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Huge
07-04-2004, 01:34 PM
Quietly, I've grown tired of hearing about his "6th rounder to hero" story. It's almost reached Kurt Warner's status.

But now I have this...Tom Terrific is upset... (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1833050)

Guy has pretty much everything you can want in life but damn GM if they're going to be late delivering my free, new $76,000 car simply because I changed my mind after asking for a free, new Escalade.

I now officially do not like Tom Brady...and it's justifiable.

Frailty
07-04-2004, 03:00 PM
The guy has the money to drive whatever kind of car he wants.
You know how many cars Jay Leno has?
Or Shaq? and You think they drive them all? Maybe 5 times a year, so does it really matter to you? It's not even a character flaw its a matter of what he likes and doesn't. Brady is a leader, on the field and off.

Huge
07-04-2004, 05:50 PM
The guy has the money to drive whatever kind of car he wants.
You know how many cars Jay Leno has?
Or Shaq? and You think they drive them all? Maybe 5 times a year, so does it really matter to you? It's not even a character flaw its a matter of what he likes and doesn't. Brady is a leader, on the field and off.

Here's a recap of what the article says...

1. As Super Bowl MVP, Tom Brady is allowed to pick whatever Cadillac he wants (he originally wanted a tricked out Escalade)...free of charge (giving "free" anything to millionaires is in itself a joke).

2. Cadillac informs him that since the vehicle he requested was not yet in production it would take a little longer to deliver (you would think a millionaire wouldn't be put off by the fact he's going to have to wait for his "free" $70,000 vehicle).

3. In April, Brady changes his order for an XLR Roadster - retail $76,200 (none of these were available as GM sold all 5,000 that they made). So GM obliges the millionaire by making another specifically for Brady. Again...free of charge.

4. Lastly, a quote from Brady summarizing his entire horrific ordeal - "I'm not driving [the] car, that's for sure," Brady said. "It's the damndest thing I ever heard. It's ridiculous."

Nah...not a character flaw at all.

Joe Texan
07-04-2004, 06:23 PM
Tom Brady can stick the MVP football where the sun don't shine. His hat munching fan sealed that deal with me. I hope the patriots get dismantled this season.

Porky
07-04-2004, 06:26 PM
I agree with Huge. I have lost some respect for Brady because of this for sure. I think the whole deal with MVP's and such getting cars and other extravagant gifts in exchange for advertising and sponsorships is a scandle in itself, much less how Brady has handled it. If they want to donate a car in return for some air time, I have no problem with that. If they want to call it the "Cadallic MVP", I have no problem with that either. Now, what I DO have a problem with is giving that car/cash to a guy who makes more in a year that the GNP of most small countries. That car or cash equilvent should have been donated by GM to a homeless or abused woman's shelter, maybe an underprivleged youth sports program, et al. If it were me, and I was the MVP, I would raffle it off, donate it, or sell it and donate the cash to a needy cause. There are only about 25 billion more deserving and needy people and/or programs than Tom Brady or any other spoiled athlete. Pathetic. :baby: :rollbaby:

hot4SteveMcNair
07-04-2004, 07:43 PM
TB sure came off as spoiled and bratty in that piece.

I've seen Tom Brady come of as spoiled and bratty on many an occasion. He's always seemed rather immature to me. I don't question his playing ability but I definitely don't care for him personally.

If he decides that it's just taking too long to get his car and he doesn't want to wait... they can call me when it comes available (for free) and I'll take it. ;)

JustBonee
07-04-2004, 11:00 PM
Yeah, not coming across very well TB.
There are people with real problems .. and then there are RICH athletes with problems. Myself, if I had their $$$$$$.. I would have a chauffeur & limo 24/7!

HowBoutThemCowboys!
07-06-2004, 11:25 AM
Why cant Brady just buy the car he wants instead of ordering it

chicagotexan
07-06-2004, 11:46 AM
You evil people. Where's your simpathy. I am starting a Caddys-for-rich as hell-athletes-who-need more free stuff-ordinary joes-like us have to work our *****es off to get fund. Please find it in your hearts to send all checks or money orders to me, ChicagoTexan. I'll see to it that this kind of injustice never happens again. I'll take cash if writing checks or money orders is too much trouble. Lucky, Vinny - your job is to set up an account for me, preferably Swiss. Thank you, god will remember your kind gesture, and so will I.

texasguy346
07-06-2004, 02:02 PM
http://www.new-cars.com/news/photos/030414-2004-cadillac-xlr.jpg

Now that is a car worth whining about :D

TheOgre
07-07-2004, 12:03 PM
I have a feeling this article is only telling one side of the story. I agree, though, Brady does sound like a whinny little kid.

StarStruck
07-07-2004, 03:50 PM
I have a feeling this article is only telling one side of the story. I agree, though, Brady does sound like a whinny little kid.

If the car was part of Brady's earnings, then, perhaps a disappointment in the delivery schedule is understandable. If the car was a gift, it would be nice if Brady would have been a gracious recipient. Even if he has a different opinion on the selection and how it was handled, it seems impolite to criticize the person/company giving him a present.

Lucky
07-07-2004, 04:20 PM
One thing to remember is that Brady has already "won" a Caddy from his 2002 SB MVP performance (should have gone to Ty Law). In fact, Brady has had a business relationship with Cadillac since 2002 (see this (http://www.prdomain.com/companies/g/gm/news_releases/200207july/pr_gm_nr_20020703.htm) and this (http://www.xlrroadster.com/_wsn/page12.html)).

Cadillac didn't really "give" Brady these cars...they paid him for services rendered. That 2 parties in a business relationship have a disagreement isn't really that big of a deal.

powda
07-07-2004, 06:20 PM
the whole article is undoubtedly one sided. selected quotes that make brady look like an ***. no doubt in my mind more was said by him then what we read. also funny that the article dosent tell how long brady wouldve had to wait on the first car to be made. if we're looking at 6-9 months wouldnt it be natural over some time to start thinking about a diffrent model? one you wouldnt have to wait on.

whats the big deal? because he's a celebrity and wealthy we hold him to a diffrent standard. the man is entitled ,as we all are, to change his mind. he's also entitled to not wait till 2005. :dontknowa

Porky
07-07-2004, 10:26 PM
the whole article is undoubtedly one sided. selected quotes that make brady look like an ***. no doubt in my mind more was said by him then what we read. also funny that the article dosent tell how long brady wouldve had to wait on the first car to be made. if we're looking at 6-9 months wouldnt it be natural over some time to start thinking about a diffrent model? one you wouldnt have to wait on.

whats the big deal? because he's a celebrity and wealthy we hold him to a diffrent standard. the man is entitled ,as we all are, to change his mind. he's also entitled to not wait till 2005. :dontknowa


Entitled? Entitled to a free car on his terms? I would say some things but I feel a censorship conspiracy about to happen :tiptoe:

powda
07-08-2004, 07:25 PM
You try getting Detroit to open up the assembly line for one car. It ain't gonna happen.

your right vinny ,but then i'm no superbowl mvp.


Entitled? Entitled to a free car on his terms?

i said he was entitled to change his mind.

the article only displays one side of the arrgument. brady may or may not be an *** for this ,but do we have enough facts to have an objective opinion about brady's character? i dont think so.

and while gm may have gone well out of their way to please brady by starting up an assembly line, do we even know what their original terms were? perhaps gm forgot to stipulate wich vehicles the mvp could or couldnt choose. if thats the case would you blame brady? and i guess you guys forgot gm's comercial after comercial before, during ,and after the superbowl. they had no problem at the time pimping themselves as the sponsor of the superbowl mvp award.

just because the author of this article rants the sky is falling dosent mean i believe him. not without looking up at least. eek:

powda
07-08-2004, 11:59 PM
after rereading the article i keep thinking we took brady's quote out of context.

(from the article)

Brady, who as Super Bowl MVP in 2002 received his Cadillac Escalade within weeks of leading the Patriots to victory over the St. Louis Rams, told ESPN's Chris Mortensen on Tuesday that he was upset that he had not yet received his order for this year's car.


"I'm not driving [the] car, that's for sure," Brady said. "It's the damndest thing I ever heard. It's ridiculous."

---------------------------

how did you read that?

a. i refuse to drive this vehicle.

b. im not driving the car because i STILL dont have it. ( it didnt take nearly this long last time ).

just a thought. if you apply the quote to what the author refered to directly before the quote...brady's comment dosen't sound nearly as asinine.

:hmmm:

Pruzoo
07-09-2004, 01:22 AM
:eek: You mean he is stuck driving a 2 year old Escalade that he didn't have to pay for either? HORROR!!!! SHOCK!!! DISMAY!!!!! He is a victim, lets have a telethon so we can cure this terrible problem.
Sure, he should be able to gripe about waiting, but in the long run he looks like a jerk. In the list of tragedies in the world "Rich Athelete Has to Wait on Free Car" isn't high on most people's priority list of things to worry about.

powda
07-09-2004, 02:00 AM
ohhh, the travesty of wealth. people care so much less about your problems.
:rolleyes:

gm is still a buisness. in buisness you either render a service or a product (as was promised by gm's own free will in the intrest of getting attention). gm HAD delivered neither.

are there more pressing matters in the world? yup. and i didnt start this thread.

powda
07-09-2004, 03:03 AM
i dunno vin. we have no indication as to wether or not he knew the vehicle was out of production when he made the order. undoubtedly that would probably change my opinion a lot either way.

im just not ready to change my view of someone's character because some pissed off espn writer says i should. i think theres more to this then we can know. obviously im in the minority here ,and i'm willing to think gm played a part in this "debacle" we havent been told about. plus i enjoy rooting for the underdog i guess.

:bag:

powda
07-09-2004, 12:00 PM
you are defending him like he is your Son.

and your defending gm like you used to work there...ohhh wait.



My goodness. I used to work for GMAC

:um:


You are inferring that we have changed our opinion of Brady over this. At times people do questionable things but that doesn't mean we would instantly change our opinions of them (that would be a bit shallow).

vin i'm not inferring anything. i don't need to.


I now officially do not like Tom Brady...and it's justifiable.

I agree with Huge. I have lost some respect for Brady because of this for sure.

now I officially announce that I don't like him either.


:um:


i would go on about how we dont have brady's side of the arrgument, or how gm got all the attention they wanted during the superbowl ,were slow to make a return on their promise, brady probably could of picked a half dozen vehicles wich were more expensive and or out of production, and how the author of the article clearly went out of his way to demean brady. i could do all of those things...but i might be late for a father son golf tournament. tom will be here to pick me up in his new car soon.

:hehe:

One decision does not make a bad man, but it can give us a clue or two about the person.

bro, there are prisions full of people who made one bad decision.

powda
07-09-2004, 12:22 PM
vin. i'm really not hot and bothered about this ,and i hope your not either. this entire issue is really very insignifigant. wether brady or gm gets a black eye for this, the sun will still rise and set tommorow (unless the author tells me otherwise :) ).

im just amazed at how quickly people change their tune due to an article that only has one side of the story ,and dosent really reveal all that many facts.

i'm dropping the issue. it's not worth getting into a "name calling contest" with one of the few people i know here well enough to respect.

and for what its worth brady is not my idol. i told you, hes my son. :~

Huge
07-09-2004, 02:16 PM
after rereading the article i keep thinking we took brady's quote out of context.

(from the article)

Brady, who as Super Bowl MVP in 2002 received his Cadillac Escalade within weeks of leading the Patriots to victory over the St. Louis Rams, told ESPN's Chris Mortensen on Tuesday that he was upset that he had not yet received his order for this year's car.


"I'm not driving [the] car, that's for sure," Brady said. "It's the damndest thing I ever heard. It's ridiculous."

---------------------------

how did you read that?

a. i refuse to drive this vehicle.

b. im not driving the car because i STILL dont have it. ( it didnt take nearly this long last time ).

just a thought. if you apply the quote to what the author refered to directly before the quote...brady's comment dosen't sound nearly as asinine.

:hmmm:

I think both of those reads shed a bad light on Brady:

A. He rufuses to drive the vehicle = Spoiled Brat because he's not getting what he wants, when he wants.

B. He's not driving the vehicle because he doesn't have it = Spoiled Brat because he's already a millionaire who's upset over not having his new toy.

And his quote "It's the damndest thing I ever heard. It's ridiculous." illustrates his frustration...no matter how it's spun. Either way, he's behavior is still asinine.

powda
07-09-2004, 04:26 PM
:bag:

( i am mute with indiffrence . )

Pruzoo
07-10-2004, 02:03 AM
It doesn't make any difference if it was Brady, or if ______?_____ did the same thing it would still be irksome. GM would have been better off telling him to go to any car lot of his choice and pick something. No waiting and maybe no whining.

StarStruck
07-10-2004, 02:24 AM
This would probably be an unfortunate situation for the next MVP and the question of what kind of demands would be attached. Worse yet, if Brady gets it again next year would probably put a damper on any GM awards ceremony. They would probaly question if they could just give the dude a check and be done with it.

CaptainPatriot
07-18-2004, 03:57 PM
Wow, If that is all you guys on here can come up with on Brady. How can you get upset over this! Who cares what car he gets, how he gets it or if he changes his mind! It is trivial. idonno: You should be bring up discussions for players who get DUI'S ( not going to say any names)Drug Possession etc.

Thank God he doesn't get confused reading defenses like he does ordering Cars. Maybe he should have just stuck with going to Disney World :rofl:


Let's get camp started!!! :popcorn: Stop player hating!!