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Playoffs
05-26-2014, 06:50 PM
OTAs May 27-29, June 2, 3, 5, 9, 10, 12, 13

Mandatory Mini-Camp June 17-19

OTAs(oraganized team activities) are voluntary practices in which no live contact can occur.

11-on-11 practice work is allowed, one-on-one drills are not allowed.

Players can't work for longer than 6 hours.

Practices are limited to 2 hours.

Coaches able to provide instruction.

:logo:

kiwitexansfan
05-26-2014, 08:06 PM
GREAT!

Look forward to hearing some new news.

Also look forward to hearing who is there.

kiwitexansfan
05-26-2014, 08:07 PM
In other news, HT.com has updated their roster:


# Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Age Exp. College
65 Ankrah, Jason OLB 6-3 262 R Nebraska
39 Ballentine, Lonnie FS 6-3 219 R Memphis
6 Bester, Lacoltan WR 6-3 208 R Oklahoma
44 Blue, Alfred RB 6-2 223 R LSU
66 Boffeli, Conor G/C 6-4 304 R Iowa
16 Bonner, Alan WR 5-10 191 23 2 Jacksonville State
2 Boswell, Chris K 6-2 185 R Rice
34 Bouye, A.J. CB 6-0 191 22 2 Central Florida
79 Brooks, Brandon G 6-5 335 24 3 Miami (Ohio)
33 Brown, Andre RB 6-0 227 27 6 North Carolina State
71 Brown, Austin NT 6-2 295 R Miami (Ohio)
76 Brown, Duane T 6-4 303 28 7 Virginia Tech
98 Browner, Keith DE 6-4 288 26 2 California
4 Bullock, Randy K 5-9 206 24 3 Texas A&M
53 Bullough, Max ILB 6-3 249 R Michigan State
20 Clemons, Chris SS 6-1 214 28 6 Clemson
90 Clowney, Jadeveon LB 6-5 266 R South Carolina
85 Coyle, Chris TE 6-4 243 R Arizona State
93 Crick, Jared DE 6-4 285 24 3 Nebraska
56 Cushing, Brian ILB 6-3 249 27 6 Southern California
81 Denham, Anthony TE 6-4 235 R Utah
71 Dima, Anthony T 6-6 295 Massachusetts
74 Feiler, Matt T 6-6 330 R Bloomsburg
78 Ferentz, James C 6-2 285 R Iowa
87 Fiedorowicz, C.J. TE 6-5 265 R Iowa
14 Fitzpatrick, Ryan QB 6-2 223 31 10 Harvard
61 Forsch, Kevin G 6-3 307 R Houston
23 Foster, Arian RB 6-1 227 27 5 Tennessee
88 Graham, Garrett TE 6-3 243 27 4 Wisconsin
84 Griffin, Ryan TE 6-6 254 24 2 Connecticut
41 Grimes, Jonathan RB 5-10 209 24 3 William & Mary
69 Grosz, Sullivan DE 6-4 295 R Cal Poly
38 Hal, Andre R 5-10 188 Vanderbilt
26 Harris, Brandon CB 5-10 189 24 4 Miami (Fla.)
51 Hazel, Paul LB 6-5 227 24 2 Western Michigan
10 Hopkins, DeAndre WR 6-1 207 21 2 Clemson
25 Jackson, Kareem DB 5-10 188 26 5 Alabama
96 Jamison, Tim DE 6-3 287 28 6 Michigan
80 Johnson, Andre WR 6-3 230 32 12 Miami (Fla.)
28 Johnson, Dennis RB 5-7 196 2 Arkansas
60 Jones, Ben C 6-3 308 24 3 Georgia
24 Joseph, Johnathan CB 5-11 188 30 9 South Carolina
7 Keenum, Case QB 6-1 205 26 3 Houston
31 Keo, Shiloh S 5-11 208 26 4 Idaho
62 Kupper, Alex G 6-3 299 24 2 Louisville
19 Labhart, Travis WR 5-9 182 R Texas A&M
9 Lechler, Shane P 6-2 237 37 15 Texas A&M
17 Lemon, Alec WR 6-2 207 2 Syracuse
21 Lewis, Kendrick FS 6-0 198 25 5 Mississippi
63 Lloyd, Terrance OLB 6-3 238 R Baylor
43 Mack, Elbert CB 5-10 175 27 6 Troy
82 Martin, Keshawn WR 5-11 194 24 3 Michigan State
94 Mathews, Ricardo DT 6-3 300 26 5 Cincinnati
64 McAllister, Chris OLB 6-2 255 R Baylor
18 McClung, Anthony WR 6-0 177 R Cincinnati
59 Mercilus, Whitney LB 6-4 258 23 3 Illinois
54 Mohamed, Mike LB 6-3 238 26 3 California
55 Myers, Chris C 6-4 286 32 10 Miami (Fla.)
75 Newton, Derek T 6-6 313 26 4 Arkansas State
92 Nix, Louis NT 6-2 331 R Notre Dame
87 Nwachukwu, Uzoma WR 5-11 198 23 2 Texas A&M
42 Opurum, Toben RB 6-1 250 23 2 Kansas
97 Pagan, Jeoffrey DE 6-3 310 R Alabama
35 Pleasant, Eddie SAF 5-10 210 25 2 Oregon
11 Posey, DeVier WR 6-1 210 24 3 Ohio State
86 Potter, Zach TE 6-7 269 28 4 Nebraska
95 Powe, Jerrell NT 6-2 331 27 3 Mississippi
45 Prosch, Jay FB 6-1 256 R Auburn
77 Quessenberry, David OT 6-5 307 23 2 San Jose State
58 Reed, Brooks OLB 6-3 254 27 4 Arizona
91 Sapp, Ricky LB 6-4 252 27 4 Clemson
3 Savage, Tom QB 6-4 228 R Pittsburgh
47 Smelley, Brad FB 6-2 235 25 2 Alabama
29 Starling, Jawanza SAF 6-1 206 22 2 USC
70 Su'a-Filo, Xavier G 6-4 307 R UCLA
36 Swearinger, D.J. SS 5-10 208 22 2 South Carolina
52 Tarpinian, Jeff LB 6-3 240 26 4 Iowa
89 Thomas, Mike WR 5-8 198 26 6 Arizona
57 Tuggle, Justin LB 6-0 247 24 2 Kansas State
27 Victorian, Josh CB 5-10 190 25 2 Louisiana Tech
74 Warmsley, Julius DE 6-2 296 R Tulane
99 Watt, J.J. DE 6-5 289 25 4 Wisconsin
46 Weeks, Jon LS 5-10 246 28 5 Baylor
67 White, Cody G 6-3 303 25 3 Illinois State
73 Williams, Brennan OT 6-6 314 23 2 North Carolina
40 Williams, Marcus CB 5-11 196 R North Dakota State
50 Williams, Trevardo OLB 6-1 237 23 2 Connecticut
72 Witzmann, Bryan T 6-7 311 R South Dakota State
13 Yates, T.J. QB 6-4 217 26 4 North Carolina
61 Young, Chris ILB 6-0 252 R Arizona State
Reserve/Injured
# Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Age Exp. College
71 Martin, Chris T 6-5 305 R UCF

AngryNateFTW
05-26-2014, 08:11 PM
Anyone know what time it's going to start? When we can be expecting updates via twitter? If I can i'll gladly help Playoffs post info.

kiwitexansfan
05-26-2014, 08:36 PM
If I can i'll gladly help Playoffs post info.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-x7eCiHqqb9U/UD0AoUuPgYI/AAAAAAAACGQ/8BNvNRNaiNE/s1600/Good+Luck+WIth+That.jpg

Many people, myself included have been seen there efforts fail dismally in beating Playoffs to a story.

Uncle Rico
05-26-2014, 09:08 PM
http://www.stateofthetexans.com/blog/2014/05/26/ten-things-to-watch-heading-into-texans-otas/

Playoffs
05-26-2014, 10:35 PM
If I can i'll gladly help Playoffs post info.
Many people, myself included have been seen there efforts fail dismally in beating Playoffs to a story.

Sorry, I'll slow my roll a bit. It gets video game-y for me at times. http://www.en.kolobok.us/content_images/emotes/big_kolobok/pardon.gif

thunderkyss
05-27-2014, 01:33 AM
http://www.stateofthetexans.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/BillOB-610x401.jpg

Poor guy. I bet he's thinking, "I thought they said it was hot down here... this ain't sht."

AngryNateFTW
05-27-2014, 05:32 AM
Here's a better picture..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bomh6n1IEAAh9qe.jpg

xtruroyaltyx
05-27-2014, 07:30 AM
Likely going to be a bubble day.

kingtexan
05-27-2014, 09:35 AM
Likely going to be a bubble day.

Ya think?

santo
05-27-2014, 10:41 AM
O'Brien is going to toughen them up by letting them play in lightning.

:choke:

xtruroyaltyx
05-27-2014, 12:04 PM
Texans all access is on 610 right now with Mark Vandemeer and John Harris...

They are about to get into the OTA stuff that happened today..

xtruroyaltyx
05-27-2014, 12:04 PM
Ya think?

They practiced outside.

xtruroyaltyx
05-27-2014, 12:05 PM
Andre wasn't there today.

Vandemeer says that the one word he'd use to describe the practice today is "Intense". Guys were really going at it from a competition standpoint.

John Harris: Was cool to see the rookies and veterans together. Was really fun to watch. Has been around since '07 and can't recall a practice that intense. Was really fun to see the guys going at it and competing hard today.

Sounds like Watt and Cushing weren't full participants...

xtruroyaltyx
05-27-2014, 12:28 PM
Supposedly this new staff isn't as down on Newton as some fans are.

AngryNateFTW
05-27-2014, 12:30 PM
Supposedly this new staff isn't as down on Newton as some fans are.

What fans?

cuppacoffee
05-27-2014, 12:31 PM
In other news, HT.com has updated their roster:


# Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Age Exp. College
65 Ankrah, Jason OLB 6-3 262 R Nebraska
39 Ballentine, Lonnie FS 6-3 219 R Memphis
6 Bester, Lacoltan WR 6-3 208 R Oklahoma
44 Blue, Alfred RB 6-2 223 R LSU
66 Boffeli, Conor G/C 6-4 304 R Iowa
16 Bonner, Alan WR 5-10 191 23 2 Jacksonville State
2 Boswell, Chris K 6-2 185 R Rice
34 Bouye, A.J. CB 6-0 191 22 2 Central Florida
79 Brooks, Brandon G 6-5 335 24 3 Miami (Ohio)
33 Brown, Andre RB 6-0 227 27 6 North Carolina State
71 Brown, Austin NT 6-2 295 R Miami (Ohio)
76 Brown, Duane T 6-4 303 28 7 Virginia Tech
98 Browner, Keith DE 6-4 288 26 2 California
4 Bullock, Randy K 5-9 206 24 3 Texas A&M
53 Bullough, Max ILB 6-3 249 R Michigan State
20 Clemons, Chris SS 6-1 214 28 6 Clemson
90 Clowney, Jadeveon LB 6-5 266 R South Carolina
85 Coyle, Chris TE 6-4 243 R Arizona State
93 Crick, Jared DE 6-4 285 24 3 Nebraska
56 Cushing, Brian ILB 6-3 249 27 6 Southern California
81 Denham, Anthony TE 6-4 235 R Utah
71 Dima, Anthony T 6-6 295 Massachusetts
74 Feiler, Matt T 6-6 330 R Bloomsburg
78 Ferentz, James C 6-2 285 R Iowa
87 Fiedorowicz, C.J. TE 6-5 265 R Iowa
14 Fitzpatrick, Ryan QB 6-2 223 31 10 Harvard
61 Forsch, Kevin G 6-3 307 R Houston
23 Foster, Arian RB 6-1 227 27 5 Tennessee
88 Graham, Garrett TE 6-3 243 27 4 Wisconsin
84 Griffin, Ryan TE 6-6 254 24 2 Connecticut
41 Grimes, Jonathan RB 5-10 209 24 3 William & Mary
69 Grosz, Sullivan DE 6-4 295 R Cal Poly
38 Hal, Andre R 5-10 188 Vanderbilt
26 Harris, Brandon CB 5-10 189 24 4 Miami (Fla.)
51 Hazel, Paul LB 6-5 227 24 2 Western Michigan
10 Hopkins, DeAndre WR 6-1 207 21 2 Clemson
25 Jackson, Kareem DB 5-10 188 26 5 Alabama
96 Jamison, Tim DE 6-3 287 28 6 Michigan
80 Johnson, Andre WR 6-3 230 32 12 Miami (Fla.)
28 Johnson, Dennis RB 5-7 196 2 Arkansas
60 Jones, Ben C 6-3 308 24 3 Georgia
24 Joseph, Johnathan CB 5-11 188 30 9 South Carolina
7 Keenum, Case QB 6-1 205 26 3 Houston
31 Keo, Shiloh S 5-11 208 26 4 Idaho
62 Kupper, Alex G 6-3 299 24 2 Louisville
19 Labhart, Travis WR 5-9 182 R Texas A&M
9 Lechler, Shane P 6-2 237 37 15 Texas A&M
17 Lemon, Alec WR 6-2 207 2 Syracuse
21 Lewis, Kendrick FS 6-0 198 25 5 Mississippi
63 Lloyd, Terrance OLB 6-3 238 R Baylor
43 Mack, Elbert CB 5-10 175 27 6 Troy
82 Martin, Keshawn WR 5-11 194 24 3 Michigan State
94 Mathews, Ricardo DT 6-3 300 26 5 Cincinnati
64 McAllister, Chris OLB 6-2 255 R Baylor
18 McClung, Anthony WR 6-0 177 R Cincinnati
59 Mercilus, Whitney LB 6-4 258 23 3 Illinois
54 Mohamed, Mike LB 6-3 238 26 3 California
55 Myers, Chris C 6-4 286 32 10 Miami (Fla.)
75 Newton, Derek T 6-6 313 26 4 Arkansas State
92 Nix, Louis NT 6-2 331 R Notre Dame
87 Nwachukwu, Uzoma WR 5-11 198 23 2 Texas A&M
42 Opurum, Toben RB 6-1 250 23 2 Kansas
97 Pagan, Jeoffrey DE 6-3 310 R Alabama
35 Pleasant, Eddie SAF 5-10 210 25 2 Oregon
11 Posey, DeVier WR 6-1 210 24 3 Ohio State
86 Potter, Zach TE 6-7 269 28 4 Nebraska
95 Powe, Jerrell NT 6-2 331 27 3 Mississippi
45 Prosch, Jay FB 6-1 256 R Auburn
77 Quessenberry, David OT 6-5 307 23 2 San Jose State
58 Reed, Brooks OLB 6-3 254 27 4 Arizona
91 Sapp, Ricky LB 6-4 252 27 4 Clemson
3 Savage, Tom QB 6-4 228 R Pittsburgh
47 Smelley, Brad FB 6-2 235 25 2 Alabama
29 Starling, Jawanza SAF 6-1 206 22 2 USC
70 Su'a-Filo, Xavier G 6-4 307 R UCLA
36 Swearinger, D.J. SS 5-10 208 22 2 South Carolina
52 Tarpinian, Jeff LB 6-3 240 26 4 Iowa
89 Thomas, Mike WR 5-8 198 26 6 Arizona
57 Tuggle, Justin LB 6-0 247 24 2 Kansas State
27 Victorian, Josh CB 5-10 190 25 2 Louisiana Tech
74 Warmsley, Julius DE 6-2 296 R Tulane
99 Watt, J.J. DE 6-5 289 25 4 Wisconsin
46 Weeks, Jon LS 5-10 246 28 5 Baylor
67 White, Cody G 6-3 303 25 3 Illinois State
73 Williams, Brennan OT 6-6 314 23 2 North Carolina
40 Williams, Marcus CB 5-11 196 R North Dakota State
50 Williams, Trevardo OLB 6-1 237 23 2 Connecticut
72 Witzmann, Bryan T 6-7 311 R South Dakota State
13 Yates, T.J. QB 6-4 217 26 4 North Carolina
61 Young, Chris ILB 6-0 252 R Arizona State
Reserve/Injured
# Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Age Exp. College
71 Martin, Chris T 6-5 305 R UCF


Could they be reserving #8 for a reason? Nah, couldn't be.

Probably just don't want to jinx anybody.

:coffee:

Brandon420tx
05-27-2014, 12:36 PM
I don't want to see a #8 on a Texans Jersey for the remainder of the franchise.

They should retire the number, .... or put it on death row.

kingtexan
05-27-2014, 12:39 PM
They practiced outside.

Guess no one will accuse BoB of being a players coach. Good, we had one of those already ...

msbbc833
05-27-2014, 12:40 PM
Supposedly this new staff isn't as down on Newton as some fans are.

What makes you say that?

xtruroyaltyx
05-27-2014, 12:47 PM
What makes you say that?


That's what I heard on the radio. First this morning...Then Vandy and John Harris mentioned it...

They talked about all the guys who may have looked bad or not as good under Kubiak that might look totally difdrent under OB.

PHILLYTEXANFAN
05-27-2014, 12:54 PM
That's what I heard on the radio. First this morning...Then Vandy and John Harris mentioned it...

They talked about all the guys who may have looked bad or not as good under Kubiak that might look totally difdrent under OB.

Who did they name, and bad or good?

Playoffs
05-27-2014, 02:14 PM
Stephanie Stradley @StephStradley
Most interesting takeaway from #Texans OTAs? How is OB going to prep QBs for season? Equal reps now until need to give starter reps to QB who earns it. Could be in two weeks or into training camp before that's decided.

http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_8065--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720

Dave Zangaro ‏@DZangaro
Brooks Reed said he's been taking reps at ILB so far at OTAs.

Clowney said he's excited to be at OTAs with all the vets. Said Watt is the kind of guy that makes him want to work harder. #Texans

JJ Watt didn't want to talk about differences between Phillips' 3-4 and Crennel's. Said he feels comfortable doing anything on the field.

O'Brien said Arian Foster looks healthy. #Texans

"It's wide open." O'Brien about QB competition. #Texans

O'Brien said Fitzpatrick is doing well learning the offense. Said it's not easy after spending 10 years in other places.

"We'd love to have him here right now but that's up to him." O'Brien about Andre Johnson. Said they're working with guys they have. #Texans

Texans were inside today. O'Brien said he'd like to try to stay outside as much as possible.
Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock

Case still throws one of the best deep balls, outside shoulder ball placement. Not much else >>>>>>>How about other QB's?

Learning. Arm really stands out next to the other 3 RT >>>>>How did Savage look?

Brandon Harris played smart & tight. Great defense on Hopkins Go. Read & rec on 15 yd out to Nuk, Harris jumped route

Got bigger last year, good size. Did note quicker getoff RT>>>>>>>>>>> Has Merciles gotten bigger?

Derek Newton has definitely slimmed down. TE Ryan Griffin has really added bulk.

Potential to be. Raw and needs development MT >>>>>>>does bester look better than posey?

Bester and Brandon Harris RT >>>>>>>who do you think was the most impressive thing from OTA's today

WR Lacoltan Bester continues to impress. It started as a tryout and then he got a contract, now he's looking at home at #Texans OTAs
PDS ‏@PatDStat
Clowney's biggest work will come with his hand game and keeping offensive lineman off of him. Using his long arms to keep space. #Texans

Jadeveon Clowney has a chance to show some pass rush. His first step off the line is unreal. Covers so much ground in step one. #Texans

The #Texans tight end position had a major over haul this offseason. Garrett Graham is the smallest TE at 6-3 and 243 lbs.

Mike Thomas is one to watch at WR for the Texans. Building off his voluntary minicamp and making himself a viable option. #Texans

[Derek Newton has cut some serious weight this offseason. Looks much more fit for the position. Has to produce during camp. #Texans

Considerable difference in what Tom Savage can do with the football velocity wise next to the other 3 QBs.

Brooks Reed acknowledges he will have to put some work into learning the inside. Said the coaches know he can play OLB. #Texans
John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL
O'brien on Crennel "He's been a head coach and its good to be able to bounce things off of him. That's really going to help me."

Bill O'Brien on what impresses him bout Romeo Crennel: "The way he communicates, what he teaches, he listens, his experience, his demeanor."
AdamWexlerCSN ‏@awexler
Also said chemistry in the QB room is good.

"OTAs are for setting tone as far as our practice tempo & our systems (off, def, sp tm). We've gotten a lot accomplished."- O'Brien #Texans

AngryNateFTW
05-27-2014, 02:27 PM
@JaysonBraddock

#Texans TE Ryan Griffin has really added bulk. Here's Griffin, and Garrett Graham.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoqVp_VIcAAeqnW.jpg

AngryNateFTW
05-27-2014, 02:40 PM
@PatDStat

Mike Thomas is one to watch at WR for the Texans. Building off his voluntary minicamp and making himself a viable option. #Texans

The #Texans tight end position had a major over haul this offseason. Garrett Graham is the smallest TE at 6-3 and 243 lbs.

Jadeveon Clowney has a chance to show some pass rush. His first step off the line is unreal. Covers so much ground in step one. #Texans

Clowney's biggest work will come with his hand game and keeping offensive lineman off of him. Using his long arms to keep space. #Texans

AngryNateFTW
05-27-2014, 03:00 PM
@VicTafur

Matt Schaub was adequate in his first practice, did have a pick-6 returned by Justin Tuck late in practice #Raiders

...:D

Honoring Earl 34
05-27-2014, 03:02 PM
@VicTafur



...:D

Schaub tried to catch Tuck but Tuck pulled away easily .

Playoffs
05-27-2014, 03:08 PM
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--houstontexans.com

Playoffs
05-27-2014, 03:08 PM
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--houstontexans.com

ObsiWan
05-27-2014, 04:06 PM
Could they be reserving #8 for a reason? Nah, couldn't be.

Probably just don't want to jinx anybody.

:coffee:

No. 8 has been very quietly "retired" by Bob McNair. He knows if the fan base ever sees that number out on the field again they will torch the stadium.

http://images.rapgenius.com/da7e807e855ef73724dcc86dc7264650.400x240x15.gif

Texans_Chick
05-27-2014, 04:14 PM
No. 8 has been very quietly "retired" by Bob McNair. He knows if the fan base ever sees that number out on the field again they will torch the stadium.

http://images.rapgenius.com/da7e807e855ef73724dcc86dc7264650.400x240x15.gif

There was a tryout safety that had 8 during rookie minicamp. Was weird. :kitten:

Here's more on that QB rep thing. Quick blog post:

Bill O’Brien on how to prepare the Texans starting QB … whoever he is (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/05/bill-obrien-prepare-starting-qb/)

Because we were in the bubble, was hard to see some of the stuff. O'Brien doesn't like to do indoors, but did because he didn't want lots of slipping, some possible lightning in the area. Not sure we will be outside at all this week, which sucks because we are often limited in what we can see in the bubble because of restrictions on where we can stand.

Texans_Chick
05-27-2014, 04:19 PM
Oh, and I will check back in a little bit to answer any questions.

Playoffs
05-27-2014, 04:20 PM
Here's more on that QB rep thing. Quick blog post:

Bill O’Brien on how to prepare the Texans starting QB … whoever he is (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/05/bill-obrien-prepare-starting-qb/)
Steph got a gold http://www.factor-software.com/images/bytten_stargold.jpg star today from OB for the above.


JJ Watt speaks post OTA: http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/Extended-Cut-Watt-on-Clowney/ccc968d3-a071-4230-a6ec-918ca140a505

We are moving fast. I can't wait to put the pads on... that's like Christmas Day to me.

JD post OTA interview: http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/EC_Clowney_on_joining_veterans/a4704f4a-0099-41b0-84ff-c97a58ad44ed

I'm just glad to be beside him. (JJ Watt)

How much has he (Watt) pulled you aside? All the time, sometimes make me go and do extra workout with him.

Do you ever say "No" to him? No, I say I got ya, what you want me to do?

Playoffs
05-27-2014, 07:34 PM
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OB's transcript from today (docx download):

http://media.houstontexans.com/article_download.cfm?article_id=1782

Texans_Chick
05-27-2014, 08:25 PM
Transcript: (I asked QB rep/ injury philosophy qs)

Head Coach Bill O’Brien
(on his thoughts on the first day of OTAs) “It’s exciting. It was an exciting day, a lot of good competition. Guys are really working hard. Not everything is perfect. They are still getting used to our practice tempo and things like that, but I thought the guys really competed hard and were being good teammates, were coachable, which is all you can ask for.”

(on the advantages and disadvantages of practicing inside due to the weather) “Yeah, I really want to stay outside. But in the offseason, and I talked about this this morning, you only have 13 opportunities. You have 10 and three with the mandatory one the third week of June. I don’t really want to miss any of those opportunities because we’re slipping out there and things like that. Obviously, there was also lightning in the distance I guess so we decided to come inside. Ideally, we would like to be outside. I thought it went pretty well for being inside.”

(on if teaching is what OTAs are for as a first-year head coach) “Yeah, I think that OTAs are for a few things. I think that as a staff, we can set the tone as far as our philosophy, as far as our practice tempo and then obviously to teach systems offensively, defensively and on special teams. I really believe that our guys are getting a lot out of that and we’ve been together now for seven weeks. We started April 7 and then had one week off in there but basically seven weeks, and we’ve gotten a lot accomplished. Everything is kind of ramping up towards training camp. We’ll get a little bit of a break between OTAs and training camp, but I think it’s about philosophy, teaching them our program football-wise the way we do things, our practice tempo and then obviously the systems offensively, defensively and on special teams.”

(on the importance of tempo) “I think it’s really important because a game is played at such a fast pace. The game is really played at a fast pace. I’m not talking about running a lot of plays. I’m talking about the pace of the game. In the National Football League, there are 70-75 plays per game and the games are run efficiently and they go fast. We’ve got to be ready for that tempo. You can’t get that exact tempo in a practice. You try to. I think there are a lot of things that you can do to ramp up the intensity in practice and we try to do those things and the guys have really fallen in line and done a good job with that.”

(on his philosophy on player injuries) “My main philosophy on that is I really don’t want to talk about the injury until I know what it is. A lot of times when I come off the field, people will ask me about the injury but I haven’t even spoken to Kap (head athletic trainer Geoff Kaplan) or anybody about that injury. As we move forward, I’ll follow the rules of the National Football League and when the injury reports are supposed to come out, I’ll put them out. I think the thing about injuries, to me, it’s very personal to that player. To come in here and just start right away talking about injuries, without knowing too much about it, is probably the wrong thing to do as it relates to the players. I always try to do what’s best for the player.”

(on if his time at Penn State influence the way he used tempo in practice and in games) “I would say that our view of tempo has involved, especially those of us who were in New England. We were a huddle team in New England. We were always a huddle team in New England, but the last few years I was there, we incorporated more no-huddle and different tempos of no-huddle. When I left there and went to Penn State, I found that the tempo that we ran at Penn State, the kids loved it. It wasn’t that difficult to teach. Now, obviously in the National Football League, it’s a lot more expansive than college football. We’ll continue to change our tempo. We believe in doing that and I think it helps our defense too. It helps their communication and right now we’re not playing as fast as we’re going to play, but we’re going to continue to try and get better and better.”

(on if the rookies who spent last year on IR are like rookies again or if they have a little bit of an advantage having been here one season) “I think you’d have to ask them that and how they feel about that. I know that all these players, everyone on the team, whether they were second-year last year or first-year last year and going into their second year, or maybe they’re going into their 10th year, it’s new just because the systems are new. The way we do things are new. In that regard, everybody is new. The coaches are trying to get to know the players. The players are learning the systems. Like I said, we’ve been together for seven weeks. It’s gone pretty well to this point. I wouldn’t separate out who is new and who is not new. I think everybody is kind of new to each other and trying to get on the same page.”

(on if it holds the offense back not having Andre Johnson at OTAs) “Again like I said last week, I’ll let Andre speak for himself. I said last week that he and I have had positive conversations. I have a ton of respect for him. We’d love to him here right now, but that’s up to him. Again, we’re moving forward with the players that are here. These guys that are here are working extremely hard.”

(on how the rookies and veterans have retained what they’ve been taught thus far) “I think there is a definite separation. The rookies, it’s hard, because you’re going form college football to pro football and that’s a big jump, especially as far as systems go and learning X’s and O’s and the details of each play. That’s a different deal. As far as the veterans are concerned, I’ve been very pleased with the way that they’ve studied on their own and come back from one week to the next and you can tell over the weekend that they have studied and come back and been ready to go with the material that we had been teaching them. Then we can put new things in and I’ve been pleased with the veterans.”

(on what impresses him about Romeo Crennel) “His demeanor. His knowledge of the game. His ability to talk to his players and talk to his fellow coaches, his ability to communicate. His ability to listen. Personally, it’s been great to have him here because he’s been a head coach. He’s sat in the seat that I’m sitting in. That’s always good, in my opinion, to have a guy on the staff that has been there and gone through some things and you can’t bounce ideas off of him. It would be hard to bounce off somebody that hasn’t been in that situation. He’s a really bright guy and I’ve been able to get to know him over the last six months and I’ve really enjoyed coaching with him.”

(on how Ryan Fitzpatrick is learning the offense) “He’s doing a good job. I tell you, they’re all doing a good job. It’s not easy to learn a new offense, especially when you’ve been around awhile. When you’ve been around 10 years and you’ve been in systems at Buffalo and Tennessee and St. Louis and so on and so forth. So you’ve had to re-tool the way that you learn, and then including the guys that have been here T.J. (Yates) and Case (Keenum), those two guys have put a lot of time in. I’ve seen a lot of improvement every day with that whole group.”

(on how he makes sure to give the eventual starting quarterback enough reps to succeed during the season without having an incumbent quarterback on the roster) “I think initially, in this part of the year, you have to make sure that the reps are equal and you’ve also got to make sure that each guy gets a chance to rep with the starters or the guys that are running with the first team. I think that’s important, too. So we try to do that. We try to make sure that we have equal reps and that at some point, whether it’s two weeks from now, three weeks from now, two months from now when we get to training camp, we’ll make a determination on who gets the most reps to get them ready for the game. But we’re not there right now. We’ve got to continue to give these guys an equal amount of reps and give them a shot.”

(on if the quarterback competition is wide open right now) “Yeah, it’s wide open. These guys are good guys. They’ve been fun to coach. George Godsey has done a great job with them. I think they’ve enjoyed learning this offense and they’re competing. It looks like there’s good chemistry in the room, which is important the quarterback room. I’ve been impressed with these guys, the way they work at it. The positions on this team to me, that’s what the NFL is about. You’ve got to compete every day and you have to try to get better every single day no matter really what position you play because there is always somebody there to take your position. That’s the nature of the league. That’s the competitiveness of the league, so it doesn’t change from position to position.”

(on if Ryan Fitzpatrick has a lot on his plate trying to teach the younger players behind him while also learning the offense) “I don’t think he’s at the teaching stage yet. I think he’s learning it. But you know those Harvard guys. I’m a Brown guy, so. He’s doing a good job and he does do a good job, seriously, with Tom (Savage). I’d say Case (Keenum) and T.J. (Yates) do also, just kind of talking to Tom in the background and I think that’s going well. But I think they’re all learning. Their main job is to learn from day-to-day what we’re doing.”

(on the interaction between the rookies and veterans at OTAs and if the rookies are acting different with the veterans out there) “I’m sure for the rookies today there was a little bit of nervousness, no questions about it. You’re on the same field now in a practice-type setting with the veterans. We eased them into that process last week with involving them in the coaching sessions. We kept them separate as far as lifting weights went but we incorporated them into the coaching sessions and I think that’s gone well, kind of easing them into where they are now, where we’re all together. But again, you’d have to ask the rookies. I could sense there was a little bit of nervousness, excitement that they were out there with these guys. A lot of these guys have played a lot of football. To me, for us as coaches, it’s a very exciting time of the year because you get to see everybody out there together and running the different things that we’re going to ask them to run. It’s an exciting time of the year.”

(on how comfortable he is with Arian Foster) “He came in today and looked like he was in good health. I’m comfortable with where he’s at.”

(on if Arian Foster is able to do everything on the field needed of him and if his back is fine) “Yeah.”

(on how the transition from college to pro football has gone for Jadeveon Clowney) “I think for any rookie, it’s very difficult to make the jump from college to the pros. At this point in time, for all these guys, they’re all kind of in the same boat. It doesn’t really matter whether they were drafted number one or they were undrafted. They’re all in the same boat of trying to learn, keep up with the pace of the veterans and for JD, he’s learning a little bit of a new position right now. We’ll incorporate him back into some of the things he did in college but right now we’re teaching the 3-4 and he’s having to learn a whole new position. I think he’s doing a decent job. He’s working hard at it and that’s just what he needs to keep doing.”

(on how fluid positions like outside linebacker is and the changes some of the players will have to make) “I think every position, with the exception of quarterback, punter, place kicker, long snapper are fluid. They have to be able to play multiple roles. This is way in the future here, but when you can only have 46 guys on a game day roster, the phrase ‘The more you can do,’ is a really important phrase. A lot of these guys, no matter what position they play, they’re going to do multiple things. They’re going to be maybe the third corner and they’re going to be on all four special teams. Maybe they’re going to play outside linebacker to start but they’re backup inside linebacker also and then they’re going to be on all special teams. Everybody’s a part of a fluid situation at the position because we’re asking guys to learn multiple roles.”

(on how hard it is to weigh picking up talented players off waivers and teaching them his system versus having players who have already spent time at OTAs and mini-camps learning his system) “I think any decision that’s made, whether it’s along that line of thinking or in the draft, or free agency, or play-calling or play design, it’s always made in the best interest of the team. What is the best thing for the football team? What’s the best thing that puts us in the best position to win? When we can answer those questions, we try to make those decisions based on the answers to those questions. That’s way down the road but anything we do here decision-wise, will always be in the best interest of the team in our minds.”

(on when he hopes to see Brian Cushing out on the field) “Brian’s doing well. He’s working hard and I’m not sure. I’m not a doctor. I don’t know when he’ll be back. I’ve gotten to know Brian and he’s a hard-working guy and an important part of this football team and eventually he’ll be back for us.”

(on if it’s the same thing with Johnathan Joseph) “Yeah. Those guys will be back, I can tell you that. They’ll be back.”

ObsiWan
05-27-2014, 11:04 PM
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So how come he gets a name tag?
I thought there were only numbers, no names...??
:)

yeah, I know the HT.com roster shows two #87s but #83 is free, why didn't one of these guys take that available number? ...especially since one of them is a rookie.

The Pencil Neck
05-27-2014, 11:22 PM
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So how come he gets a name tag?
I thought there were only numbers, no names...??
:)

yeah, I know the HT.com roster shows two #87s but #83 is free, why didn't one of these guys take that available number? ...especially since one of them is a rookie.

There are no names on the JERSEYS. All the helmets have the names written on tape and put on the front of the helmet.

ObsiWan
05-27-2014, 11:29 PM
There are no names on the JERSEYS. All the helmets have the names written on tape and put on the front of the helmet.
really?

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Doesn't look to be consistent. I went back thru the photos and some helmets do have the name/tape thing. Others, like those above, well it's hard for me to tell...

thunderkyss
05-27-2014, 11:59 PM
yeah, I know the HT.com roster shows two #87s but #83 is free, why didn't one of these guys take that available number? ...especially since one of them is a rookie.

I believe #8 & #83 are forbidden. Anyone asking to where either number is drug tested, then escorted off the premises.


:stirpot:

BorrowMe
05-28-2014, 12:58 AM
Only the rookies have names taped on their helmets

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ObsiWan
05-28-2014, 06:44 AM
Only the rookies have names taped on their helmets

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That explains it.

thitch
05-28-2014, 08:17 AM
Oh, and I will check back in a little bit to answer any questions.

Can you post some QB stats, number of completions, interceptions, etc. for each of the qb's so far in OTAs?

infantrycak
05-28-2014, 08:29 AM
Can you post some QB stats, number of completions, interceptions, etc. for each of the qb's so far in OTAs?

Homework assignments? - for practice? - we're talking practice, not a game.

The Texans don't want that kind of detail reported. TC could lose her pass.

thitch
05-28-2014, 08:33 AM
Wasn't sure if she could answer those questions, but thought I'd ask since she volunteered to answer questions.

I heard that the first pass attempt was swatted down by Watt and was curious what quarterback threw it. Also heard that Fitzpatrick threw a pick six, but no real info on anyone else.

76Texan
05-28-2014, 08:42 AM
Wasn't sure if she could answer those questions, but thought I'd ask since she volunteered to answer questions.

I heard that the first pass attempt was swatted down by Watt and was curious what quarterback threw it. Also heard that Fitzpatrick threw a pick six, but no real info on anyone else.

Sometimes what Watt does is independent of the QB.
When he beat pass protection so badly, the QB has no time to pull the ball back.

ObsiWan
05-28-2014, 08:50 AM
Wasn't sure if she could answer those questions, but thought I'd ask since she volunteered to answer questions.

I heard that the first pass attempt was swatted down by Watt and was curious what quarterback threw it. Also heard that Fitzpatrick threw a pick six, but no real info on anyone else.

It's kinda too early to stress.
Keep in mind that they're still in shorts.

DBCooper
05-28-2014, 09:12 AM
It's kinda too early to stress.
Keep in mind that they're still in shorts.

No kidding.

How can Steph even concentrate!

Playoffs
05-28-2014, 09:16 AM
I heard that the first pass attempt was swatted down by Watt and was curious what quarterback threw it...
Fitzmagic.

NCTexan
05-28-2014, 09:29 AM
Homework assignments? - for practice? - we're talking practice, not a game.

"We're talking about practice. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we're talking about practice. Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game like it's my last but we're talking about practice man."

michaelm
05-28-2014, 10:10 AM
"We're talking about practice. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we're talking about practice. Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game like it's my last but we're talking about practice man."

Some things never get old.







This isn't one of them. :kitten:

Playoffs
05-28-2014, 11:05 AM
OTA Day 1 Observations
John Harris (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/OTA-Day-1-Observations/05ea5aea-bc13-4453-9ff7-125b0bb2ba19)
[JD's] athleticism pops but his ability to change direction is off the charts. He does need to learn a few pet pass-rush moves but with no contact allowed until training camp, he’ll have to be a quick study in late July/early August.

After seeing him drop, rush and play the run, he should be one of defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel’s key chess pieces this season.
I’ve been here since 2007 and I’ve not seen a back with [RB Alfred] Blue’s burst to-and-through the hole... If he stays healthy, he could truly add a different wrinkle to the backfield this season.
[WR Alan] Bonner looks as healthy as ever and caught my attention... He’s so explosive running his routes and caught nearly everything. As such, it’s evident that he makes defensive backs uncomfortable with his route running.

Taking advantage of the expected emphasis on utilizing a true slot receiver, Bonner might be of more value to this staff than the previous one.
This group brought a ton of energy to the ballyard, fed off the music and competed intensely all morning long. The coaches did too, which I’ve always said is a good sign. I’ve often said show me a team that finds a way to compete in every single thing it does and I’ll show you a team that hates to lose. I’ll take that team 100% of the time. What makes it more impressive is that a football team typically needs to pop the pads to get going, but O’Brien’s crew was juiced without one physical hit.

HOU-TEX
05-28-2014, 11:13 AM
Ballyard? Mmkay

ObsiWan
05-28-2014, 11:41 AM
I’ve been here since 2007 and I’ve not seen a back with [RB Alfred] Blue’s burst to-and-through the hole... If he stays healthy, he could truly add a different wrinkle to the backfield this season.

Man, I'm likin' the sound of this. Sounds like our 1-2 RB punch could be back and better than ever.
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy023.gif

Scooter
05-28-2014, 11:46 AM
not to be a downer (but i'll be a downer obviously), but there seem to be a lot of "i've been here since X and havent seen Y before" this offseason. it's kind of hard to take these guys seriously when talking about rookies in shorts at positions where we have all-pros.

Playoffs
05-28-2014, 12:30 PM
1st Look Video: QB Drills on Wednesday: http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/1st-Look-QB-Drills-on-Wednesday/00c9713c-559b-4cea-8a8a-55fa077ff7f7

(tweets read bottom(oldest)-to-top)
Deepi Sidhu ‏@DeepSlant
Can't tweet about #Texans practice yet but O'Brien's iPod practice playlist today included Police, Nirvana, Sean Paul, and Whitesnake. #OBPlaylist #Retro.
AdamWexlerCSN ‏@awexler
"He's an animal. Always hounding me on what I eat. Works out twice a day. An animal." #Texans DT Jerrell Powe on 1st impressions of JJ Watt
Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock
David Quessenberry has added muscle, asked about being in NFL weight room for a year. "I've gotten bigger & stronger"

3 veteran QBs showed that they have to throw outs with anticipation like Schaub lacked [velocity] last year or more pick 6s OTW. Savage outs = no issue

Arian looks a mile ahead of where he was a month ago, also caught 2 passes at almost the same time when QBs made mistake & 2 threw at him

Keenum w 2 more great "go" throws. 1 barely misses Martin who was blanketed by Dre Hal. Other goes thru Hopkins hands who had step on Harris

Jawanza Starling w/ a great break from the safety position to almost pick a pass for Ryan Griffin. Griffin concentrates & makes grab #Texans

#Texans went back to same route / matchup and the rookie Williams recognized & broke on it for a would be pick 6 if he held on to it.

Case threw a great hitch route to Lacoltan Bester on Marcus Williams. Ball on top of Bester coming out of his break. #Texans

Dennis Johnson is so quick out RB routes and fits the NE Woodhead role IMO. #Texans

Travis Labhart had a few nice routes and hand catches in 1/2 field drills. #Texans

In 1/2 field reps, AJ Bouye continued to flash his break on the ball potential. #Texans

Brooks Reed picked up Foster well on and out from the backfield. #Texans

Mike Thomas continues to add to his personal value for the #Texans

3 of the first 4 passes that #Texans QBs threw in drill were batted down at the line. 2 from Yates & 1 from Fitz. Watt / Crick / Nix w/ PBUs
Drew Dougherty ‏@DoughertyDrew
OL Xavier Su'a-Filo missing OTA's bc of going to school at UCLA. But O'Brien knows he'll be able to catch up. #Texans

O'Brien: RT Derek Newton had a good offseason, worked hard. But too early to make a final judgement. #Texans

"He's working. He comes in early. He stays late."- O'Brien on #Texans QB Tom Savage. Said all QB's doing that too.

O'Brien: Fitzpatrick/Keenum/Yates obviously ahead of Savage right now, knowledge-wise. #Texans

O'Brien: Leadership, work ethic, accuracy, knowledge of the offense amongst, getting better each day, being good teammate/coachable traits needed in a QB. #Texans
Deepi Sidhu @DeepSlant
O'Brien says DeAndre Hopkins is a hard worker and takes coaching well. Is a tough player and has learned 2 new systems in 2 yrs. #Texans
Brian T. Smith @ChronBrianSmith
Tom Savage: "I haven't seen Houston yet." #Texans

Fitzpatrick said O'Brien's offense is definitely complex. Requires smart players who can quickly adapt and read defenses. #NFL #Texans

Several #Texans said biggest changes in O'Brien's offense are more autonomy and understanding play can change on a dime. Multiple, variable.

O'Brien had a one-word answer about #Texans riding Segways: "No." #NFL

#Texans' O'Brien joked he's not ready to send Alfred Blue to the Pro Bowl yet but the RB has definitely impressed early on. #NFL

#Texans using iPads to study new offense/defense during weekend, O'Brien said. #NFL

#Texans' O'Brien describes his offense as "multiple" with various reads, in-play adaptation. "There's a lot of thinking early on." #NFL

"Good offseason" for Derek Newton, O'Brien said. #Texans

Tom Savage gets a "Tommy" Savage nod from BO'B. #NFL #Texans

#Texans' O'Brien said he's "not sure" of Brennan Williams' health status. #NFL

Did O'Brien talk to #Texans about Andre Johnson? To reporter: "I'll never tell you what I talk to the team about, with all due respect. That's between us." #NFL

#Texans were a "little better" today, O'Brien said. #NFL

#Texans' Bill O'Brien said having wide-open QB competition is "best thing for this football team." #NFL
PDS ‏@PatDStat
O'Brien points out his entire staff helps out with special teams. #Texans
James Palmer @JPalmerCSN
O’Brien says all coaches work with special teams and move around. What makes them a good staff.

O’Brien said he’s aware of the heat in Houston. Meets with head trainer and S&C coach. those 3 also pick the brain of Rick Smith on heat.

O’Brien said teaching in the NFL is much quicker. a week to install a few runs in CFB and a few runs installed in a day in NFL.

O’Brien loves to hear his other coaches teach and work with players as he moves to different position groups.

drs23
05-28-2014, 12:40 PM
not to be a downer (but i'll be a downer obviously), but there seem to be a lot of "i've been here since X and havent seen Y before" this offseason. it's kind of hard to take these guys seriously when talking about rookies in shorts at positions where we have all-pros.

Agreed to a point. At the same time these all-pros were "rookies in shorts" at one time. Gotta start somewhere.

False Start
05-28-2014, 12:44 PM
Maybe its just me, but I'm digging the jerseys with the plain numbers on them, with out the outline around them. They have more of a classic look. :cool:

Playoffs
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Playoffs
05-28-2014, 01:48 PM
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Playoffs
05-28-2014, 01:49 PM
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eriadoc
05-28-2014, 01:57 PM
not to be a downer (but i'll be a downer obviously), but there seem to be a lot of "i've been here since X and havent seen Y before" this offseason. it's kind of hard to take these guys seriously when talking about rookies in shorts at positions where we have all-pros.

Not to disagree with your overriding sentiment, but RB is the most common position for a rookie to make an immediate impact. Blue's not going to be the main guy, but could be a real steal as a backup to Foster. I definitely think he'll be better than Ward, Forsett, Dennis Johnson, Cierre Wood, etc. If the Texans run the ball as much as we all suspect they will, he could very well put up a season comparable to Ben Tate's couple good seasons.

Honoring Earl 34
05-28-2014, 02:00 PM
Not to disagree with your overriding sentiment, but RB is the most common position for a rookie to make an immediate impact. Blue's not going to be the main guy, but could be a real steal as a backup to Foster. I definitely think he'll be better than Ward, Forsett, Dennis Johnson, Cierre Wood, etc. If the Texans run the ball as much as we all suspect they will, he could very well put up a season comparable to Ben Tate's couple good seasons.

I think a rookie RBs biggest thing is pass protection and ball security .

Porky
05-28-2014, 02:02 PM
I just want to know if OB calls his guys kids, and if he turns away when FG's are kicked because he is too scared to look. :kitten:

DX-TEX
05-28-2014, 02:36 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BovlOeLIUAAp3wP.jpg:large

:wadepalm:

silvrhand
05-28-2014, 02:46 PM
OTA Day 1 Observations
John Harris (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/OTA-Day-1-Observations/05ea5aea-bc13-4453-9ff7-125b0bb2ba19)

Love the intensity part.. I don't care what you do wrong play fast, play hard, and bring the pain, you'll be competitive in the NFL.

So tired of the past Texans that didn't have that intensity and passion.. OBrien so far seems to be the real deal.

- John

AngryNateFTW
05-28-2014, 02:53 PM
Not really a part of OTA's but..

#Texans worked out former OSU QB Kenny Guiton Wed. He thinks it went really well, but prob no move soon. Texans have worked him 3 diff x's

AngryNateFTW
05-28-2014, 03:11 PM
@PatDStat

The quarterback situation in Houston is taking shape quicker than most realize. #Texans

MistaRed
05-28-2014, 03:28 PM
Just my opinion, but I think Savage starts sooner than people think. Wouldn't be surprised if he was the starter week 1.

IDEXAN
05-28-2014, 03:29 PM
Just my opinion, but I think Savage starts sooner than people think. Wouldn't be surprised if he was the starter week 1.

In 2015 ?

MistaRed
05-28-2014, 03:43 PM
In 2015 ?

Nope.

LikeMike
05-28-2014, 03:54 PM
Nope.

I wouldn`t either. I think Savage will start sometime this season. I wouldn`t say opening day, because I think they want to go "smart" and let him sit and learn behind a veteran first. But I think Savage will be a very fast learner and I definetly think they want to see what they have in him before the 2015 draft.

The Pencil Neck
05-28-2014, 04:03 PM
I think the goal is to have Savage starting at some point this season. I think they want him to start day 1 but I'm not sure if he's going to be ready. But I think that's what they're working toward and have been since they signed Fitzpatrick.

infantrycak
05-28-2014, 05:50 PM
I think the goal is to have Savage starting at some point this season. I think they want him to start day 1 but I'm not sure if he's going to be ready. But I think that's what they're working toward and have been since they signed Fitzpatrick.

Fitzgerald = Banks, a vet for the rookie (or near rookie) to "beat out" after doing so "unexpectedly" well in TC they just can't hold him back.

EllisUnit
05-28-2014, 05:55 PM
Fitzgerald = Banks, a vet for the rookie (or near rookie) to "beat out" after doing so "unexpectedly" well in TC they just can't hold him back.

Nothing like a good old premeditated confidence booster !

Double Barrel
05-28-2014, 06:02 PM
I like Clowney's attitude about working harder with JJ Watt as his mentor. Pretty much what I thought would happen in spite of all the so-called 'experts'.

Honoring Earl 34
05-28-2014, 06:17 PM
I like Clowney's attitude about working harder with JJ Watt as his mentor. Pretty much what I thought would happen in spite of all the so-called 'experts'.

The anti Dez Bryant .

xtruroyaltyx
05-28-2014, 06:24 PM
I'm more excited about this season than I was heading into last season. I didn't expect 2-14 but I did not expect that team to sniff any superbowls.

This team, I think is going to be one I can be proud of. Enjoy watching them grow. Even if they make mistakes along the way

ObsiWan
05-28-2014, 06:39 PM
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140527_texans_otas_btc_11.jpg
Man... I wish they'd let me play too
:(

EllisUnit
05-28-2014, 06:41 PM
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Man... I wish they'd let me play too
:(

I have no doubt he will, no need for him to risk anything in OTAs, let him heal a little longer. It wont hurt.

ObsiWan
05-28-2014, 06:51 PM
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140527_texans_otas_btc_16.jpg

Hey now, I'm gonna need you french horns to come in a little stronger than that... can barely hear you over the strings
da-da da daaa-daaaa
da-da da daaa-daaaa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGU1P6lBW6Q&feature=kp)
...like that

ObsiWan
05-28-2014, 06:58 PM
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Houston Texans safety D.J. Swearinger (36) leads the way as safety Kendrick Lewis (21) returns an interception during Texans' organized team activities at the Methodist Training Center Wednesday, May 28, 2014, in Houston.

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Houston Texans linebacker Jadeveon Clowney, left, returns an interception, followed by safety Shiloh Keo (31), during Texans' organized team activities at the Methodist Training Center Wednesday, May 28, 2014, in Houston. ( Brett Coomer / Houston Chronicle )

ObsiWan
05-28-2014, 07:01 PM
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Houston Texans safety Kendrick Lewis (21) leaps to intercept a pass during Texans' organized team activities at the Methodist Training Center Wednesday, May 28, 2014, in Houston. ( Brett Coomer / Houston Chronicle )

Playoffs
05-28-2014, 07:09 PM
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BowqkOKCYAALRy5.jpg:large

Cool "Shootout at the O.K. Corral" kinda pick.

Savage doesn't very small next to Watt.


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You don't not want to &^@% with D. Brown,

You risk an orbital fracture (http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/files/2011/10/this_is_what_james_harrison_looks_like_right_now-450x600.jpg) if you choose to.


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RAC doing what he does.

CloakNNNdagger
05-28-2014, 07:18 PM
I have no doubt he will, no need for him to risk anything in OTAs, let him heal a little longer. It wont hurt.

Call me guarded, but as I've said before, his injury was described as an uncomplicated fibula fracture and LCL tear. If the injuries are as described, uncomplicated healing and return to full sports activity would be expected to be no longer than 3 months. There would be NO reason to be concerned/cautious about returning to football and full contact at 7+ months following the described injuries......no more than you would at 1 year. Something does not fit this picture.

thunderkyss
05-28-2014, 10:41 PM
I like Clowney's attitude about working harder with JJ Watt as his mentor. Pretty much what I thought would happen in spite of all the so-called 'experts'.

I think he's saying the "right things" because he knows the spot light is on him & he knows that stupd "work ethic" thing is hanging around his neck.

I never doubted his work ethic & the Texans wouldn't have drafted him if they thought there was any truth to any of it. & they've got people on this staff that would have known if there were.

Guys don't usually have negative body fat numbers if they have work ethic or motivational issues. & Clowney handled all the criticism like a champ imo. Very Texans worthy.

DocBar
05-28-2014, 10:46 PM
So has CK earned a SB ring in OTA's yet?

thunderkyss
05-28-2014, 10:49 PM
So has CK earned a SB ring in OTA's yet?

http://memecrunch.com/meme/TDEI/the-hate-is-strong-with-this-one/image.png

EllisUnit
05-28-2014, 10:51 PM
Call me guarded, but as I've said before, his injury was described as an uncomplicated fibula fracture and LCL tear. If the injuries are as described, uncomplicated healing and return to full sports activity would be expected to be no longer than 3 months. There would be NO reason to be concerned/cautious about returning to football and full contact at 7+ months following the described injuries......no more than you would at 1 year. Something does not fit this picture.

I'm no doc, doc, although as a kid i did like doogie Howser. I was just throwing out my half ass assumption based on my half ass opinion ;)

DocBar
05-28-2014, 10:52 PM
http://memecrunch.com/meme/TDEI/the-hate-is-strong-with-this-one/image.pngLOL

I'm pulling for CK. I just get a kick out of the love him or hate him crowd.

Nothing would make me happier than CK leading the Texans to multiple championships.

EDIT: Props for creativity. I would expect this from Obi, but not you. Good job, mate.

DocBar
05-28-2014, 10:54 PM
I'm no doc, doc, although as a kid i did like doogie Howser. I was just throwing out my half ass assumption based on my half ass opinion ;)You couldn't even pull off a stay at a Holiday Inn Express?? Neg rep your way, loser.
:kitten:

EllisUnit
05-28-2014, 10:57 PM
You couldn't even pull off a stay at a Holiday Inn Express?? Neg rep your way, loser.
:kitten:

i smell :cheese:

Always wanted to find a reason to use that, positive rep your way for allowing me to !

Nevermind MSR, damn i cant do anything right add that to my list of life accomplishments ;)

DocBar
05-28-2014, 10:58 PM
i smell :cheese:

Always wanted to find a reason to use that, positive rep your way for allowing me to !You're a fart smeller...I mean smart feller......:chili:

TEXANRED
05-28-2014, 11:52 PM
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140527_texans_otas_btc_16.jpg


THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR IS TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL!

or

Excuse me miss but is the gym........................this way?

BigBull17
05-29-2014, 08:33 AM
I think the goal is to have Savage starting at some point this season. I think they want him to start day 1 but I'm not sure if he's going to be ready. But I think that's what they're working toward and have been since they signed Fitzpatrick.

I don't think they'll hesitate if he beats out Fitz, but I don't think they'll hand him the job if he doesn't. No rush on him, IMO.

xtruroyaltyx
05-29-2014, 08:51 AM
So OB has banned segways...and rides on the golf cart for guys...

Vandemeer said that it was kind of getting ridiculous with all the guys on segways...Said sometimes it was a hassle getting through the hallways with guys zooming past on them...He also said you'd walk past a meeting room and there'd be several of them parked outside the rooms cluttering the halls...

xtruroyaltyx
05-29-2014, 08:58 AM
Vandy says that watching Clowney run around is impressive...

Says he's about as fast as the DB's but he's like this big avatar type creature....Says that he's much more athletically versatile than Mario was...

EllisUnit
05-29-2014, 08:59 AM
So OB has banned segways...and rides on the golf cart for guys...

Vandemeer said that it was kind of getting ridiculous with all the guys on segways...Said sometimes it was a hassle getting through the hallways with guys zooming past on them...He also said you'd walk past a meeting room and there'd be several of them parked outside the rooms cluttering the halls...

At the pace of societies laziness the combine numbers for college in 40 years will look at lot different.

"Wow john that boy was really moving, his official 40 time was 15.3. We knew he was first round talent but lord i didnt know he was that fast.

Texans_Chick
05-29-2014, 09:03 AM
About to go back out to OTAs.

I'm trying to collect Q&As about OTA stuff in one place. I answer stuff at Twitter, FB, here, blog etc, but I want a one stop shop that is good for me and y'all.

After I get enough questions, I will embed this on the blog.

A lot of stuff I see online about OTAs so far I go, "Nah, I don't see it like that at all, and here's why." So if you have questions about anything, normal or random or weird or whatever, please join in.

Sign in is easy, particularly if you have a FB or Twitter account:

http://www.replyall.me/stephanie-stradleys-cast/ask-me-anything-about-texans-otas/#9302

Because of the way that they schedule media stuff, I'll will be out there for most of the day, but will check back later. The questions won't show up right away--I have to review and approve them, and then add my answers.

As an aside, I would like to thank all the people who read and respond to my stuff. It is the primary reason why I can be eye/ears at offseason things.

IDEXAN
05-29-2014, 09:05 AM
I think the goal is to have Savage starting at some point this season. I think they want him to start day 1 but I'm not sure if he's going to be ready. But I think that's what they're working toward and have been since they signed Fitzpatrick.
If they thought that highly of Savage, thought he was a QB to lead this franchise in games as early as the upcoming season, why on earth would they wait until virtually the 5th round to draft him ? Makes no sense to assign such a low priority in the Draft to a player that would be considered the guy to play far and away the most important position on the whole team ?

Playoffs
05-29-2014, 09:15 AM
So OB has banned segways...and rides on the golf cart for guys...

Vandemeer said that it was kind of getting ridiculous with all the guys on segways...Said sometimes it was a hassle getting through the hallways with guys zooming past on them...He also said you'd walk past a meeting room and there'd be several of them parked outside the rooms cluttering the halls...

All of the media is happy about the segways ban. They were constantly dodging those things zipping by. It was funny though, they pressed OB about it and he got a bit miffed. His temper will be on display during the season.

OB knows & calls everybody by name. Has a quick mind and a sharp wit. And loves everything football. Loves coaching, loves watching others coach, loves preparing for practices.

Late day, the coaches all meet and watch video of that days practice to go over whether they're using the best teaching methods for this guy or that group or that play. These guys leave no stone unturned.

steelbtexan
05-29-2014, 09:36 AM
All of the media is happy about the segways ban. They were constantly dodging those things zipping by. It was funny though, they pressed OB about it and he got a bit miffed. His temper will be on display during the season.

OB knows & calls everybody by name. Has a quick mind and a sharp wit. And loves everything football. Loves coaching, loves watching others coach, loves preparing for practices.

Late day, the coaches all meet and watch video of that days practice to go over whether they're using the best teaching methods for this guy or that group or that play. These guys leave no stone unturned.

Are you saying Kubiak/staff didn't have sharp minds/quick wit and left stones unturned?

kingtexan
05-29-2014, 09:36 AM
If they thought that highly of Savage, thought he was a QB to lead this franchise in games as early as the upcoming season, why on earth would they wait until virtually the 5th round to draft him ?

Because they knew they could?

kingtexan
05-29-2014, 09:38 AM
Are you saying Kubiak/staff didn't have sharp minds/quick wit and left stones unturned?

If you really ever studied Kubiaks facial features, it seemed he was very close to having downs syndrome.

infantrycak
05-29-2014, 09:58 AM
If they thought that highly of Savage, thought he was a QB to lead this franchise in games as early as the upcoming season, why on earth would they wait until virtually the 5th round to draft him ? Makes no sense to assign such a low priority in the Draft to a player that would be considered the guy to play far and away the most important position on the whole team ?

Because they knew they could?

Exactly or at least expected and were willing to risk it. No point in drafting someone earlier than necessary just so fans can think of him as a 3rd round pick instead of a 4th round pick.

If you really ever studied Kubiaks facial features, it seemed he was very close to having downs syndrome.

By all means please expound on this one.

michaelm
05-29-2014, 09:59 AM
By all means please expound on this one.

You must be baiting him with this statement. You can't possibly expect a reasonable explanation.

drs23
05-29-2014, 10:43 AM
If they thought that highly of Savage, thought he was a QB to lead this franchise in games as early as the upcoming season, why on earth would they wait until virtually the 5th round to draft him ? Makes no sense to assign such a low priority in the Draft to a player that would be considered the guy to play far and away the most important position on the whole team ?

Value. One of the key buzzwords along with "being coachable", "being a good team mate" "getting into the playbook" along with several other "approved 'canned' responses" to just about any question posed thus far.

IDEXAN
05-29-2014, 11:06 AM
Because they knew they could?
Then why not just use the Mr Irrelevant pick on him instead of "reaching" with the 135th Draft pick ? Obviously my point is that if O'Brien saw potential, what other team(s) might see the same thing and draft Savage before the Texans made their move. Nah, I don't buy it, O'Brien took him with the thought that he's a real long shot who might pay off in a few years as maybe a reliable backup.
If he sees a QB prospect he sees as a realistic candidate to be the Texans starter, he'll use atleast a second-round pick on him.

Double Barrel
05-29-2014, 11:07 AM
I think he's saying the "right things" because he knows the spot light is on him & he knows that stupd "work ethic" thing is hanging around his neck.

I never doubted his work ethic & the Texans wouldn't have drafted him if they thought there was any truth to any of it. & they've got people on this staff that would have known if there were.

Guys don't usually have negative body fat numbers if they have work ethic or motivational issues. & Clowney handled all the criticism like a champ imo. Very Texans worthy.

Sure he's saying the right things, but that in itself indicates that his head is in the right place.

And while you and I might not have doubted his work ethic, that was clearly the story and knock against Clowney going into the draft.

TBH, I'm glad they knocked him for it, because it is fuel to his inner fire to prove everyone wrong. Add that motivation to his potential and working with a guy like JJ, and he could have a monster rookie season.

If you really ever studied Kubiaks facial features, it seemed he was very close to having downs syndrome.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b343/NovaReon/notsureifserious.jpg

EllisUnit
05-29-2014, 11:17 AM
Then why not just use the Mr Irrelevant pick on him instead of "reaching" with the 135th Draft pick ? Obviously my point is that if O'Brien saw potential, what other team(s) might see the same thing and draft Savage before the Texans made their move. Nah, I don't buy it, O'Brien took him with the thought that he's a real long shot who might pay off in a few years as maybe a reliable backup.
If he sees a QB prospect he sees as a realistic candidate to be the Texans starter, he'll use atleast a second-round pick on him.

I really dont think it is about that, people get to caught up in college stats and BS. Savage did not play a full career. My thinking is that BOB knows if he had that he would of been a 1st round pick. Thats how i see it. Not to mention Savage wasnt exactly a nig name teams were throwing around. I think we took a chance hoping he would still be there in the later rounds and he was.

Playoffs
05-29-2014, 12:15 PM
Quick Look Video: Coaches leading drills (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/1st_Look_Coaches_leading_drills/4fdb3d7a-ae62-4cd7-b16e-39f1e548edf3)

Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley
DJ Swearinger likes the new D better, enjoys the flexibility of D, ability to confuse opponents/disguise looks. Now tough to pick up.

RB Dennis Johnson says every time they fumble a ball, it's a lap. RBs use slick blue sleeves on footballs in drills to make more aware of security

We're not supposed to quote coach/player convos @ #Texans OTAs. So If you go to open camp, listen to Mike Vrabel teach. Hilarious, memorable

Deepi Sidhu ‏@DeepSlant
O'Brien on Swearinger: He's a young player but he practices hard. He really seems to love football and that's what I like about him.#Texans

O'Brien is headed to Austin for a team function and will continue to regroup, evaluate tomorrow morning and thru the weekend before Week 2.

O'Brien says positions, including RBs, are progressing well. It's only May 29 and we have some time before we play the Redskins, he jokes.

O'Brien: We've thrown a lot of info at these guys &, to me, they've picked it up as well as could be expected at this pt. I've been pleased.

O'Brien says he saw improvement over the 3 days this week. Was pleased with Week 1 of OTAs. #Texans

O'Brien: I have 350 songs on my iPod. Pretty random. I just make sure it's clean. #Texans

Texans playlist today: Rihanna, Pearl Jam, Darius Rucker, Macklemore, Swedish House, Fuel.
Drew Dougherty @DoughertyDrew
O'Brien included WR Andre Johnson "when he comes back" in that group of names who are leaders on #Texans.

"We have pretty good leadership on this football team."-O'Brien on #Texans. Mentioned a dozen names after that. [Lechler, Watt, Cushing, Reed, JJo, KJ, DJ, D.Brown, Myers, QBs, and above...]

O'Brien: #Texans DE Jared Crick has been here every day this offseason. Watches a lot of tape on his own.

O'Brien on #Texans WR DeVier Posey: Fun guy to coach. Asks a lot of questions. Progressing well.

Dave Zangaro @DZangaro
O'Brien is talking about iPads and now much easier it makes it to carry around. Remembers think playbooks being carried around. Install things quickly.

O'Brien said the learning process is a part of the evaluation process. Said it's important to see how they implement things they've learned.

PDS ‏@PatDStat
Jadeveon Clowney and Tom Savage were not at #Texans OTAs today. They are in Los Angeles for the 20th annual @NFLPA Rookie Premiere.http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/toropalm.gif

https://www.nflplayers.com/Articles/Press-Releases/20th-NFLPA-Rookie-Premiere-Set-to-Take-Place-in-LA/
James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN
Rookie NT Louis Nix Louis Nix twisted his ankle and missed #Texans day 3 of OTAs. Should be good for next weeks OTAs.
Greg Bailey ‏@GregBailey13
#Texans safety DJ Swearinger: I'm a pro. It's my job to know. That follows nice praise from Bill O'Brien. He really likes DJs passion.
Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26
Texans rookie C James Ferentz, Kirk's son: "In Iowa it probably carries some weight,down here I don't think anybody even knows where Iowa is"
PDS ‏@PatDStat
Alan Bonner said he is "Having fun with the game." Said this reminds him again of his college days. More work out of the slot. #Texans

michaelm
05-29-2014, 12:23 PM
I think this year we are going to find out that we have a much better group of wide receivers than we previously thought. I've always felt that WR is the one position where Kubiak was most reluctant to trust young players.
I honestly think he showed lack of trust to the point that it was detrimental to their confidence and development. I still say that's why Walter hung on so long. Kubiak trusted his decisions above anyone else's talent.
I think O'Brien will be the exact opposite. He seems like a guy that will challenge the young guys and reward them with playing time if they respond.
My prediction is that at the end of preseason, there will be a few WRs cut that we all hate to see cut, and they will end up on active rosters for other teams.

kingtexan
05-29-2014, 12:24 PM
By all means please expound on this one.

Just an observation. If you look at Garys face, and then look at someone suffering from downs syndrome, it looks like that DNA pool came real close to heading south. Maybe because he always seemed confused.

Thorn
05-29-2014, 01:16 PM
Texans playlist today: Rihanna, Pearl Jam, Darius Rucker, Macklemore, Swedish House, Fuel.

I recognize Pearl Jam. Who are these people?

EllisUnit
05-29-2014, 01:22 PM
I recognize Pearl Jam. Who are these people?

Rhinana is pop
Darius Rucker is country singer, used to be lead singer for hootie and blow fish
Fuel is Rock

dunno about the rest

AngryNateFTW
05-29-2014, 01:33 PM
You guys don't know who Macklemore is?

The Pencil Neck
05-29-2014, 01:39 PM
If they thought that highly of Savage, thought he was a QB to lead this franchise in games as early as the upcoming season, why on earth would they wait until virtually the 5th round to draft him ? Makes no sense to assign such a low priority in the Draft to a player that would be considered the guy to play far and away the most important position on the whole team ?

Because that's when they thought they could get him.

Why draft a guy at 1-1 when he's going to be available at 4.135?

HOU-TEX
05-29-2014, 01:45 PM
Nix was out due to ankle sprain. Expected back next week

James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN · 3m · Louis Nix twisted his ankle and missed #Texans day 3 of OTAs. Should be good for next weeks OTAs.

The Pencil Neck
05-29-2014, 01:45 PM
You guys don't know who Macklemore is?

Why in the world would we know who a rap artist is?

JCTexan
05-29-2014, 01:48 PM
You guys don't know who Macklemore is?

The guy from that Dr. Pepper commercial?

The Pencil Neck
05-29-2014, 01:48 PM
I recognize Pearl Jam. Who are these people?

I've listened to Pearl Jam and Fuel.

Darius Rucker was the singer of Hootie & The Blowfish and now he's a country guy -- I think I've heard 3 of his songs ever... and 2 of those were Hootie songs.

Rihanna's a cutie and I'm sure I've heard something she sings, but... I couldn't name a single tune of hers if you put a gun to my head. I know Macklemore was a rap artist whose had some #1 hits even though he was independent of a major label, but I don't think I've ever heard anything by him (and I don't want to.)

Swedish House? Is that a massage parlor?

HOU-TEX
05-29-2014, 01:49 PM
The guy from that Dr. Pepper commercial?

I think that's the Bull dog guy, right?

EllisUnit
05-29-2014, 01:50 PM
I've listened to Pearl Jam and Fuel.

Darius Rucker was the singer of Hootie & The Blowfish and now he's a country guy -- I think I've heard 3 of his songs ever... and 2 of those were Hootie songs.

Rihanna's a cutie and I'm sure I've heard something she sings, but... I couldn't name a single tune of hers if you put a gun to my head. I know Macklemore was a rap artist whose had some #1 hits even though he was independent of a major label, but I don't think I've ever heard anything by him (and I don't want to.)

Swedish House? Is that a massage parlor?

Everyone loves a happy ending :bubbles:

JCTexan
05-29-2014, 01:53 PM
I think that's the Bull dog guy, right?

I'm talking about this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apE3PzEnG7U) commercial.

The Pencil Neck
05-29-2014, 01:54 PM
I'm talking about this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apE3PzEnG7U) commercial.

Yep. Never saw that before.

HOU-TEX
05-29-2014, 01:54 PM
I'm talking about this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apE3PzEnG7U) commercial.

:shrug: Never seen that cat before in my life

michaelm
05-29-2014, 02:13 PM
Yep. Never saw that before.

:shrug: Never seen that cat before in my life

Y'all haven't heard Thrift Shop? NSFW due to language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes

AngryNateFTW
05-29-2014, 02:17 PM
Why in the world would we know who a rap artist is?

Just because it's rap doesn't mean you're oblivious to it.

I don't like Country but I hear it all the time. Macklemore has quite a few popular songs that were very big hits on the radio.

Thrift Shop (Big), Can't Stop Us, and Same Love (Very Big)

HOU-TEX
05-29-2014, 02:23 PM
Y'all haven't heard Thrift Shop? NSFW due to language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes

:spit: Is that a real "singer"? That's comical. Kinda like it should be a parody of some sort

The Pencil Neck
05-29-2014, 02:26 PM
Just because it's rap doesn't mean you're oblivious to it.

I don't like Country but I hear it all the time. Macklemore has quite a few popular songs that were very big hits on the radio.

Thrift Shop (Big), Can't Stop Us, and Same Love (Very Big)

1. I don't listen to the radio.

2. I don't watch commercials on TV.

3. I don't watch much TV.

I just listened to a little bit of Thrift Shop. I think I heard it once before but I never knew the name of it or who it was by. And if I never hear it again, I'll be OK with that.

michaelm
05-29-2014, 02:29 PM
:spit: Is that a real "singer"? That's comical. Kinda like it should be a parody of some sort

1. I don't listen to the radio.

2. I don't watch commercials on TV.

3. I don't watch much TV.

I just listened to a little bit of Thrift Shop. I think I heard it once before but I never knew the name of it or who it was by. And if I never hear it again, I'll be OK with that.

I'm in the same age group as y'all and I'm a Macklemore fan. If you're open to listening to another track, I think this one would appeal to our age group more than Thrift Shop.

Macklemore and Ryan Lewis - My Oh My
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvNQWQSwmow

The Pencil Neck
05-29-2014, 02:43 PM
I'm in the same age group as y'all and I'm a Macklemore fan. If you're open to listening to another track, I think this one would appeal to our age group more than Thrift Shop.

Macklemore and Ryan Lewis - My Oh My
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvNQWQSwmow

That's a lot better than Thrift Shop, but still not something I'd choose to listen to.

That's not saying it's bad, just not for me. I don't like most rap. I like the concept of spoken word lyrics that are almost prose text over a foundation of music that breaks into actual singing in choruses or whatever. That's an interesting approach to the art-form.

But.

With rap, there's frequently an aura of posing that goes into the delivery of the spoken word part that I find extremely irritating. That "I'm tough, I'm from the streets, I've got an accent" stuff leaves me cold. Even most metal-rap makes me just roll my eyes and walk away.

AngryNateFTW
05-29-2014, 02:56 PM
That's a lot better than Thrift Shop, but still not something I'd choose to listen to.

That's not saying it's bad, just not for me. I don't like most rap. I like the concept of spoken word lyrics that are almost prose text over a foundation of music that breaks into actual singing in choruses or whatever. That's an interesting approach to the art-form.

But.

With rap, there's frequently an aura of posing that goes into the delivery of the spoken word part that I find extremely irritating. That "I'm tough, I'm from the streets, I've got an accent" stuff leaves me cold. Even most metal-rap makes me just roll my eyes and walk away.

Not to say try to sell Macklemore off to you but he's completely different. He doesn't think he's hard, tough, etc. I actually enjoy his music because he's telling a story about the hardships we see around us, and some of his own personal experiences.

Double Barrel
05-29-2014, 03:30 PM
I recognize Pearl Jam. Who are these people?

I'm with you, man. I had to look up the rest.

Y'all haven't heard Thrift Shop? NSFW due to language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes

ugh. My boy brought it home one day, but I made him turn it off around me. The looping sax riff gets old quick.

I need musicians to play the music that I listen to. Some producer creating loops on redundant drum programs is nothing I'll ever be interested in.

But, as always, to each his own. I doubt many here would dig what's in my CD player right now.

NCTexan
05-29-2014, 03:34 PM
ugh. My boy brought it home one day, but I made him turn it off around me. The looping sax riff gets old quick.

I need musicians to play the music that I listen to. Some producer creating loops on redundant drum programs is nothing I'll ever be interested in.

But, as always, to each his own. I doubt many here would dig what's in my CD player right now.

I actually think that Ryan Lewis (the producer) is better at what he does than Macklemore is. But you gotta listen to the other stuff. Thrift Shop is supposed to be a kinda poppy annoying version of Wing$ in my opinion.

Double Barrel
05-29-2014, 03:37 PM
I actually think that Ryan Lewis (the producer) is better at what he does than Macklemore is. But you gotta listen to the other stuff. Thrift Shop is supposed to be a kinda poppy annoying version of Wing$ in my opinion.

Thanks for the heads up, man. I'll check out any kind of music at least once.

I get why folks like it, though. It's catchy, like a good pop song should be. There is certainly talent involved with writing catchy hooks.

PHILLYTEXANFAN
05-29-2014, 03:38 PM
Anything interesting at OTAs besides music

Blake
05-29-2014, 03:41 PM
Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley
Quote:
DJ Swearinger likes the new D better, enjoys the flexibility of D, ability to confuse opponents/disguise looks. Now tough to pick up.

So its a big boy defense. Got it.

escrimador
05-29-2014, 03:43 PM
Anything interesting at OTAs besides music

IKR. It's just quotes from media interviews, no observations from the camp itself. Been refreshing the page since 2pm :(

Texans_Chick
05-29-2014, 03:45 PM
Anything interesting at OTAs besides music

I can answer a lot of questions, but it is hard for me to just write up everything as a narrative.

So far I've answered three questions on OTAs so far at this chat. The chat is only as good as the questions I get:

http://www.replyall.me/stephanie-stradleys-cast/ask-me-anything-about-texans-otas/

You can subscribe to it to see answers as they pop up I believe as well.

PHILLYTEXANFAN
05-29-2014, 03:54 PM
I can answer a lot of questions, but it is hard for me to just write up everything as a narrative.

So far I've answered three questions on OTAs so far at this chat. The chat is only as good as the questions I get:

http://www.replyall.me/stephanie-stradleys-cast/ask-me-anything-about-texans-otas/

You can subscribe to it to see answers as they pop up I believe as well.

Thank you for that.

Hervoyel
05-29-2014, 04:17 PM
Thanks for the heads up, man. I'll check out any kind of music at least once.

I get why folks like it, though. It's catchy, like a good pop song should be. There is certainly talent involved with writing catchy hooks.

Indeed there is but it's the same talent that's involved in writing "I'm Loving it!" to sell hamburgers.

Lest I come across as being a music snob good pop is a guilty pleasure but at least in my case I've found that even when I like something about it the feeling doesn't last. Very, very few pop songs ever stay in my music rotation for longer than a couple of months at most.

Texans_Chick
05-29-2014, 04:57 PM
IKR. It's just quotes from media interviews, no observations from the camp itself. Been refreshing the page since 2pm :(

It is going to be slower getting news out. It used to be that you grabbed players after camp and coach, get your quotes and then write stories.

Now, you get booted early from OTAs, around 11: 40ish.

You are not supposed to tweet what you saw work wise. So that's the reason for the music tweets.

Then coach is supposed to show up around 12:30ish. Then we wait for players after their lunch but before afternoon meetings.

I'm tweeting less stuff because typically the players are saying less stuff.

thunderkyss
05-29-2014, 07:29 PM
Then why not just use the Mr Irrelevant pick on him instead of "reaching" with the 135th Draft pick ? Obviously my point is that if O'Brien saw potential, what other team(s) might see the same thing and draft Savage before the Texans made their move. Nah, I don't buy it, O'Brien took him with the thought that he's a real long shot who might pay off in a few years as maybe a reliable backup.
If he sees a QB prospect he sees as a realistic candidate to be the Texans starter, he'll use atleast a second-round pick on him.

The way I explained my approach to this draft concerning QBs was dependent on who was there when my pick came up & who I expected to be there by the time my next pick came up.

When the compensatory pick we used to take Savage came up the QBs I liked best were still on the board; McCarron, Mettenberger, & Murray. Those were the guys I thought had the best chance of being productive starters in the NFL. I also included Manziel, Bridgewater, & Carr on the list.

Now that the Texans picked Savage, I have to think their QB list looked something like:

Bortles
Savage
McCarron
Carr
Mettenberger
Garoppolo


Murray & Manziel are totally different QBs than that list & honestly, Garoppolo probably belongs in that Murray/Manziel group.

So at the top of the 5th round... our compensatory 4th, you had the #2, #3, & #4 guys still on the board. By the time our 6th round pick came up (because we traded our 5th to move up to get Nix) I would have expected none of them to still be there. & none of them were.

I understand what you're saying though. If I were running the draft, I would have taken McCarron at 33, thinking the other teams were seeing what I was seeing. But at 33, you also had #4 & #5 from the list of potential starters I prioritized.

The only OG at that time comparable to Su'a-Filo was Zack Martin. Neither were going to be there in the third & there are no comparable OGs that were available in the third.

This draft was different, weird imo. The prototypical guys were all there at the bottom, on the third day. I never would have expected that. It looks like athleticism has moved up a few notches on today's list of desirable traits, and experience has fallen quite a bit. At the very least I would have thought Carr would have gone before Bortles on the fact that he's been pretty consistent for a lot longer, even Bridgewater's experience, I thought, should have put him ahead of Bortles.

JRingo
05-29-2014, 07:29 PM
If you really ever studied Kubiaks facial features, it seemed he was very close to having downs syndrome.

Classless post IMO.

False Start
05-29-2014, 07:33 PM
If you really ever studied Kubiaks facial features, it seemed he was very close to having downs syndrome.

Really?! :hankpalm:

Not cool, man.

Playoffs
05-29-2014, 07:45 PM
Anything interesting at OTAs besides music

Pretty much everything that's out there for Day 3 is in post #111 above.

News trickling out in bits & pieces, over time some themes will develop and I'll post some conclusions as they're evident. Nothing earth shattering, yet. Biggest difference is the coaching styles, obvious canned answers, new schemes & players.

I've seen many times in the past a player or players or coaches even will tip their game strategies. This won't be one of those teams. Tight ship.

CloakNNNdagger
05-29-2014, 08:07 PM
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Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 1h

The #Texans are proving that they're open-minded in every aspect, especially special teams. Don't rule out anyone from contributing.



Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 1h

This #Texans coaching staff spends a tremendous amount of time on STs. They understand that it's truly 1/3 of the game. #Texans



Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 1h

You'll hear "versatility" & "team" a million times RT @John_Worldpeace: Versatility seems to be the focus with this coaching staff



Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 1h

Whether it was stack & shed, pass rush, grip & rip...it didn't matter. Mercilus & Sapp were displaying great form w/ Vrabel's teachings.



Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 1h

With JD Clowney out of town, Whitney Mercilus & Ricky Sapp seemed to be on a much higher level in OLB drills. #Texans



Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 1h

The Brooks Reed experiment seems to be going smooth. Surprised by how natural he seems at times. Still will use his pass rush ability, too.



Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 1h

#Texans really seem to like OG/OT Cody White's versatility. View his role similar to David Quessenberry.



Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 1h

Some quick notes on #Texans 3rd day of OTAs...

Playoffs
05-29-2014, 09:31 PM
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Brisco_County
05-29-2014, 10:11 PM
I need musicians to play the music that I listen to. Some producer creating loops on redundant drum programs is nothing I'll ever be interested in.

I'm kind of with you on that, but then I listen to some industrial music like Ministry. A lot of looping involved there, but I still enjoy it.

thunderkyss
05-29-2014, 11:03 PM
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--houstontexans.com

Dude wearing that number 12 makes it look like a punishment... like a dunce cap or something.

mussop
05-29-2014, 11:13 PM
I'm kind of with you on that, but then I listen to some industrial music like Ministry. A lot of looping involved there, but I still enjoy it.

I seen ministry at numbers I beleive in 90 or 91. The mind is a terrible thing to taste. GREAT concert!!! I love the underground industrial stuff from the 80s. Front 242, revolting cocks, Nitzer Ebb, caberaite Voltaire, PTP, 1000 homo DJ's, st Che. The mainstream popular music of the 80's sucked and deserves it's reputation for being one of the worst generations of music ever but the underground stuff is some of my favorite of all time.

DocBar
05-29-2014, 11:16 PM
I seen ministry at numbers I beleive in 90 or 91. The mind is a terrible thing to taste. GREAT concert!!! I love the underground industrial stuff from the 80s. Front 242, revolting cocks, Nitzer Ebb, caberaite Voltaire, PTP, 1000 homo DJ's, st Che. The mainstream popular music of the 80's sucked and deserves it's reputation for being one of the worst generations of music ever but the underground stuff is some of my favorite of all time.Do you mean Number's, the night club? Off of Westheimer? I went there back in the '80's!!! It's still there?

mussop
05-29-2014, 11:25 PM
Do you mean Number's, the night club? Off of Westheimer? I went there back in the '80's!!! It's still there?

Yes that's the one. I went there a lot in the 80s. And yes it's still there. I went to see a friends son who's in a band play across the street from numbers about a month ago. After it was over I was telling my wife about all the great times I had there In the 80s. She noticed the sign said it was 80s night. We ended up going in and it was like going into a time warp. Literally nothing has changed in that place. Same music, same atmosphere. The transvestites are ALOT BIGGER and the gay dude that used to own it and the record rack isn't around anymore. It's 80s night every Friday. You should check it out sometimes it's like going back I time.

DocBar
05-29-2014, 11:38 PM
Yes that's the one. I went there a lot in the 80s. And yes it's still there. I went to see a friends son who's in a band play across the street from numbers about a month ago. After it was over I was telling my wife about all the great times I had there In the 80s. She noticed the sign said it was 80s night. We ended up going in and it was like going into a time warp. Literally nothing has changed in that place. Same music, same atmosphere. The transvestites are ALOT BIGGER and the gay dude that used to own it and the record rack isn't around anymore. It's 80s night every Friday. You should check it out sometimes it's like going back I time.That's crazy!! I had a similar experience with my wife in Juarez, Mexico. I went to basic training and AIT in El Paso in the '80's and partied in Juarez a lot. In 2002, I met my wife (she's from Las Cruces, NM. and 12 years younger than me) and we started talking about Juarez. Lo and behold, we knew the same clubs. We went there in 2004 and the same clubs were still there, with the same décor. Crazy.

mussop
05-29-2014, 11:41 PM
That's crazy!! I had a similar experience with my wife in Juarez, Mexico. I went to basic training and AIT in El Paso in the '80's and partied in Juarez a lot. In 2002, I met my wife (she's from Las Cruces, NM. and 12 years younger than me) and we started talking about Juarez. Lo and behold, we knew the same clubs. We went there in 2004 and the same clubs were still there, with the same décor. Crazy.

I partied in Jaurez in the 80's too!! Small world!

DocBar
05-29-2014, 11:42 PM
I partied in Jaurez in the 80's too!! Small world!Yeah it is. Juarez was a blast back when it was "safe"!!!

mussop
05-29-2014, 11:46 PM
Yeah it is. Juarez was a blast back when it was "safe"!!!

yeh i wouldn't go back there now if you paid me.

DocBar
05-29-2014, 11:51 PM
yeh i wouldn't go back there now if you paid me.No kidding. I have several hundred dollars worth of Venezuelan Bolivar's that I can only cash in in Mexico and I won't go to Juarez to exchange them. My wife and daughter live in Las Cruces and I won't do that.

Wow...I'm currently about 6 miles from Mexico and never even thought about having her send those out to be exchanged. I have 1 week left here, so I might do that.

kingtexan
05-30-2014, 08:09 AM
Do you mean Number's, the night club? Off of Westheimer? I went there back in the '80's!!! It's still there?

Lucky to catch many of the so-called New Wave bands there back in the 80's. Adam Ant, The Fixx, Missing Persons, Flock of Seagulls, The Cure ... even some punkers like Black Flagg and Suicidal Tendencies ... was a crazy place back in high school, and no problem to get in underage.

CloakNNNdagger
05-30-2014, 08:35 AM
It's interesting to note that the RBs during practice are being given footballs with an extremely slick blue silk cover in order to have them emphasize ball security.........and the penalty for every fumble?.........."Young man, hand over the ball and enjoy yourself a lap!" Early accountability. I love it.

NCTexan
05-30-2014, 09:00 AM
It's interesting to note that the RBs during practice are being given footballs with an extremely slick blue silk cover in order to have them emphasize ball security.........and the penalty for every fumble?.........."Young man, hand over the ball and enjoy yourself a lap!" Early accountability. I love it.

Greg Gabriel thinks that fumbling is almost entirely mental. Says it's a concentration thing. If he's right, and I think he might be, then this is a great way to have players focus on it.

CloakNNNdagger
05-30-2014, 09:50 AM
Player volunteered information from the OB regimen is sparse by design, but the QBs' short statments say volumes.

QB's learning, appreciating new Texans offense (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/QBs-learning-appreciating-new-Texans-offense/a55c8d48-387c-4bf3-9e82-174c0ffc8c98)
Posted May 28, 2014
Drew Dougherty


Even if their heads might be spinning, the Texans quarterbacks say they're enthused about the new offense.

"It's a very productive time for us, just because of all the new things that are going on out there," Ryan Fitzpatrick said.

Case Keenum, who started eight games in 2013, said he likes the offense as well.

"I think it's going to be good," Keenum said. "It's going to be suited to fit whatever guys we have that can play."

T.J. Yates, who guided the Texans to a playoff victory in January of 2012, is excited about the freedom given to the quarterback in the new system.

"If you like a certain thing here, you want to signal a route to a guy, or you kind of just want to take control, there's lots of options that you can have in this offense," Yates said. "Lots of places to go. It's a matchup offense. You like a match up with a guy here, you can go there. We got a lot of players on this team that we can take advantage of it then."

Yates played collegiately at North Carolina, where the Tar Heels operated an offense very similar to what was run under former Texans head coach Gary Kubiak. Yates described the new offense as a "polar opposite" to the one he's played for the last seven years.

Fitzpatrick, Keenum and Yates have about a month's head-start on rookie Tom Savage, who cited brainpower as a necessity in O'Brien's system.

"You gotta be smart," Savage said. "You gotta know everything. Whether it's the looks the defense is giving you. Where people on your side are supposed to line up, everything."

For the most part, O'Brien has been pleased with what he's seen from the four quarterbacks.

"They’re all doing a good job," O'Brien said Tuesday. "It’s not easy to learn a new offense, especially when you’ve been around awhile. I’ve seen a lot of improvement every day with that whole group.”

While digesting the new formations, plays, verbiage and terminology might be complicated, Keenum said the ultimate job of the quarterback running O'Brien's system is very simple.

"The job as a quarterback is to get the ball out of our hands in whatever way that is," Keenum said. "Run, pass, get it to the guys who can make plays."

xtruroyaltyx
05-30-2014, 10:56 AM
That is refreshing to hear. Especially after trying to dispute all the bull crap from people during Kubiak /Schaub era that our audibles and freedom the QB had was on par with most other teams..."They just weren't as demonstrative"...Yeah ok...

Honestly, this offense seems like it is tailor made for Case Keenum.

ArlingtonTexan
05-30-2014, 11:19 AM
That is refreshing to hear. Especially after trying to dispute all the bull crap from people during Kubiak /Schaub era that our audibles and freedom the QB had was on par with most other teams..."They just weren't as demonstrative"...Yeah ok...

Honestly, this offense seems like it is tailor made for Case Keenum.

Only because that's what you want to believe.

kingtexan
05-30-2014, 11:26 AM
Honestly, this offense seems like it is tailor made for Case Keenum.

Its the hurry up, always from the gun, spread option?

The Pencil Neck
05-30-2014, 12:04 PM
That is refreshing to hear. Especially after trying to dispute all the bull crap from people during Kubiak /Schaub era that our audibles and freedom the QB had was on par with most other teams..."They just weren't as demonstrative"...Yeah ok...

Honestly, this offense seems like it is tailor made for Case Keenum.

If that's what you thought people were saying, then you were misunderstanding the whole concept.

In Kubiak's offense, you don't have complete freedom as a QB. What you have are options that are supposed to counter whatever the defense was doing. Most of the thinking was on the QB and the receivers didn't have to make a lot of reads (although they did adjust their routes according to some reads). If the defense was going to do X, then the QB had to read that and go to this receiver but if the defense was going to do Y, then the QB had to read that and go to this other receiver. At the line of scrimmage, the QB could make a read and shift to one or two other options.

It was NOT complete freedom and I don't believe anyone ever argued that it was.

In this offense, the QB can make the read and if he sees a matchup he likes, he can make a specific call for a specific receiver. Or he can change a whole group of receivers' routes by calling a package on one side or the other.

This way allows the QB much more freedom. But it's still different from some other approaches where the coaches send in a package and the QB has a palette of options based off of it or even access to the whole playbook.

Double Barrel
05-30-2014, 12:10 PM
Assuming that O'Brien is installing a version of the Patriots offense, this article is good insight:

Speak My Language

New England’s offense is a member of the NFL’s third offensive family, the Erhardt-Perkins system. The offense was named after the two men, Ron Erhardt and Ray Perkins, who developed it while working for the Patriots under head coach Chuck Fairbanks in the 1970s. According to Perkins, it was assembled in the same way most such systems are developed. “I don’t look at it as us inventing it,” he explained. “I look at it as a bunch of coaches sitting in rooms late at night organizing and getting things together to help players be successful.”

The backbone of the Erhardt-Perkins system is that plays — pass plays in particular — are not organized by a route tree or by calling a single receiver’s route, but by what coaches refer to as “concepts.” Each play has a name, and that name conjures up an image for both the quarterback and the other players on offense. And, most importantly, the concept can be called from almost any formation or set. Who does what changes, but the theory and tactics driving the play do not. “In essence, you’re running the same play,” said Perkins. “You’re just giving them some window-dressing to make it look different.”

The biggest advantage of the concept-based system is that it operates from the perspective of the most critical player on offense: the quarterback. In other systems, even if the underlying principles are the exact same, the play and its name might be very different. Rather than juggling all this information in real time, an Erhardt-Perkins quarterback only has to read a given arrangement of receivers. “You can cut down on the plays and get different looks from your formations and who’s in them. It’s easier for the players to learn. It’s easier for the quarterback to learn,” former Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis said back in 2000. “You get different looks without changing his reads. You don’t need an open-ended number of plays.”

Full article (http://grantland.com/features/how-terminology-erhardt-perkins-system-helped-maintain-dominance-tom-brady-patriots/)

xtruroyaltyx
05-30-2014, 12:28 PM
Only because that's what you want to believe.


I have a post somewhere around here saying I think it would be best for the team if Savage wins the job.

I didn't go to U of H, didn't wand Manziel or VY....
So I don't have some hometown hero complex.
How about instead of making asinine statements, just ask why I believe that.

---------------

You know what...Nevermind the discussion. I come here to mostly discuss football. If you're the type of person that sees a simple statement and starts throwing out wild out your ass accusations we should just put each other on ignore. I'd rather just skip over the non-sense.

xtruroyaltyx
05-30-2014, 12:33 PM
Its the hurry up, always from the gun, spread option?

I believe it's going to be fast paced.

I think Keenum excels in that kind of offense where he doesn't have to hold onto the ball.

I think it's tailor made for him because I think he excels moving at a faster pace, getting the ball out quick and making pre snap reads. I think Case is smart and will perform better with more freedom to take advantage of things he sees.

I don't know much about Fitz...I haven't seen Yates do it much and Savage is pretty unknown to me....

I've seen a lot of Case playing football though and I believe this offensive style suits him well.

Doesn't mean I think he'll succeed. Just because you are in a scheme that fits you doesn't mean you're good enough.

xtruroyaltyx
05-30-2014, 12:40 PM
If that's what you thought people were saying, then you were misunderstanding the whole concept.


Ummm...No....

I spoke with people that said exactly what you quoted in my post. I'm not misunderstanding much regarding the concepts of Kubiak's offense. Impossible for any of us to know everything, but I'm confident I had a pretty good handle on the overlay.

infantrycak
05-30-2014, 12:44 PM
If that's what you thought people were saying, then you were misunderstanding the whole concept.

In Kubiak's offense, you don't have complete freedom as a QB. What you have are options that are supposed to counter whatever the defense was doing. Most of the thinking was on the QB and the receivers didn't have to make a lot of reads (although they did adjust their routes according to some reads). If the defense was going to do X, then the QB had to read that and go to this receiver but if the defense was going to do Y, then the QB had to read that and go to this other receiver. At the line of scrimmage, the QB could make a read and shift to one or two other options.

It was NOT complete freedom and I don't believe anyone ever argued that it was.

In this offense, the QB can make the read and if he sees a matchup he likes, he can make a specific call for a specific receiver. Or he can change a whole group of receivers' routes by calling a package on one side or the other.

This way allows the QB much more freedom. But it's still different from some other approaches where the coaches send in a package and the QB has a palette of options based off of it or even access to the whole playbook.

Bingo. Nobody (I am sure somewhere there was a whack job outlier, but effectively) was claiming the Texans QBs had "as much" freedom.

Ummm...No....

I spoke with people that said exactly what you quoted in my post.

I've talked with people who say they've had conversations with their grilled cheese sandwiches. Doesn't mean they are typical of any normal conversation.

IDEXAN
05-30-2014, 12:58 PM
The way I explained my approach to this draft concerning QBs was dependent on who was there when my pick came up & who I expected to be there by the time my next pick came up.

When the compensatory pick we used to take Savage came up the QBs I liked best were still on the board; McCarron, Mettenberger, & Murray. Those were the guys I thought had the best chance of being productive starters in the NFL. I also included Manziel, Bridgewater, & Carr on the list.

Now that the Texans picked Savage, I have to think their QB list looked something like:

Bortles
Savage
McCarron
Carr
Mettenberger
Garoppolo


Murray & Manziel are totally different QBs than that list & honestly, Garoppolo probably belongs in that Murray/Manziel group.

So at the top of the 5th round... our compensatory 4th, you had the #2, #3, & #4 guys still on the board. By the time our 6th round pick came up (because we traded our 5th to move up to get Nix) I would have expected none of them to still be there. & none of them were.

I understand what you're saying though. If I were running the draft, I would have taken McCarron at 33, thinking the other teams were seeing what I was seeing. But at 33, you also had #4 & #5 from the list of potential starters I prioritized.

The only OG at that time comparable to Su'a-Filo was Zack Martin. Neither were going to be there in the third & there are no comparable OGs that were available in the third.

This draft was different, weird imo. The prototypical guys were all there at the bottom, on the third day. I never would have expected that. It looks like athleticism has moved up a few notches on today's list of desirable traits, and experience has fallen quite a bit. At the very least I would have thought Carr would have gone before Bortles on the fact that he's been pretty consistent for a lot longer, even Bridgewater's experience, I thought, should have put him ahead of Bortles.
OK thunderkyss, are you telling me that the Texans had a higher grade on Savage than both Garrapolo and Carr ?

ArlingtonTexan
05-30-2014, 01:06 PM
I have a post somewhere around here saying I think it would be best for the team if Savage wins the job.

I didn't go to U of H, didn't wand Manziel or VY....
So I don't have some hometown hero complex.
How about instead of making asinine statements, just ask why I believe that.

---------------

You know what...Nevermind the discussion. I come here to mostly discuss football. If you're the type of person that sees a simple statement and starts throwing out wild out your ass accusations we should just put each other on ignore. I'd rather just skip over the non-sense.

The point is that there is no objective football reason to conclude anything about this offense and/or keenum's (nor the other 3 clowns QB) fit in this offense. Weak speculation is what you are actually engaged in not football talk.

I never accused of you of anything but making a baseless comment, but then you wanted speculate with no basis...again.

infantrycak
05-30-2014, 01:07 PM
OK thunderkyss, are you telling me that the Texans had a higher grade on Savage than both Garrapolo and Carr ?

Who knows. Other teams have certainly made such claims before. Belichick made that claim about Mallett immediately after drafting him.

xtruroyaltyx
05-30-2014, 01:17 PM
I've talked with people who say they've had conversations with their grilled cheese sandwiches. Doesn't mean they are typical of any normal conversation.


Ok.

badboy
05-30-2014, 01:19 PM
What stands out to me is the system gets the ball out of QB's hands into play makers'. Reminds me of the football we played before and after school in Junior high. Bunch of kids lining up either side of ball and just letting go. Blocking was minimal so QB had to pass quickly. No running game allowed though; made it interesting.

My concern is that the "play maker" has to get free and then catch the ball. We should be good with AJ, Hopkins and the TEs.

xtruroyaltyx
05-30-2014, 01:22 PM
The point is that there is no objective football reason to conclude anything about this offense and/or keenum's (nor the other 3 clowns QB) fit in this offense. Weak speculation is what you are actually engaged in not football talk.

I never accused of you of anything but making a baseless comment, but then you wanted speculate with no basis...again.




Sorry I formulated an opinion based on the info that I've read/heard so far. I won't do it anymore. Nor will I make comments about discussions I've had with people I've talked to in the past for Caks sake.


Really...some of y'all need to pull the stick out your ass. Y'all are in such a rush to be an idiot that you write asinine, nonsensical posts such as the ones above.

Number19
05-30-2014, 01:25 PM
...In this offense, the QB can make the read and if he sees a matchup he likes, he can make a specific call for a specific receiver. Or he can change a whole group of receivers' routes by calling a package on one side or the other.

This way allows the QB much more freedom...Nice quote in the Chronicle this morning by T.J. : "It's an awesome offense. The quarterback is in complete control of everything. We're setting the protection. We're setting the fronts, getting guys in the right places. It lets you be the leader out there - that's for sure. You have lots of freedom, lots of options."

Number19
05-30-2014, 01:30 PM
What stands out to me is the system gets the ball out of QB's hands into play makers'. Reminds me of the football we played before and after school in Junior high. Bunch of kids lining up either side of ball and just letting go. Blocking was minimal so QB had to pass quickly. No running game allowed though; made it interesting.

My concern is that the "play maker" has to get free and then catch the ball. We should be good with AJ, Hopkins and the TEs.It seems the one receiver that has drawn specific praise from OB has been DeVier Posey, who was singled out as having made a good impression this first week.

xtruroyaltyx
05-30-2014, 01:32 PM
Nice quote in the Chronicle this morning by T.J. : "It's an awesome offense. The quarterback is in complete control of everything. We're setting the protection. We're setting the fronts, getting guys in the right places. It lets you be the leader out there - that's for sure. You have lots of freedom, lots of options."

I think with the way football has evolved on the NFL level, you almost have to give your QB's some of that freedom that the current QB's are describing.

Depending on who's under center and how much they can handle....How much the coach wants to give them...But I think the goal should be to put more on their plate...Not limit it.

qqert
05-30-2014, 02:25 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/ZTZ2YPYl.png

EllisUnit
05-30-2014, 02:45 PM
LMAO that is a joke but it is funny as hell

The Pencil Neck
05-30-2014, 03:12 PM
If that's what you thought people were saying, then you were misunderstanding the whole concept.

In Kubiak's offense, you don't have complete freedom as a QB. What you have are options that are supposed to counter whatever the defense was doing. Most of the thinking was on the QB and the receivers didn't have to make a lot of reads (although they did adjust their routes according to some reads). If the defense was going to do X, then the QB had to read that and go to this receiver but if the defense was going to do Y, then the QB had to read that and go to this other receiver. At the line of scrimmage, the QB could make a read and shift to one or two other options.

It was NOT complete freedom and I don't believe anyone ever argued that it was.

In this offense, the QB can make the read and if he sees a matchup he likes, he can make a specific call for a specific receiver. Or he can change a whole group of receivers' routes by calling a package on one side or the other.

This way allows the QB much more freedom. But it's still different from some other approaches where the coaches send in a package and the QB has a palette of options based off of it or even access to the whole playbook.

Actually, this line is wrong. My bad.

:mariopalm:

This offense doesn't call out specific receivers and tell them the route. The QB will have to make a call out to change what all the receivers on that side are going to do. At least, that's what I got from the "concepts" concept.

CloakNNNdagger
05-30-2014, 03:51 PM
Some more about the special footballs the RBs are using that I mentioned earlier.

RBs using blue-sleeved footballs

Ball security is top priority for the Texans running backs, especially with the new blue sleeves covering each football. Second-year back Dennis Johnson, using this tactic for the first time, described the blue fabric as “slippery.”

“That will help you hold onto the ball,” Johnson said. “It will help you think about it more.”

The silky covering makes the ball harder to grip and players must concentrate on keeping the ball locked in while they run. This week, the running backs used this exercise during individual drills in OTAs. To further reinforce this lesson, players who drop the ball will take an extra lap around the field.

Other NFL teams have also been incorporating the slippery sleeves in OTAs to practice ball security.

VIDEOS in link (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/RBs-using-blue-sleeved-footballs/2047e53e-a852-4cc5-8fc2-2affba8b78ef)

76Texan
05-30-2014, 03:55 PM
I believe it's going to be fast paced.

I think Keenum excels in that kind of offense where he doesn't have to hold onto the ball.

I think it's tailor made for him because I think he excels moving at a faster pace, getting the ball out quick and making pre snap reads. I think Case is smart and will perform better with more freedom to take advantage of things he sees.

I don't know much about Fitz...I haven't seen Yates do it much and Savage is pretty unknown to me....

I've seen a lot of Case playing football though and I believe this offensive style suits him well.

Doesn't mean I think he'll succeed. Just because you are in a scheme that fits you doesn't mean you're good enough.
I agree with this.

That uptempo style fits very well with Case since he's used to it at UH.

Yates operated an exact copy of Kubiak 's WCO in college.

Fitzpatrick probably have seen his shares through the year.

I also agree that it does 5 mean Keenum still has to play quite better than last year to win the j9b.
I think he can, but be might not give me the results I like to see.

I think the Texans can make the playoffs with Fitz.
If Savage can keep improving on his game, it wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit.

I'd rather not see the Texans draft another QB any time soon.

leebigeztx
05-30-2014, 04:37 PM
What stands out to me is the system gets the ball out of QB's hands into play makers'. Reminds me of the football we played before and after school in Junior high. Bunch of kids lining up either side of ball and just letting go. Blocking was minimal so QB had to pass quickly. No running game allowed though; made it interesting.

My concern is that the "play maker" has to get free and then catch the ball. We should be good with AJ, Hopkins and the TEs.

Out quick=shorter routes. What playmakers are you talking about? People can blow up the concept of offense all they want, but I bet you will see a better flacco than we've ever seen. If kubes can turn schaub into a probowl caliber qb, flacco will be even higher. Not only that, the ravens off will look much different than texans. Flacco routes will look alot different thanbthe routes schaub could disply.

Im not hating on OB and the qbs bashing the kubiak offense,im just saying to his fault,kubes shouldve drafted a qb capable of running his whole playbook. OB offense had success for the same reason mcdaniels offense and weiss offense had succes,brady. Kubes and his simpleton offense turned plummer,, griese,and schaub into pro bowlers. I wont even bring elway into the discussion. Ask elway, and he managed to make plays and win big without the so called freedoms everyone is ramping up.

76Texan
05-30-2014, 04:43 PM
Out quick=shorter routes. What playmakers are you talking about? People can blow up the concept of offense all they want, but I bet you will see a better flacco than we've ever seen. If kubes can turn schaub into a probowl caliber qb, flacco will be even higher. Not only that, the ravens off will look much different than texans. Flacco routes will look alot different thanbthe routes schaub could disply.

Im not hating on OB and the qbs bashing the kubiak offense,im just saying to his fault,kubes shouldve drafted a qb capable of running his whole playbook. OB offense had success for the same reason mcdaniels offense and weiss offense had succes,brady. Kubes and his simpleton offense turned plummer,, griese,and schaub into pro bowlers. I wont even bring elway into the discussion. Ask elway, and he managed to make plays and win big without the so called freedoms everyone is ramping up.

Yes, but Elway had Terrell Davis.

leebigeztx
05-30-2014, 04:45 PM
I agree with this.

That uptempo style fits very well with Case since he's used to it at UH.

Yates operated an exact copy of Kubiak 's WCO in college.

Fitzpatrick probably have seen his shares through the year.

I also agree that it does 5 mean Keenum still has to play quite better than last year to win the j9b.
I think he can, but be might not give me the results I like to see.

I think the Texans can make the playoffs with Fitz.
If Savage can keep improving on his game, it wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit.

I'd rather not see the Texans draft another QB any time soon.

Other than being blinded by texans fandom, what gives you the idea the texans can make the playoffs with fitz? Titans had as much talent as texans this year and played like a playoff team with locker in. Locker goes out, in comes fitz and he started playing double agent again. Fitz is garbage and has been. Id rather see any of the others before fitz. If its close,might as well throw savage in and get the pains out the way. Meanwhile, colts guy is getting better and adding distance between them and rest of the division. Sounds familiar?

76Texan
05-30-2014, 04:55 PM
Other than being blinded by texans fandom, what gives you the idea the texans can make the playoffs with fitz? Titans had as much talent as texans this year and played like a playoff team with locker in. Locker goes out, in comes fitz and he started playing double agent again. Fitz is garbage and has been. Id rather see any of the others before fitz. If its close,might as well throw savage in and get the pains out the way. Meanwhile, colts guy is getting better and adding distance between them and rest of the division. Sounds familiar?

Because the Texans defense is supposed to be very good and the schedule is light.
We have 3 running backs that are capable.
Our Line wasn't terrible in the running game if we only had the RBS healthy.
Brooks, Jones, and Newton have another year under their belt.

Newton is supposed to be healthy, and if somebody beats him out, it can only be better.

We have more options in the return game.
With more team speed, the ST coverage should improve.

More experiences and ability in offensive weapons, to name a few reasons.

badboy
05-30-2014, 04:58 PM
It seems the one receiver that has drawn specific praise from OB has been DeVier Posey, who was singled out as having made a good impression this first week.

good to hear as he needs to have good preseason imo

76Texan
05-30-2014, 05:02 PM
It seems the one receiver that has drawn specific praise from OB has been DeVier Posey, who was singled out as having made a good impression this first week.

Good to hear.
We sure can use his speed.

leebigeztx
05-30-2014, 05:09 PM
Yes, but Elway had Terrell Davis.

Who was davis before elway and after elway? Im saying, until he proved it, davis didnt see 8 man boxes. Even after he proved it, he still didnt see 8 man boxes with sharpe,smith,and mccaffrey on the field. Elway took scrubs to the sb 3 times prior. No doubt having a runngame late in his career,but elway was the engine. The point I was making is kubes/shanny rigid structure has proven to work on every level. As I said, plummer,griese,and schaub had pro bowl years under this structure. OB has done nothing without brady. Mcdaniels was supposed to be a offensive guru also,but what happened without brady?

76Texan
05-30-2014, 05:24 PM
Who was davis before elway and after elway? Im saying, until he proved it, davis didnt see 8 man boxes. Even after he proved it, he still didnt see 8 man boxes with sharpe,smith,and mccaffrey on the field. Elway took scrubs to the sb 3 times prior. No doubt having a runngame late in his career,but elway was the engine. The point I was making is kubes/shanny rigid structure has proven to work on every level. As I said, plummer,griese,and schaub had pro bowl years under this structure. OB has done nothing without brady. Mcdaniels was supposed to be a offensive guru also,but what happened without brady?

I did say yes earlier.
I only added "but".

Look at Davis' numbers during their 2 SB playoffs march.
There's no way defense didn't try to stop him.

infantrycak
05-30-2014, 05:43 PM
Yes, but Elway had Terrell Davis.

Elway was a HoF QB without Davis. Davis helped the team get over the SB hump.

thunderkyss
05-30-2014, 05:54 PM
Ask elway, and he managed to make plays and win big without the so called freedoms everyone is ramping up.

Agreed. We've seen Kubiak's offense put up some big numbers without elite talent (when Andre was hurt & we had no running game).

Put an elite QB in Kubiak's system, someone with elite talent (I think Schaub had an elite football mind) & it's better than most.

drs23
05-30-2014, 06:46 PM
I think with the way football has evolved on the NFL level, you almost have to give your QB's some of that freedom that the current QB's are describing.

Depending on who's under center and how much they can handle....How much the coach wants to give them...But I think the goal should be to put more on their plate...Not limit it.

Yeah, I've been thinking about that for a while. Wondering how well that's gonna float in Balty.

Guess we'll find out in a few months.

drs23
05-30-2014, 06:52 PM
I also agree that it does 5 mean Keenum still has to play quite better than last year to win the j9b.

Whut? :thinking:

Came up empty.

So, whut??

maddogmrb
05-30-2014, 07:06 PM
So when is the next round of OTAs scheduled?

The Pencil Neck
05-30-2014, 07:08 PM
So when is the next round of OTAs scheduled?

June 2, 3, 5, 9, 10, 12, 13

thunderkyss
05-30-2014, 08:38 PM
Whut? :thinking:

Came up empty.

So, whut??

fat fingers on an iphone.


:kitten:

76Texan
05-30-2014, 09:06 PM
Whut? :thinking:

Came up empty.

So, whut??

I have no idea what I was saying either. :smiliedance:

leebigeztx
05-31-2014, 01:58 AM
I think with the way football has evolved on the NFL level, you almost have to give your QB's some of that freedom that the current QB's are describing.

Depending on who's under center and how much they can handle....How much the coach wants to give them...But I think the goal should be to put more on their plate...Not limit it.

You know,there is a reason manning has struggled in the playoffs. I know people and tv heads want to think of him as a computer and that's fine. In the playoffs vs top tier talent,there is a dc who's only job is to make the qb do something he doesn't want to do. I think the coaches of manning and not forcing him to run certain plays has hurt them in the playoffs. We don't have to use seattle and what they did,go back to the saints superbowl and that pick six. Tracy Porter said,just as the seahwaks said, if you give manning a certain look,he's bailing out on a play. Now to his credit,during the regular season and the lack of playoff intensity and game planning,he's been great. I mean shotgun run doesn't mean you have a running game. There isn't anything wrong with establishing a run game despite a 7 man box. Peyton sees a 7 man box,he checks to a pass. Then his teams play a team like seattle who doesn't really 8 box and you see 8 rushing attempts.

The nfl is evolving,no doubt,but that doesn't mean the qb shouldntt run what the oc called. If that's the case, why have an oc? We heard when payton was suspended for the year,brees is like a coach,he will be ok. Brees went on to have a career high in picks and the team won 7 games. Coaching,playcalling,and gameplans matter. Kubes as a oc and head coach has put up some great numbers despite avg qbs,resurrection projects and such. Every play called is designed to work,maybe not to go for a td,but to gain positive yards. Kubes system works,we know this and I don't know why people want to act like it don't. Every play under kubes system has a built in audible. After the seattle pick six, a lot of them was talking about how they knew what play was coming based on their gameplan. That may be true,no nfl team is fooled by the other team. Its about the players,not the plays. I guess seattle knew what plays the texans were running when they dropped 500 yds of offense on them,right. The sherman pick six was a familar play that the texans ran the previous week with better results and different people. All schaub had to do is throw the post to andre. Just like vs the titans he had hopkins on a 9 route probably for a td vs throwing to the sticks.

thunderkyss
05-31-2014, 03:18 AM
You know,there is a reason manning has struggled in the playoffs.

Good post & I agree. He's too close to what's going on. An OC who doesn't have the emotional involvement Peyton has, a bit of objectivity (if you will) would help Peyton in the post season.

But just like you don't want to turn Michael Vick into Dan Marino, I'm not saying take the offense out of Peyton's hands, just give a little more weight to the OC & what he's trying to establish. Like you said, every play is designed to succeed. Not necessarily a touchdown, but to get the defense thinking & reacting a certain way.

ObsiWan
05-31-2014, 07:36 AM
I think with the way football has evolved on the NFL level, you almost have to give your QB's some of that freedom that the current QB's are describing.

Depending on who's under center and how much they can handle....How much the coach wants to give them...But I think the goal should be to put more on their plate...Not limit it.

You mean go back to the days when guys like this
http://www.mmbolding.com/BSR/pq70unitas.jpg

actually ran the huddle and called all the plays

But who do we have that is mentally ready for that responsibility?

xtruroyaltyx
05-31-2014, 10:01 AM
You know,there is a reason manning has struggled in the playoffs. I know people and tv heads want to think of him as a computer and that's fine. In the playoffs vs top tier talent,there is a dc who's only job is to make the qb do something he doesn't want to do. I think the coaches of manning and not forcing him to run certain plays has hurt them in the playoffs. We don't have to use seattle and what they did,go back to the saints superbowl and that pick six. Tracy Porter said,just as the seahwaks said, if you give manning a certain look,he's bailing out on a play. Now to his credit,during the regular season and the lack of playoff intensity and game planning,he's been great. I mean shotgun run doesn't mean you have a running game. There isn't anything wrong with establishing a run game despite a 7 man box. Peyton sees a 7 man box,he checks to a pass. Then his teams play a team like seattle who doesn't really 8 box and you see 8 rushing attempts.

The nfl is evolving,no doubt,but that doesn't mean the qb shouldntt run what the oc called. If that's the case, why have an oc? We heard when payton was suspended for the year,brees is like a coach,he will be ok. Brees went on to have a career high in picks and the team won 7 games. Coaching,playcalling,and gameplans matter. Kubes as a oc and head coach has put up some great numbers despite avg qbs,resurrection projects and such. Every play called is designed to work,maybe not to go for a td,but to gain positive yards. Kubes system works,we know this and I don't know why people want to act like it don't. Every play under kubes system has a built in audible. After the seattle pick six, a lot of them was talking about how they knew what play was coming based on their gameplan. That may be true,no nfl team is fooled by the other team. Its about the players,not the plays. I guess seattle knew what plays the texans were running when they dropped 500 yds of offense on them,right. The sherman pick six was a familar play that the texans ran the previous week with better results and different people. All schaub had to do is throw the post to andre. Just like vs the titans he had hopkins on a 9 route probably for a td vs throwing to the sticks.


Manning has gotten to three superbowls and has won one.

I'd love to have those kind if struggles.

I don't really agree with your manning premise, but there is a lot of gray area. It's not just about what an OC calls during a game. The prep during the week...over the course of the year...over the course of a career.

Almost every qb has some struggles at some point. I don't know that manning has more success with less control at the LOS. I could argue that he may have less success. That broncos team probably doesn't even make the superbowl if not for manning.

Yeah manning has struggled, but he's also had a bunch of success and against some good defensive teams...good defensive coaches.

But like I said...I'd love to have those kinds of struggles on a yearly basis.

Besides, I think it's more about great defense mostly trumping great offense than it is about manning having too much control. That's not just a manning thing.

mussop
05-31-2014, 11:02 AM
Manning has gotten to three superbowls and has won one.

I'd love to have those kind if struggles.

I don't really agree with your manning premise, but there is a lot of gray area. It's not just about what an OC calls during a game. The prep during the week...over the course of the year...over the course of a career.

Almost every qb has some struggles at some point. I don't know that manning has more success with less control at the LOS. I could argue that he may have less success. That broncos team doesn't even make the superbowl if not for manning.

Yeah manning has struggled, but he's also had a bunch of success and against some good defensive teams...good defensive coaches.

But like I said...I'd love to have those kinds of struggles on a yearly basis.

Besides, I think it's more about great defense mostly trumping great offense than it is about manning having too much control. That's not just a manning thing.

fify

maddogmrb
05-31-2014, 11:04 AM
June 2, 3, 5, 9, 10, 12, 13

Thanks! Gonna be interesting.

maddogmrb
05-31-2014, 11:10 AM
You mean go back to the days when guys like this
http://www.mmbolding.com/BSR/pq70unitas.jpg

actually ran the huddle and called all the plays

But who do we have that is mentally ready for that responsibility?


I remember going to a pre-season game back when there was AFL/NFL and the Colts were the class of the NFL and they came to Houston to play. Unitas played a little in the first half and then they took him out. Late in the 4th the Oilers were ahead by less than a TD. Everybody was excited that the AFL Oilers were going to beat the class of the NFL! The Colts got the ball with less than 2 minutes to go and they put Unitas in the game and it was all over baby! He took them down the field like taking candy from a baby. Yes, it was pre-season but you could just see that Unitas was truly a master and one of the greatest.

drs23
05-31-2014, 01:21 PM
fat fingers on an iphone.:kitten:

That's the exact reason I keep mine restricted to a keyboard. That and I don't want a phone smarter than me. :D I'm still rolling my old flipper, she's a trooper. :D

I have no idea what I was saying either. :smiliedance:

Allrightythen. I feel better now....

Heath Shuler
05-31-2014, 02:21 PM
Shooting the Bull: First week of OTAs

http://www.csnhouston.com/football-houston-texans/talk/shooting-bull-first-week-otas

"hands on teaching style"

steelbtexan
05-31-2014, 02:25 PM
You mean go back to the days when guys like this
http://www.mmbolding.com/BSR/pq70unitas.jpg

actually ran the huddle and called all the plays

But who do we have that is mentally ready for that responsibility?

Great pic

Those were the days that the QB was the toughest guy on the team and had the most responsibility.

leebigeztx
05-31-2014, 02:44 PM
Manning has gotten to three superbowls and has won one.

I'd love to have those kind if struggles.

I don't really agree with your manning premise, but there is a lot of gray area. It's not just about what an OC calls during a game. The prep during the week...over the course of the year...over the course of a career.

Almost every qb has some struggles at some point. I don't know that manning has more success with less control at the LOS. I could argue that he may have less success. That broncos team probably doesn't even make the superbowl if not for manning.

Yeah manning has struggled, but he's also had a bunch of success and against some good defensive teams...good defensive coaches.

But like I said...I'd love to have those kinds of struggles on a yearly basis.

Besides, I think it's more about great defense mostly trumping great offense than it is about manning having too much control. That's not just a manning thing.

I never said he wasn't a great qb, I just said he's been avg to below in playoffs. He's .500 in the playoffs and a lot of those games he didn't play well. Last yr,if not for holiday,they weren't even in that game offensively. Think about all the one and outs with homefield advantage. Let me get back on track about the kubes bashing and so called lack of control.

If its 2nd and 7 and kubes calls a zone stretch right,but the defense flashes an 8th guy,is that a dead play? A lot of qbs want to say and we see guys audible out. If you look at nfl and I know you do,most long run come vs 8 man boxes. So the built in audible might be to flip it depending on the safety. Ultimately and most successful offenses, the plays look the same the action on the stretch looks the same as the action for the deep in to andre. The 1 false step creates the hole. If the qb doesn't run the setup plays, it makes it very,very difficult to play well vs good defenses. Romo had control, he audibled vs jets and threw a pick. Having some rigidness and principles isn't a bad thing. Again, manning really only runs the ball vs 6 man boxes. 1st play of superbowl,audibles,hands and arms,ball goes over his head. What was so wrong the 1st play the oc installed 2 weeks ago.

xtruroyaltyx
05-31-2014, 07:11 PM
I never said he wasn't a great qb, I just said he's been avg to below in playoffs. He's .500 in the playoffs and a lot of those games he didn't play well. Last yr,if not for holiday,they weren't even in that game offensively. Think about all the one and outs with homefield advantage. Let me get back on track about the kubes bashing and so called lack of control.

If its 2nd and 7 and kubes calls a zone stretch right,but the defense flashes an 8th guy,is that a dead play? A lot of qbs want to say and we see guys audible out. If you look at nfl and I know you do,most long run come vs 8 man boxes. So the built in audible might be to flip it depending on the safety. Ultimately and most successful offenses, the plays look the same the action on the stretch looks the same as the action for the deep in to andre. The 1 false step creates the hole. If the qb doesn't run the setup plays, it makes it very,very difficult to play well vs good defenses. Romo had control, he audibled vs jets and threw a pick. Having some rigidness and principles isn't a bad thing. Again, manning really only runs the ball vs 6 man boxes. 1st play of superbowl,audibles,hands and arms,ball goes over his head. What was so wrong the 1st play the oc installed 2 weeks ago.


Like I said, there is a lot of gray area. I disagree that the reason manning has had some struggles in the play offs is because he has so much control. The OC goes into it knowing what manning is going to do. If he makes a bad adjustment, that's on the OC to get with him and let him know what he should have done.

They install a game plan during the week. Unless manning is going out there and scrapping the game plan and going rogue then I don't think it's manning vs the OC. A lot if the adjustments he makes, I'm sure the OC is in the same page.

Like I said, qb's struggle. I disagree that any struggles manning have had are because he has too much control.

And you're giving me his record, but it's a team game. Did their offense play well in some of those games but they still lost? I'm sure of it.

We can just agree to disagree. No biggie.

AndyWin
06-02-2014, 12:07 AM
Is it worth it to go to OTAs as a fan? If so, are there tickets?

xtruroyaltyx
06-02-2014, 12:33 AM
Training camp.

And yes, if you can go and can stand the large crowds that show up now it's a cool experience.

I've gone in the past without showing a ticket, but I wouldn't chance it now seeing as how packed they have become.

I remember going a few years ago, arriving late, and having no trouble finding a spot on the bleachers. Good luck with that now.

Wolf6151
06-02-2014, 01:03 AM
Is it worth it to go to OTAs as a fan? If so, are there tickets?

I went once last year with my daughter and her best friend and none of us liked it. The crowds are huge so good luck being able to actually see anything, and it's extremely hot and humid even early in the morning so your going to be sweating alot. Unless your 6'06" and can see over everyone else, your view will be the back of someone else's sweaty head unless your very quick and lucky enough to get a fence spot.

HOU-TEX
06-02-2014, 10:07 AM
Training camp.

And yes, if you can go and can stand the large crowds that show up now it's a cool experience.

I've gone in the past without showing a ticket, but I wouldn't chance it now seeing as how packed they have become.

I remember going a few years ago, arriving late, and having no trouble finding a spot on the bleachers. Good luck with that now.

Yup, the crowds are ridiculous. I went darn near every year up until '12. After the 1st playoff run it got bad. I went once in '12 and said never again. They should move open practices into the stadium or something

xtruroyaltyx
06-02-2014, 10:21 AM
Yup, the crowds are ridiculous. I went darn near every year up until '12. After the 1st playoff run it got bad. I went once in '12 and said never again. They should move open practices into the stadium or something

That would be cool.

I don't think I've been back since '12 either.

I'm glad that their is more support for the team....But I miss the old days when you could go and actually move around a little.

Last time I went it was ridiculous...But I did still enjoy seeing the guys work up close....

I would definitely go back if it weren't so crowded these days.

ObsiWan
06-02-2014, 11:59 AM
Yup, the crowds are ridiculous. I went darn near every year up until '12. After the 1st playoff run it got bad. I went once in '12 and said never again. They should move open practices into the stadium or something

Since we were an abject failure last season - and we didn't draft Johnny Football - I wonder if the crowds will really be so bad this time around....

Since we sucked, maybe all the bandwagoners will stay home.

Playoffs
06-02-2014, 01:16 PM
"... We try to stay on an installation schedule (http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-texans/post/_/id/5824/the-texans-offseason-installation-schedule?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter) based on field position or situational football or whatever it might be. So there’s kind of a theme for each day."

Following is the schedule, as laid out by O'Brien today:

Week 1 of organized team activities (last week): First and second down
Week 2 of OTAs (this week): First, second and third down. Being backed up. Red zone. They'll work on five-man protections against different blitzes.
Week 3 of OTAs (next week): More red zone. Two-minute offense, four-minute offense. [With officials.]
Mandatory minicamp: Everything they've learned during the voluntary portions put together.



Drew Dougherty @DoughertyDrew
"Taking mental reps and helping the younger guys."- O'Brien on main things #Texans LB Brian Cushing is doing now.

"That position's coming along pretty well."- O'Brien, w/o getting specific, on the #Texans Slot WR spot.

O'Brien: last week was installation of 1st, 2nd down plays. This week it's more situational plays on those downs. #Texans [3rd downs, different protection schemes & blitizing, red zone]

"Line of scrimmage penalties: we can't tolerate those."- #Texans HC Bill O'Brien on being more disciplined.

Deepi Sidhu @DeepSlant
DT Louis Nix dealing with something right now but O'Brien doesn't elaborate. Says it's nothing major and he'll be ok. #Texans

QB coach George Godsey had expressed an interest in coaching years ago to O'Brien. OB coached him at Georgia Tech. #Texans

O'Brien: Savage and Clowney will have some catching up to do after being away at NFL-mandated rookie premiere last week. #Texans

O'Brien will bring in officials next week to Week 3 of OTAs. Working on being more disciplined. Red zone, 2-min to be worked on next week.

O'Brien feels team is on track so will continue to implement same playbook installation schedule. #Texans

Bill O'Brien likes the intensity of the team: All the dift situations we worked today, guys are competing. #Texans
Brian T. Smith @ChronBrianSmith
[Former Giants RB] Andre Brown says [about] Texans? "I just love the ambiance of this whole organization right now."

#Texans' O'Brien said kick return jobs are "wide open." Competition will increase during training camp. #NFL

#Texans' Brian Cushing will be back for training camp, O'Brien said.

O'Brien said Savage, Clowney are behind because of rookie meeting but it's "not their fault." #NFL

#Texans focusing on third-down situations, red zone, offense being backed up, blitzes this week. #NFL

#Texans will bring in officials next week to referee OTAs. #NFL

#Texans have remained on planned installation schedule, O'Brien said. #NFL
Dave Zangaro @DZangaro

Well, O'Brien says Louis Nix is "dealing with something" injury-wise. Also says it's "not life-threatening" so there's that. #Texans

O'Brien said after evaluating last week of practice they determined they could stay on same installation schedule. #Texans

O'Brien said he thought the intensity was good today after the weekend off. #Texans
Greg Bailey @GregBailey13
#Texans O'Brien: Cushing a great team guy. Getting mental reps as he watches practice. He will be ready for training camp.

#Texans O'Brien: tight ends have ability to play different roles in our offense. They will all play special teams. Flexibility is key.

#Texans O'Brien: not their fault but rookies Clowney and Savage are behind after rookie weekend deal. They need to catch up. Not their fault

#Texans Coach: we will stick with installation schedule and try to put it all together the last part of June. Kind of a measuring stick.

#Texans O'Brien: we cannot tolerate line of scrimmage penalties. We will bring in officials to practice. Coach not upset so far. Just aware.

#Texans coach O'Brien: guys came back from the weekend with good intensity. Players picking it up well. Stick with the plan.
PDS ‏@PatDStat
Texans much more intense to start the week. Can tell the team is understanding what O'Brien is asking from them.

O'Brien is pleased with the slot wide receiver position. Say some separating but would not mention anyone in particular.

Observation of the Day: (http://www.csnhouston.com/football-houston-texans/talk/ota-day-4-notes-installation-cushing-returners) Shane Lechler appears to be in mid-season form already. He blasted what looked to be about a 65-to-70-yard punt on Monday.

:logo:

Wolf6151
06-02-2014, 02:35 PM
Why isn't Cushing practicing with the team, didn't Doctors release him several weeks ago? Sorry if this has already been asked and answered, but I obviously missed it. Thanks.

BullNation4Life
06-02-2014, 02:40 PM
Texans playlist today: Rihanna, Pearl Jam, Darius Rucker, Macklemore, Swedish House, Fuel.

I recognize Pearl Jam. Who are these people?

You don't recognize Hootie without his Blowfish?

badboy
06-02-2014, 06:13 PM
Cushing and I have something sorta in common.

#Texans O'Brien: Cushing a great team guy. Getting mental reps as he watches practice. He will be ready for training camp.


and Badboy: getting sexual mental reps and is ready now. Not a team player.

Playoffs
06-02-2014, 06:42 PM
1st Look video: Texans on Monday (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/1st-Look-Texans-on-Monday/2fcd1073-6a22-4f06-8183-225312fc4f56)

SOTT: Day Four Review (http://www.stateofthetexans.com/blog/2014/06/02/texans-otas-day-4-review-building-blocks/)


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mussop
06-02-2014, 10:04 PM
Cushing and I have something sorta in common.

#Texans O'Brien: Cushing a great team guy. Getting mental reps as he watches practice. He will be ready for training camp.


and Badboy: getting sexual mental reps and is ready now. Not a team player.

:backsout:

badboy
06-02-2014, 10:58 PM
:backsout:
:cjeremy635:

ObsiWan
06-03-2014, 11:33 AM
and now boys and girls, here we see Fitzy taking the center snap from #1 OC, Chris Myers...

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140529_texans_otas_btc_32.jpg

And here we see Fitzy handing off to #1RB Arian Foster
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140529_texans_otas_btc_33.jpg

Anyone still wondering who's the #1 QB on the depth chart at this stage of the camp?
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/cool.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

ObsiWan
06-03-2014, 11:40 AM
of course, it could be this #7 guy...
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140529_texans_otas_btc_46.jpg

xtruroyaltyx
06-03-2014, 11:42 AM
OB said he was going to give all the guys reps with all groups during OTA's....

Playoffs
06-03-2014, 11:42 AM
Marc Vandermeer ‏@TexansVoice
HUGE Texans All Access JJ Watt, DJ Swearinger, DeAndre Hopkins noon-2pm @jharrisfootball http://TexansRadio.com @SportsRadio610

Playoffs
06-03-2014, 12:48 PM
Stephanie Stradley @StephStradley
CB Kareem Jackson on #Texans D was interesting. Saying less man means less time with back to QB, less reactive. More opportunity for disguise of D.
Tania Ganguli @taniaganguli
Jackson also said his agent and the #Texans have not talked about his contract yet. 2014 is the final year of his rookie deal.

Kareem Jackson said there's more opportunity for disguising in this defense and corners aren't "sitting ducks." #Texans
James Palmer @JPalmerCSN
O’Brien stresses that a receiver that is lining up inside be quicker rather than fast and have a great knowledge of reading D after huddle

O’Brien along with Rick Smith are currently discussing and evaluating every aspect of the organization. Nutrition being very important.

Talking about the importance of RBs catching the ball in his system, O’Brien mentioned previous backs that have been used as receivers.

Arian Foster has good hands and instincts and also really enjoys being in the passing game. All make him good in pass game. #Texans
Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein
I’m enjoying watching the tempo the Texans practice at under O’Brien & the way the bounce from drill to drill. Some good, hard coaching too

Returners fielding balls with boxing gloveshttp://iconizer.net/files/Brilliant/thumb/128/boxing_gloves.pngon while coaches throw big green bouncy ballshttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z120/emjaym_photos/animated%20gifs/ball11.gifat them to force them to focus today. -- Texans All Access/610AM
Brian T. Smith @ChronBrianSmith
#Texans' Keshawn Martin welcomes the competition at returner. Said it'll make him better. Added strength during offseason. Up to 200 pounds.

Big 80s rock vibe today on the BO'B iPod. Someone got into a Journey with/without Steve Perry convo. Tough practice.

PDS ‏@PatDStat
Tuggle feels good to be in one position this year. Last season was flipped from inside or outside linebacker thought the season. #Texans

Tuggle said him and his father broke down tape as much as they could this offseason which led to some new things to work on. #Texans

Tuggle said he used this summer to get in better football shape. Mentioned his rookie season prep work was all for the combine. #Texans

Justin Tuggle said he has some good resources to discuss ILB play with Mike Vrabel as his coach and his father, Jessie. #Texans

O'Brien mentioned that Arian Foster can fill what Danny Woodhead did for the Patriots. #Texans

Kareem pointed out there is more chance for the DBs to "see the ball." #Texans

Kareem was asked if there is a big difference between Romeo's and Wade's system for the cornerbacks. His answer "Oh yea." #Texans

Houston Texans ‏@HoustonTexans
"Having those guys chasing me makes me better."- #Texans C Chris Myers on Ben Jones, Cody White & Alex Kupper.

CloakNNNdagger
06-03-2014, 01:00 PM
From yesterday's OTAs.

Who is No. 65? Former Nebraska defensive end Jason Ankrah. As I've mentioned before, he's transitioning to a stand up OLB from defensive end. The undrafted Husker continues to make heads turn with his size and ability to grasp on to linebacker coach Mike Vrabel's teaching.

Who is No. 17? That one's EZ.

Literally.

Former Aggie product EZ Nwachukwu returned to practice after being a bit dinged up last week and continued right where he left off during rookie mini-camp. During a "backed up" drill (practicing plays from back inside your own five yard line), EZ beat a defensive back in man coverage and caught what would have been a 98 yard touchdown bomb. You could then hear how happy he was after he did. Even though he was here last year, people still are asking about him, in particular, after he made that big play during the workout. The thing is that it wasn't his only play to shine.
LINK (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/OTA-Day-4-Observations/3c6c761c-1bb2-4f88-acf4-faa7af9db5dc)

xtruroyaltyx
06-03-2014, 02:10 PM
Kareem Jackson said there's more opportunity for disguising in this defense and corners aren't "sitting ducks." #Texans

Always felt Kareem could benefit from playing more zone. His strength isn't man coverage...He's not terrible at it, but I think Kareem could really have a big year this year under Crennel. The guy is talented, but once again...I don't think we always used players to the best of their abilities.

xtruroyaltyx
06-03-2014, 02:11 PM
From yesterday's OTAs.


LINK (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/OTA-Day-4-Observations/3c6c761c-1bb2-4f88-acf4-faa7af9db5dc)

As O'Brien has said numerous times, these are complex schemes on both sides of the ball and that's for rookies AND vets. Yet after the first play of the drill, Vrabel jumped out of his shoes with praise for his youngest charge for his recoginition and reaction to what the offense had attempted to do to him.
Sure, a linebacker missing a practice and a quarterback missing a practice are two different things, but to see the cerebral football growth this early in a highly touted young man is impressive.


Nice.

AngryNateFTW
06-03-2014, 02:46 PM
Jenny Dial Creech

@jennydialcreech

#Texans OL Chris Myers said he is treating OTAs the same way he treated them when he was a rookie.

The #Texans Keshawn Martin said he likes the competition at punt/kick return position. Says it makes him work even harder.

#Texans coach Bill O'Brien talking about players' nutrition being a priority.

#Texans Chris Myers: "Everyone is working their butts off. It is a new scheme for everybody - offensive, defensive, special teams."

More from Myers: "For me, it is learning from scratch again too. Nine years and this my first time with a whole new offense as well."

O'Brien on Foster: "He’s got really good hand-eye coordination. He is an instinctive player so he has a good idea about how to get open."

Playoffs
06-03-2014, 03:43 PM
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EllisUnit
06-03-2014, 03:45 PM
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http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140602_texansotas_jps_24.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140602_texansotas_jps_30.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140602_texansotas_jps_32.jpg
--chron.com

What the hell is O'Brien doing to Clowneys arm ? Looking for tattoos that give hints to possible murders. New NFL policy implemented due to Hernandez :kitten:

bhsman
06-03-2014, 03:59 PM
I hope Nwachaku makes the team, if only so I can continue to follow him on Twitter. :kitten:

Playoffs
06-03-2014, 04:53 PM
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/06-June/tempDSC_1700--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/06-June/tempDSC_1749--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/06-June/tempDSC_1743--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/06-June/tempDSC_1861--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/06-June/tempDSC_1803--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/06-June/tempDSC_1657--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/06-June/tempDSC_1539--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
--houstontexans.com

kiwitexansfan
06-03-2014, 05:06 PM
Hoping Tuggle makes a leap this year focusing on being a ILB.

maddogmrb
06-03-2014, 05:14 PM
1st Look video: Texans on Monday (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/1st-Look-Texans-on-Monday/2fcd1073-6a22-4f06-8183-225312fc4f56)

SOTT: Day Four Review (http://www.stateofthetexans.com/blog/2014/06/02/texans-otas-day-4-review-building-blocks/)


http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140529_texans_otas_btc_41.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140529_texans_otas_btc_40.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140529_texans_otas_btc_42.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140529_texans_otas_btc_47.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140528_texans_otas_btc_27.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140529_texans_otas_btc_51.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/texans-2014-otas/20140529_texans_otas_btc_54.jpg
--chron.com


Interesting observation of pic of Savage and Keenum. It appears that in their throwing motion, Keenum's head and release are as tall as Savage's.

Playoffs
06-03-2014, 05:20 PM
QBs & WRs quick video today: http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/1st-Look-Texans-Tuesday-OTA/dcba3de4-efb6-4153-a713-b91f59c1f5a4

EllisUnit
06-03-2014, 05:54 PM
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/06-June/tempDSC_1700--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/06-June/tempDSC_1749--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/06-June/tempDSC_1743--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/06-June/tempDSC_1861--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/06-June/tempDSC_1803--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/06-June/tempDSC_1657--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/06-June/tempDSC_1539--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
--houstontexans.com

O'brien to KJ "hey remember when you sucked....."

EllisUnit
06-03-2014, 05:57 PM
QBs & WRs quick video today: http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/1st-Look-Texans-Tuesday-OTA/dcba3de4-efb6-4153-a713-b91f59c1f5a4

Fitzmagic dont throw a very pretty ball from that video atleast.

On a side not looks like foster is running really good. No pulled hammy or tight back thus far a good sign for now cause usually its within day 1-2 for him it seems.

kiwitexansfan
06-03-2014, 06:17 PM
Interesting observation of pic of Savage and Keenum. It appears that in their throwing motion, Keenum's head and release are as tall as Savage's.

In that picture the two players are at entirely different points in their motion.

Savage is still loading, Keenum is at release point.

maddogmrb
06-03-2014, 06:41 PM
In that picture the two players are at entirely different points in their motion.

Savage is still loading, Keenum is at release point.


Right but they are at virtually the same height ... also seen in other pics.

EllisUnit
06-03-2014, 06:42 PM
Right but they are at virtually the same height ... also seen in other pics.

Savage 3 inches taller, not a big difference but still

maddogmrb
06-03-2014, 06:59 PM
Savage 3 inches taller, not a big difference but still

Yes, but my point is that when throwing the ball they are virtually standing at the same height and have virtually the same height on their release point.

thunderkyss
06-03-2014, 07:37 PM
Anyone still wondering who's the #1 QB on the depth chart at this stage of the camp?
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/cool.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

No doubt in my mind Fitz was brought in like a dart board. Gives the other guys something to aim at. Our starting QB for 2014 won't be given the job (like Fitz was) it's going to be earned.