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CloakNNNdagger
05-27-2014, 07:30 PM
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Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock 40m

@BigRon281 Bill O'Brien had final say of the 53 man roster included in his contract. He'll be deciding who's worth the 53, not Rick Smith.:clap::clap::clap:

76Texan
05-27-2014, 07:34 PM
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:clap::clap::clap:

Yeah but if Smith decided on all the picks, the FAs, and the UDFAs, that means squat. :pop:

Just kidding.

DocBar
05-27-2014, 07:51 PM
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:clap::clap::clap:Well, we'll finally get an answer on the Smith sucks as a GM or not. :clap::clap::clap:

TexansFanatic
05-27-2014, 07:54 PM
Serious question: how many head coaches DON'T have final say on their roster?

I'm figuring most GM's have final say on who is drafted and who is signed via free agency. But I would think it's pretty common for a head coach to have final say on his roster.

Am I wrong?

76Texan
05-27-2014, 07:55 PM
Well, we'll finally get an answer on the Smith sucks as a GM or not. :clap::clap::clap:

It's a start, but we still don't know of the power scheme for sure.

thunderkyss
05-27-2014, 08:19 PM
Serious question: how many head coaches DON'T have final say on their roster?

I'm figuring most GM's have final say on who is drafted and who is signed via free agency. But I would think it's pretty common for a head coach to have final say on his roster.

Am I wrong?

That's the way I see it. I also think having final say on the 53 is just something written in to make HCs feel good. Once the owner says, sign "Ed Reed", or "Start Case Keenum." the HC is going to say, "Ok" and/or start preparing for another gig.

infantrycak
05-27-2014, 08:58 PM
Serious question: how many head coaches DON'T have final say on their roster?

I'm figuring most GM's have final say on who is drafted and who is signed via free agency. But I would think it's pretty common for a head coach to have final say on his roster.

Am I wrong?

No. But for some reason people confuse final on 53 with draft day.

houstonspartan
05-27-2014, 09:25 PM
No. But for some reason people confuse final on 53 with draft day.


Yep. That's exactly what I was thinking.

eriadoc
05-27-2014, 09:27 PM
So clearly the head coach has too much power again. ;)

DocBar
05-27-2014, 09:45 PM
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:clap::clap::clap:

Yep. That's exactly what I was thinking.

So clearly the head coach has too much power again. ;)

???WTF do you want?

DocBar
05-27-2014, 09:46 PM
???WTF do you want?Wow...Where did CnD's post get linked?

thunderkyss
05-27-2014, 09:46 PM
No. But for some reason people confuse final on 53 with draft day.

One person in particular.

steelbtexan
05-27-2014, 09:48 PM
One person in particular.

I-Cak probably still wants Kubiak.

infantrycak
05-27-2014, 11:26 PM
I-Cak probably still wants Kubiak.

What does Kubiak have to do with it?

ObsiWan
05-28-2014, 07:40 AM
Yeah but if Smith decided on all the picks, the FAs, and the UDFAs, that means squat. :pop:

Just kidding.
oh... I just noticed the "just kidding" part.

It's silly to think that the head coach doesn't ultimately decide who is on the roster.

We've been over this time and time again. The coaches tell the GM and scouts what types of players fit the schemes (O and D) and the GM and his staff go out and find guys who fit the schemes.

Everyone gathers round the big screen TV and they (they being the coaches and scouts) rank them and that's how they set their board.

Except when the owner butts in and upset the process, no one person makes a draft day call. Who gets picked is determined by round and highest rated guy on the board.

That's why O'Brien, when interviewed after the draft, was all gushy on how Rick Smith "stuck to the process" during the draft.

Are you guys calling O'Brien a liar??

76Texan
05-28-2014, 08:14 AM
oh... I just noticed the "just kidding" part.

It's silly to think that the head coach doesn't ultimately decide who is on the roster.

We've been over this time and time again. The coaches tell the GM and scouts what types of players fit the schemes (O and D) and the GM and his staff go out and find guys who fit the schemes.

Everyone gathers round the big screen TV and they (they being the coaches and scouts) rank them and that's how they set their board.

Except when the owner butts in and upset the process, no one person makes a draft day call. Who gets picked is determined by round and highest rated guy on the board.

That's why O'Brien, when interviewed after the draft, was all gushy on how Rick Smith "stuck to the process" during the draft.

Are you guys calling O'Brien a liar??
The devil is always in the details, which we don't know. :)

eriadoc
05-28-2014, 01:38 PM
???WTF do you want?

I'm referencing the idiotic comments leaked by the Texans that the coaches had too much input when Kubiak was here. JMO, but I don't know that GMs should have anything at all to do with personnel selection. They can stick to managing, not scouting and drafting.

revan
05-28-2014, 02:46 PM
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DocBar
05-28-2014, 08:27 PM
I can't wait to hear Mr. McNair tell us all that he's trying to "be a good teammate". THAT is the power of O'Brien!!!:fans:


Anybody else notice the extreme overabundance of that phrase so far?

Uncle Rico
05-28-2014, 08:45 PM
Tempo. Guy likes saying tempo.

DocBar
05-28-2014, 08:47 PM
Tempo. Guy likes saying tempo.They like the tempo of learning the playbook while working hard to be a good teammate and being coachable enough to learn the system.

thunderkyss
05-28-2014, 09:53 PM
They like the tempo of learning the playbook while working hard to be a good teammate and being coachable enough to learn the system.

& they're doing it the Texans' way.