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speedfreek
06-17-2014, 06:02 PM
That is all..

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/479018340434726913

kingtexan
06-17-2014, 06:04 PM
Everyone knew it was coming.

michaelm
06-17-2014, 06:06 PM
Confirmed by http://vbs.cm/802G5X

76Texan
06-17-2014, 06:07 PM
Just confirmed by Bob Allen on Channel 11

Vance87
06-17-2014, 06:10 PM
Thank you TJ for leading the most famous drive in Texans' history, and backing it up with a playoff win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6sA-pWv9sc

He won't be jobless for long, I'm sure...

kiwitexansfan
06-17-2014, 06:10 PM
Interesting.

Yates would seem to have suited the 'OB QB type' more than Keenum.

Vance87
06-17-2014, 06:12 PM
Also...

The Keenum dream lives on!! :fans:



:kitten:

EllisUnit
06-17-2014, 06:13 PM
Interesting.

Yates would seem to have suited the 'OB QB type' more than Keenum.

Mcnair doe own this team, Keenum helps sell tickets, you can believe he believes that !

speedfreek
06-17-2014, 06:22 PM
Apparently Gary is backing up Flacco in addition to
being OC..

"Baltimore could be a potential landing spot for Yates. Former Texans head coach Gary Kubiak, who drafted Yates, is now the Ravens offensive quarterback."


Confirmed by http://vbs.cm/802G5X

Sigma
06-17-2014, 06:30 PM
I just heard of this on 610, thought I'd find the forum going crazy....

It seems all is quiet :)

Speedy
06-17-2014, 06:32 PM
Mcnair doe own this team, Keenum helps sell tickets, you can believe he believes that !

Considering they've sold out every home game they've ever played, I'm not so sure that any one player is helping sell more tickets. And if there was, guys like Watt or AJ would be the ones bringing people to the games more than Case would be.

EllisUnit
06-17-2014, 06:35 PM
Considering they've sold out every home game they've ever played, I'm not so sure that any one player is helping sell more tickets. And if there was, guys like Watt or AJ would be the ones bringing people to the games more than Case would be.

It was just a theory, but like it or not Case is one of the most popular backups in houston. I'm sure his jersey has had pretty good sales as well.

eriadoc
06-17-2014, 06:41 PM
It's that weak willed head coach we got, caving in to the demands of the millions of UH alumni.

TexansSeminole
06-17-2014, 06:42 PM
It was just a theory, but like it or not Case is one of the most popular backups in houston. I'm sure his jersey has had pretty good sales as well.

NFL teams share profits from the sale of jerseys.

EllisUnit
06-17-2014, 06:48 PM
Come on guys i was just throwing out some possible justification, who really knows. Unless Case really did just out perform TJ

CloakNNNdagger
06-17-2014, 06:55 PM
...Read bottom to top.

John McClain @McClain_on_NFL

Keenum learned a lot during his 8 starts. He'll be better cause of those experiences and cause offensive players are healthy again.


1m
John McClain @McClain_on_NFL

As a starter in '13, Keenum had 7 TDs and 0 INTs in first 3 starts. Then injuries deciated offense, and he struggled as defenses adjusted.


2m
John McClain @McClain_on_NFL

I expect Keenum to be even better in camp and preseason this year. He's a gamer. He'll impress the coaches when he gets a chance.


4m
John McClain @McClain_on_NFL

I'm happy for Case Keenum. Nobody works harder or is more respected. He tore it up in camp and preseason last year.

Playoffs
06-17-2014, 07:01 PM
OB went with the "team" guy, and did right by Yates by releasing him as soon as he knew he wanted to to allow TJ to get on with another club. Integrity. (Not to be misconstrued as a negative on Yates, just that imo Case's intangibles aligned more with the vision OB has for this team/organization.)



T.J. Yates ‏@TJ_Yates
Can't thank the Texans organization and the city of Houston enough! We've had some great memories and I will always call Houston home.

drs23
06-17-2014, 07:02 PM
It's that weak willed head coach we got, caving in to the demands of the millions of UH alumni.

Where's the kitty? :bat:

DBCooper
06-17-2014, 07:22 PM
Now we can wait to celebrate the release of Keenum then FitzMagic.........

IDEXAN
06-17-2014, 07:39 PM
OB went with the "team" guy, and did right by Yates by releasing him as soon as he knew he wanted to to allow TJ to get on with another club. Integrity. (Not to be misconstrued as a negative on Yates, just that imo Case's intangibles aligned more with the vision OB has for this team/organization.)[/COLOR]

Could you elaborate Playoffs ? You suggesting that Yates was not a "team guy", and how does Keenum have superior intangibles to Yates ? Not being argumentative here, just curious on your thinking process ?

Mr teX
06-17-2014, 07:44 PM
Come on guys i was just throwing out some possible justification, who really knows. Unless Case really did just out perform TJ

In the press conference just before this announcement, BoB said that he needed more consistency from all 3 guys vying for the #2 spot...meaning all 3 were basically even in the competition up to that point....yep, the ultimate fan Bob McNair put that call in...

281
06-17-2014, 07:51 PM
http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/06/17/report-texans-received-a-draft-day-trade-offer-for-t-j-yates/

Well... damn. We could have gotten something for him.

speedfreek
06-17-2014, 07:53 PM
why would anyone be surprised that BoB made a statement
that all 3 were in the game then immediately cut Yates?

He stated that the entire previous staff would be evaluated
on a Saturday and then gave _everyone_ but one of the
coaches their walking papers on Monday.

Just par for the course..

AngryNateFTW
06-17-2014, 08:05 PM
In the press conference just before this announcement, BoB said that he needed more consistency from all 3 guys vying for the #2 spot...meaning all 3 were basically even in the competition up to that point....yep, the ultimate fan Bob McNair put that call in...

Was his presser before practice today or after? Normally it's after, right?

eriadoc
06-17-2014, 08:33 PM
He stated that the entire previous staff would be evaluated on a Saturday and then gave _everyone_ but one of the coaches their walking papers on Monday.

Just par for the course..

McNair put in the call for that one coach too, I'm sure. :rolleyes:

xtruroyaltyx
06-17-2014, 08:55 PM
I expected Yates to be cut.

His ceiling isn't as high as Keenum's and he doesn't bring energy to the game like Keenum.

That said, Keenum isn't a lock to make this roster either.

Playoffs
06-17-2014, 09:46 PM
Could you elaborate Playoffs ? You suggesting that Yates was not a "team guy", and how does Keenum have superior intangibles to Yates ? Not being argumentative here, just curious on your thinking process ?

My bad, was in the middle of editing/adding when I had to take and then make some phone calls so it was left hanging there... it's edited to complete my thought.

Dr CND & I were talking about this the other day... that reports were it was very close between TJ & Case... and I suggested that OB may end up choosing the guy who most fits what he's looking for as far as mental makeup. I think Case walked in the door that way. That's all.

If someone like Matt McGloin hits the streets we may see Case go. I'm not sure yet we're finished at QB, having first spot for waivers. We'll see.

The best news effect of Yate's release is O'Brien wants Savage to get his reps... now. Which is a good sign. Not that he'll start, but that he's not slipping back which isn't uncommon with rookies -- especially late rounders.

kiwitexansfan
06-17-2014, 09:48 PM
I expected Yates to be cut.

His ceiling isn't as high as Keenum's and he doesn't bring energy to the game like Keenum.

That said, Keenum isn't a lock to make this roster either.

I only expect us to have 2 QBs on the final 53.

drs23
06-17-2014, 10:35 PM
I only expect us to have 2 QBs on the final 53.

That is vewy, vewy scawry.

Signed,

E. Fudd

Carr Bombed
06-18-2014, 12:01 AM
McNair didn't have crap to do with the decision to keep Keenum and release Yates, the man who made that decision was Bill O'Brien and it was strictly tied to football reasons and not to "sell jerseys and tickets". The paranoia and conspiracy theories that this fanbase develops gets ridiculous sometimes.

SAMURAITEXAN
06-18-2014, 12:07 AM
Thank you TJ and good luck to you where ever you ended up playing for.

bayoudreamn
06-18-2014, 01:38 AM
why would anyone be surprised that BoB made a statement
that all 3 were in the game then immediately cut Yates?

He stated that the entire previous staff would be evaluated
on a Saturday and then gave _everyone_ but one of the
coaches their walking papers on Monday.

Just par for the course..

LOL, John Harris did say not to believe everything Bill says :)

drs23
06-18-2014, 01:39 AM
McNair didn't have crap to do with the decision to keep Keenum and release Yates, the man who made that decision was Bill O'Brien and it was strictly tied to football reasons and not to "sell jerseys and tickets". The paranoia and conspiracy theories than this fanbase develops gets ridiculous sometimes.

You mean like the doldrums of this time of the season? :lol:

bayoudreamn
06-18-2014, 01:45 AM
Last year at this time the super bowl talk started. By the second game of preseasson we already had ticket sales. Now we're 4-12 and drafting number 1 next year. We'll be losing to Ghana before the season starts.

Sounds like pretty good odds to me!!

The sky is not falling.....it's always that putrid yellow color in Houston!:clown:

Norg
06-18-2014, 02:47 AM
I will never forget the insane 4th qtr drive he had @ cincy to secure our first PS ticket

beat ATL at home something I don't even think schaub could of done would of prob choked it

and beating cicny again get our first PLayoff win



anyway I hope Keenum is next only need 2 qb IMO we could really use that 3rd spot for something else like a OLB ILB or CB

hell even a Tackle at this point

maddogmrb
06-18-2014, 05:46 AM
Thank you TJ and good luck to you where ever you ended up playing for.

Yes ^^^

sandman
06-18-2014, 07:21 AM
The worst part about TJ being cut? It breathes new life into the Keenum sycophants...

Scooter
06-18-2014, 07:38 AM
The worst part about TJ being cut? It breathes new life into the Keenum sycophants...

and rallies the hate.

Marshall
06-18-2014, 07:49 AM
Everyone knew it was coming.

Except me. I still thought they'd keep 4 until the first cut down date.

Marshall
06-18-2014, 07:53 AM
Now we can wait to celebrate the release of Keenum then FitzMagic.........

Why be so divisive? Some would celebrate out of ignorance and some would not out of knowledge.

Marshall
06-18-2014, 07:56 AM
In the press conference just before this announcement, BoB said that he needed more consistency from all 3 guys vying for the #2 spot...meaning all 3 were basically even in the competition up to that point....yep, the ultimate fan Bob McNair put that call in...

Just curious, is that statement from sources or mere speculation on your part?

You seem to be ignoring the real possibility that Keenum simply performed better than Yates with your attempts to belittle Keemun. So if you have actual sources, then I'd look on your post differently.

DBCooper
06-18-2014, 07:57 AM
Why be so divisive? Some would celebrate out of ignorance and some would not out of knowledge.

What? The knowledge that all our QB's suck?

Scooter
06-18-2014, 07:59 AM
yates i honestly dont expect to be here. not because i think he's bad, but i think his ceiling is a backup. yates to me is a young sage rosenfels, and i say that as a compliment.

i posted this a month or more ago. like every "potential" player, there are perceived ceilings and floors. yates doesnt have much of a ceiling. his top end is ryan fitzpatrick, and we already have that. keenum has a much higher ceiling, though it comes with a rock bottom floor. it makes more sense to explore that potential than it does to verify a long term backup.

Marshall
06-18-2014, 08:06 AM
I will never forget the insane 4th qtr drive he had @ cincy to secure our first PS ticket

beat ATL at home something I don't even think schaub could of done would of prob choked it

and beating cicny again get our first PLayoff win



anyway I hope Keenum is next only need 2 qb IMO we could really use that 3rd spot for something else like a OLB ILB or CB

hell even a Tackle at this point

We'll have at least one QB on the ps if we go with 2 on the roster. But that doesn't really prepare you to play well.

Playoffs
06-18-2014, 08:15 AM
Thank you TJ and good luck to you where ever you ended up playing for.

I will never forget the insane 4th qtr drive he had @ cincy to secure our first PS ticket

beat ATL at home something I don't even think schaub could of done would of prob choked it

and beating cicny again get our first PLayoff win
Yep, thanks for some great memories T.J.!!! :fans:

T.J. Yates was selected with the 152nd pick (fifth round) of the 2011 NFL Draft by the Houston Texans.

He first saw action in a November 27, 2011 game against the Jacksonville Jaguars when quarterback Matt Leinart left the game with a collarbone injury. Yates made his first ever professional career start in the next game against the Atlanta Falcons and also became the first ever former University of North Carolina quarterback to start an NFL game.

Yates started his second game on December 11 against the Cincinnati Bengals. Yates completed 26-of-44 passes for 300 yards. He threw two touchdowns and one interception and led the Texans to their tenth win, clinching a playoff spot for the first time in franchise history. For his performance in the Bengals game he was named the Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Week.

On January 7, 2012, Yates led the Texans to their first ever playoff win with the score of 31-10 over the Cincinnati Bengals (the same team Yates and the Texans beat to clinch their first ever playoff berth), becoming the fifth rookie quarterback to win a playoff game.

Mr teX
06-18-2014, 10:45 AM
Just curious, is that statement from sources or mere speculation on your part?

You seem to be ignoring the real possibility that Keenum simply performed better than Yates with your attempts to belittle Keemun. So if you have actual sources, then I'd look on your post differently.

Lol, here's BoB talking a little about the qb competition after the 1st practice of minicamp right before Yates was cut.

http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/Bill-OBrien-Fitzpatrick-is-our-starter/3a8bce0c-b8bd-4918-ab4e-931bd2035967#/tv-media/videos/OBrien_on_first_day_of_minicamp/ab5f9555-b9ec-4338-8ebd-17729a84af2f

BoB had been saying the same thing about all the guys up to that point, yet he went on ahead and named Fitz the starter before most coaches in his situation do which clearly shows how he felt about Fitz. He also makes clear distinctions about Savage's progression most times by saying things like he's "a little behind" or just mentioning him separately from the other 2; which tells me he's likely not seriously considering Savage to be his #2 at this point. That left Case and TJ in which he doesn't say anything 1 way or the other about either guy...which implies that they're pretty much even. We also have their history. Neither guy could really separate themselves from each other last year in the preseason....

That leaves only a few variables left. Case's supposed higher "upside" and/or him outperforming TJ in OTA's......the above stuff doesn't seem to suggest either 1 of those being a real factor. The only thing you're really left with his McNair. It wouldn't be the 1st time McNair got involved with the qb situation.

Only Keenum fan boys take it as a slight to Keenum...instead of honestly evaluating Keenum's situation here.

76Texan
06-18-2014, 10:53 AM
Mr Tex, sorry, but you still don't make any sense to me.
McNair wouldn't even have to put in the call at any time, let alone the last minute.
It would have been a condition of employment for O'Brien.

Mr teX
06-18-2014, 11:17 AM
Mr Tex, sorry, but you still don't make any sense to me.
McNair wouldn't even have to put in the call at any time, let alone the last minute.
It would have been a condition of employment for O'Brien.

You're taking it literally...That's not how i meant it at all....whether it was last minute or a condition of employment for O'brien, It's the same thing to me. Case has support here that Yates didn't...which very well could've been the deciding factor all things being even as it appears that they were.

Could've been something as simple as McNair saying to B'ob "give him a legitimate shot to make the roster b/c i don't believe he really got that last year.." & from Bo'B's perspective it could've just been a matter of seeing if he could be at least as good as Yatesfor the back up role so that they could afford to let go of TJ...who knows

In any event, TJ is gone, Lets focus on the 3 still here.

76Texan
06-18-2014, 11:26 AM
You're taking it literally...That's not how i meant it at all....whether it was last minute or a condition of employment for O'brien, It's the same thing to me. Case has support here that Yates didn't...which very well could've been the deciding factor all things being even as it appears that they were.

Could've been something as simple as McNair saying to B'ob "give him a legitimate shot to make the roster b/c i don't believe he really got that last year.." & from Bo'B's perspective it could've just been a matter of seeing if he could be at least as good as Yates so that they could maybe afford to let go of TJ...who knows

In any event, TJ is gone, Lets focus on the 3 still here.

I dunno, man.
Keenum did get cut in against the wish of his fan club.
McNair didn't put in a call for him then, did he?

sandman
06-18-2014, 11:37 AM
and rallies the hate.

Towards his fan boys on this site? Yes

Towards CK himself? Nah

Mr teX
06-18-2014, 11:39 AM
I dunno, man.
Keenum did get cut in against the wish of his fan club.
McNair didn't put in a call for him then, did he?

What's the popular saying "the most popular player on the team is always the back up qb.." Multiply that by 2 when said qb is from home city/state.

What we do know is McNair put the call in for him during the season at some point....As I've stated before, In all my years of watching this game on this level, 've never seen a coach skip over his perfectly healthy 2nd string qb to go to his 3rd unless he was forced to do so. Especially if his 2nd stringer has won games for him in the past, & is healthy.

McNair probably tried to let Kubiak make that decision on his own, but Gary couldn't...that combined with the team dropping 14 straight games combined with the fact Gary kept inserting Schaub in over Keenum ultimately got that dude fired.

Vinnie
06-18-2014, 12:12 PM
Towards his fan boys on this site? Yes

Towards CK himself? Nah

Sorry, I just don't see the "fan boy" thing. Yes, he does have his fans, but "fan boy" suggests a VYesque cult following and that just simply doesn't exist. People root for him and want to see him succeed, but I don't hear anyone suggesting they will disown the team or give up their season tickets now that he wasn't proclaimed the starting QB.

Norg
06-18-2014, 01:28 PM
ravens wanted to trade for yates on draft day we could of got a pick ..?????


Rick is deff messin up

Troy Chapman
06-18-2014, 02:05 PM
ravens wanted to trade for yates on draft day we could of got a pick ..?????


Rick is deff messin up

I've heard this too but never seen confirmation that it actually occurred.

chenjy9
06-18-2014, 02:34 PM
ravens wanted to trade for yates on draft day we could of got a pick ..?????

Rick is deff messin up

Have you ever considered the possibility that OB declined to have Yates traded until he could see what we had in him?

Brandon420tx
06-18-2014, 02:43 PM
ravens wanted to trade for yates on draft day we could of got a pick ..?????


Rick is deff messin up

And you know this from? Yeah speculation and conjecture

Marshall
06-18-2014, 02:51 PM
Lol, here's BoB talking a little about the qb competition after the 1st practice of minicamp right before Yates was cut.

http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/Bill-OBrien-Fitzpatrick-is-our-starter/3a8bce0c-b8bd-4918-ab4e-931bd2035967#/tv-media/videos/OBrien_on_first_day_of_minicamp/ab5f9555-b9ec-4338-8ebd-17729a84af2f

BoB had been saying the same thing about all the guys up to that point, yet he went on ahead and named Fitz the starter before most coaches in his situation do which clearly shows how he felt about Fitz. He also makes clear distinctions about Savage's progression most times by saying things like he's "a little behind" or just mentioning him separately from the other 2; which tells me he's likely not seriously considering Savage to be his #2 at this point. That left Case and TJ in which he doesn't say anything 1 way or the other about either guy...which implies that they're pretty much even. We also have their history. Neither guy could really separate themselves from each other last year in the preseason....

That leaves only a few variables left. Case's supposed higher "upside" and/or him outperforming TJ in OTA's......the above stuff doesn't seem to suggest either 1 of those being a real factor. The only thing you're really left with his McNair. It wouldn't be the 1st time McNair got involved with the qb situation.

Only Keenum fan boys take it as a slight to Keenum...instead of honestly evaluating Keenum's situation here.

So it's speculation on your part. Thanks for the info.

ps There's nothing wrong with speculation and conjecture as long as you remember they aren't facts.

htownfan32
06-18-2014, 02:53 PM
Sorry, I just don't see the "fan boy" thing. Yes, he does have his fans, but "fan boy" suggests a VYesque cult following and that just simply doesn't exist. People root for him and want to see him succeed, but I don't hear anyone suggesting they will disown the team or give up their season tickets now that he wasn't proclaimed the starting QB.

Difference was/is that VY and Manziel were considered to be first round picks and in contention for top 10 selection whereas Keenum was not, and in both cases the Texans were under fan pressure (regardless of whether the Texans felt it or not, the fanbase WAS pressuring the organization) because they had the #1 pick. Scenarios were vastly different between the UT/A&M superstars and the UH hometown hero.

76Texan
06-18-2014, 03:19 PM
Difference was/is that VY and Manziel were considered to be first round picks and in contention for top 10 selection whereas Keenum was not, and in both cases the Texans were under fan pressure (regardless of whether the Texans felt it or not, the fanbase WAS pressuring the organization) because they had the #1 pick. Scenarios were vastly different between the UT/A&M superstars and the UH hometown hero.

McNair didn't succumb to those pressures, so why now?

Certainly the cries for VY was hell a whole lot louder, and the clamoring for Manziel was also significant.

Playoffs
06-18-2014, 03:40 PM
ravens wanted to trade for yates on draft day we could of got a pick ..????? Rick is deff messin upWasn't Rick's call.

Have you ever considered the possibility that OB declined to have Yates traded until he could see what we had in him?
Bingo.

Mr teX
06-18-2014, 03:41 PM
So it's speculation on your part. Thanks for the info.

ps There's nothing wrong with speculation and conjecture as long as you remember they aren't facts.

Never proclaimed them to be anything more than what they are buddy....

76Texan
06-18-2014, 03:45 PM
What's the popular saying "the most popular player on the team is always the back up qb.." Multiply that by 2 when said qb is from home city/state.

What we do know is McNair put the call in for him during the season at some point....As I've stated before, In all my years of watching this game on this level, 've never seen a coach skip over his perfectly healthy 2nd string qb to go to his 3rd unless he was forced to do so. Especially if his 2nd stringer has won games for him in the past, & is healthy.

McNair probably tried to let Kubiak make that decision on his own, but Gary couldn't...that combined with the team dropping 14 straight games combined with the fact Gary kept inserting Schaub in over Keenum ultimately got that dude fired.
We agree that it's all under the bridge now.
But Yates did have his chance when he replaced Schaub in the Rams game.
Yates, himself, admitted that he screwed up his chance.
When Keenum got hurt during the second Colts game, the Texans decided to go back to Schaub for the last two games.
Personally, I wanted to see Yates.
For me, even thought at that moment, Keenum already surpassed Yates, neither had convinced me totally.
McNair could have asked O'Brien not to draft a QB (unless there's one early), but the fact that O'Brien took Savage in the fourth, to me, indicates that Yates wasn't in OB's plan either.
But he wanted to have a chance to observe first hand how Yates operates.
If McNair wants it, the Texans would have cut Yates right after the draft.

Obviously, each of us has the free will to think which QB is a better prospect, and I respect the opinrosterf others.

I just think that there are very little evidence that McNair has been protective of Keenum.
If he was, I don't see the Texans even draft Savage.
I won't rule everything out completely though.

Keenum isn't certain to make the roster, but I think he has a chance.

Personally, I wouldn't have signed Fitz.
I would take that $4M and get the team a legit RT so Newton can be the swing man.

Vinnie
06-18-2014, 04:52 PM
Difference was/is that VY and Manziel were considered to be first round picks and in contention for top 10 selection whereas Keenum was not, and in both cases the Texans were under fan pressure (regardless of whether the Texans felt it or not, the fanbase WAS pressuring the organization) because they had the #1 pick. Scenarios were vastly different between the UT/A&M superstars and the UH hometown hero.

I guess I'm missing your point. Are you saying because Case went undrafted he is not allowed to have fans and if he does, they are "fan boys"? I think the entire CK "fan boy" thing is completely contrived. Maybe it makes true fan boys of VY (and to a much lesser extant JFF) feel better about themselves to invent such a thing. I'd be pretty embarrassed too if I acted like that.

NCTexan
06-18-2014, 10:50 PM
PDS ‏@PatDStat 3m

According to @ProFootballTalk the #Texans have traded T.J. Yates to the Atlanta Falcons for LB Akeem Dent.

EVOLVIST
06-19-2014, 02:58 AM
I know NCTexan will lambast me - hell, maybe everybody else will, too - nevertheless, am I the only one that thinks Yates simply might not be that smart of a person to play as an NFL QB? I'm not talking VY dumb, but there's always been something about Yates on and off the field that just didn't add up to him processing information. It's as if Keenum thought too much, and Yates with his slow release (despite his NFL caliber velocity - 62mph?) took longer to process the same information. This is the same thing I believe that riddled him in college.

The success that Yates had, I believe, came from an ignorance-is-bliss scenario, until he simply could not keep up... and by "keeping up," I'm saying that he had been engrained so much in one system (in college and the pros) that OB's system was just too much for him, coupled with his mental deficits.

Contrast that to Mr. Harvard and Mr. UH and you have guys that tend to do better in quicker situations (in theory)... and then you have Mr. Cage, as a rookie, so what are you going to do? Release Mr. Playoff is the obvious answer, obviously.

Marshall
06-19-2014, 05:56 AM
Never proclaimed them to be anything more than what they are buddy....
My apologies if I failed to perceive it as it was intended. That happens more frequently these days.

PapaL
06-19-2014, 06:50 AM
Yup, looks like we got a LB for Yates. I'm cool w that. Kubes QBs will all soon be a distant memory.

NCTexan
06-19-2014, 10:27 AM
I know NCTexan will lambast me - hell, maybe everybody else will, too - nevertheless, am I the only one that thinks Yates simply might not be that smart of a person to play as an NFL QB? I'm not talking VY dumb, but there's always been something about Yates on and off the field that just didn't add up to him processing information.

Nope! No lambasting here.

To be honest I was happy when we took Yates, but I didn't expect much from him out of college. Most of my expectations for him actually came after he had played in the NFL and I thought he might have the chance to be a better NFL QB than college QB.

When he did not seem to improve from season to season my hope was pretty homerish and partially just counter to the Keenum-love that was/is so prevalent.

I think if I were to look at it honestly, I'm not sure I would disagree with the statement that the game never "slowed down" for Yates as much as it seems to for successful players.

Playoffs
06-19-2014, 05:35 PM
D. Orlando Ledbetter ‏@AJCFalcons
#Falcons waive quarterback Dominique Davis. T.J. Yates ascends to No. 2 spot. | Atlanta #Falcons blog http://shar.es/MnUf7 via @sharethis

Thorn
06-19-2014, 05:56 PM
D. Orlando Ledbetter ‏@AJCFalcons

Good news for TJ, I'm happy for him.

CloakNNNdagger
06-19-2014, 05:58 PM
Good news for TJ, I'm happy for him.

Ditto.

houstonspartan
06-19-2014, 07:18 PM
Good news for TJ, I'm happy for him.


Yeah, the guy deserves a fresh start. He kinda got lost in the shuffle and ignored amid last years madness.

I don't think he's a spectacular QB, but, I have no ill will towards the guy. Seems like a cool dude.

badboy
06-19-2014, 10:28 PM
i told you guys nobody named TJ would ever be a great quarterback.

if you cant use your first name, there's no point in using you.

how many great QBs when with two letters for their first name?dadburn parents screwed him up.

EVOLVIST
06-19-2014, 11:54 PM
i told you guys nobody named TJ would ever be a great quarterback.

if you cant use your first name, there's no point in using you.

how many great QBs with two letters for their first name?

Y.A. Tittle. 7x Pro Bowl, 4 x All-Pro, 4 NFL MVP award. Played 16 years. Pro Football Hall of Fame class of 1971. Jersey retired by the New York Giants.

That's enough.

steelbtexan
06-20-2014, 12:01 AM
Y.A. Tittle. 7x Pro Bowl, 4 x All-Pro, 4 NFL MVP award. Played 16 years. Pro Football Hall of Fame class of 1971. Jersey retired by the New York Giants.

That's enough.

QFT

You historian, there will be none of this on this MB.

badboy
06-20-2014, 12:10 AM
Y.A. Tittle. 7x Pro Bowl, 4 x All-Pro, 4 NFL MVP award. Played 16 years. Pro Football Hall of Fame class of 1971. Jersey retired by the New York Giants.

That's enough. YAH tittie good!

Playoffs
06-20-2014, 12:16 AM
Y.A. Tittle. 7x Pro Bowl, 4 x All-Pro, 4 NFL MVP award. Played 16 years. Pro Football Hall of Fame class of 1971. Jersey retired by the New York Giants.

That's enough.

Game. Set. Match.

PapaL
06-20-2014, 12:29 AM
Y.A. Tittle. 7x Pro Bowl, 4 x All-Pro, 4 NFL MVP award. Played 16 years. Pro Football Hall of Fame class of 1971. Jersey retired by the New York Giants.

That's enough.
There goes that smarter than everyone else theory he had.

DBCooper
06-20-2014, 07:25 AM
There goes that smarter than everyone else theory he had.

That theory was dashed on the rocks of despair fairly quickly.

DBCooper
06-20-2014, 12:30 PM
YA Tittle???

you had to go back to the 40s and 50s to get your answer?

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooool


Definitely the rule.

not the exception.


:toropalm:

Yeah, but he has a full head of hair from the top of his head to the bottom of his neck!

EVOLVIST
06-20-2014, 04:32 PM
YA Tittle???

you had to go back to the 40s and 50s to get your answer?

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooool


Definitely the rule.

This here is Texas. In Texas football is king. You don't have to root up too much topsoil in Texas to find a Hall of Fame quarterback, born and raised in Marshall, Texas to prove a point.