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06-23-2014, 10:59 AM
Early Texans 53-man roster projection (http://www.csnhouston.com/football-houston-texans/talk/early-texans-53-man-roster-projection)
QB (3): Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tom Savage, Case Keenum

RB (3): Arian Foster, Alfred Blue, Andre Brown

FB (1): Jay Prosch

WR (6): Andre Johnson, DeAndre Hopkins, DeVier Posey, Keshawn Martin, Mike Thomas, Alan Bonner

There’s a very real possibility the Texans only take...

TE (3): Garrett Graham, Ryan Griffin, C.J. Fiedorowicz

OL (9): Duane Brown, Xavier Su'a-Filo, Chris Myers, Brandon Brooks, Will Yeatman, Derek Newton, Ben Jones, Brennan Williams, Cody White

...There’s also a really good chance the Texans add a veteran tackle through free agency. In fact, I think they will.

P (1): Shane Lechler

K (1): Randy Bullock

LS (1): Jon Weeks

DL (6): J.J. Watt, Jared Crick, Louis Nix III, Ricardo Matthews, Tim Jamison, Jerrell Powe

The notable player left off this list is defensive end...

OLB (5): Jadeveon Clowney, Brooks Reed, Whitney Mercilus, Ricky Sapp, Justin Tuggle

ILB (4): Brian Cushing, Jeff Tarpinian, Max Bullough, Akeem Dent

CB (6): Johnathan Joseph, Kareem Jackson, Brandon Harris, Andre Hal, A.J. Bouye, Elbert Mack

Hal is the last one in. He was a draft pick but hasn’t stood out this spring. Still, he can make the team with a good showing at training camp. Bouye has a chance to be a pretty good player; he can play inside and outside. And Mack is a really solid special teams player who has been constantly praised by O’Brien.

S (4): D.J. Swearinger, Chris Clemons, Kendrick Lewis, Lonnie Ballentine

Shiloh Keo and Eddie Pleasant, two guys who played a bunch for the 2013 team, are out. In fact, three of the four safeties are...

DX-TEX
06-23-2014, 11:06 AM
Remove one WR and add in a blocking TE. This offense will funnel through its tight ends just like NE.

76Texan
06-23-2014, 12:03 PM
No one gets on the IR? :brando:

HOU-TEX
06-23-2014, 01:28 PM
I'm not sure why Brennan Williams is mentioned in the 53. The dude hasn't shown a lick since he arrived.

I hope he's able to get on the field, but I'm not including him anywhere near the 53 at this point.

The Pencil Neck
06-23-2014, 01:29 PM
I'm not sure why Brennan Williams is mentioned in the 53. The dude hasn't shown a lick since he arrived.

I hope he's able to get on the field, but I'm not including him anywhere near the 53 at this point.

I'm cutting Williams from the list and putting someone like Clabo in his spot.

Wolf6151
06-23-2014, 02:34 PM
I'm not sure why Brennan Williams is mentioned in the 53. The dude hasn't shown a lick since he arrived.

I hope he's able to get on the field, but I'm not including him anywhere near the 53 at this point.

Agree completely. I'm thinking the Texans make an injury settlement with Williams and move on.

TheIronDuke
06-23-2014, 02:51 PM
I'm cutting Williams from the list and putting someone like Clabo in his spot.

If they did and let Travardo walk as well, it'll make the 2013 draft class right up there with our worst in history. We'd have pissed away 2 3rd rounders in Williams and Montgomery, a 4th for Travardo, 6th on Quess (not Ricks fault though) and a 6th on Chris Jones who we let go.

The Pencil Neck
06-23-2014, 03:02 PM
If they did and let Travardo walk as well, it'll make the 2013 draft class right up there with our worst in history. We'd have pissed away 2 3rd rounders in Williams and Montgomery, a 4th for Travardo, 6th on Quess (not Ricks fault though) and a 6th on Chris Jones who we let go.

It is what it is. Better to cut your losses and move on than to hold onto them and try to make them work when they were obviously fails.

The focus should be on fielding the best team not making our draft choices look better than they were.

Playoffs
06-23-2014, 03:48 PM
If they did and let Travardo walk as well, it'll make the 2013 draft class right up there with our worst in history. We'd have pissed away 2 3rd rounders in Williams and Montgomery, a 4th for Travardo, 6th on Quess (not Ricks fault though) and a 6th on Chris Jones who we let go.

Was a strange Texans draft... like an alter-ego was making some of those selections.

IDEXAN
06-23-2014, 04:07 PM
If they did and let Travardo walk as well, it'll make the 2013 draft class right up there with our worst in history. We'd have pissed away 2 3rd rounders in Williams and Montgomery, a 4th for Travardo, 6th on Quess (not Ricks fault though) and a 6th on Chris Jones who we let go.
The strangest thing about that Draft was that the 6th rounders were clearly better than the pair of third rounders ? How does that happen ?
But busting on both the 3rd rounders (B. Williams was injured and effectively IRed his last year in college so therefor a big red-flag coming into the Draft, and the choice of Montgomery was an all-time
whiff by the Texans), is to my way of thinking almost unforgivable, so those guys surely weren't both Rick Smith picks ?

The Pencil Neck
06-23-2014, 04:52 PM
The strangest thing about that Draft was that the 6th rounders were clearly better than the pair of third rounders ? How does that happen ?
But busting on both the 3rd rounders (B. Williams was injured and effectively IRed his last year in college so therefor a big red-flag coming into the Draft, and the choice of Montgomery was an all-time
whiff by the Texans), is to my way of thinking almost unforgivable, so those guys surely weren't both Rick Smith picks ?

If they were good picks, they were Wade Phillips' picks, or Kubiak's; if they weren't, they were Rick Smith's? Or is it the other way around? It's so confusing sometimes.

The bottom line is that whatever process was in place for that draft was a massive failure but I don't think it's a thing where any one person gets all the blame. There was enough failure in that draft to go around.

Hopefully, this one makes up for it.

dalemurphy
06-23-2014, 04:58 PM
Early Texans 53-man roster projection (http://www.csnhouston.com/football-houston-texans/talk/early-texans-53-man-roster-projection)

QB: Fitz, Savage, Keenum
RB: Foster, Brown, Blue
FB: Prosch
TE: Fiedorowicz, Graham, Griffin, Potter
WR: AJ, Hopkins, Posey, Bonner, KMarttin
OT: Brown, Newton, Yietman, Dima (probably replaced with a FA)
C/G: Myers, Brooks, Sua Filo, Ben Jones, White

P: Lechler
K: Bullock
LS: Weeks

DL: Watt, Crick, Powe, Matthews, Nix, Jamison, Pagan
OLB: Clowney, B.Reed, T.Williams, Mercilus,
ILB: Cushing, Dent, Sapp, Tuggle
CB: KJ, JJ, B.Harris, A.Hall, Buoye
S: Swearinger, Clemons, K.Lewis, Ballentine, Pleasant/or Mack

PUP: Brennan Williams

P.Squad: Labhart wr, Lemon wr, M.Williams cb, Bullough Ilb, C.Young Ilb, D.Johnson rb, Ferentz c, Warmsley dl

EllisUnit
06-23-2014, 07:19 PM
It is what it is. Better to cut your losses and move on than to hold onto them and try to make them work when they were obviously fails.

The focus should be on fielding the best team not making our draft choices look better than they were.

True Dat, and i think that was part of Kubiaks problem.

dalemurphy
06-23-2014, 08:02 PM
QB: Fitz, Savage, Keenum
RB: Foster, Brown, Blue
FB: Prosch
TE: Fiedorowicz, Graham, Griffin, Potter
WR: AJ, Hopkins, Posey, Bonner, KMarttin
OT: Brown, Newton, Yietman, Dima (probably replaced with a FA)
C/G: Myers, Brooks, Sua Filo, Ben Jones, White

P: Lechler
K: Bullock
LS: Weeks

DL: Watt, Crick, Powe, Matthews, Nix, Jamison, Pagan
OLB: Clowney, B.Reed, T.Williams, Mercilus,
ILB: Cushing, Dent, Sapp, Tuggle
CB: KJ, JJ, B.Harris, A.Hall, Buoye
S: Swearinger, Clemons, K.Lewis, Ballentine, Pleasant/or Mack

PUP: Brennan Williams

P.Squad: Labhart wr, Lemon wr, M.Williams cb, Bullough Ilb, C.Young Ilb, D.Johnson rb, Ferentz c, Warmsley dl


A few things I think are likely to be different regarding the roster makeup under this staff:

1. Playing more zone and focusing on special teams means we are likely to see 5 cbs and 5 safeties instead of the 6 -4 ratio we are accustomed to. Also, I think we will have mor tweeters... Guys around 205 lbs with physicality and ball skills - Marcus Coleman types... So, I think guys like buoyed and Pleasant have a good opportunity to make the team. Meanwhile, one dimensional guys like Keo are history.

2. The breakdown of DL, Ilb, Olb may look strange also, because many of the guys will be expected to play varied positions in a wide range of packages. For instance, Watt and Jamison will be used as traditional 3-4 DEs sometimes. But, I expect both of them to stand up at OlB on occasion or setup outside the tackle in 3 pt stances sometimes.

3. Though I only had 5 wrs on my list, I would not be shocked if we kept 6, perhaps even 7 in future years.

4. I expect the practice squad to be more actively used as a means of depth in season. I never saw an intentional effort to stash needed young depth on it under Kubiak.... I realize the limitations of the P.S. Rules and risk associated with players on it. However, during the season, seldom are teams willing to claim players off another teams squad for a number of reasons.

Seegara
06-24-2014, 06:20 PM
I'm ok with most of it, but like Chris Boswell as kicker. Please, God, anybody but Bullock!

My impression is that BoB will turn out to be a really nice guy once you get to know him. But he will give Bullock his walking papers. There's a difference between a nice guy and a fool.

Texian
06-24-2014, 07:31 PM
I think Tuggle is in and may be Trevardo.

Troy Chapman
06-25-2014, 08:39 AM
I'm ok with most of it, but like Chris Boswell as kicker. Please, God, anybody but Bullock!

My impression is that BoB will turn out to be a really nice guy once you get to know him. But he will give Bullock his walking papers. There's a difference between a nice guy and a fool.

Boswell better get it going in training camp. Reports from OTA's has Bullock easily ahead of Boswell.

CloakNNNdagger
06-25-2014, 08:53 AM
I'm ok with most of it, but like Chris Boswell as kicker. Please, God, anybody but Bullock!

My impression is that BoB will turn out to be a really nice guy once you get to know him. But he will give Bullock his walking papers. There's a difference between a nice guy and a fool.

Let me see, difficult choice...........


http://thumb10.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/485464/110722997/stock-vector-fly-and-feces-110722997.jpg


VS


http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080426202108/uncyclopedia/images/0/0e/Vomit-366.jpg

michaelm
06-25-2014, 09:02 AM
Personally I thought Bullock looked better and more comfortable as the season progressed. I think he will continue to improve and predict he will be a solid kicker with great range for years.

And this statement is coming from a 'Horns fan, so that's not Aggie homerism speaking.

TheIronDuke
06-25-2014, 09:41 AM
Personally I thought Bullock looked better and more comfortable as the season progressed. I think he will continue to improve and predict he will be a solid kicker with great range for years.

And this statement is coming from a 'Horns fan, so that's not Aggie homerism speaking.

But unfortunately he was looking better only as his kicks didn't matter anymore. When they counted, he couldn't make anything.

steelbtexan
06-25-2014, 07:16 PM
But unfortunately he was looking better only as his kicks didn't matter anymore. When they counted, he couldn't make anything.

So we're holding Bullock to the Keenum standard?

Not able to come thru in the clutch?

steelbtexan
06-25-2014, 07:18 PM
Let me see, difficult choice...........


http://thumb10.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/485464/110722997/stock-vector-fly-and-feces-110722997.jpg


VS


http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080426202108/uncyclopedia/images/0/0e/Vomit-366.jpg

They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Or a few missed FG's in the clutch.

DBCooper
06-27-2014, 09:10 AM
Let me see, difficult choice...........


http://thumb10.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/485464/110722997/stock-vector-fly-and-feces-110722997.jpg


VS


http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080426202108/uncyclopedia/images/0/0e/Vomit-366.jpg

Uhhhh Doc,

Some of us don't have the same constitution as you for that sort of thing, especially when I'm eating breakfast.

Playoffs
06-29-2014, 10:01 AM
Trying to not look up as I post this...


Quarterbacks Ryan Fitzpatrick, Case Keenum, Tom Savage

Running backs/fullbacks Arian Foster, Alfred Blue, Andre Brown, Jay Prosch

Receivers Andre Johnson, DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Thomas, Alan Bonner, DeVier Posey/Keshawn Martin

Tight ends Garrett Graham, Ryan Griffin, C.J. Fiedorowicz, Zach Potter

Offensive linemen Duane Brown, Brandon Brooks, Ben Jones, Chris Myers, Xavier Su'a-Filo, Derek Newton, Will Yeatman, Brennan Williams, Cody White

Defensive linemen J.J. Watt, Jared Crick, Louis Nix III, Jerrell Powe, Jeoffrey Pagan/Tim Jamison

Linebackers Brian Cushing, Justin Tuggle, Max Bullough, Akeem Dent, Brooks Reed, Whitney Mercilus, Jadeveon Clowney, Ricky Sapp, Jeff Tarpinian

Cornerbacks Johnathan Joseph, Kareem Jackson, A.J. Bouye, Elbert Mack, Brandon Harris, Andre Hal

Safeties D.J. Swearinger, Kendrick Lewis, Chris Clemons, Lonnie Ballentine, Eddie Pleasant

Specialists punter Shane Lechler, long snapper Jon Weeks, kicker undecided:
http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-texans/post/_/id/6199/guess-the-53-take-1

Playoffs
07-18-2014, 01:31 PM
Tania's commentary snipped, read it here:
http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-texans/post/_/id/6372/houston-texans-projected-roster

QUARTERBACKS (3)
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Tom Savage
Case Keenum
...

RUNNING BACKS/FULLBACKS (4)
Arian Foster
Alfred Blue
Andre Brown
Jay Prosch
...

RECEIVERS (5)
Andre Johnson
DeAndre Hopkins
Mike Thomas
Alan Bonner
DeVier Posey
...

TIGHT ENDS (4)
Garrett Graham
Ryan Griffin
C.J. Fiedorowicz
Zach Potter
...

OFFENSIVE LINE (9)
Duane Brown
Brandon Brooks
Ben Jones
Chris Myers
Xavier Su'a-Filo
Derek Newton
Will Yeatman
Brennan Williams
Cody White
...

DEFENSIVE LINE (5)
J.J. Watt
Jared Crick
Louis Nix III
Jerrell Powe
Jeoffrey Pagan
...

LINEBACKERS (9)
Brian Cushing
Justin Tuggle
Max Bullough
Akeem Dent
Brooks Reed
Whitney Mercilus
Jadeveon Clowney
Ricky Sapp
Jeff Tarpinian
...

CORNERBACKS (6)
Johnathan Joseph
Kareem Jackson
A.J. Bouye
Elbert Mack
Brandon Harris
Andre Hal
...

SAFETIES (5)
D.J. Swearinger
Kendrick Lewis
Chris Clemons
Lonnie Ballentine
Eddie Pleasant
...

SPECIALISTS (3)
Shane Lechler
Jon Weeks
Randy Bullock

76Texan
07-18-2014, 02:26 PM
I would be surprised if Keo doesn't make the team.

He only played fewer snaps.than JJo and Kareem last year.

Troy Chapman
07-18-2014, 02:55 PM
Interesting:
1. No Martin in the WR group.
2. 4 tight ends to help with blocking.
3. 5 safeties.

The Safety and WR group I guess will come down to special teams work.

Playoffs
07-20-2014, 11:30 AM
Brian T Smith @chronbriansmith
A look at the #Texans by position as camp opens http://t.co/dvKbS5c417 #NFL

Link should work for all.

steelbtexan
07-20-2014, 11:55 AM
I think Ankrah make the team and possibly CB Williams.

DJ Johnson could make the team as a 3rd down guy.

An OT could be added at 53 man cut from another team.

Great list.

Marshall
07-20-2014, 02:45 PM
I'm ok with most of it, but like Chris Boswell as kicker. Please, God, anybody but Bullock!

My impression is that BoB will turn out to be a really nice guy once you get to know him. But he will give Bullock his walking papers. There's a difference between a nice guy and a fool.

Bullock has already made the turn. Why wait on the new guy to learn the same lesson?