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Tailgate
08-17-2005, 02:50 PM
I know its waaaaaay early.... its just something I found while surfing around.

I would be happy with the pick though.

LINK (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html)

GetItHowULive
08-17-2005, 03:02 PM
I am pretty happy with the projections so far and i am glad to see Deangelo Williams in the #5 spot, he is an amazing talent and has been underrated in Memphis IMO.

awtysst
08-17-2005, 04:34 PM
I know its waaaaaay early.... its just something I found while surfing around.

I would be happy with the pick though.

LINK (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html)


I do not like that they have us picking 8, that represnts a drop in quality play from this year. Unless we trade down, that scenario saddens me.

Tailgate
08-17-2005, 07:10 PM
I do not like that they have us picking 8, that represnts a drop in quality play from this year. Unless we trade down, that scenario saddens me.


Naaa. We used our extra 3rd round pick we got this year to move up from the 20's!

texasguy346
08-17-2005, 10:49 PM
Kind of interesting that they have Greenway going 7th to the Bears. Couple of things. I think the Bears would end up picking higher than that (2-4), and imagine the speed at LB with Urlacher and Greenway. Wow!

ArlingtonTexan
08-17-2005, 10:52 PM
Naaa. We used our extra 3rd round pick we got this year to move up from the 20's!

Would take at least our 3rd and a 1st 2007.

Texas_Thrill
08-18-2005, 12:48 AM
Isn't this already up somewhere else?

I think where we are picking is realistic given our current o-line situation.

Tailgate
08-18-2005, 07:12 AM
Would take at least our 3rd and a 1st 2007.

Obviously your dreams are more realistic than mine. :texflag:

awtysst
08-18-2005, 09:07 AM
Isn't this already up somewhere else?

I think where we are picking is realistic given our current o-line situation.


Its way to early to say that though. Everyone in the NFL has the same record right now. Each year there is always a team that surprises and comes out of nowhere. The Panthers did it a couple of years back, the Chargers did it last year, the Texans could do it this year. I dont think its a good idea to concede a season that hasnt even started yet. At this point the Texans have as much chance as anyone of winning the superbowl: 1in 32.

TheOgre
08-18-2005, 10:50 AM
I think where we are picking is realistic given our current o-line situation.

We started with the 13th pick this year with the same line and with two of those linemen nursing injuries most of the year. Actually we were tied with the teams that drafted 14th and 15th in terms of records (all 7-9). So why would you think drafting 8th without a trade would make sense?

I honestly think we will end up with about the 18-20th pick and will have to trade up (and probably at a higher price than usual) to draft one of these premier tackles.

BigBull17
08-18-2005, 12:24 PM
:You know its flawed they have the cowboys picking in the mid 20's. I see them as top 5 this year
:texflag:

Algebrat
08-18-2005, 01:39 PM
I honestly think we will end up with about the 18-20th pick and will have to trade up (and probably at a higher price than usual) to draft one of these premier tackles.

I have no problem giving up a 2007 1st rounder (plus a mid to late rounder if needed) in order to trade up to select a top 10 LT. It sounds like a lot, but compared to the mess that position (among others) has caused, I think it's well worth the possibility of finding that player who could solidify the position for years to come.

beerlover
08-18-2005, 01:53 PM
We started with the 13th pick this year with the same line and with two of those linemen nursing injuries most of the year. Actually we were tied with the teams that drafted 14th and 15th in terms of records (all 7-9). So why would you think drafting 8th without a trade would make sense?

I honestly think we will end up with about the 18-20th pick and will have to trade up (and probably at a higher price than usual) to draft one of these premier tackles.


I agree with your assessment of around 18-20th pick Ogre, but who do you think the Texans would grade so high as to need to move up & why?

TheOgre
08-18-2005, 06:45 PM
I agree with your assessment of around 18-20th pick Ogre, but who do you think the Texans would grade so high as to need to move up & why?

Barring a major catastrophe of a season, we have zero chance of netting Ferguson. He is a probably a top 3 pick. There are what about 3-4 other guys that are "can't miss" quality like Winston, McNeil, and Scott? I think there might be a run on these guys in the early teens. We should be able to get one of these 3 if we draft around 10-12. Knowing the Texans, though, they will grade one of these guys way above the others. Who knows where we will have to end up to get THAT guy. I have no idea who THAT guy is. I often scratch my head when it comes to the Texan's preferences, so I won't even venture a guess.

beerlover
08-19-2005, 04:16 AM
Barring a major catastrophe of a season, we have zero chance of netting Ferguson. He is a probably a top 3 pick. There are what about 3-4 other guys that are "can't miss" quality like Winston, McNeil, and Scott? I think there might be a run on these guys in the early teens. We should be able to get one of these 3 if we draft around 10-12. Knowing the Texans, though, they will grade one of these guys way above the others. Who knows where we will have to end up to get THAT guy. I have no idea who THAT guy is. I often scratch my head when it comes to the Texan's preferences, so I won't even venture a guess.

Go Ahead Guess :ok:

Here is mine. The Texans do not need to trade up to get a offensive tackle that could help them out even if they do pick in the early 20's. Other than Marcus McNeil & D'Brickashaw Ferguson, both Winston & Scott could still be available and if not there is still a couple very good prospects in Andrew Whitworth, 6065 330 LSU & Ryan O'Callaghan, 6070 365 California. Of the two the Texans preference would probably be Whitworth because he is accomplished at the left tackle position. so there here you go the next 1st round pick of the Texans, I'm going to be overly positive here with the 23rd selection in the 2006 draft the Houston Texans select- http://media.scout.com/Media/Other/71_cover2511.JPG

Tremendous physical specimen who has been considered one of the top linemen in the country for the past two seasons ... A preseason All-America selection at offensive tackle entering the 2005 season ... Rated as the nation's third-best offensive tackle going into 2005 by The Sporting News ... Most imposing figure on the team and one of the biggest players to ever wear an LSU uniform at 6-7 and 325 pounds ... Punishing run blocker who also excels at pass blocking ... Has good quickness and is very athletic for a player his size ... Due to his height, actually looks slim despite weighing 325 pounds ... Has good range ... Displays sound technique and good footwork on the offensive line ... Goes into senior season with a chance to become the first player in school history to have 50 career starts ... Could also become the only player in school history to play in 50 games in a career ... Currently has started 39 straight games for the Tigers on the offensive line, a streak that dates back to the start of the 2002 season ... In three years with the Tigers, has played 2,691 snaps from scrimmage ... Opted to return to LSU for his senior season, bypassing the NFL Draft ... Is only three hours shy of graduating, which he will do in December.
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=71&p=8&c=1&nid=1353833

TheOgre
08-19-2005, 10:48 AM
That could be the answer. We shall see.

If we do trade up, I'd prefer that we trade our 2nd and one of our 3rd's as opposed to the 2007 1st. We may not have a choice though.

Corrosion
08-19-2005, 12:45 PM
That could be the answer. We shall see.

If we do trade up, I'd prefer that we trade our 2nd and one of our 3rd's as opposed to the 2007 1st. We may not have a choice though.


The Raiders own the Texans 2nd and 3rd rounders in the next draft .

With the current state of the Texans O-line and the lack of a Solid TE , I could easily see another 7-9 or worse season . The O-line could get it together and surprise us all .... which is what we all hope but if they dont its gonna be a long year :brickwall

texasguy346
08-19-2005, 12:55 PM
The Raiders own the Texans 2nd and 3rd rounders in the next draft .



I don't think so. I'm pretty sure Oakland received our 2nd Round pick in the 2005 NFL Draft as well as one of our two 3rd Round picks in the 2005 NFL Draft in exchange for Buchannon. We have all our picks for the 2006 NFL Draft as well as an extra 3rd Round pick that we got from New Orleans for trading down to 16.

TheOgre
08-19-2005, 01:40 PM
The Raiders received our 2005 2nd and 3rd. We had the Cowboy's 2005 3rd, which we used to draft Morency. Next year we have all of our own picks plus the Saint's 3rd.

Corrosion
08-19-2005, 03:41 PM
Oops , you two are right . :tomato: