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wolf123
06-12-2014, 12:37 PM
With the Falcons being picked that means we will get to see our beloved Texans on Hard knocks for the practices and the Pre-season Game!!:gamer:

TEXANS84
06-12-2014, 01:20 PM
With the Falcons being picked that means we will get to see our beloved Texans on Hard knocks for the practices and the Pre-season Game!!:gamer:

Just saw that as well, that should be interesting.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/12/falcons-selected-for-hbos-hard-knocks/

kingtexan
06-12-2014, 01:23 PM
Doubt BoB lets the cameras in very close to the Texans.

wolf123
06-12-2014, 01:40 PM
Doubt BoB lets the cameras in very close to the Texans.

Don't you try and steal my JOY!:cutthroat:

Playoffs
06-12-2014, 01:41 PM
AdamWexlerCSN ‏@awexler
The Tues. Aug 19 Hard Knocks episode (ep. 3) should feature the #Texans-#Falcons joint practices & 8/16 preseason game. @HBO

HOU-TEX
06-12-2014, 02:20 PM
I'm not going to expect much, if anything at all, considering they're coming here. I reckon we'd see a bit more if we went to Atl.

xtruroyaltyx
06-12-2014, 02:55 PM
Just seeing how their players respond to our players is going to be nice.

There's gotta be at least one fight right?

Would love to hear a player on the Falcons talk about how #?? is a beast or really any kind of insight.

Norg
06-12-2014, 08:49 PM
is dunta still with the falcons ..???

The Pencil Neck
06-12-2014, 11:33 PM
is dunta still with the falcons ..???

lol

:kubepalm:

beerlover
06-13-2014, 12:37 AM
HBO is still "under-rated" hard to believe with all the hype but it just is. :spit:

False Start
06-13-2014, 05:34 PM
Cool, I watch every year, but it will be especially interesting to see the Texans on there. :texflag:

wolf123
06-13-2014, 10:43 PM
Cool, I watch every year, but it will be especially interesting to see the Texans on there. :texflag:

Same!!! I love me some Hard Knocks:whip:

Playoffs
06-15-2014, 10:11 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/130014/dimitroff-all-on-board-with-hard-knocks
The Atlanta Falcons aren’t the only team that will have to be comfortable with an inordinate amount of cameras at training camp.

Part of the process of HBO’s "Hard Knocks" trailing the Falcons includes a trip to Houston, where the Falcons and Texans will hold a pair of joint practices (Aug. 13-14) leading up to their Aug. 16 preseason matchup.

The film crew won’t travel on the plane with the Falcons, but it will be inside Houston Methodist Training Center for the Falcons’ arrival.

Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff thoroughly discussed the matter with the Texans.

"I’ve talked to the general manager, Rick Smith, and Smitty [Mike Smith] has talked to Coach [Bill] O’Brien, and they are comfortable with it," Dimitroff said. "[Hard Knocks] will not be showcasing the other team that we will be visiting. They’ll continue to focus on our team."
...
HBO debuts "Hard Knocks: Training Camp with the Falcons" on Aug. 5.

Playoffs
08-12-2014, 12:52 PM
Brian T. Smith ‏@ChronBrianSmith
Thirty members of @NFLFilms crew will be shooting #Texans-#Falcons practices Wednesday and Thursday for @HBO's "Hard Knocks." #NFL

DX-TEX
08-12-2014, 12:58 PM
Brian T. Smith ‏@ChronBrianSmith

Guess BOB gonna have to choke someone.

b0ng
08-12-2014, 01:08 PM
I'm not going to lie, this season of hard knocks has seemed a little more boring than most. I'm just hoping the Texans don't make it even more boring. Anybody going to TC those two days?

Mr teX
08-12-2014, 01:12 PM
dont know what all fuss is about, hard knocks doesnt typically show much of the other team.......unless a skirmish or some other crap breaks out

xtruroyaltyx
08-12-2014, 01:54 PM
dont know what all fuss is about, hard knocks doesnt typically show much of the other team.......unless a skirmish or some other crap breaks out

Just that glimpse into one of those practices is exciting to me.

I want to see how some of our players match up with their guys as well...

They'll probably show Matthews vs Clowney at some point...

Talent appreciates talent. It's just no fun beating up on those who are far less talented than you are. Simple enough, no? And when those opportunities present themselves, you can't help but get excited. Such is the case for our young right tackle. Per the Falcons' Jay Adams, this week presents a unique opportunity for Jake Matthews.

He could see himself in matchups against Watt and draft-mate Clowney, and having the chance to measure himself this week is an opportunity he relishes: "Like I've said, I love the challenge of going against the best players. I want to see where I'm at. I want to see where I can improve. There's always going to be areas I can improve in so it's going to be a really good challenge for us up front."

Can you really blame him? It's perfectly natural to compare yourself to others. As humble as Matthews is, you'd better bet he wants to prove his worth.



More at link (http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2014/8/11/5993449/jake-matthews-looking-forward-to-opportunity-to-play-against-jj-watt)

b0ng
08-12-2014, 01:59 PM
dont know what all fuss is about, hard knocks doesnt typically show much of the other team.......unless a skirmish or some other crap breaks out

They'll still show them practicing against the Texans, scuffle or no, since I doubt they are just going to cut off 2 days worth of footage. No, there won't be interviews of Texans players or any of that, but we will actually get to see something I've kind of wanted to see for a few years now: Texans on Hard Knocks. No, it's not a season of Hard Knocks, but one week is acceptable.

kiwitexansfan
08-12-2014, 05:45 PM
Just that glimpse into one of those practices is exciting to me.

I want to see how some of our players match up with their guys as well...

They'll probably show Matthews vs Clowney at some point...





More at link (http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2014/8/11/5993449/jake-matthews-looking-forward-to-opportunity-to-play-against-jj-watt)

IIRC from the highlights, Matthews struggled in his preseason debut.

He can't handle Clowney.

Tolar's Ghost
08-13-2014, 10:14 PM
Hard Knocks focuses very, very little on "the other team."

TV critique: After two episodes, this season's series is disappointing. It's pretty much Coach Smith repeating how "tough, but smart" the Falcons are going to be.

Smith seems like a nice guy. But he looks like he should be with Mike and Frank on American Pickers.

- William Moore might be a good DB. But his extremely expensive, extremely tacky house, indicates he could be the type of player who's broke a few years after his football career is over.

houstonspartan
08-14-2014, 05:36 PM
Hard Knocks focuses very, very little on "the other team."

TV critique: After two episodes, this season's series is disappointing. It's pretty much Coach Smith repeating how "tough, but smart" the Falcons are going to be.

Smith seems like a nice guy. But he looks like he should be with Mike and Frank on American Pickers.

- William Moore might be a good DB. But his extremely expensive, extremely tacky house, indicates he could be the type of player who's broke a few years after his football career is over.


Agree with this. Haven't been impressed by the first two episodes.

wolf123
08-14-2014, 08:04 PM
Agree with this. Haven't been impressed by the first two episodes.

First episode was bad. But the 2nd was a lot better. :gamer:

False Start
08-14-2014, 08:09 PM
The only things they showed of the Titans last week were the plays when the Falcons players were getting over on the Titans. I have a feeling it will be that way with the Texans too.

Texian
08-14-2014, 08:31 PM
The only things they showed of the Titans last week were the plays when the Falcons players were getting over on the Titans. I have a feeling it will be that way with the Texans too.

It's going to be about 97% Falcons.

xtruroyaltyx
08-14-2014, 08:43 PM
Texans have some good high profile players. I could see us getting a little more air time than the inbreds. But if we don't, oh well. I'll still be interested in seeing it.

False Start
08-14-2014, 09:00 PM
Texans have some good high profile players. I could see us getting a little more air time than the inbreds. But if we don't, oh well. I'll still be interested in seeing it.

Yep.

beerlover
08-14-2014, 09:01 PM
Guess 3% is better than nothing at all?

Frankly dear I don't give a damn, not watching any of it.

Lambert
08-16-2014, 03:50 AM
Matthews has trouble with Brooks Reed---lots of holding in his first game and in Atlanta/Texans practice. If he had "good and bad moments" Vs Reed, you only need one or two "Bad moments" a game to make you a failure.

fiasco west
08-17-2014, 06:02 AM
The only things they showed of the Titans last week were the plays when the Falcons players were getting over on the Titans. I have a feeling it will be that way with the Texans too.

We'll see some highlights of the game, maybe they'll cut to the Clowney play and one of the Falcons players will say "Man he fast brah..." and you'll see some players saying "Good game" after it ends.

We may get a fight during the practice though, probably involving Swearinger...but then Coach Smith does disapprove of that sort of thing, all the fighting...well except for after the practice where he then tells the players they need to be tougher and that if they need to stick up for a fellow player than do so.

BullsOnParade
08-17-2014, 06:01 PM
should be fun to see what they include from the game

DocBar
08-18-2014, 06:48 PM
We'll see some highlights of the game, maybe they'll cut to the Clowney play and one of the Falcons players will say "Man he fast brah..." and you'll see some players saying "Good game" after it ends.

We may get a fight during the practice though, probably involving Swearinger...but then Coach Smith does disapprove of that sort of thing, all the fighting...well except for after the practice where he then tells the players they need to be tougher and that if they need to stick up for a fellow player than do so.That play in the game where JAG ( #90 ) slobberknockered Atlanta's stud ( :spit: ) RB and rung his bell til it broke? That highlight? Or the sack he had on the next play? You need to be specific with Clowney preseason highlight plays, dammit!!! :fingergun:

gtexan02
08-19-2014, 11:19 PM
Anyone see it?

Pollardized
08-19-2014, 11:22 PM
Anyone see it?

Yep. Texans got some air time. Swearinger talking much shit on the field. Lots of respect for JJ.

houstonspartan
08-19-2014, 11:46 PM
Anyone see it?

!@#!!! Forgot to set the DVR to record it. Left, came back, expecting to watch it, and it's not recorded.

Luckily the West Coast version is on in about 15 minutes, so I'll catch it then. So far, this has been a dull Hard Knocks. Frankly, the Falcons are a boring team.

False Start
08-20-2014, 02:18 AM
They actually made the Texans look really good. They gave them a lot more play than I thought they would. JJ got lots of love. The Falcons were happy that he wasn't active for the game, but then they discovered they had to account for Clowney, :littlelol:

Scooter
08-20-2014, 02:19 AM
the "baddest man on the planet" solo walkout that they did for JJ watt was pretty dang epic.

the slow motion behind the line shot of clowney's sack is ... i dont have a word, it's beyond description. clowney's moving past the left tackle before he can even turn his head at the snap. "shot out of a cannon" is taking a new meaning, this is ridiculous.

edit: and i'm getting a bit tired of swearinger's schtick. he's turning into cortland finnegan, without any of 'innegan's results.

False Start
08-20-2014, 02:59 AM
the "baddest man on the planet" solo walkout that they did for JJ watt was pretty dang epic.

the slow motion behind the line shot of clowney's sack is ... i dont have a word, it's beyond description. clowney's moving past the left tackle before he can even turn his head at the snap. "shot out of a cannon" is taking a new meaning, this is ridiculous.

edit: and i'm getting a bit tired of swearinger's schtick. he's turning into cortland finnegan, without any of 'innegan's results.

Yes it was... very cool (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-hard-knocks/0ap3000000380954/Hard-Knocks-J-J-Watt-is-a-monster)! :swatter:

Texn4life
08-20-2014, 05:05 AM
JJ Watt raped Matthews... Goodness he almost made him do a split. Watt is absolutely no joke at all. If I was Matthews I wouldn't feel bad at all, JJ Watt is on track for the HOF and NOBODY can block him one on one, but seeing his strength in those drills man... Dude is a direct descendant of the Football God.

This post on the Falcon forum kind of made me chuckle a little. Watt did have him on skates during the piece.

klockWork
08-20-2014, 08:22 AM
HBO portrayed Watt in such a scary cinematic manner I nearly pissed my pants but didn't because I'd remember he's on my team.

xtruroyaltyx
08-20-2014, 08:38 AM
Told y'all the texans would get some air time :)

klockWork
08-20-2014, 08:53 AM
Lol. JJ Watt had some nice things to say about Jake Mathews but referred to him as "little right tackle" 3 times to one of the coaches. Jake is 6'5 300lb. I guess thru JJ pov everyone is....
http://www.okmoviequotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Hulk-quotes.gif

HOU-TEX
08-20-2014, 09:58 AM
My dislike for Swearinger grew a little more last night. It'd be different if his performer came anywhere close to the amount of BS he spews....But it doesn't! He's hurt this team more than helped it since he got here.

He even had coach Smith make a comment about his lip.

I hope he eventually gets it, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

nero THE zero
08-20-2014, 10:35 AM
Yep, they made Swearinger look at bad as they made Watt look good. And, they made Watt look really, really good (which I suppose doesn't take much effort).

Playoffs
08-20-2014, 11:02 AM
Bruce Matthews is no ordinary Dad, he's a Hall Of Fame tackle.

But like all Dads, he worries. Today, he has good reason:


https://twitter.com/nfl/status/501945487579033600

:texflag:

Edit: Single view token invalidated, probably because of embedded add. Video is in the above tweet link.

Also here: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-hard-knocks/0ap3000000380954/Hard-Knocks-J-J-Watt-is-a-monster

Carr Bombed
08-20-2014, 11:05 AM
Bruce Matthews is no ordinary Dad, he's a Hall Of Fame tackle.

But like all Dads, he worries. Today, he has good reason:


http://media.snappytv.com/video/magnum/importasset/9602/clip/928000.mp4?token=1408546822_b7bbf450be99b43eeb907b ccec91bd8e

:texflag:

Link isn't working for me, but it could just be my phone.

xtruroyaltyx
08-20-2014, 11:44 AM
Falcons fan:

That episode showed how big of an *** clown the falcons really are. First 22min we clowned around all up until JJ Watt came out with a knees brace on his arm squirting an a water bottle looking like a robotic version of triple H. He chocked out the guy who we call a freak. While our 3 receivers joked about not being able to be stopped. Harry got into it with #36 so 36 punked him out and dam near killed Julio in the game. All that with a blowout final score. We are not that guy! Not the tough one. It's just not our head coach so it's not who we are.

http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/topic/4008967-falcons-on-hard-knocksgetting-lame/page__st__40

nero THE zero
08-20-2014, 12:10 PM
Falcons fan:



http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/topic/4008967-falcons-on-hard-knocksgetting-lame/page__st__40

Ugh. "That fan" is the worst.

cstyle42
08-20-2014, 12:21 PM
JJ Watt is a freaking monster unfreakinbelievable Jake Matthews has nothing to be ashamed about.

Blake
08-20-2014, 02:20 PM
I loved it. Texans got more air time than I thought they would. JJ Watt looked scary as shit with his introduction. Schooled Matthews and then said he would be a good little tackle someday. They made Clowney look awesome with his pair of plays, and DJ talked a lot of shit, but at least DJ didn't retaliate when Harry Douglas took a swing at him. Then DJ lit up Julio to end the starters segment. A lot about Yates coming back to Houston, he looked like poo in the game.

I do agree with others that Mike Smith keeps talking about how they are tough, but it just isnt working. He has this really nice grandpa look to him. And his players obviously arent buying that they are tough because the Texans just knocked the snot out of them.

Playoffs
08-20-2014, 02:37 PM
I need to find someplace to watch Texans episode.

Not buying HBO just for one hour.

I wonder if anyone is posting them on YouTube behind "hidden"/private links?

houstonspartan
08-20-2014, 03:50 PM
I need to find someplace to watch Texans episode.

Not buying HBO just for one hour.

I wonder if anyone is posting them on YouTube behind "hidden"/private links?

What's your cable provider? Call them up, tell them you're thinking about adding HBO, and ask if they can give you a free trial of a month or two. They most likely will say yes.

houstonspartan
08-20-2014, 03:51 PM
I do agree with others that Mike Smith keeps talking about how they are tough, but it just isnt working. He has this really nice grandpa look to him. And his players obviously arent buying that they are tough because the Texans just knocked the snot out of them.


The Falcons remind me of the Texans under Kubiak a few years ago: milquetoast coach, some talent on the team, but, all talk.

The sad thing is, I'd take their QB in a heart beat...

infantrycak
08-20-2014, 03:55 PM
The Falcons remind me of the Texans under Kubiak a few years ago: milquetoast coach, some talent on the team, but, all talk.

The sad thing is, I'd take their QB in a heart beat...

For the love of all that is holy, being boring at a press conference doesn't mean someone has the same demeanor as a coach. Kubiak by all reports from the team and insiders was no milquetoast at all.

houstonspartan
08-20-2014, 04:01 PM
For the love of all that is holy, being boring at a press conference doesn't mean someone has the same demeanor as a coach. Kubiak by all reports from the team and insiders was no milquetoast at all.

I never said anything about Kubiak's press conferences. Nor about his not looking at field goals. Nor about any other trivial things people have held against Kubiak.

What I am saying, is that his message stopped getting through; and it appears that, on the surface, the same thing is going on with the Falcons. No, I do not work for the Falcons, and do not know what's going on, or what Mike Smith is like. I am saying, however, that based on what they've shown, Smith reminds me of Kubiak. That is all.

Clear enough? Sorry to offend you by calling out Kubiak.

infantrycak
08-20-2014, 04:13 PM
I never said anything about Kubiak's press conferences. Nor about his not looking at field goals. Nor about any other trivial things people have held against Kubiak.

What I am saying, is that his message stopped getting through; and it appears that, on the surface, the same thing is going on with the Falcons. No, I do not work for the Falcons, and do not know what's going on, or what Mike Smith is like. I am saying, however, that based on what they've shown, Smith reminds me of Kubiak. That is all.

Clear enough? Sorry to offend you by calling out Kubiak.

You didn't offend me in the least.

The point is what the public sees of a coach and how he is around the players is often very different and that was the case with Kubiak. Not the same situation with Smith where you are getting a look at his coaching persona.

Vance87
08-20-2014, 04:15 PM
HBO portrayed Watt in such a scary cinematic manner I nearly pissed my pants but didn't because I'd remember he's on my team.

I wouldn't even want to be the guy holding the football pretending to be the QB...

gtexan02
08-20-2014, 04:18 PM
You didn't offend me in the least.

The point is what the public sees of a coach and how he is around the players is often very different and that was the case with Kubiak. Not the same situation with Smith where you are getting a look at his coaching persona.

We've been told by the players themselves how different O'Brien is than Kubiak, both on the field and off. I'm sure Kubiak got upset at times - that doesn't make him a tough guy or intense head coach

infantrycak
08-20-2014, 04:27 PM
We've been told by the players themselves how different O'Brien is than Kubiak, both on the field and off. I'm sure Kubiak got upset at times - that doesn't make him a tough guy or intense head coach

Have you ever heard a single player in all your NFL observation describe a new HC as anything like a fired HC?

xtruroyaltyx
08-20-2014, 04:39 PM
O’Brien can also be intense. For a team that was often too soft in recent seasons and was plagued by poor execution in 2013, having a fiery, loud coach has initially shaken up the Texans.

“It’s something that was needed around this place,” Johnson said.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/07/andre-johnson-says-texans-need-bill-obriens-loud-fire/#25408101=0

Seems Dre is implying that it wasn't something they had before.

Personally, I don't care about a coach's demeanor.

Is he a good head coach or not? In Kubiak's case, my opinion is no. Great offensive mind. Not a good head coach. JMO.

Double Barrel
08-20-2014, 04:46 PM
I don't know about demeanor, but Kubiak's gameplans and inability to make meaningful adjustments is the definition of "milquetoast (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/milquetoast)": timid, meek, or unassertive.

His team's personae was often milquetoas (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/milquetoast)t against superior teams (i.e. "especially one who is easily dominated or intimidated"). It is often said that teams take on the personae of their head coach, and their dismal record against winning teams for 8 years says it all.

houstonspartan
08-20-2014, 05:17 PM
I don't know about demeanor, but Kubiak's gameplans and inability to make meaningful adjustments is the definition of "milquetoast (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/milquetoast)": timid, meek, or unassertive.

His team's personae was often milquetoas (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/milquetoast)t against superior teams (i.e. "especially one who is easily dominated or intimidated"). It is often said that teams take on the personae of their head coach, and their dismal record against winning teams for 8 years says it all.

One of the most amazing things about this team over the last 8 years is how, when faced with a strong opponent or big stage (Sunday Night, Monday Night, Thursday Night) this team completely and utterly folded. It was truly amazing to watch.

Honoring Earl 34
08-20-2014, 05:21 PM
One of the most amazing things about this team over the last 8 years is how, when faced with a strong opponent or big stage (Sunday Night, Monday Night, Thursday Night) this team completely and utterly folded. It was truly amazing to watch.

They came apart like a cheap rug .

drs23
08-20-2014, 06:23 PM
Anyone else have the sneaking suspicion/feeling that the Texans get tagged for Hard Knocks next season since the league is force feeding it? We've never been on, won't have the "first year head coach" out and if we have a decent showing this season, I see us as being a prime candidate.

I wouldn't mind seeing what they "kinda" look like behind closed doors.

houstonspartan
08-20-2014, 06:32 PM
Anyone else have the sneaking suspicion/feeling that the Texans get tagged for Hard Knocks next season since the league is force feeding it? We've never been on, won't have the "first year head coach" out and if we have a decent showing this season, I see us as being a prime candidate.

I wouldn't mind seeing what they "kinda" look like behind closed doors.

Ha! Last night, while in the middle of watching, the following thought randomly jumped into my head: we're next.

Yep, our turn is coming. We're the newest team in the NFL, and no one knows about us, behind the scenes. And, next year we'll still be in "development" mode, trying to figure out the QB situation, etc.

We're next.

DocBar
08-20-2014, 06:35 PM
Anyone else have the sneaking suspicion/feeling that the Texans get tagged for Hard Knocks next season since the league is force feeding it? We've never been on, won't have the "first year head coach" out and if we have a decent showing this season, I see us as being a prime candidate.

I wouldn't mind seeing what they "kinda" look like behind closed doors.Could happen, but I would expect major lobbying/incentives added. Houston gets a Super Bowl if they do it or extra prime time games. Oddly enough, Mr. McNair will have a huge say in this and might just give it a go for the extra media coverage. Especially if the Texan's rebound this year to a decent record. 6+ wins, I'm all in. LOL

Scooter
08-20-2014, 06:37 PM
haven't the texans turned down hard knocks a time or two already?

DocBar
08-20-2014, 06:38 PM
haven't the texans turned down hard knocks a time or two already?Under Kubiak, iirc.

houstonspartan
08-20-2014, 07:01 PM
Could happen, but I would expect major lobbying/incentives added. Houston gets a Super Bowl if they do it or extra prime time games. Oddly enough, Mr. McNair will have a huge say in this and might just give it a go for the extra media coverage. Especially if the Texan's rebound this year to a decent record. 6+ wins, I'm all in. LOL


We are already getting a Super Bowl.

houstonspartan
08-20-2014, 07:02 PM
Under Kubiak, iirc.


Yep. Kubiak said no.

drs23
08-20-2014, 07:40 PM
haven't the texans turned down hard knocks a time or two already?

As stated, yes, under Kubiak.

It's no longer an option.

If there are no volunteers then the league will "volunteer" for you.

I think it'll be us.*







Four paragraphs in memory of GP. :kitten:

Ryan
08-20-2014, 07:42 PM
As stated, yes, under Kubiak.

It's no longer an option.

If there are no volunteers then the league will "volunteer" for you.

I think it'll be us.*







Four paragraphs in memory of GP. :kitten:

We're immune from being volunteered if we have been to the playoffs within the last two years, so we are eligible if we do not get in this year.

Pollardized
08-20-2014, 08:35 PM
As stated, yes, under Kubiak.

It's no longer an option.

If there are no volunteers then the league will "volunteer" for you.

I think it'll be us.*







Four paragraphs in memory of GP. :kitten:

What happened to that dude?

houstonspartan
08-20-2014, 10:21 PM
As stated, yes, under Kubiak.



It's no longer an option.



If there are no volunteers then the league will "volunteer" for you.



I think it'll be us.*















Four paragraphs in memory of GP. :kitten:


Yep. We are next.

cstyle42
08-20-2014, 11:55 PM
I need to find someplace to watch Texans episode.

Not buying HBO just for one hour.

I wonder if anyone is posting them on YouTube behind "hidden"/private links?

http://m.firedrive.com/file/9B2621815342FFBA

Texans portion of Hard Knocks starts at about the 27:00 mark.

TEXANRED
08-21-2014, 12:33 AM
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/07/andre-johnson-says-texans-need-bill-obriens-loud-fire/#25408101=0

Seems Dre is implying that it wasn't something they had before.

Personally, I don't care about a coach's demeanor.

Is he a good head coach or not? In Kubiak's case, my opinion is no. Great offensive mind. Not a good head coach. JMO.

Kubiak is the next Norv Turner.

Vinnie
08-21-2014, 12:41 AM
http://m.firedrive.com/file/9B2621815342FFBA

Texans portion of Hard Knocks starts at about the 27:00 mark.

My computer feels very unclean after clicking that link.

False Start
08-21-2014, 01:55 AM
Link isn't working for me, but it could just be my phone.

This one works that I had posted before in this post:

Yes it was... very cool (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-hard-knocks/0ap3000000380954/Hard-Knocks-J-J-Watt-is-a-monster)! :swatter:

xtruroyaltyx
08-21-2014, 10:51 AM
I liked the episode...Didn't have any problem with Swearinger either...

In fact I LOVED it..

HOU-TEX
08-21-2014, 11:42 AM
I liked the episode...Didn't have any problem with Swearinger either...

In fact I LOVED it..

So, I guess you don't have a problem with him getting the 15 yard flags? Causing his defense to stay on the field?

Eh, the dude's mouth writes checks that his play can't cash imo.

xtruroyaltyx
08-21-2014, 11:53 AM
So, I guess you don't have a problem with him getting the 15 yard flags? Causing his defense to stay on the field?

Eh, the dude's mouth writes checks that his play can't cash imo.

His mouth didn't get him any penalty flags.

And I like him as a player and think he will be good this year. That aside, he was all in the Falcons players heads.

He had Douglas taking a swing at him in practice. Roddy White and Julio dropping passes. They were so consumed with him they were even on the sideline talking about him. And then he comes up and makes the big hit on Julio and almost came up with a pick on another play.

No, I don't have any issue with having a firecracker back there on the back end. Ultimately, his play on the field is what will keep him on the field, but if he can turn into a good player, then I welcome that attitude. He's not backing down from anyone and he's going to have his teammates backs and he's going to be hated by opponents. I LOVE it.

Football matters a lot to him. Fans clamor for players with passion and ferocity all the time. Dude likes to play football, hit people, beat down opponents and talk shit. He provides an edge that football teams need.

You should go over to the Falcons board and here them talking about how Swearinger punked their soft team and how they wished they had a guy like him.

disaacks3
08-21-2014, 12:17 PM
His mouth didn't get him any penalty flags. It definitely did last year. Taunting calls are all about his mouth.

HOU-TEX
08-21-2014, 12:19 PM
His mouth didn't get him any penalty flags.

And I like him as a player and think he will be good this year. That aside, he was all in the Falcons players heads.

He had Douglas taking a swing at him in practice. Roddy White and Julio dropping passes. They were so consumed with him they were even on the sideline talking about him. And then he comes up and makes the big hit on Julio and almost came up with a pick on another play.

No, I don't have any issue with having a firecracker back there on the back end. Ultimately, his play on the field is what will keep him on the field, but if he can turn into a good player, then I welcome that attitude. He's not backing down from anyone and he's going to have his teammates backs and he's going to be hated by opponents. I LOVE it.

Football matters a lot to him. Fans clamor for players with passion and ferocity all the time. Dude likes to play football, hit people, beat down opponents and talk shit. He provides an edge that football teams need.

You should go over to the Falcons board and here them talking about how Swearinger punked their soft team and how they wished they had a guy like him.

He accounted for his fair share of dumb penalties as a rookie last year. Given he's a year in, I'd assume we'll see more of the same.

I'm all for that firecracker you're talking about. It's a matter of being smart about it. Taunting after a hit is not being smart. Doing a useless celebration with a teammate after a play is not smart. I'm totally for ferocity, especially on defense. Heck, Deion Sanders trash talked more than anyone I've seen and rarely cost him team by being dumb. Until Rison came along lol

I'm hoping he'll learn the limits and get right. More importantly, I'm hoping his coverage skills catch up to the mouth

xtruroyaltyx
08-21-2014, 01:13 PM
Swearinger had 4 penalties last year:

1 face mask
1 defensive holding
1 taunting
1 unnecessary roughness

http://www.nflpenalties.com/all-players.php

The flag he got for taunting was in the Jacksonville game right before Kubiak got fired. Antonio Smith used to be involved in a lot of things too.

Go look at some of the penalties by players. Swearinger wasn't even close to being a flag magnet for this team. That's one flag every 4 games.

Duane Brown had 7 penalties with one being a personal foul and one for taunting.


I can't convince anyone to like Swearinger and that's not what I'm trying to do. All I did was write why I do like him. And if he doesn't live up to what I expect of him with his play, then I'll sour on him as a player...but not because of his talking and histrionics.

xtruroyaltyx
08-21-2014, 01:14 PM
It definitely did last year. Taunting calls are all about his mouth.

Taunting

Definition

A form of unsportsmanlike conduct. Includes any "prolonged and premeditated celebrations" by players including those that use props such as the end zone pylon in a touchdown celebration.

http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/dj-swearinger-hips.jpg

I don't think it was his mouth. I think it was him getting in the guys face and being all demonstrative. He pointed the guy towards the sideline as well.

Playoffs
08-21-2014, 01:53 PM
His mouth didn't get him any penalty flags.

And I like him as a player and think he will be good this year. That aside, he was all in the Falcons players heads.

He had Douglas taking a swing at him in practice. Roddy White and Julio dropping passes. They were so consumed with him they were even on the sideline talking about him. And then he comes up and makes the big hit on Julio and almost came up with a pick on another play.

No, I don't have any issue with having a firecracker back there on the back end. Ultimately, his play on the field is what will keep him on the field, but if he can turn into a good player, then I welcome that attitude. He's not backing down from anyone and he's going to have his teammates backs and he's going to be hated by opponents. I LOVE it.

Football matters a lot to him. Fans clamor for players with passion and ferocity all the time. Dude likes to play football, hit people, beat down opponents and talk shit. He provides an edge that football teams need.

You should go over to the Falcons board and here them talking about how Swearinger punked their soft team and how they wished they had a guy like him.

It's all about punkness, punkosity, and depunking yourself...

#Broncos' Rahim Moore: "This just shows you that the #Texans, they’re not going to back down. They’re no punks and neither are we." #NFL

klockWork
08-21-2014, 01:54 PM
I love Swearinger. I think he's gonna be a helluva player. Yeah he miss alot of tackle. But that also shows he has the instinct and talent to get to the area of plays. That's much harder to teach than tackle.

And his mouth. I kind of like it. My friend who's a Falcons fan, is Roddy White biggest fan. He watched Hard knocks with me and saw Roddy on the bench expressed frustration by #36, something he never saw anybody did in all the years he watched the Falcons game. He said to me, "Man, my boy Rod, getting own by the one thing he's always been good at, and that's talking. I always thought his speed would decline first, not his mouth."

houstonspartan
08-21-2014, 02:12 PM
I love Swearinger. I think he's gonna be a helluva player. Yeah he miss alot of tackle. But that also shows he has the instinct and talent to get to the area of plays. That's much harder to teach than tackle.

And his mouth. I kind of like it. My friend who's a Falcons fan, is Roddy White biggest fan. He watched Hard knocks with me and saw Roddy on the bench expressed frustration by #36, something he never saw anybody did in all the years he watched the Falcons game. He said to me, "Man, my boy Rod, getting own by the one thing he's always been good at, and that's talking. I always thought his speed would decline first, not his mouth."


I like Swearinger. Yes his penalties last year got on my nerves, but, a lot of that is on the coaches. He should have been benched in that second Jax game. He was a mess. But, that's ok, because the next day, McNair "benched" the head coach - for good.

Vance87
08-21-2014, 02:20 PM
I don't mind DJ talking, but he's gotta back it up. You can tell he's extremely passionate about the game, he's constantly trying to fire up the guys on the team.

Vinny
08-21-2014, 02:20 PM
I'd like Swearinger better if he played as well as he talked.

HOU-TEX
08-21-2014, 02:29 PM
I'd like Swearinger better if he played as well as he talked.

^This^

I guess I coulda made it easier on myself with a 1 liner lol.

gtexan02
08-21-2014, 03:30 PM
I'd like Swearinger better if he played as well as he talked.

Best quote of the show was from a Falcon's player to the effect of: He talks a lot but he doesn't make any plays

I loved the episode. Really enjoyed seeing the personal side of the NFL. I felt terrible for Baker after seeing him go down with that patellar tendon tear and am cheering for the Dutch kid to make the team

cstyle42
08-21-2014, 03:54 PM
Best quote of the show was from a Falcon's player to the effect of: He talks a lot but he doesn't make any plays

I loved the episode. Really enjoyed seeing the personal side of the NFL. I felt terrible for Baker after seeing him go down with that patellar tendon tear and am cheering for the Dutch kid to make the team

Lol isn't this his 2nd year in the league? Give the man some time to prove himself.

klockWork
08-21-2014, 04:00 PM
Here's links to watch last episode

http://download1477.mediafire.com/hbw8bkhid7tg/bhac8mur01t9ye7/H.Knocks%2520S09E03.mp4

alternative links

http://crixxic.noip.me/H.Knocks%20S09E03.mp4

DocBar
08-21-2014, 04:02 PM
I'd like Swearinger better if he played as well as he talked.Gawd...he would be voted into the HOF before he even retired! :toropalm:

Originally Posted by cstyle42
Lol isn't this his 2nd year in the league? Give the man some time to prove himself. Maybe he should give himself to prove himself before flapping his gums all the time? That kind of stuff works both ways.

cstyle42
08-21-2014, 04:40 PM
Gawd...he would be voted into the HOF before he even retired! :toropalm:

Maybe he should give himself to prove himself before flapping his gums all the time? That kind of stuff works both ways.

Talking trash goes both ways too dude it's football everyone doesn't play without talking back or generally talking. Different personalities are okay as long as everyone has each others back and are operating as one team.

fiasco west
08-21-2014, 07:12 PM
I loved it. Texans got more air time than I thought they would. JJ Watt looked scary as shit with his introduction. Schooled Matthews and then said he would be a good little tackle someday. They made Clowney look awesome with his pair of plays, and DJ talked a lot of shit, but at least DJ didn't retaliate when Harry Douglas took a swing at him. Then DJ lit up Julio to end the starters segment. A lot about Yates coming back to Houston, he looked like poo in the game.

I do agree with others that Mike Smith keeps talking about how they are tough, but it just isnt working. He has this really nice grandpa look to him. And his players obviously arent buying that they are tough because the Texans just knocked the snot out of them.

LOL

That really stood out to me. He dominated him and all he had to say about it was "You have a good little player, he going to be a good little tackle someday" he used the word little I'm sure like three times.

It's great to have a player that other players respect and fear that much and that intro was something out of a movie.

Nawzer
08-21-2014, 11:51 PM
Loved JJ Watt's entrance. It was badass.

JCTexan
08-22-2014, 01:00 AM
I just watched the episode. One thing I noticed was Mike Tice & the commentator both said Watt didn't play. I was pretty sure he played the first series and had a sack..

klockWork
08-22-2014, 01:07 AM
I just watched the episode. One thing I noticed was Mike Tice & the commentator both said Watt didn't play. I was pretty sure he played the first series and had a sack..
Ah, no. JJ sat out. I'm pretty sure of that.

Texn4life
08-22-2014, 01:10 AM
I just watched the episode. One thing I noticed was Mike Tice & the commentator both said Watt didn't play. I was pretty sure he played the first series and had a sack..

You're probably thinking of the Arizona disaster. Watt didn't play against the Falcons.

Vance87
08-22-2014, 01:25 AM
I just watched the episode. One thing I noticed was Mike Tice & the commentator both said Watt didn't play. I was pretty sure he played the first series and had a sack..

NC, you're outta your element.

The Pencil Neck
08-22-2014, 02:14 AM
I just watched the episode. One thing I noticed was Mike Tice & the commentator both said Watt didn't play. I was pretty sure he played the first series and had a sack..

You're thinking of the Cardinals.

He didn't play at all in the Falcon game.

False Start
08-22-2014, 02:23 PM
I just watched the episode. One thing I noticed was Mike Tice & the commentator both said Watt didn't play. I was pretty sure he played the first series and had a sack..

The relief they expressed cracked me up. :littlelol:

TheIronDuke
08-22-2014, 03:09 PM
From the episode where they make JJ look like a WWE wrestler walking out to the ring.

http://giant.gfycat.com/BriefInsidiousGnu.gif

NCTexan
08-22-2014, 03:20 PM
NC, you're outta your element.

Woah woah woah man.

JC, NC, completely different.

:kitten:

disaacks3
08-22-2014, 03:31 PM
I don't think it was his mouth. I think it was him getting in the guys face and being all demonstrative. He pointed the guy towards the sideline as well.

In his case, he was just saying, ‘Get back on the bench. Get back on the bench.’ They threw the flag on him.” Link (http://www.csnhouston.com/football-houston-texans/talk/swearinger-given-talking-about-penalty) Yep, that's his mouth.


Don't get me wrong, I like a player with a chip on their shoulder that plays with attitude. I liked the Swearinger pick when the Texans made it and still do. I'm just honest about the downside in today's NFL. Deion talked a lot too, but he had better talent to back it up. But in the "modern" NFL, Deion would be getting 3x as many flags as well.

xtruroyaltyx
08-22-2014, 03:33 PM
Link (http://www.csnhouston.com/football-houston-texans/talk/swearinger-given-talking-about-penalty) Yep, that's his mouth.


I disagree.

Like I said...He was also standing there being demonstrative.

Get back on the bench is not something in and of itself that you'd see a flag thrown for IMO.

Players talk mess to each other all the time. Get back on the bench is pretty tame.

If you go back and watch it, Swearinger was standing there in the players face pointing and making gestures.

If you watch the hardknocks episode, Swearinger was talking mess and when the WR swung on him in practice, the Falcons coaches chastised their own player and said he was wrong in the whole thing. He said they had been talking back and forth all practice, but their guy decided to swing. He said to the head coach "Harry was wrong" like 3 or 4 times.

Talking on the football field is nothing. Lots of players talk ALL THE TIME. Get back to the bench is nothing. Running over to opponents and being extra demonstrative is.

Swearinger isn't the only one out there running his mouth. You would never know he was running his mouth as much if he wasn't showing it all the time...

You think Andre doesn't talk? Duane Brown? Cushing?

Have you played football? guys are always talking mess on the field. Not everyone. But A LOT of them are.

"We finna **** yall bitches...No Jelly!!!"

"Is that your T-lady in the stands calling your name? I'm going to **** her good after we **** ya'll...****ing twice in one night!!!"

"you can't ****ing stop me bro...You are too ****ing weak *****!!!"

"Get back to the sideline!!!!"

LOL...ok...

klockWork
08-22-2014, 03:58 PM
From the episode where they make JJ look like a WWE wrestler walking out to the ring

From the Falcons point of view it probably looked more like this
http://media1.giphy.com/media/12Jbd9dZVochsQ/200.gif

Vance87
08-22-2014, 04:13 PM
Woah woah woah man.

JC, NC, completely different.

:kitten:

I guess I'm out of MY element. :headhurts:

thunderkyss
08-22-2014, 05:03 PM
My dislike for Swearinger grew a little more last night. It'd be different if his performer came anywhere close to the amount of BS he spews....

I watched several games last weekend, & the weekend before. I saw several people celebrating their plays a lot more than what Dj did when he got flagged. But, like you, I think the flag he got was a cumulative douchery type foul.

He had that hit on Julio Jones, where he stood over him saying something.. then he struck that pose. Then of course the play where he was flagged.

It's like that one guy said, "He's saying a lot, but he ain't making no plays."

I think the refs got tired of it & saw an opportunity. He'll most likely have a target on his back, from the refs, all season.

JCTexan
08-22-2014, 05:57 PM
You're probably thinking of the Arizona disaster. Watt didn't play against the Falcons.

You're thinking of the Cardinals.

He didn't play at all in the Falcon game.

Yeah, I must have been thinking about the one vs. Arizona.

klockWork
08-22-2014, 06:02 PM
It's like that one guy said, "He's saying a lot, but he ain't making no plays."

Roddy White is just sour that he let DJ broke into his head. Players jawing at each other will never say anything complimentary toward each other.

Trashing talking is just another tool in the game of any sports. If DJ played the game with duct tape over his mouth I guarantee you he won't last long in this league. Besides getting into an opposing player head it also serves as a stimulus, pumping himself up and teammates. And it also makes the game fun!

xtruroyaltyx
08-22-2014, 06:03 PM
He had that hit on Julio Jones, where he stood over him saying something.. then he struck that pose. Then of course the play where he was flagged.


I think that was the play he got flagged on.

And the Flag was for the synchronized handshake celebration I think. I don't think you can have any planned things like that.

ThaShark316
08-22-2014, 07:34 PM
From the episode where they make JJ look like a WWE wrestler walking out to the ring.

http://giant.gfycat.com/BriefInsidiousGnu.gif

That's the kind of intro I need on my honeymoon, if I were to get married. "That's right, white woman, you're in trouble."

Scooter
08-22-2014, 10:06 PM
From the episode where they make JJ look like a WWE wrestler walking out to the ring.

http://giant.gfycat.com/BriefInsidiousGnu.gif

all that's missing is jim ross going ballistic "HE'S HERE!!!"

Carr Bombed
08-23-2014, 12:20 AM
all that's missing is jim ross going ballistic "HE'S HERE!!!"

And kick ass entrance music. BTW, what should that song be?

I LOL'ed at that one Falcon Fan's comment.. "He looks like Tripple H with a knee brace on his arm".

The look on HOFer Bruce Matthews' face was priceless.. Even he knew his son was getting manhandled, it was almost like he wanted to throw in a towel.

I know it was only practice, but that had to be Jake Matthew's "welcome to the NFL" moment.

Scooter
08-23-2014, 01:01 AM
And kick ass entrance music. BTW, what should that song be?

I LOL'ed at that one Falcon Fan's comment.. "He looks like Tripple H with a knee brace on his arm".

The look on HOFer Bruce Matthews' face was priceless.. Even he knew his son was getting manhandled, it was almost like he wanted to throw in a towel.

I know it was only practice, but that had to be Jake Matthew's "welcome to the NFL" moment.

the music that hard knocks used works for me - subtle and dangerous - it just needs to be cranked up.

lol i was just thinking of posting the knee brace comment, that was perfect. i was all for drafting matthews, that poor kid's eyes near popped out of his head in those drills though. and kudos to hard knocks, you really get to see the violence of those impacts that watt generates in a single step - i would be on life support with multiple broken bones and contusions with the first hit. the way they made watt and clowney look was epic all around. tice jokes "sorry, 99's not playing" ... lineman asks "what about 90?" and tice's face drops "ummm you got this" lol.

steelbtexan
08-23-2014, 10:43 AM
From the episode where they make JJ look like a WWE wrestler walking out to the ring.

http://giant.gfycat.com/BriefInsidiousGnu.gif

Awsome Gif

Repped

False Start
08-23-2014, 02:35 PM
all that's missing is jim ross going ballistic "HE'S HERE!!!"

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/J4103V/xdkR0S7.png

"IT'S JJ WATT! IT'S JJ WATT! IT'S JJ WATT! BUSINESS IS ABOUT TO PICK UP FOLKS! BAH GAWD!!! CARNAGE!"

:littlelol: :cool:

Scooter
08-23-2014, 05:56 PM
yes! lol