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Holden135
08-01-2005, 08:02 PM
I just saw it on the channel 13 news. He got into it with some o-lineman, nobody i recognized. He may be getting a reputation as a loose cannon and somewhat of a hard ***** but i think its a good thing. The Texans have too many nice guys on the team. We need some tenacity especially on the defensive side of the ball. Ray Lewis and the Ravens have that hit em' in the mouth mentality and thats why they are a great defense. With Peak and Johnson out there we may strike some fear in the minds of the opposing offense. Thats just my opinion.

Grid
08-01-2005, 08:18 PM
Rookie growing pains.. someone probably giving him lip for being a day late :)

good for Johnson.. like ya said.. we need some fire on our D. I hope it was McKinney :)

Fldvldog
08-01-2005, 08:21 PM
I just saw it on the channel 13 news. He got into it with some o-lineman, nobody i recognized. He may be getting a reputation as a loose cannon and somewhat of a hard ***** but i think its a good thing. The Texans have too many nice guys on the team. We need some tenacity especially on the defensive side of the ball. Ray Lewis and the Ravens have that hit em' in the mouth mentality and thats why they are a great defense. With Peak and Johnson out there we may strike some fear in the minds of the opposing offense. Thats just my opinion.

Not a good start...

Vinny
08-01-2005, 08:30 PM
Fighting is not necessarily a bad thing in training camp. We used to see a heck of a lot more out of the Oiler camps. We could use some fire and attitude.

Paragon Blue
08-01-2005, 08:31 PM
does anybody know who it was against?

Wolf
08-01-2005, 08:37 PM
I don't think it is a bad thing. I think it is one of those things where the rookie is trying to establish himself. I could see one or two fights, but after that there shouldn't be anymore (by one person).. Only reason is that you don't want to see that on Sunday afternoon in critical situations.

Wolf
08-01-2005, 08:38 PM
Fighting is not necessarily a bad thing in training camp. We used to see a heck of a lot more out of the Oiler camps. We could use some fire and attitude.

And I exactly agree with that... if he has that fire, I also want to see in the future a firery guy on the OL that gets upset when Carr is touched.

Wolf
08-01-2005, 08:49 PM
AMEN!

maybe a John Runyan type :heh:
in the future

JDizzle
08-01-2005, 08:55 PM
does anybody know who it was against?

#61 I think. I mentioned it in another thread. I believe they said it was some free agent lineman or something.

Vinny
08-01-2005, 09:12 PM
Notable: Saturday, it was his first pro contract. Sunday, it was his first practice. And Monday morning saw first-round pick Travis Johsnon’s first fight as a Texan.

During an 11-on-11 drill, the defensive end got into it with fellow rookie Tim Brown, an offensive tackle. After an exchange of shoves the two wrestled each other to the ground, where they were broken up, and nothing more was made of the incident.

“It’s a part of training camp,” Capers said after the morning session. “Everybody has it.”

But Capers discouraged fighting, saying that emotions must be kept under control as practice for the regular season when extracurricular activities will cost the team 15 yards. So it will cost the rookies too.

“Anytime we have a fight now, there’s going to be two guys that get fined.” http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3291090

gwallaia
08-01-2005, 10:00 PM
As long as no one tears an ACL during one of these fights, its ok.

El Tejano
08-01-2005, 10:13 PM
As long as no one tears an ACL during one of these fights, its ok.
Dude keep those 3 letters to yourself. We are actually having people at practice these days.

I want a mean defense and maybe this kid can light some fire into our D.

ArlingtonTexan
08-01-2005, 10:15 PM
There will be a fight in every camp. I have said this before....guys with at minimum 250,000 a year jobs on the line, where the guys are expected to be physical, in 100 degree heat...think about.

rmartin65
08-01-2005, 10:16 PM
good point

TEXANS84
08-01-2005, 11:45 PM
There was no fight in tonights practice, although Travis made Weary look like a high school lineman.

aj.
08-02-2005, 12:00 AM
Fire is nice as long as he doesn't reaggravate the elbow. He's been wearing a huge brace.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/aj_texans/TrainingCamp05025-1.jpg

slyfox68
08-02-2005, 12:09 AM
does anybody know who it was against?
#61 Tim Brown Rookie from West Virginia

F-minus67
08-02-2005, 12:19 AM
As long as the fight don't get to the level of when Micheal Westbrook K.O. Stephen Davis, I don't see any problems.

Double Barrel
08-02-2005, 12:35 AM
heh, a D lineman taking the O-liner down. I think TJ could consider it a win. :thumbup

I agree, a little fight here or there in training camp is a good thing (like Vinny said, it was always a staple at Oilers' camps...shows fire in the belly!).

As long as it's not your offensive and defensive coordinators smacking each other during a regular season game! :heh:

mexican_texan
08-02-2005, 01:37 AM
heh, a D lineman taking the O-liner down. I think TJ could consider it a win. :thumbup

I agree, a little fight here or there in training camp is a good thing (like Vinny said, it was always a staple at Oilers' camps...shows fire in the belly!).

As long as it's not your offensive and defensive coordinators smacking each other during a regular season game! :heh:

actually... :rolleyes:

mexican_texan
08-02-2005, 01:46 AM
he said that they're fat, hot, and hungry and they let their emotions get ahold of them, its like their fighting over the last piece of chicken. :homer:

BTW, if Morlon Greenwood is from Jamaica, why does he have a Cuban accent? :confused:

Corrosion
08-02-2005, 01:53 AM
And I exactly agree with that... if he has that fire, I also want to see in the future a firery guy on the OL that gets upset when Carr is touched.




Move T.J. to LT. ........ :pigfly:

stephen1
08-02-2005, 02:25 AM
a fights okay with me as long as it doesnt end up like what bill romanowski did

U4ikrob
08-02-2005, 06:54 AM
I dunno might be fun to watch Hoke get after Palmer a few times so he can "Feel the Rush" and maybe work a little harder on getting fire under the O-lines belly too :rolleyes:

I agree - nothing wrong with "Healthy" competition. It can certainly help light fires in many places.

Evidently Brown mistook TJ's chicken bone for his funny bone. I dont think he will make that mistake again - :lol

The scoope on TJ's Funny "Chicken" bone

Source: Chronicle - Today's article
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3291931

Fists of fury

Top draft pick Travis Johnson and free agent rookie Tim Brown were part of the Texans' first fight of training camp Monday. During a drill toward the end of the morning practice, Johnson and Brown started shoving each other and then fell to the ground and wrestled before teammates separated them.

"It's just getting hot out here, and you know how fat guys are," Johnson said laughing. "He was telling me something about how he was going to take my last piece of chicken."

Brown, a 313-pound guard, and Johnson, a 306-pound defensive end, will now learn about Dom Capers' fine system. The fight will likely cost them each $500.

Johnson, who signed a five-year deal that could be worth as much as $10.2 million, wasn't worried about the fine. He just wanted to make sure he sent a message.

"Us Florida State guys don't get pushed around by nobody," Johnson said. "That's the last thing that's going to happen."

JDizzle
08-02-2005, 09:05 AM
Wow ..... Walker did slim up some over the offseason.

ArlingtonTexan
08-02-2005, 09:28 AM
he said that they're fat, hot, and hungry and they let their emotions get ahold of them, its like their fighting over the last piece of chicken. :homer:

BTW, if Morlon Greenwood is from Jamaica, why does he have a Cuban accent? :confused:

Most americanos (myself included) are not sharp enough to detect that. Keep that quiet.

U4ikrob
08-02-2005, 09:51 AM
Just a hunch - but I think Greenwood's accent may stem from his 5+ years spent in Miami.

TexansCM
08-02-2005, 10:08 AM
The Johnson fight is #6 on ESPN's top plays. ESPN put a positive spin on it. :dangit:

Txnpride
08-02-2005, 11:08 AM
I say save the swinging blows for the Cowgirls when we scrimmage them.We need all the healthy bodies for the reg season.....We def. need some attitude on defense this season. "PLAY TIMES OVER"

FILO_girl
08-02-2005, 11:42 AM
I don't see what the big hubub is. Both are new and trying to make their presence known, like male dogs marking the highest on a tree.

A little fire in practice is a good thing. While the fines may deter some ($500 on most of their salaries is a drop in the bucket), most will pay and prove their point. I guess Brown will not tell TJ he will be stealing his last piece of chicken anymore. He looked like a turtle on his back out there. :ouch:

JamesLovesGames
08-02-2005, 04:01 PM
BRAVO!
Publicitity inducing spunk and aggressive *****holes are what we need on the line. Not pretty boys.

nunusguy
08-02-2005, 04:18 PM
Pretty minor dustup really, I've seen better ones in practices at college and even H.S. Surprising there is not more of this, considering a guy's bread and butter may be at stake. TJ may be set for a long, long time but the FA OL is either on the Texans' payroll this year, if only the PS, or he's back home working underground in a coal mine in WV.

Cjeremy635
08-02-2005, 05:01 PM
"Us Florida State guys don't get pushed around by nobody," Johnson said. "That's the last thing that's going to happen."[/QUOTE]

Well, it's about time someone here had that mentality. To be honest with you, I was a little pi$$ed when I saw he got into the fight on the news cause I thought it was in poor tast the he held out of camp then shows up and gets into a fight right off the bat. I take it back...all back. It's nice to see a bit of fire in someone and maybe it will spread through the whole D. I can't wait for the season to begin!!!!

Wolf
08-02-2005, 06:41 PM
I'll say this "fire" is something alot of us were saying this team lacked halfway through last season

JDizzle
08-04-2005, 08:50 AM
I saw on Ch. 13 last night that TJ got into it again with the same guy. Dom didn't look too happy.

Cjeremy635
08-04-2005, 08:58 AM
Yeah I saw that too. I just hope that T. Johnson known when to turn it on and turn it off. A good play screwed up by a 15 yrd. penalty is no longer considered a positive thing. But, this guy is obviously what the doctor ordered.

aj.
08-04-2005, 09:42 AM
Someone who plays with fire and intensity and can stay within himself is just what the doctor ordered. A guy who rips his own helmet off in a fit of rage during his second fight in two days with an undrafted free agent may be cause for concern. Obviously they have unfinished business from New Years Day and obviously he will get talked to by the head cheese.

Vambo, the Marble Eye
08-04-2005, 09:44 AM
They say "strategy" - is doing the right things and "tactics" is doing things right.

TJ's tactics of standing up for yourself in your first training camp is one thing if you are trying to win a job in the NFL... but fighting for the second time with rookie that isn't going to make the team is a pretty weak strategy.

TEXANS84
08-04-2005, 09:47 AM
Chronicle story:
Fight club
Defensive end Travis Johnson, the No. 1 pick, got into another fight in practice with offensive tackle Tim Brown, an undrafted free agent from West Virginia.

It was the second time they've fought, and coach Dom Capers fines players $500 per fight.

"That's $1,000 I don't have yet," Brown said. "He's the No. 1 pick, and he can afford it."

Johnson, who receives a $1 million bonus this week, took off his helmet and jammed it into Brown's shoulder.

"I love to see passion, but not when it comes to fighting," Capers said. "Travis can't do us any good if he's on the bench. If he can't avoid fights out here, what's he going to do when we start playing?"

Johnson didn't seem concerned about his second fight and the $1,000 fine.

"It was just intense," he said. "That's how I play. You fight, fight, fight — play without a seat belt. They jumped in and pulled him out. That's what he needed, I guess."

Paragon Blue
08-04-2005, 09:55 AM
Does anyone have footage of this fight. I would really like to see it.

BradK10
08-04-2005, 10:09 AM
did these guys have a history against each other in the ACC?

texasguy346
08-04-2005, 10:21 AM
Well West Virginia is in the Big East and FSU is in the ACC, but as Huge pointed out earlier they played a bowl game this past season. Perhaps the beef dates back to then.

Cjeremy635
08-04-2005, 12:06 PM
Personally, I'd like to see him pick on a veteran and see how he fares. Maybe it would do him some good to get the ***** knocked out of him and back to reality. :dangit:

nunusguy
08-04-2005, 12:31 PM
Well West Virginia is in the Big East and FSU is in the ACC, but as Huge pointed out earlier they played a bowl game this past season. Perhaps the beef dates back to then.
I dunno....maybe we're overlooking one thing here - we mighta got us some
real value here and I'm talking about the WV OL. Apparently TJ is not just
rolling over this other rookie in their competition or he wouldn't be getting so
upset and frustrated. This kid from WV is undrafted FA and is going
mano-mano against the 16th overall in the 2005 college draft and hanging
in there pretty damn well. Like Cass says, being competitive in matchups against top competition is one of the best ways to judge a players ability.

Vambo, the Marble Eye
08-04-2005, 02:52 PM
Personally, I'd like to see him pick on a veteran and see how he fares. Maybe it would do him some good to get the ***** knocked out of him and back to reality. :dangit:

Wand is a veteran... what do you think the oddsmakers would put his chances?

vtech9
08-04-2005, 06:01 PM
I dunno....maybe we're overlooking one thing here - we mighta got us some
real value here and I'm talking about the WV OL. Apparently TJ is not just
rolling over this other rookie in their competition or he wouldn't be getting so
upset and frustrated. This kid from WV is undrafted FA and is going
mano-mano against the 16th overall in the 2005 college draft and hanging
in there pretty damn well. Like Cass says, being competitive in matchups against top competition is one of the best ways to judge a players ability.
You know something, that thought has been in the back of my mind since word of the first fight. I've been waiting to see if anyone would say anything about Brown's play so far. If he is keeping TJ out and flustering him, he is doing something some of the veterans on the team have been unable to do. My curiosity is piqued.

If there is anyone that has been to the practices that has noticed the play of the not-so-well-known OL and DL guys like Brown, Garrick Jones, Brandon Evans, or any of the other Undrafted or late round guys, could you please let me and the others know how they are doing?

keyfro
08-04-2005, 06:44 PM
it's good to have a couple isolated fights in training camp but not ones that constantly repeat...travis johnson vs tim brown has gone twice...kinda getting old already...i think it's time for both of those guys to just get back to football and leave the fighting to other people...maybe it would be good to see g-funk vs riley...old auburn teammates...haha...see who wins that one