2 as I've ever seen. That right negates The DD pick in the 4th.