View Full Version : Raiders Game thread
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:08 PM
1st and 10 at their 32
Texas_Heat
08-20-2005, 08:08 PM
So far other then one drive this game been a :bomb:
up the middle with hollings... about 5..
DoCt3rJ
08-20-2005, 08:08 PM
Haven't seen Peek on much but a few gang tackles. Babin been quiet also but on the Raiders last player he drove Gallery back pretty good as him and Wong got pressure on Collins for the first time
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:08 PM
banks to kasper...3rd and 2
kasper quick pass, for 6-7
KAsper got about 5... 3/1
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:09 PM
3rd and short.....Hollings gets nothing.
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 08:09 PM
Hollings is not the answer to anyone's question.
rmartin65
08-20-2005, 08:09 PM
i feel a TD! :texflag:
DoCt3rJ
08-20-2005, 08:10 PM
Kasper is built 80
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:10 PM
4th...they go for it.
Nothing again
going for it
Hollings stuffed again
4th and 1, hollings stuffed , raiders ball
ccdude730
08-20-2005, 08:10 PM
i would have gone play action
Kasper is built 80
WTF does that mean?
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 08:11 PM
Wow! Couldn't see that one coming.
Can someone tell Capers that we would like to start winning games even if they are preseason.
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:11 PM
Lets see Morency...Hollings has not shown much.
Texan Spain
08-20-2005, 08:11 PM
wasn't jonatan wells the 2nd stringer RB?????
rittenhouserobz
08-20-2005, 08:11 PM
What about a naked bootleg play?
Hollings isn't showing much, but neither is the Oline, 2nd team in
wasn't jonatan wells the 2nd stringer RB?????
he is sitting this game out. hurt his hand in last game.
Marcus
08-20-2005, 08:13 PM
how are Babin and Peek???
I'm hearing Greenwood and Wong's name called a lot more than Peek and Babin's.
ccdude730
08-20-2005, 08:13 PM
well has a torn ligament in his finger and is OUT. but im ready for morency
and im really tempted to ignore the wonger need food
23 yard line.. screen.. 1st down
collins still in. screen for about 12 yards to jordan. first down raiders
Quick pass - 1 yard.. 3/3
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:15 PM
Collins is still in.....cheaters.
Marcus
08-20-2005, 08:15 PM
Can someone tell Capers that we would like to start winning games even if they are preseason.
Who the hell cares about winning a preseason game? :thumbdown
Texan Spain
08-20-2005, 08:16 PM
wasn't the coaching staff saying that the first team offense was going to be on the field for 2 quarters???
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:17 PM
Travis Johnson is in.
Texans first team offense:
1 drive, 1 TD
Raiders first team offense:
4 drives, 2 TD
LOL you ARE watching the first team offense
down the middlw pass.. maybe a 15 yard pass.. complete
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 08:17 PM
Who the hell cares about winning a preseason game? :thumbdown
Winners care if they win. These guys are playing like losers.
collins up the middle, pass for about 20 yards, collins has all day to throw
243 yards so far offesive for oakland..
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:18 PM
oak 1st and 10 from our 34....
flushed...thrown away.
Collins had to scramble.. threw it away...
2/10
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:19 PM
2nd and 10...
over the freaking MIDDLE to moss
moss for 14 yards, wide open
about 15 yard pass.. complete
then another 7 yard pass complete
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 08:20 PM
Another 1st down. Making our 1st team defense look silly.
collins has all day, no pressure what so ever
Texas_Heat
08-20-2005, 08:20 PM
Winners care if they win. These guys are playing like losers.
agree :thumbup
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:20 PM
2nd and 1 from our 12...
penalty raiders.
rittenhouserobz
08-20-2005, 08:20 PM
You contain Moss. You don't stop him when he is healthy and motivated. Slight disclaimer. :)
they are on the 12 yard line.. delay of game. now on 17 2nd down
TO texans, 1:01 left, 2nd and ???,
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:22 PM
2nd and 6 from our 17
PICK by Coleman...took it away from moss
pick... coleman... intended for moss
coleman interception, took it away from randy moss at the goalline
ccdude730
08-20-2005, 08:22 PM
Coleman With The Int!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 08:22 PM
Nice play Coleman! Take a knee and goto the house.
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:23 PM
1st and 10...holding on Weary
on the 23
run play.. run outside left to OFB.. Weary with a flag... 10 yard pen
ccdude730
08-20-2005, 08:23 PM
is this where we need to use mathis ?
:49 left, holding, 1st and 20
Texan Spain
08-20-2005, 08:24 PM
with 1 minute in the clock is the time for mathis and starling
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:24 PM
2nd and 20...Hollings delay...nothing...crowd boos.
2nd and 19, runing the clock out, :23 left, 3rd and 20
49 second.
hollings again.. and the boos appear....
2 yards maybe..
23 seconds left.. banks throws a overthrow
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:25 PM
3rd and 20...Hollings for nothing...clock stops with 19 seconds
hollings on 3rd down, gets maybe 2 yards, raiders stop the clock 4th down
Hollings up the middle.. 19 seconds with a timeout from oakland...
punting
awtysst
08-20-2005, 08:26 PM
3rd and 20...Hollings for nothing...clock stops with 19 seconds
Why not just kneel, it gets the same result.
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 08:26 PM
Must be preseason for Dom also. Terrible management there.
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:26 PM
Punt....returned to our 25...joy.
Huge kick to the 50... run back to the 22..
nicepunt, good return, field goal time
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:27 PM
3 seconds left...FG attempt
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:28 PM
its up...its....good
kick good, 17-7 raiders on top, half time
Texans Pride
08-20-2005, 08:29 PM
You've got to be kidding me....Why not sit on the ball!
No reason for them to have been able to get the three on me...
Of course I can not see the game so I could be missing something
Master Po
08-20-2005, 08:30 PM
disgusting
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 08:30 PM
These first two games make it pretty clear what direction this team is going in. Inconsistent offense, poor pass protection, no pash rush, bad pass coverage. It's like freakin' Groundhog Day around here.
BTW folks....
for more complete coverage
click here (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20050820_OAK@HOU)
Texan Spain
08-20-2005, 08:30 PM
what are your opinions for first half??????
You've got to be kidding me....Why not sit on the ball!
No reason for them to have been able to get the three on me...
Of course I can not see the game so I could be missing something
nope.. you got it right
Carr did not have alot of time... Banks for the most part had very little time..
Defense was ok.. but had wide open recievers and the Run is KILLING them
TexanJedi
08-20-2005, 08:33 PM
OK, it's only the 2nd pre-season game, but I'm already tired of Dum Capers "run up the middle philosphy"... C'mon !! 55 seconds left in the half and they try Hollings twice up the middle.. If this is what I have to look forward to all year, I'll have to start watching the Cowboys.. Hope you're listening Coaching Staff.. We're tired of the 1950's style offense.
Just a note.. hear the boo birds... get used to it if you don't change this scheme.
Texans Pride
08-20-2005, 08:35 PM
BTW folks....
for more complete coverage
click here (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20050820_OAK@HOU)
Dime, I'll take your coverage to that any day
I will have to step out for a few minutes.. but will be back.. follow that link above if you need a play by play.
dalemurphy
08-20-2005, 08:36 PM
what are your opinions for first half??????
1st team offense looked good. I thought the run blocking was very good and I actually saw Carr step up into the pocket to complete the first down to AJ in the red zone.
The 1st team defense looked anxious, lots of overpursuit, etc... Buchanan made some sure tackles and supported the run rather well. However, he also played consistantly softed coverage- not sure why. The second team front 7 and our second team OLine was thoroughly dominated by the Raider first teamers.
Hollings is going to be released. He's afraid of contact and just doesn't run strong. I think the 3rd and short followed by the 4th and short in the second quarter will prove to be his last chance to prove he can run strong and tough.
Pitts looked great and so did Wade. Mathis will be playing a lot by midseason.
Peek and Babin were nonexistant rushing the passer.
Dime, I'll take your coverage to that any day
ahhh gosh... thanks.. I will be back quickly.
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:37 PM
OK, it's only the 2nd pre-season game, but I'm already tired of Dum Capers "run up the middle philosphy"... C'mon !! 55 seconds left in the half and they try Hollings twice up the middle.. If this is what I have to look forward to all year, I'll have to start watching the Cowboys.. Hope you're listening Coaching Staff.. We're tired of the 1950's style offense.
Just a note.. hear the boo birds... get used to it if you don't change this scheme.
remember, last year we got KILLED by the steelers in our second preseason game. But whatever, dude. Have fun watching the Cowboys.
I hate to agree but I saw nothing from Hollings tonight that will keep him on the team.
dalemurphy
08-20-2005, 08:39 PM
OK, it's only the 2nd pre-season game, but I'm already tired of Dum Capers "run up the middle philosphy"... C'mon !! 55 seconds left in the half and they try Hollings twice up the middle.. If this is what I have to look forward to all year, I'll have to start watching the Cowboys.. Hope you're listening Coaching Staff.. We're tired of the 1950's style offense.
Just a note.. hear the boo birds... get used to it if you don't change this scheme.
good riddins.. You sound fickle like Cowboy fans so please don't let the door hit you...
Look, Hollings is getting a look. It was apparent that Banks wasn't going to have any time to throw with Weary, Brown, Jones, etc... pass blocking against Washington, Sapp, Brayton, etc... So, they decided to give Hollings a couple opportunities to see what he could do. It's PRESEASON!!!!!!
ccdude730
08-20-2005, 08:42 PM
if petey comes down with that pass from collins, the score would probably be 10-7. i dont see how we are getting blown out to where anyone is ready to start following other teams.
good riddins.. You sound fickle like Cowboy fans so please don't let the door hit you...
Look, Hollings is getting a look. It was apparent that Banks wasn't going to have any time to throw with Weary, Brown, Jones, etc... pass blocking against Washington, Sapp, Brayton, etc... So, they decided to give Hollings a couple opportunities to see what he could do. It's PRESEASON!!!!!!
AND as I said.. Hollings has not shown me nothing to keep him from getting in next week cuts.
The first drive by the Texans was pretty good. 3/3 on third downs, used alot of clock, kept the ball moving.
Faggins has been beat twice for 2 TDs, Jordan and collins have been picking our defense apart. we're having very litle pass rush, and collins has all day to throw the ball.
Swinton returned a punt for 57 yards, might have made the team, also caught the TD pass.
Coleman had a nice interception right onthe gaol line
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:42 PM
Mathis returns the kick... up to the 28.
Banks is still in.
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 08:43 PM
85 yards of total offense and the Raiders moved the ball at will. Total domination by the Raiders. At some point you have to quit making excuses.
Kick.. to the 27.. Texans ball
hollings runs for 11 yards
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:43 PM
good run by Hollings!
11 yard run by Hollings.. good run and he juked a bit
Texan Spain
08-20-2005, 08:44 PM
wait, you must see if now is returning mathis and if he does better or worse than swinton
Outside run to Hollings.. to the left.. gain of 3.. Flag and repeat down
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:44 PM
85 total yards of total offense and the Raiders moved the ball at will. Total domination by the Raiders. At some point you have to quit making excuses.
yes the defense looked soft...but the 85 total yards for Houston is based on one series by the full first team...I guess that's an excuse, but it's the truth.
1st and 20, ball on 28, banks passes, way off, 2nd and 20
Baxter in..
Mathis intended but way over thrown..
TexanJedi
08-20-2005, 08:45 PM
By the way.. if you can't listen or watch the game.. NFL.com does a flash style update on their website.. just look for the scores area, and click on your favorite game.. Plays update every 10-15 seconds or so.
and by the way.. I hate the cowboys more than anyone you'll ever meet, but if I wanted to see the 1963 Giants run up the middle 47 times a game, I'd watch espn classic.
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:45 PM
Mathis wide open....dropped.
Punt.
Mathis on the slant.. he dropped it..
3/20
Typical preseason game.
We all knew the Raiders were going to be explosive on offense and they are...no surprise. And they have a good O line so they can move the ball running also.
The Texans and first team offense did fine.
Booing doesn't bother me..people pay their money and they can do whatever they want. I don't call that fickle...those same people will be back next game and the next.
pass to mathis, drops it, 3rd and 20
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:46 PM
now they punt.
pass to starling, drops it
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:46 PM
we've dropped a bunch of passes tonight.
Sterling at the 1st down marker. dropped.. Banks gets clobbered.. 4/20
Punt - flag on texans - +5 yards to run
Texan Spain
08-20-2005, 08:48 PM
that three passes dropped had been good defense, bad passes or bad receptions??
second for the yard line its on..
1 was over thrown.. the rest were out in out drops.. good passes , decent coverage
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 08:50 PM
that three passes dropped had been good defense, bad passes or bad receptions??
Have we had a receiver wide open all night? Raiders are open all over the field. Why doesn't this ever change?
Oakland 34 yard line
run to the 39
2/5 Dump off pass complete.. about 9.. 1/10
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:51 PM
Anderson sack!
sack for anderson.. off side
rittenhouserobz
08-20-2005, 08:52 PM
Fickle would mean he was a Cowboy fan two weeks ago. Switched to the Texans for 2 weeks and then is ready to switch back. I would venture to say many longtime fans of the Texans have seen drives end in two runs up the middle and an incomplete pass.
Texan Spain
08-20-2005, 08:52 PM
who is the other outside linebacker??
I meant he was sack on the side..
pass play - screen play..
3/10 now
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:53 PM
long pass....first down.
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 08:53 PM
Another wide open receiver on 3rd and long.
17 yard pass complete... 1/10
Orr fooled..
Tuso ran for about 5
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:54 PM
3rd and short....first down.
got 2 yards.. 1/10 through the middle
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:55 PM
1 and 10....interception Simmons!
I would have posts quicker but I can only do a post every 30 seconds..
Interception... in endzone symons
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 08:56 PM
Nice play by Simmons. Did Tiusosoupo get hit on that one or did we bait him?
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:57 PM
I've heard Parsons is a good preseason QB...if we put him in we might have a chance!
thrown into double coverage.. was ours all the way
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 08:57 PM
Yep, just watched it again. Orr hit the QB as he was throwing it. Probably would have been an INT anyway.
rittenhouserobz
08-20-2005, 08:57 PM
I hope it is Ragone time.
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:58 PM
Morency!
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-20-2005, 08:58 PM
Morency will beat out Hollings for the backup job
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 08:58 PM
There's our #2 RB.
ccdude730
08-20-2005, 08:58 PM
morency? what was that????? JUST RUN AND GET YARDS
rookie mistakes but i like the way he runs
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:58 PM
Banks is still in....false start.
43 yard line - false start 1/15
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:59 PM
morency? what was that????? JUST RUN AND GET YARDS
rookie mistakes but i like the way he runs
yeah, he started running circles at the end...just put your head down and run!
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-20-2005, 08:59 PM
errrrr what happened?
swisher
08-20-2005, 08:59 PM
no fumble...incomplete pass
Banks huh... thrown.. ummmm fumbled.. and no... it is a incomplete pass..
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:00 PM
Morency..more dancing.
2/15
Morency - 2 yards...
3/13
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:01 PM
finally a 3rd down conversion!!
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-20-2005, 09:01 PM
Mathis 1st down
first down pass to mathis 14 yards
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 09:01 PM
Whew-hoo! A first down!
Mathis makes a cool catch with a gain of 14. 1/10... good placement
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:01 PM
you can tell Mathis is a crowd favorite.
ccdude730
08-20-2005, 09:01 PM
mathis getting involved right here. i agree with the announcer - he should have gone deep with that press coverage
5 yard pass to sloan thomas.
Sloan makes 5 yard catch... right side.
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-20-2005, 09:02 PM
Morency!!!!!!!!!!!!
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:02 PM
I think Morency is our number two back.
morency, huge run, 31 yards, 1st and goal texans
Morency up the middle - he was gone.. 31 yards
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 09:02 PM
Caught from behind by 38 again. Nice run though.
ccdude730
08-20-2005, 09:03 PM
morency looking real good on this drive
1st and goal, morncy runs for 0, 2nd and goal now
Texan Spain
08-20-2005, 09:03 PM
will sloan thomas make the team??
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:03 PM
2nd and goal...
banks throws it away
rittenhouserobz
08-20-2005, 09:04 PM
Should get Wells in there.
Banks throws it away... Baxter had a crappy block
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:04 PM
3rd and goal...
banks sacked
Wells is hurt...
sack on banks
banks throws it away,3rd and goal, banks sack trying to scramble, field gaol try now
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:05 PM
Should get Wells in there.
wells is out with a torn tendon in one of his fingers.
TexanJedi
08-20-2005, 09:05 PM
Please click one of the Quick Reply icons in the posts above to activate Quick Reply.
Morency looks good so far, took away hollings job tonight for sure, maybe Wells too
still limits to 30 seconds..
the wonger need food
08-20-2005, 09:07 PM
The offense falters again.
Oh well, time for UFC. You guys try to enjoy the effort. Let's hope that some things change really quickly around here.
NAh... one game aint going to take away from wells.
TexanJedi
08-20-2005, 09:07 PM
See how the pass sets up the run !! Partial Retraction: Could have just been Hollings inability to run.
btw.. I drive 10 hours (about 600) miles to see a couple of Houston games a year. Don't believe that's fickle.
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:07 PM
kick is good
3rd quarter, 3:37 , Texans kicking off,
kick 23 yard return to the 29
raiders ball on 29, 1st and 10
false start, 1st and 15 from 24 yard line
run - 1 yard gain in the middle
Texans stuff run on 1st down, 2nd and 13 now
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:12 PM
pass tipped...3rd down.
ball tipped, incomplete, 3rd and 13
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-20-2005, 09:12 PM
tipped pass by TJ
2/13
tipped and travis johnson tipper
3/13
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:13 PM
3 and out!
Flag - almost intercepted. 4/13
flag down, pass incomplete, illegeal formation, declined, 4th down, almost intercepted by troy evans
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:13 PM
Evans almost intercepted the deflection.
Punt
reciever - swinton
gets about 10 to the 45
punting to swinton. gets maybe 5-10 yards on return.
Texans ball, 1st and 10, 17-10 raiders, 3rd quarter, commercial
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:16 PM
commercial...
Snoop Dog loses a little more street cred for doing a chrysler commercial.
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:16 PM
first and goal!!!
ccdude730
08-20-2005, 09:16 PM
wow he is fast!!! DB had to hold him on that one to prevent the TD
1st down pass to mathis deep, flag down, ragone in, pass interfeence
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:17 PM
first and goal!!!
not quite..but close
sooooooooooooooooo close... Defensive pass inter. was about a 20-30 yard pass.. mathis... amost got it..
DefLord
08-20-2005, 09:17 PM
Passing INterference = Ragone to Mathis (at least he was trying) :texflag:
reverse to kasper for 9 yards, wow mathis really buened his man on play before
Kasper to the left - about 5-6
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:18 PM
3rd and short....run up the middle?
yes, but we actually convert!
3rd and 1, morency runs for 3 , first and goal
Morency up the middle to the 12
also got the first
ccdude730
08-20-2005, 09:18 PM
keep it going...we got the 1st down and were about the 5
DefLord
08-20-2005, 09:19 PM
1st Down! Morency! I'm starting to like this guy...
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:19 PM
1 and g Morency loses a couple.
1st and goal, morency stuffed, 2 yard loss,
Morency tackled by jay foreman..
loss 2 yards
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:19 PM
2nd and goal...
Morency down to the 2...fourth q.
Morency runs to 2. 3rd and goal, end of third quarter
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:22 PM
pass tipped ..... fourth down
3rd and goal from the 2, ragone bad throw on roll out
swisher
08-20-2005, 09:22 PM
actually is wasn't tipped...just a bad throw.
ragone thought swinton was 16 foot tall.. overthrown...
FG
kris brown, its up and good, 17-13 raiders
ccdude730
08-20-2005, 09:23 PM
crud! ragone let that one fly when he just had to hand it to him.
thats alright - i have confidence in the guys we have in there right now
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-20-2005, 09:23 PM
Sorry Ragone but we don't have any receivers that are 10 feet tall.
it sad when they showed a guy saying 'what the F was that?' rofl.. I was rolling..
kick in the endzone. run out to 27
returned to 27, 1st and 10 raiders
raiders run for 5, 2nd and 5
Tuso still in...
Fargas up the middle for 5
2/5
run up middle again..
3/3
Quick out.. pass
Complete - gain of 24
1/10
24 yard pass, lewis sanders burned, looked bad
charlie anderson stuffs reverse, loss on the play
Texans 43
Reverse.. meet anderson... loss of 3-4 yards... pretty play
2nd and 12, run up the middle for 9
run - up the middle
about 9 yards..
3/5
pass on 3rd and 5, 4th down and 1,
vBulletin® v3.7.2, Copyright ©2000-2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.