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God of Wine
08-13-2005, 02:55 PM
Hey it's pre-season for the game thread also. :)

INJURY UPDATE: The following Texans will not play against Denver: SS Glenn Earl, WR Jabar Gaffney, TE Billy Miller, LB Zeke Moreno, S Jon Pendergrass, LB DaShon Polk, DT Daleroy Stewart, WR Sloan Thomas and C/G Todd Washington. WR Jerome Mathis (groin) is questionable.

Jason Simmons will start at strong safety; Victor Riley will start at left tackle.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news_images/players/payne/payne_broncos110704.jpg

GAMEDAY (http://www.houstontexans.com/gameday/games/game_p1.php)

Porky
08-13-2005, 03:42 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Walker sits. That's okay, as I am anxious to see TJ, and that would allow more PT for him. I really doubt Mathis will play. I was really looking forward to seeing him, as I never saw him play in college, other than a highlight reel. But, I would err on the side of caution there, as we need to make sure he doesn't agravate the hammy.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 03:44 PM
I think it's a groin injury.

ThaShark316
08-13-2005, 03:58 PM
Texans OUT....

(this is just in case yall didnt know why their out)

Thomas, Sloan WR (ankle)
Polk, Dashon LB (thumb)
Pendergrass, Jon CB (knee)
Washington, Todd C (ankle)
Stewart, Daleroy DT (hamstring)
Moreno, Zeke LB (leg)
Gaffney, JabarWR (shoulder)
Earl, Glenn S (shoulder)


From kffl.com

BTW....damn i'm happy to see official game threads again! :drool: :cool:

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 04:35 PM
Carr is suppose to play very little and very little may be too much. Its been stated so many times, but all eyes are going to be on the O-line and rightly so. I really hope that we are somehow better. With Mathis, Gaffny and Starling out it almost negates what we want to do with our receivers. Although Armstrong and Kasper are certainly worth watching. Kasper could be the go to guy in the red zone from what they are saying about his hands and feet. He could be one of those special guys. So much potentail offensively and we have to sit and cringe because of the O-line. The O-line stands between us and the playoffs and its as simple as that. I hope we have a good game and a minimum of injuries on both sides. GO TEXANS

Porky
08-13-2005, 04:44 PM
I am planning on recording the game, and then playing it back a couple of drives at a time throughout the week. I am going to pay particular attention to the offensive line, and speacial attention to the Wand - Riley battle at LT. By this time next week, I should have a better feel for both of those guys, and who may be ahead. Having said that, I just don't buy all this doom and gloom about the line like Ibar. I prefer to actually let my own eyes tell me. I am simply not going to pre-judge something until I see it. He may ultimately be right, but the last time I looked, battles are won and lost in the trenches, not a message board. I also think it's important that we not forget it is preseason. That means we will not be game planning. If anyone remembers the Pittsburgh game last year, you would have thought we would be 0-16. Their defense basically ran everything our offense was not prepared for. The potential is there for something like that. I am looking more for the one on one battles in the trenches, rather then the big picture of who wins or loses. The biggest thing is we come away with no major injuries!

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 04:59 PM
I am planning on recording the game, and then playing it back a couple of drives at a time throughout the week. I am going to pay particular attention to the offensive line, and speacial attention to the Wand - Riley battle at LT. By this time next week, I should have a better feel for both of those guys, and who may be ahead. Having said that, I just don't buy all this doom and gloom about the line like Ibar. I prefer to actually let my own eyes tell me. I am simply not going to pre-judge something until I see it. He may ultimately be right, but the last time I looked, battles are won and lost in the trenches, not a message board. I also think it's important that we not forget it is preseason. That means we will not be game planning. If anyone remembers the Pittsburgh game last year, you would have thought we would be 0-16. Their defense basically ran everything our offense was not prepared for. The potential is there for something like that. I am looking more for the one on one battles in the trenches, rather then the big picture of who wins or loses. The biggest thing is we come away with no major injuries!

Porky, I'm not going to disagree with you and I'm glad you are going to watch the O-line very closely. I will be very interested in reading your comments. I'm still not convinced that our O-line problems are not coaching related. For one, everyone talks about two people, Wand and McKinney, and many are convinced the biggest problem is McKinney, not Wand. But who do they pull 1st, Wand and replace him with a guy who has never played LT. But when I suggest Wiegert who has played and started at LT, I'm roasted and toasted.
The funny thing is all I want to see is a better O-line. I agree that what Denver does in this game may make it difficult to evaluate, but our O-line should be prepared to handle anything as should the offensive play calling. But we will be calling plays to see how certain people perform and points scored will not be the ultimate goal in this game. I think the special teams play should be very exciting despite Mathis being off the field. The two minute drill should be a lot of fun to watch. In that drill I would watch for Kasper.

BradK10
08-13-2005, 05:27 PM
the texans front office appreciates you guys watching the OL closely :rolleyes:

Porky
08-13-2005, 05:38 PM
the texans front office appreciates you guys watching the OL closely :rolleyes:

I know you are probably being facetious, but I prefer to be an educated fan. I am not going to rip the offensive line just to rip them. Any 15 yr old can come in here and bash the line. If I rip them this season, I want it to be because they need to be ripped, not because a bunch of message board monkeys come in here and mimic each other.

BradK10
08-13-2005, 06:16 PM
good then.

I'm sure Casserly will be on the phone with Ibar right after the game to find out his thoughts on the OLine

SmoochyTX
08-13-2005, 07:59 PM
Kickoff is next! I am so ready for some Texans football.

Go Texans!

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:01 PM
finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ccdude730
08-13-2005, 08:03 PM
HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im so excited about this game and the start of the season.


quit talking and get the show on the road......

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:04 PM
i hate comercials

Doom Capers
08-13-2005, 08:04 PM
I am watching on nfl.com, via play by play.......here in Ohio........yay.....

ccdude730
08-13-2005, 08:04 PM
i hate commercials too

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:06 PM
gametime

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:06 PM
texans kicking off. get to see the defense first. get ready

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:06 PM
Broncos recieve first

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:08 PM
26 yrd return by darrent williams

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:09 PM
G-Funk!

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:09 PM
Mike Anderson stopped behind the line

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:10 PM
3 and out

Good start so far

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:10 PM
Plummer throws deep behind Lelie, out of bounce. 3rd and 11 , Darius Watts drops ball.. 4th and 11

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:11 PM
Punt almost blocked, Swinton wrapped up immediatley

edo783
08-13-2005, 08:12 PM
Plummer throws deep behind Lelie, out of bounce. 3rd and 11 , Darius Watts drops ball.. 4th and 11

He was open AND behind PBuc. We were lucky it wasn't a touchdown.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:12 PM
True, he was. Quick pass to Andre, about 14 yard gain.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:12 PM
You can't stop AJ!!!

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:13 PM
DD nice run

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:13 PM
running game doing good so far

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:14 PM
Carr scrambles for first down.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:14 PM
Davis for 5 yards

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:15 PM
Weigert is down

It's his left knee

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:15 PM
wiegert down. not good.

ccdude730
08-13-2005, 08:15 PM
omg NOOOOOOOOOO

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:15 PM
Weigert is hurt!!!!!!!!!!! =[

DRIFTAWAY
08-13-2005, 08:15 PM
great...

ThaShark316
08-13-2005, 08:15 PM
OH GOD NO!!! Wiegert is hurt pretty bad. :(

its his knee. :crying:

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:16 PM
hope its not serious.

SmoochyTX
08-13-2005, 08:16 PM
Dammit.

Doom Capers
08-13-2005, 08:16 PM
Just what we need.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:16 PM
Well hes walkin thats good news. Phew

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:17 PM
atleast he's walking.

ccdude730
08-13-2005, 08:17 PM
"at least his leg came forward" nice commentary.

and lets blame riley


well, did anyone see mathis on the field?

BradK10
08-13-2005, 08:18 PM
f'ing NFL Network. Not showing or talking about this game at ALL.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:18 PM
Pass interference

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:18 PM
passinterference. first and goal.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:18 PM
DEF pass interference against Darrent Williams.

ThaShark316
08-13-2005, 08:18 PM
Good P.I. call...Williams mugged Bradford.

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:19 PM
f'ing NFL Network. Not showing or talking about this game at ALL.


just stay with the board, we'll keep you informed.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:19 PM
inches short

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:19 PM
robaire smith at fullback.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:19 PM
Robaire was in playing FB

ThaShark316
08-13-2005, 08:19 PM
Haha...Robaire at FB!! :highfive:

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:20 PM
Rob Smith took John Lynch out of the play lol, then John stops DD next play

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:20 PM
stuffed at the goal line again

ccdude730
08-13-2005, 08:20 PM
come on! we are still inches short with robaire at FB

ThaShark316
08-13-2005, 08:20 PM
4th and goal...3 runs, no dice.

GOIN FOR IT....

and....


STOPPED!


Lynch is the man still.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:20 PM
DD dident make it.. 4th and goal. Damn, im not liking our goal line offense for running.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:21 PM
Good grief. Stuffed at the goal line 4 times

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:21 PM
Stopped 4 times in a row.

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:21 PM
damn, got stuffed all 4 times.

ccdude730
08-13-2005, 08:22 PM
my goodness, zip zero zilch nada

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:22 PM
guess we'll just have to get a safety to make up for it.

BradK10
08-13-2005, 08:22 PM
just as i say something, they switch to the game

and Robaire looks trim...wow

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:23 PM
kinda wonder why we didn't atleast try one bootleg pass on that series.

awtysst
08-13-2005, 08:23 PM
how do you get the ball on the one, with first down and manage ot not get a td? SOmethign is seriously wrong. I would have called for a bootleg or somethign to break up the patten.

awtysst
08-13-2005, 08:23 PM
kinda wonder why we didn't atleast try one bootleg pass on that series.

Thank you.

rittenhouserobz
08-13-2005, 08:24 PM
It is preseason. DD will make that TD 95% of the time in the regular season

BradK10
08-13-2005, 08:25 PM
i'm not convinced he wasnt in on that first down play

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:25 PM
Dunta breaks it up. 4th down!

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:25 PM
D-Rob!!

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:25 PM
D-Rob!!!!!!!!!!

ThaShark316
08-13-2005, 08:26 PM
Plummer throws to the ghost of x-mas past or something...after the jailbreak blitz...3rd down...


and....

ROBINSON JARS THE BALL LOOSE!! D-Rob still the man!

awtysst
08-13-2005, 08:26 PM
It is preseason. DD will make that TD 95% of the time in the regular season

Preseason or not, with four tries on your opponent 1 yd line, you should be able to get the ball in.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:26 PM
Good return by Swinton

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:26 PM
Nice return by swinton

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:26 PM
swinton, nice return.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:27 PM
True pre-season or not, when you try to run the ball in 4 times at the 1 and fail. You need to do some more work. Im sure capers will focus on that some more during the preseason.

Doom Capers
08-13-2005, 08:28 PM
Preseason or not, with four tries on your opponent 1 yd line, you should be able to get the ball in.




I agree

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:28 PM
Preseason or not, with four tries on your opponent 1 yd line, you should be able to get the ball in.


yeah, but we were trying robaire at fullback and we ran 4 running plays. i think it might be different in a real game. just my take

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:28 PM
carr is done for the night.

SmoochyTX
08-13-2005, 08:29 PM
Good job Wells.

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:30 PM
2 nice runs from wells

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:31 PM
9 yard pass to armstrong. 3rd and 1

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:32 PM
first down wells

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:32 PM
weigert getting xrays on left knee and ankle.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:32 PM
delay of game

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:32 PM
I see Mathis :o

awtysst
08-13-2005, 08:33 PM
carr is done for the night.

already?
damn that was fast. Any assesments?

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:33 PM
False start on Hogdon

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:33 PM
2 penalties in a row. delay of game and false start

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:34 PM
Nice Murphy..

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:34 PM
Touchdown Matt Murphy!!

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:34 PM
banks to murphy touchdown.

awtysst
08-13-2005, 08:34 PM
banks to murphy touchdown.

murphy?

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:35 PM
I saw Mathis run by his guy on that play thought -_- but I think a Safety moved over to his side.

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:35 PM
already?
damn that was fast. Any assesments?


well he was on when he passed, but he only threw like 3-4 passes. didn't get hit any, so thats good.

RTP2110
08-13-2005, 08:36 PM
Man, someone needs to tell ABC 13 to show some friggin replays!!!

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:36 PM
murphy?


TE, matt murphy #81

Texans Pride
08-13-2005, 08:36 PM
Nice TD!

That was a nice play!

edo783
08-13-2005, 08:36 PM
Should be 14 zip, but I will take 7 zip. Good job by both offenses (1st & 2nd team) and the defense.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:36 PM
Well so far, defense looks tough against the run and pass. I think were gonna have a top 15 defense this year possibly. Offense looks good, Carr looks comfortable on boot legs, were gonna need alot of those if our oline is dealt with injuries again. Armstrong looks like hes gonna be a factor again, Wells looks like hes still solid as always.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:37 PM
That was against Denver's 1st team D right?

Doom Capers
08-13-2005, 08:37 PM
Maybe we have found our tight end solution?

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:38 PM
i believe so, atleast some of them.

edo783
08-13-2005, 08:38 PM
That was against Denver's 1st team D right?

Yes, our 2nd scored on thier 1st.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:38 PM
Yea. Our 2nd team offense just scored on Denvers first team defense, however they are without Champ and a Dlineman i think

RTP2110
08-13-2005, 08:38 PM
Whoa, it looks weird seeing a Texans jersey #55 without the dreadlocks hanging out.

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:38 PM
Maybe we have found our tight end solution?


if we get TE play like that, we're gonna have a big year.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:38 PM
I dont know about a solution to our TE problem, but he definately showed something.

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:39 PM
starling looks hurt, nothing big though.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:40 PM
Ouch that head to head collision looked lk it hurt

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:40 PM
denver is still playing first team offense.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:41 PM
Nice open field tackle by Peek

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:43 PM
Buch just got beat by Lelie

TigerBait
08-13-2005, 08:44 PM
Phillip just got beat, good technique just bad positioning.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:44 PM
Ya, its gonna happen. Aslong as he shows that good tech all year he'll be fine.

southtexan
08-13-2005, 08:45 PM
Nice open field tackle by Peek
Guys, keep up with the updates, I live in south Texas and unfortunately this is cowgirls country.

BradK10
08-13-2005, 08:46 PM
this is great, but i'm leaving to go to the Cardinals/Cowgirls game. thanks for the info folks

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:46 PM
Weigert - sprained ankle

PHEW!!

TigerBait
08-13-2005, 08:46 PM
Sprained ankle for Wiegert!!! WHEW

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 08:47 PM
He has been having ankle problems all TC.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:47 PM
Travis Johnson is in

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:48 PM
Nice drive by Denver.

tonybob111
08-13-2005, 08:49 PM
First and goal. no points BUT next time they looked good. I AGREE Texan success will depend on the OL.
Git,er done

awtysst
08-13-2005, 08:49 PM
Guys, keep up with the updates, I live in south Texas and unfortunately this is cowgirls country.

you can follow the game on nfl.com, but i agree I like these updates too (living in Bear Country)

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:49 PM
Wow the kick was almost blocked too. I tell you what, we might get alot of punt/kick blocks this year

BradK10
08-13-2005, 08:49 PM
really liked what i saw from TJ, great quickness in the interior of that line

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:49 PM
hey south texan, im in south texas also. it's on channel 15 KTOV, im in corpus christi

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:50 PM
wtf look at Johnson's haircut

TigerBait
08-13-2005, 08:52 PM
Travis sportin' the Mr.T haircut.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:53 PM
Wow, Darrent Williams just sent J.Wells flying.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:54 PM
hollings catches a tipped short pass and takes it for a nice gain.

Errant Hothy
08-13-2005, 08:54 PM
Does the fact that Banks is getting these snaps instead fo Ragone mean that Tony is still the Second QB? Just that the Dave had done enough in NFLE to atleat get a look with some of teh 1st teamers on O.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:54 PM
Hollings just got killed in the backfield by Ekuban

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:55 PM
TJ's hair is awesome. lol

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:55 PM
Hollings got a nice hole on that gain.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:55 PM
Apparently the whole Dline's hair is cut

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:56 PM
then he ran for a nice gain. now its 4th

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 08:56 PM
the same haircut as TJs? Even Seth Payne?

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:56 PM
Banks pass for Swinton too high, punt time

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:57 PM
Idk they just said it wasent a individual thing, the whole dline did it

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:57 PM
nice punt by stanley, just couldn't keep it from going into the endzone.

dtran04
08-13-2005, 08:58 PM
Think they said that the DLine made him do it. Kind of an initiation I guess.

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 08:58 PM
Well the Defense wants to be known as the "A TEAM".

ATX
08-13-2005, 08:59 PM
texans leading in all stats, and denver has played first team 3 drives, houston only one.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 08:59 PM
Nice chase and tackle by TJ

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 09:00 PM
Wow QB draw by Van Pelt and ran for like 25-30 yards..

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:00 PM
wow, nice run by their backup QB. made us look bad.

TigerBait
08-13-2005, 09:01 PM
We just made Van Pelt look like Mike Vick, eww.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 09:01 PM
40 yd run

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 09:01 PM
were doing good against the run tho, the draw screwed us :o

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:01 PM
looks like tj is involved in every play.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 09:01 PM
Babin with a sack!

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 09:01 PM
Sack by jason babin

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:01 PM
babin, pressure then sack

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 09:02 PM
2nd big play that has hurt us.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 09:02 PM
Ouch Peek just got smashed by their tackle. lol

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 09:03 PM
can't let offenses convert on 3rd and long like that during the regular season

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 09:03 PM
Peek is showing good awareness though

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 09:03 PM
Big play on 3rd down.............

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:04 PM
nice stuff by charlie anderson.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 09:04 PM
Too high for watts in the endzone. penalty on broncos, movement

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:05 PM
offside defense, wtf. what about false start on their LT.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 09:05 PM
false starrt on denver

TigerBait
08-13-2005, 09:05 PM
Peek just schooled thier tackle and they call offsides on him :rolleyes:

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:06 PM
we're really playing good against the run. minus that QB scramble.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 09:06 PM
Texans are leaving their OLB's in

TigerBait
08-13-2005, 09:06 PM
only first team defensive players in are PBuch and Babin i think.

southtexan
08-13-2005, 09:07 PM
hey south texan, im in south texas also. it's on channel 15 KTOV, im in corpus christi
I live in the McAllen area.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:08 PM
3rd and long. will we stop them?

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:09 PM
faggins stops rice in the endzone, nice.

rmartin65
08-13-2005, 09:10 PM
i hate being in ohio. thanks for the play by play

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:10 PM
10-7 broncos.

edo783
08-13-2005, 09:10 PM
Nice play by Faggins.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 09:11 PM
Ball would of been out of bounce anyways, but nice play

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 09:12 PM
Holding on Cheatwood :p

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:12 PM
swinton looks slow on returns.

edo783
08-13-2005, 09:13 PM
At least I am getting to see the game on the Denver station, but the homer announcers are driving me crazy.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:13 PM
hollings runs for 4 on 1st down.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:14 PM
At least I am getting to see the game on the Denver station, but the homer announcers are driving me crazy.

any examples?

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 09:14 PM
I wanna see morency alredy

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:14 PM
2 false starts on hogdon. hollings runs for 2. 3rd and 8 now.

edo783
08-13-2005, 09:15 PM
any examples?

All Broncos all the time. Hardly would know the Texans where playing as they seldom mention them.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:16 PM
swinton looked bad on that play. totally missed his route.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:17 PM
31 yard punt by stanley. 2:17 left.

edo783
08-13-2005, 09:18 PM
So far first team to first team, pretty equal. It looks like their seconds are better than ours. Just better quality at depth I guess.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:19 PM
they have played alot more 1st team than us.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:22 PM
ragone should be coming in now. lets see what he can do. denver punting now.

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 09:23 PM
They will go for it.............

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:23 PM
banks is finishing the half up. 1 minute left. 3 timeouts.

DoCt3rJ
08-13-2005, 09:24 PM
Darrent Williams makin some nice tackles

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:25 PM
holding on weary. took away a 9 yard run by hollings.

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 09:25 PM
Swinton is gone based on this game..................

vtech9
08-13-2005, 09:25 PM
how does Swinton look? Do you think he will make the team?

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:26 PM
halftime. 10-7 broncos.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:27 PM
how does Swinton look? Do you think he will make the team?


he looks slow on returns. had a nice 18 yard punt return though. doesn't seem to be all that great at receiver though. dropped a pass and missed a route bad. he was way off.

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 09:27 PM
Killed the clock to end the half. Actually was a good call by Capers.

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 09:28 PM
he looks slow on returns. had a nice 18 yard punt return though. doesn't seem to be all that great at receiver though. dropped a pass and missed a route bad. he was way off.

Yes, but he's no JJ....................

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:29 PM
he really hasn't shown anything better than jj as of yet.

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 09:29 PM
I think his performance solidifys Mathis's position on the team....

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 09:31 PM
What's positive so far???????????????????

What's bad so far????????????????????

F-minus67
08-13-2005, 09:32 PM
How has TJ looked so far?

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:34 PM
positives: defense look good against the run. 1st team offense looked pretty good. carr was sharp. nice TD by murphy. DD, wells and hollings have been running alright. babin sack.

negatives. Pbuch got beat. 4 times on the goalline and no TD. let their backup QB run for about 25. swinton dropped a couple of passes.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:34 PM
How has TJ looked so far?

you see his number alot. been involved in alot of plays.

edo783
08-13-2005, 09:36 PM
What's positive so far???????????????????

What's bad so far????????????????????


Defense was solid on the run and offense moved the ball. TJ looked good. Hollings ran well. DHog did "OK" except when Denver was showing Blitz, then he jumped the gun. Just over ancsouse (sp).

Seems like our backups are not all NFL quality. Big drop off when in.

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 09:38 PM
positives: defense look good against the run. 1st team offense looked pretty good. carr was sharp. nice TD by murphy. DD, wells and hollings have been running alright.

negatives. Pbuch got beat. 4 times on the goalline and no TD. let their backup QB run for about 25.

Question? Are we seeing what they said Palmer would be doing with the play book. From what I'm reading and hearing it looks like last year all over again. I know its preseason and they're evaluating personnel, but it has the same old same old look. Am I wrong...............

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:38 PM
Defense was solid on the run and offense moved the ball. TJ looked good. Hollings ran well. DHog did "OK" except when Denver was showing Blitz, then he jumped the gun. Just over ancsouse (sp).

Seems like our backups are not all NFL quality. Big drop off when in.


denver played alot more first team offense than the texans.

edo783
08-13-2005, 09:39 PM
Question? Are we seeing what they said Palmer would be doing with the play book. From what I'm reading and hearing it looks like last year all over again. I know its preseason and they're evaluating personnel, but it has the same old same old look. Am I wrong...............

Looks like we will be VERY run oriented, but the quick toss is in. Not running many slants yet.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:39 PM
Question? Are we seeing what they said Palmer would be doing with the play book. From what I'm reading and hearing it looks like last year all over again. I know its preseason and they're evaluating personnel, but it has the same old same old look. Am I wrong...............


its preseason. i don't think they're gonna throw all the new stuff out yet.

Errant Hothy
08-13-2005, 09:40 PM
On a side note JP losman is 6 of 13 for 58 yards.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:41 PM
here comes ragone.

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 09:42 PM
its preseason. i don't think they're gonna throw all the new stuff out yet.

Seems like a quick ball control game to me. I'm wondering how much they are really getting in the way of information. I would think they would show some of what they are trying to do. Makes me kind of suspicious about the season.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:42 PM
first pass off. second pass tipped.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:43 PM
Seems like a quick ball control game to me. I'm wondering how much they are really getting in the way of information. I would think they would show some of what they are trying to do. Makes me kind of suspicious about the season.


you're always suspicious.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:44 PM
simmons nice tackle on the punt. 3 yard loss on return. great coverage.

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 09:45 PM
you're always suspicious.

Have a right to be? But, I'm really being serious. If we have made as many changes as David said we have and its really all different, then you would think we would notice it.

Errant Hothy
08-13-2005, 09:48 PM
Have a right to be? But, I'm really being serious. If we have made as many changes as David said we have and its really all different, then you would think we would notice it.

You wouldn't see it in the preseason. This is the time to look at the kids and run the most vanilla offense you can. But like you I'm questioning the changes, but I'll wait till the first regualr season game to pass judgement.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:53 PM
Have a right to be? But, I'm really being serious. If we have made as many changes as David said we have and its really all different, then you would think we would notice it.

i didn't see carr get pressured or sacked. thats a difference. but really, this is the first preseason game and i doubt they're gonna pull the whole playbook out. carr and DD played one series and we really didn't get to see much.

southtexan
08-13-2005, 09:53 PM
You wouldn't see it in the preseason. This is the time to look at the kids and run the most vanilla offense you can. But like you I'm questioning the changes, but I'll wait till the first regualr season game to pass judgement.
This is the preseseason. There's no game planning.

Errant Hothy
08-13-2005, 09:54 PM
This is the preseseason. There's no game planning.

I know and that's what I'm saying. Even if Palmer has made changes in the offense you won't see them tonight.

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 09:54 PM
Texans:
6 for 11 for 77 yards passing.
17 carries for 58 yards rushing.

Denver:
10 for 16 for 115 yards passing.
13 carries for 77 yards rushing.

Denver ran a more balanced attack than we did with the same number of plays and had 192 yards vs our 145 yards.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:55 PM
nice run by morency.

vtech9
08-13-2005, 09:56 PM
one thing I have noticed by following the game on NFL.com, is that our run defense is looking really good.

ATX
08-13-2005, 09:56 PM
Texans:
6 for 11 for 77 yards passing.
17 carries for 58 yards rushing.

Denver:
10 for 16 for 115 yards passing.
13 carries for 77 yards rushing.

Denver ran a more balanced attack than we did with the same number of plays and had 192 yards vs our 145 yards.


and denver played plummer for 3 series. we played carr and DD for one series. plus they got lucky with that 25 yard scramble by their backup QB.

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 09:57 PM
and denver played plummer for 3 series. we played carr and DD for one series.

Lets see what the 2nd half looks like. I was just giving the stats for everyone to see.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 09:58 PM
More than half of Denvers rushing yards came off 1 Van Pelt scramble

edo783
08-13-2005, 09:59 PM
and denver played plummer for 3 series. we played carr and DD for one series. plus they got lucky with that 25 yard scramble by their backup QB.

Actually, I think it was 40 yards by the QB. We have been stout against the run. Also, they played their first team much longer than we did.

ATX
08-13-2005, 10:01 PM
yep they're stillplaying their backup QB and we're already playing ragone.

Ibar_Harry
08-13-2005, 10:02 PM
The QB gets a lot more yards generally when your running the zone blocking scheme....

edo783
08-13-2005, 10:02 PM
Nice pass breakup by Bell.

Texas_Heat
08-13-2005, 10:02 PM
Looks like they still has suck a__ backups :brickwall

ATX
08-13-2005, 10:05 PM
ragone sacked. minus 5. morency looking good so far.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 10:06 PM
Morency has been impressive

ATX
08-13-2005, 10:06 PM
nice pass to kasper for a first down.

edo783
08-13-2005, 10:07 PM
Nice pitch and catch to Casper. Morency had a NICE cut block on a Blitzer up the middle.

ATX
08-13-2005, 10:10 PM
ragone has had 2 passes tipped.

ATX
08-13-2005, 10:11 PM
texans punt coverage has been really good. nice take down by shante orr just now.

edo783
08-13-2005, 10:12 PM
Special teams coverage has looked real good. Only one run back of more than about 5 yards.

ATX
08-13-2005, 10:14 PM
TJ roughing the passer, head first call, BS call IMO

ATX
08-13-2005, 10:14 PM
nice blitz and sack by shante orr. nice

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-13-2005, 10:15 PM
What was wrong with TJs hit?

ATX
08-13-2005, 10:16 PM
texans 2nd and 3rd team secondary not looking good.

ATX
08-13-2005, 10:17 PM
What was wrong with TJs hit?

he lead with the crown of the helmet.

ATX
08-13-2005, 10:18 PM
rookie chris mckenzie forced fumble, but they recovered it. damnit

edo783
08-13-2005, 10:22 PM
Troy Evans has mad a couple of nice plays.

Wolf
08-13-2005, 10:22 PM
he lead with the crown of the helmet.


funny thing is that is how the coaches taught me how to tackle.. put your head into the numbers

ATX
08-13-2005, 10:22 PM
cc brown almost had the interception. broncos up by 6. 13-7

ATX
08-13-2005, 10:23 PM
funny thing is that is how the coaches taught me how to tackle.. put your head into the numbers


thats how i was taught too. i guess you can't do that to QBs these days.