PDA

View Full Version : First look at Rookies at Minicamp


CloakNNNdagger
05-16-2014, 03:33 PM
Nice music video collage:

ROOKIE MINICAMP (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/1st-Look-Rookie-minicamp-1/5d296d72-c616-4635-88b0-959fec462154)

CloakNNNdagger
05-16-2014, 03:38 PM
Photos (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/photo-gallery/Rookie-Minicamp-Day-1/66f60bdf-4b7a-4756-a3a6-1c8307d19317#65066dfd-fe2b-4ab1-937c-e5bdf8a27e11) to go with it.

xtruroyaltyx
05-16-2014, 03:49 PM
Open locker room today for rookie camp. Rookies don't get real lockers until they make the roster. Not even the first overall pick. #Texans

Veteran lockers have numbers but no names. Also have "Always put the team first" inside each one. #Texans

"Coach O'Brien knows what's he's doing. The meetings we've had have been intense," new #Texans TE CJ Fiedorowicz
12:17 PM - 16 May 2014

Also QB Tom Savage has to share a locker with another rookie right now. #Texans


Texans NT Louis Nix III: "I'm nobody. I haven't made a tackle. At this point it's Louis Nix, the guy nobody knows.He's trying 2make a squad"
12:32 PM - 16 May 2014

NT Louis Nix III:"We got these bad lockers(4rookies).Once I get on this wall (regular lockers), if I get a chance 2play it might be surreal"

OLB Jadeveon Clowney on message to rookies from Texans coaching staff: "Keep your mouth shut & learn. We don't know what we think we know."

Seeing Jadeveon Clowney move is a sight to see. He ran down Alfred Blue on a swing pass where Blue had a 5 yard head start. #Texans

O'Brien reiterated how much respect he has for Andre and what he has done in this city, Houston. #abc13 #Texans
3:34 PM - 16 May 2014


(I heard the OB comments, and to me it sounds like Andre will be here...JMO)




http://www.battleredblog.com/2014/5/16/5724130/2014-houston-texans-rookie-minicamp-live-blog

Playoffs
05-16-2014, 03:51 PM
There's a new Sheriff in town.

http://www.morethings.com/fan/blazing_saddles/blazing-saddles-480.jpg

Hervoyel
05-16-2014, 03:54 PM
I like it

You know, in OB's world there would be a place for "Letterman Jackets" but it wouldn't be from some guy on the roster who "had an idea". It would be from the guys in charge and you would get one when you got put in whatever will one day pass for the Texans "Ring of Honor". If they happened today under this regime it would be something you got on your way out the door after you earned it.

That was kind of what was wrong I think under Kubiak's rule. The players kind of did what they wanted and the coaches and front office seemed to stand back and admire them instead of running the show. Inmates ran the asylum so to speak. That's over.

xtruroyaltyx
05-16-2014, 04:00 PM
How did they all feel, coming into their first rookie camp, playing with undrafted rookies and tryout players?

Just like their coach expected them to feel.

"We’re behind," said Jadeveon Clowney, the first overall pick in last week's draft. "We came in behind and the other guys got the upper hand on us, so really we have to learn the playbook. ... Keep your mouth shut and learn. We don’t know what we think we know, basically. We got a lot of vets. Hats off to them guys, they’ve been there. We have to learn from them and take it all in."

The rookies were squashed into the middle of the locker room, occupying temporary blue metal lockers away from the walls where veterans get to be. Some, like fourth-round quarterback Tom Savage, have to share a locker.

It's a reminder that they have to earn their way onto the team. They will start that process in a few minutes during their first practice of rookie minicamp.

Defensive tackle Louis Nix III won't even say it's set in stone that he's been drafted onto an NFL team yet.

http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-texans/post/_/id/5624/texans-rookies-trying-to-fall-in-line

xtruroyaltyx
05-16-2014, 04:07 PM
Someone asked OB what he thought about Clowney today.

OB said: "I thought the group looked pretty good"

They asked again, what about Clowney?

OB: "I thought the group looked good"

xtruroyaltyx
05-16-2014, 04:12 PM
PDS @PatDStat
Follow
ILB Max Bullough looks like he shed weight from college. Moving much better than his college film. Looks the part. #Texans
3:18 PM - 16 May 2014



It's easy to see why Tom Savage was well liked by the #Texans. Live arm. Velocity is unmatched by any QB on the roster.

http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5284--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720

PDS @PatDStat
Follow
Savage's most impressive throws were from far hash across the field to receivers in stride outside the numbers. #Texans
3:11 PM - 16 May 2014

http://i.imgur.com/kXEBAxs.jpg?1






http://www.battleredblog.com/2014/5/16/5724130/2014-houston-texans-rookie-minicamp-live-blog

DBCooper
05-16-2014, 04:18 PM
Watching Savage is exciting!

idymoe
05-16-2014, 04:35 PM
.


http://i.imgur.com/kXEBAxs.jpg?1






http://www.battleredblog.com/2014/5/16/5724130/2014-houston-texans-rookie-minicamp-live-blog

What the heck is going on in the upper right corner of this picture? Is that an UFA going all out in a fumble drill? I like his chances of making the team.

xtruroyaltyx
05-16-2014, 04:38 PM
What the heck is going on in the upper right corner of this picture? Is that an UFA going all out in a fumble drill? I like his chances of making the team.

Two suggestions I've seen:

Remote control Rosencopter

Keo being an attention whore

ObsiWan
05-16-2014, 04:43 PM
Someone asked OB what he thought about Clowney today.

OB said: "I thought the group looked pretty good"

They asked again, what about Clowney?

OB: "I thought the group looked good"
There are no individuals on O'Brien's team.
I am Bill-cutus of Borg
Resistance is futile.
Your life has it has been
...is over
From this point forward, you will service
...us.
http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/db_articles/a9284990819635ebb868c33529314dce0fad3dd5.jpg

ObsiWan
05-16-2014, 04:48 PM
My favorite quote so far....
Texans NT Louis Nix III: "I'm nobody. I haven't made a tackle. At this point it's Louis Nix, the guy nobody knows.He's trying 2make a squad"
12:32 PM - 16 May 2014

Damned good attitude.

xtruroyaltyx
05-16-2014, 04:49 PM
Dale Robertson @sportywineguy
Follow
Sweat-drenched JJ Watt has arrived at. rookie practice. Just curious, I suppose.
2:24 PM - 16 May 2014 Houston, TX, United States

Wolf6151
05-16-2014, 04:58 PM
My favorite quote so far....
Texans NT Louis Nix III: "I'm nobody. I haven't made a tackle. At this point it's Louis Nix, the guy nobody knows.He's trying 2make a squad"
12:32 PM - 16 May 2014

Damned good attitude.

My thoughts exactly. This is what you want to see in a rookie.

PapaL
05-16-2014, 05:16 PM
Times are changing and it feels good. Do your talking on the field.

JJ was probably checking out his new partner in crime.

Blake
05-16-2014, 05:17 PM
What the heck is going on in the upper right corner of this picture? Is that an UFA going all out in a fumble drill? I like his chances of making the team.

Smallest NFL player ever going for the JJ SWATT!

Playoffs
05-16-2014, 05:23 PM
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/temp_BB21815--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5549--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5540--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5392--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5729--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5404--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
houstontexans.com

Playoffs
05-16-2014, 05:24 PM
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5370--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5747--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5748--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5775--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5816--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5817--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
houstontexans.com

Playoffs
05-16-2014, 05:24 PM
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5523--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5247--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5261--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5367--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5532--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG
http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5596--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG
houstontexans.com

Goatcheese
05-16-2014, 05:26 PM
Someone asked OB what he thought about Clowney today.

OB said: "I thought the group looked pretty good"

They asked again, what about Clowney?

OB: "I thought the group looked good"

Oh man, people raged about Kubiak being vague with his answers. Their head must be about to explode when BO'B won't give an answer at all.

Errant Hothy
05-16-2014, 05:30 PM
Oh man, people raged about Kubiak being vague with his answers. Their head must be about to explode when BO'B won't give an answer at all.

Ain't it cool?

Playoffs
05-16-2014, 05:47 PM
Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley
Additional beef is evident on nu #Texans roster. You could watch movies on the back of em. IMAX.

Don't like camp hype stuff but Tom Savage's arm is very live. Heavy ball, gets on WRs in a hurry. Windy day didn't seem to matter at all.

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock
Favorite part of #Texans rookie mini-camp day 1 was when JJ Watt came sneaking out the bubble & just watched the rookies from the shadows.

Lastly, one more guy that I mentioned yesterday & looked natural today. OLB Jason Ankrah. Should be quality depth at the OLB spot.

3 prospects that will have every opportunity to be great. Clowney- attention from Vrabel. Savage - attn from O'Brien. Nix-attn from Crennel

JD Clowney engulfs the field w/ every step, so as he develops in coverage, he'll eat up green in strides. Vrabel working him

Don't focus on the part where Clowney's coverage isn't pretty, focus on the beginning stages. Mike Vrabel is in his ear w/ tips every rep.

Odd seeing JD Clowney in a #Texans jersey that wasn't photo shopped on. He's in the beginning stages of learning to cover, it's not pretty.

Max Bullough looks the part. I can't wait to see how his camp progress goes. When they start hitting, he should shine. Looks like an NFL ILB

Watching the focus the #Texans put on developing & studying every mannerism that Savage makes, I'd be surprised if they took reps away.

I was asked yesterday if I thought the #Texans may bring in another arm to rookie mini-camp, after watching today, I've got my answer...

Travis Labhart is precise & catches everything. Even he had to slightly double catch a ball coming off of Savage's arm. #Texans

(Tryout) S Nick Addison seemed to be built more like a receiver on tape & seeing him in person didn't change my opinion on that. #Texans

WR Anthony McClung has a quick ability to elevate & high point, similar to what I saw out of CB AJ Bouye last year.

Tyrone Ezell came off the snap with power as well. (Tryout) Julius Warmsley intrigued me, but I didn't get on him until late.

Austin Brown impressed me more in drills than any other player today.

Two guys that impressed on tape, didn't disappoint in drills. Austin Brown & Tyrone Ezell. Austin Brown is a fluid 295 lbs but pops as well

Keith Browner put on a textbook workout on how to explode low & hit with pop. Kollar's pet to show the rookies how it's done.

Nix routinely came out of his stance too high & attacked pads w/ hands too high. He was using all hip & upper body as well, not butt down.

Watching Bill Kollar w/ the 5 techs & NTs was my favorite part of the day. Louis Nix has a lot of work to do on technique. #Texans

Ballentine(6'3) & (tryout S) Theo Alexander(6'4) made for some huge safeties.

The play of the day came when Tom Savage threw a deep "go" route to (tryout) WR Lacoltan Bester. Ball dropped in to beat Andre Hal. #Texans

Tom Savage impressed me w/ out route anticipation to WRs he hasn't thrown to before. #Texans

Bill O'Brien strikes me as a guy who's not only intelligent, but demands perfection, from a veteran leader all the way down to a tryout kid.

I thought Tom Savage had a very natural & authoritative cadence, until Bill O'Brien stepped under center & gave a call. Carries the line.

Bill O'Brien is definitely taking a hands-on approach with Savage. Literally standing over the ball to watch the C-QB exchange & footwork.

WRs are having to adjust to the velocity of Tom Savage's ball. Lots of double catches today. Ball cut thru a windy day with ease in Houston.

Marcus is very confident in his technique, but opened up outside hip & allowed Anthony McClung to beat him back inside. #Texans

Marcus Williams (#40) is a lot of fun to watch in person. Footwork + hips = perfection. Just like on game film, he opened up too soon, thou.

Couple guys stood out when they walked on the field, due to physical stature. Obviously, Clowney, CJ Fiedorowicz & Bryan Witzmann.

Here's a little info on what I saw at Day 1 of the #Texans mini-camp. Remember, it's just day 1, nerves involved, learning, etc.
:logo:

Vance87
05-16-2014, 06:16 PM
Extended Cut: LB Jadeveon Clowney (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/Extended_Cut_LB_Jadeveon_Clowney/9458d8d1-dc7d-487a-b250-de734badf685)

Apparently he's trying to learn the playbook. :kitten:


You can tell he just wants to get out there and play, and not answer all these questions.

mussop
05-16-2014, 06:32 PM
Extended Cut: LB Jadeveon Clowney (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/Extended_Cut_LB_Jadeveon_Clowney/9458d8d1-dc7d-487a-b250-de734badf685)

Apparently he's trying to learn the playbook. :kitten:


You can tell he just wants to get out there and play, and not answer all these questions.

Omg that was driving me crazy. That was his answer to every question

Malloy
05-16-2014, 06:36 PM
Omg that was driving me crazy. That was his answer to every question

Jup... can't wait until game 1, before that it's all fluff :)

Playoffs
05-16-2014, 06:47 PM
You can tell he just wants to get out there and play, and not answer all these questions.

Omg that was driving me crazy. That was his answer to every question

They're being coached on how to deal with media questions OB's way. They'll all sound the same.

ObsiWan
05-16-2014, 07:09 PM
O'Brien on Savage and Clowney's first practice

"All the rookies looked good... ...blah, blah, blah"

LINK (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/EC-OBrien-on-rookies-first-practice/c59cf048-cac4-4f49-b040-bcba83c3cda7)

EllisUnit
05-16-2014, 07:12 PM
I really like the way Savage looks, i am betting he will be our starter day 1. And i am maybe over confident that he will shine !

ObsiWan
05-16-2014, 07:12 PM
Oh man, people raged about Kubiak being vague with his answers. Their head must be about to explode when BO'B won't give an answer at all.
Yep. Compared to O'Brien, Kubiak blabbed like Edward Snowden

PHILLYTEXANFAN
05-16-2014, 07:47 PM
what is the qb situation?

does everybody start off on equal terms with obrien or is somebody ahead at the depth chart already?

That's my biggest question. I think BoB needs to name a starter, but casually slip in that the job is up for grabs

cstyle42
05-16-2014, 07:51 PM
I like it

You know, in OB's world there would be a place for "Letterman Jackets" but it wouldn't be from some guy on the roster who "had an idea". It would be from the guys in charge and you would get one when you got put in whatever will one day pass for the Texans "Ring of Honor". If they happened today under this regime it would be something you got on your way out the door after you earned it.

That was kind of what was wrong I think under Kubiak's rule. The players kind of did what they wanted and the coaches and front office seemed to stand back and admire them instead of running the show. Inmates ran the asylum so to speak. That's over.

The good old boy system looks like it got burned into pieces along with the number 8 Schaub jersey.

kiwitexansfan
05-16-2014, 07:54 PM
That's my biggest question. I think BoB needs to name a starter, but casually slip in that the job is up for grabs

I disagree. If you name a starter then start undermining that person that doesn't serve anyone.

OB's whole thing seems to be the collective. Naming a starter doesn't serve that.

sbalderrama
05-16-2014, 07:59 PM
maybe wishful thinking but even in photo's Savage looks like the most NFL quarterback the Texans have had.

False Start
05-16-2014, 08:00 PM
I saw a guy wearing number 8 in those pics. He must be cut tomorrow. :cutthroat:

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/J4103V/8.jpg

badboy
05-16-2014, 08:07 PM
watching rookies against rookies is fun but against vets is what I want to hear about. Excited about Savage but I also want to see Fitz and Keenum before crowning King Savage.

Hervoyel
05-16-2014, 08:44 PM
watching rookies against rookies is fun but against vets is what I want to hear about. Excited about Savage but I also want to see Fitz and Keenum before crowning King Savage.

Me too and I'm a Keenum fan but I swear, if Savage beats out Case I'm 100% behind him. If he beats out Fitz (Probably impossible this year, at least going in) then he's an unbelievable steal and we've got something to get excited about.

ObsiWan
05-16-2014, 08:59 PM
I disagree. If you name a starter then start undermining that person that doesn't serve anyone.

OB's whole thing seems to be the collective. Naming a starter doesn't serve that.

I agree. O'Brien will most likely put the guy in, at #1, who shows he knows the playbook the best in the classroom sessions.
And at this early stage who knows who that will be.

DX-TEX
05-16-2014, 10:12 PM
Oh man, people raged about Kubiak being vague with his answers. Their head must be about to explode when BO'B won't give an answer at all.

Ain't it cool?

http://i.imgur.com/bxDuL45.jpg

Just embrace the truth

thunderkyss
05-16-2014, 11:12 PM
(I heard the OB comments, and to me it sounds like Andre will be here...JMO)




http://www.battleredblog.com/2014/5/16/5724130/2014-houston-texans-rookie-minicamp-live-blog

If anything, it's this kind of stuff that would upset me, if I were Andre. Andre is 12 years in & don't need no college coach giving him the "Do it for the Gipper" speech.

ObsiWan
05-17-2014, 12:09 AM
Just embrace the truth

you showed the wrong "hoodie"

here's his real one...

http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/r/rumour-palpatines-appearance-in-star-wars-episode-vii-confirmed-142750-a-1376550736-470-75.jpg

xtruroyaltyx
05-17-2014, 01:26 AM
If anything, it's this kind of stuff that would upset me, if I were Andre. Andre is 12 years in & don't need no college coach giving him the "Do it for the Gipper" speech.

????

Maybe I didn't read something or didn't hear something.

To me it just sounded like he and Dre have talked a few times about the direction of the team and he got positive vibes from Dre. He also said that he wasn't going to speak for Andre and would let him respond to how he's feeling.

I didnt get the impression that ob was trying to sweet talk him or gas him up with a rally speech.

thunderkyss
05-17-2014, 07:17 AM
I didnt get the impression that ob was trying to sweet talk him or gas him up with a rally speech.

I'm not talking about anything OB said to Andre specifically. I'm talking about this whole culture thing that he's bringing. No names, earn your number, competition at every spot, give it the ol college try...

Totally opposite from Kubiak's "handle yourself like a pro" club med training camp.

Regardless which may be what the team needs now, some are going to prefer one over the other. Like I said, Andre's been here 12 years. I have to imagine some of this feels like starting all over.

Thorn
05-17-2014, 07:27 AM
I'm not talking about anything OB said to Andre specifically. I'm talking about this whole culture thing that he's bringing. No names, earn your number, competition at every spot, give it the ol college try...

Totally opposite from Kubiak's "handle yourself like a pro" club med training camp.

Regardless which may be what the team needs now, some are going to prefer one over the other. Like I said, Andre's been here 12 years. I have to imagine some of this feels like starting all over.

Starting over is good for the soul. When I was in my late 40s, I went to night classes and got my Windows NT certification (yes, that's windows NT..LOL ) and got a new position in my company. I don't want to lose AJ, but the new coaching staff is bringing the right philosophy to this team IMO.

PapaL
05-17-2014, 07:34 AM
Starting over is good for the soul. When I was in my late 40s, I went to night classes and got my Windows NT certification (yes, that's windows NT..LOL ) and got a new position in my company. I don't want to lose AJ, but the new coaching staff is bringing the right philosophy to this team IMO.

I agree as well. I do find it odd that the guy that has been the blue collar, say nothing, come to work every day is the one making noise. As far as I'm concerned, he's under contract and should be there for the mandatory things; that goes for all players though not just AJ.

Hervoyel
05-17-2014, 07:42 AM
I'm not talking about anything OB said to Andre specifically. I'm talking about this whole culture thing that he's bringing. No names, earn your number, competition at every spot, give it the ol college try...

Totally opposite from Kubiak's "handle yourself like a pro" club med training camp.

Regardless which may be what the team needs now, some are going to prefer one over the other. Like I said, Andre's been here 12 years. I have to imagine some of this feels like starting all over.

Well, I'd say that Kubiak's "handle yourself like a pro" approach actually worked fine for Andre. He is a pro and has always taken care of his business like one when it came to football so it must suck for him to have to be on a team that's got to go back to this kind of approach in order to get everyone on the same page.

infantrycak
05-17-2014, 07:55 AM
Well, I'd say that Kubiak's "handle yourself like a pro" approach actually worked fine for Andre. He is a pro and has always taken care of his business like one when it came to football so it must suck for him to have to be on a team that's got to go back to this kind of approach in order to get everyone on the same page.

Yup and regardless of being able to see that others may have needed reining in it still feels like undeserved punishment to be thrown into the remedial all is one class when you have been doing your crap correctly the whole time.

thunderkyss
05-17-2014, 08:00 AM
Well, I'd say that Kubiak's "handle yourself like a pro" approach actually worked fine for Andre. He is a pro and has always taken care of his business like one when it came to football so it must suck for him to have to be on a team that's got to go back to this kind of approach in order to get everyone on the same page.

Again, this is just speculation on my part, but the only thing that makes sense... if anything can make sense about this.

He doesn't need to be here till mandatory camp... he is the guy we know him to be, so I have no doubt he'll be there towing the company line. Like the quiet leader he is.

Hervoyel
05-17-2014, 08:14 AM
You know, getting back to the whole "First look at Rookies in Minicamp" subject I just watched some of that video again and I know that it's nothing more than a sizzle-clip to get us excited about the possibilities but I really do like the way this coaching staff looks working with the players.

I know it's a bit of propaganda but I think I'm buying into it.

:koolaid:

Playoffs
05-17-2014, 08:41 AM
...I really do like the way this coaching staff looks working with the players.

I'm right there with you, Herv. Attention to detail, aiming for perfection, lots of energy.

xtruroyaltyx
05-17-2014, 08:43 AM
I'm not talking about anything OB said to Andre specifically. I'm talking about this whole culture thing that he's bringing. No names, earn your number, competition at every spot, give it the ol college try...

Totally opposite from Kubiak's "handle yourself like a pro" club med training camp.

Regardless which may be what the team needs now, some are going to prefer one over the other. Like I said, Andre's been here 12 years. I have to imagine some of this feels like starting all over.

Ok. I see what you're saying.

What I'm hoping is that ob knows that guys like Andre deserve a different level of respect. I have a feeling he gets that because he did comment on Dre specifically whereas other guys like the rookies he's telling them things like shut up and learn and giving them cardboard boxes for lockers (hyperbole).

Hopefully ob, like jimmy Johnson realizes that some guys are going to have to be treated differently than others. But only when you've earned it.

Even with belichick I don't think he treats Brady like an incoming udfa. Different situation since they have rapport but still...

Honoring Earl 34
05-17-2014, 09:03 AM
Ok. I see what you're saying.

What I'm hoping is that ob knows that guys like Andre deserve a different level of respect. I have a feeling he gets that because he did comment on Dre specifically whereas other guys like the rookies he's telling them things like shut up and learn and giving them cardboard boxes for lockers (hyperbole).

Hopefully ob, like jimmy Johnson realizes that some guys are going to have to be treated differently than others. But only when you've earned it.

Even with belichick I don't think he treats Brady like an incoming udfa. Different situation since they have rapport but still...

I get the feeling Bill has lots of layers to him . On the field it's hardcore attention to detail with fanatic zeal . Off the field , Bill has a very sick child which has taught him what's really important . He is a smart , driven man who loves football but realizes it takes support from the homefront . After the Packers won their first championship , Lombardi bought the wives mink coats . That friends is genuis .

ObsiWan
05-17-2014, 09:08 AM
Starting over is good for the soul. When I was in my late 40s, I went to night classes and got my Windows NT certification (yes, that's windows NT..LOL ) and got a new position in my company. I don't want to lose AJ, but the new coaching staff is bringing the right philosophy to this team IMO.I don't.

I don't think of that example as starting over. You added a new (and obviously valuable) skill to the experience base you already had. You went above and beyond and were rewarded for your extra efforts with a new position. You didn't start over, you took your skills to a new level.

CloakNNNdagger
05-17-2014, 09:11 AM
I'm quite content with Nix relating "I'm nobody."


http://demotivationalpost.com/motivators/111110822060/im-nobody.jpg

IDEXAN
05-17-2014, 09:17 AM
I get the feeling Bill has lots of layers to him . On the field it's hardcore attention to detail with fanatic zeal . Off the field , Bill has a very sick child which has taught him what's really important . He is a smart , driven man who loves football but realizes it takes support from the homefront . After the Packers won their first championship , Lombardi bought the wives mink coats . That friends is genuis .
Let me take the liberty of correcting you here just as O'Brien did the Houston media in his initial presser with them when one of its members made reference to the "disease" his child had. O'Brien informed the reporter that it was not a disease/sickness, but it was a neurological disorder called lissencephaly which his son had at birth.

Playoffs
05-17-2014, 09:21 AM
Louis Nix (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-Texans-minicamp-day-one/e90158a1-3ec6-4f3d-a276-070a03ff3078)
(on what he’s trying to get out of rookie camp) “Just working hard and being a good teammate to everybody around. I feel like that is all you can do, just work hard.”

(on what he would like to show the coaches) “I just want to learn from whatever Coach teaches me and learn from them and do a good job at it. At this point, that’s my job.”

(on what he likes about playing in the trenches) “I’ve been playing it all my life. I don’t mind hitting the guy in front of me. I’m an aggressive guy, so it’s fun. I like playing football a lot. I’ve been playing that position all of my life, so I’m used to it.”

(on what his new Twitter handle will be) “As far as Twitter goes, nothing now. I’m leaving Twitter alone. I’m just trying to focus on me right and trying to make this team.”

(on what he would like to show out on the field today) “Just that I can work hard and be a good teammate and just be a friendly guy to all of the guys around me and we can work well together if I get the opportunity.”
(on having his contract done to where he can just focus on football now) “With or without the contract, I just want to make the team and come around and do a great job.”

(on how surreal it is to being at the stadium and starting rookie camp with the Texans) “It’s great. I’m here. I want to stay here, so it’s all about doing my job and getting everything done and doing the right things. That’s what I’m focused on right now. It will set in once I actually hit the field, if I get that opportunity. For now, I’m just another guy.”

(on if he’s wrapped his head around the fact that he’s now in the NFL) “I wouldn’t say I’m there yet, because I haven’t had a chance to play in an actual game or anything. I’m just in the transition. That’s my mindset for now.”
(on the message from Coach O’Brien and his staff) “It’s all about just basic steps, just working hard and being a good teammate and that’s all I want to do. Those are the steps you have to take to get a chance or opportunity to play in this league or on this team. That’s what I’ll be doing.”

FB Jay Prosch

(on his first impression of Head Coach Bill O’Brien) “Definitely a straight-forward-type coach, which I really think is really great. He gets down to the point and that’s important. Overall, I think he’s a really good guy, a great coach and he’s definitely around a lot.”

(on if this is overwhelming) “I think at first it is. I’m coming from college to an NFL team and you’re expected to learn and get thrown in there but I think that’s how it’s supposed to be. Eventually you learn and get better and better as you go and then it’s your job and it’s normal.”

(on what he knows about the offense) “I really don’t know that much about it yet. Like I said earlier, we’re just starting to dig into it, just scratch the surface and really learn the basics. I’m just trying to get better and become a better teammate and really just work hard.”

(on what he can show the coaches or his teammates over the next couple of days) “We’re not padded or anything like that so I just think work ethic is going to be a huge thing. Get after it and finish is definitely something I think will stand out among different guys. How fast you are, how fast you can learn what they’re trying to teach you and adapt and coachability.”

(on the tattoo on his right bicep) “That’s an iris. My mom’s name was Iris. She passed away in September 2012, when I first got to Auburn. It’s just kind of a thing for me, a reminder of her and that she’s with me.”

(on if he thinks about his mother when he delivers a blow with his right arm) “I don’t know if I can say that. But she’s definitely a big part of my life and I definitely keep her in my prayers and on my mind a lot.”

dalemurphy
05-17-2014, 09:21 AM
Yup and regardless of being able to see that others may have needed reining in it still feels like undeserved punishment to be thrown into the remedial all is one class when you have been doing your crap correctly the whole time.

Anyone committed to winning and with the humility required to part of a team's success won't be threatened by someone building that precise culture... It is possible that AJ no longer shares those values. If he does, then he will be fine adjusting to the changes.

ObsiWan
05-17-2014, 09:25 AM
Well, I'd say that Kubiak's "handle yourself like a pro" approach actually worked fine for Andre. He is a pro and has always taken care of his business like one when it came to football so it must suck for him to have to be on a team that's got to go back to this kind of approach in order to get everyone on the same page.

Yup and regardless of being able to see that others may have needed reining in it still feels like undeserved punishment to be thrown into the remedial all is one class when you have been doing your crap correctly - AND consistently at a very high level - the whole time.

Agreed. I think you both have nailed it.
rep to you both

what is the form of gov't where everything is for the state and individual accomplishments are rarely recognized? oh yeah, Communism.

IDEXAN
05-17-2014, 09:30 AM
Louis Nix (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-Texans-minicamp-day-one/e90158a1-3ec6-4f3d-a276-070a03ff3078)

FB Jay Prosch
Don't you just wish these "journalists" interviewing the rookies would come up with more thoughtful or original questions, instead of "do you know you are in the NFL now", or "what do you think of coach O'brien" ? And then when the rookies hook up with the vets, it's going to be "were you impressed with JJ Watt", etc ? C'mon people, surely you can ask better questions than that ?

thunderkyss
05-17-2014, 10:23 AM
Nix looked like a healthy 320ish.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

False Start
05-17-2014, 10:34 AM
Don't you just wish these "journalists" interviewing the rookies would come up with more thoughtful or original questions, instead of "do you know you are in the NFL now", or "what do you think of coach O'brien" ? And then when the rookies hook up with the vets, it's going to be "were you impressed with JJ Watt", etc ? C'mon people, surely you can ask better questions than that ?

Well, they did ask Nix about his new Twitter handle... :ok: :littlelol:

Playoffs
05-17-2014, 12:17 PM
James Palmer @JPalmerCSN
With Nix missing 2 days to attend his graduation, O’Brien jokingly said Bill Kollar will find a way to catch him up. #Texans

O’Brien was asked about DE Jeoffrey Pagan. Said Pagan had “a little bit of an injury coming out of Alabama.” But said he’s doing fine.

O’Brien says rookies are not in NFL shape. Added it’s not their fault, they’ve been training 4 the combine drills and not the NFL. #Texans

O’Brien calls his staff a “staff of really good teachers.” #Texans

O’Brien says communication isn’t where you want it to be on the field with the rookies just yet. Says it’s fun watching them work on it.

Former Rice kicker Chris Boswell had appendectomy recent so he can’t kick full tilt yet. Will do more during OTAs. #Texans

#Texans rookie RB Alfred Blue had only 209 carries at LSU. Averaged pretty much 6 yards a carry while there.

#Texans rookie NT Louis Nix left this afternoon before practice to go back to South bend to attend his graduation from Notre Dame.

Extended Cut: NT Louis Nix III (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/Extended_Cut_NT_Louis_Nix_III/06217ea2-2791-42d7-92ef-a2f3c67a45ab) -- "Rome wasn't built in a day."

Former Rice kicker Chris Boswell on kicking competition (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/Rices_Boswell_on_kicking_competition/c0fde978-2547-40c7-ac4e-cbe9ec852da9)


http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5532--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG
Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
#Texans rookie camp is closed to the public

O'Brien seemed much more willing to talk about players today now that we weren't all asking about Clowney. #Texans

"If a guy has a chance to walk with his graduating class ... it’s important to let him do that" OB on Louis Nix, III, who left to go to South Bend for graduation. #Texans

O'Brien says conditioning isn't where it needs to be because they've been doing shuttle runs, 40 yard dashes,broad jumps,vertical jumps #Texans

O'Brien is asked if the rookies are in NFL shape. He says no. Says it's not their fault. #Texans

O'Brien says the rookies get tested on a lot constantly. Xs and Os, knowledge of teammates, knowledge of the organization, etc. #Texans

Chris Boswell had an appendectomy recently and hasn't been able to kick fully yet, O'Brien said. #Texans

#Texans LB Max Bullough answered every question about going undrafted with a variation of "it doesn't matter how we got here." Was suspended for Rose Bowl.
Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock
Labhart did go on to say that he's just really trying to be "Travis Labhart". Prides himself on all aspects of being a WR, not just 1 phase.

Asked Travis Labhart if he studied Wes Welker in this offense, he said yes, because he's one of the best at what he does.

Max Bullough struck me as a man of few words, that has a point to prove. His growth is worth watching. #Texans

Nwachukwu said he just really enjoyed the environment & guys in "this" locker room when I asked what led to him turning down other offers.
Context on last tweet: Other NFL teams reached out to Nwachukwu last season to try & "steal" him off the #Texans practice squad. Denied 'em

Nwachukwu said that you can't be around guys like Brian Cushing and not take your body serious.

WR EZ Nwachukwu has been taking advantge of the NFL weight room. Told him he looked like he gained 5 lbs of muscle. #Texans
PDS ‏@PatDStat
FYI asked Louis Nix, III if the "III" is required on his name. "I'm the third and that's my name." (with a smile) #Texans
Coyle says he wakes up every morning and sees NRG Stadium out his hotel room window and realizes the opportunity he has.

Rookie TE ChrisCoyle called the attention to detail that TE coach John Perry expects from the position group a good thing to have.

"He knows his football.." Nwachukwu on O'Brien. "When he comes up at talks to WRs or TEs, I want to go hear what he is saying." #Texans

Nwachukwu said there is little carry over from last year's offense to Bill O'Brien's offense for the WR position. #Texans

Nwachukwu mentioned more that one time that Savage has "a lot on his plate" for a rookie quarterback in this system. #Texans

Nwachukwu on Savage "He is spinning as much as anyone that has thrown it to me before." #Texans

thunderkyss
05-17-2014, 01:38 PM
Louis Nix (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-Texans-minicamp-day-one/e90158a1-3ec6-4f3d-a276-070a03ff3078)



I worry about Nix. Finding guys our size with the want to & ability to do what needs to be done on a football field ain't easy. I didn't know he dropped 30 lbs for the combine.... That's impressive, same as Clowney (losing weight, Clowney only dropped 10 lbs), that's work ethic & knowing you've got to take it to the next level.

He's an "athletic" 330... & I love the attitude he's bringing... so far, so good, fingers crossed.

CloakNNNdagger
05-17-2014, 03:32 PM
Another Minicamp VIDEO (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/1st-Look-Rookie-minicamp-2/9036b8aa-f023-4af9-a92c-a6d3f74de07c)

CloakNNNdagger
05-17-2014, 03:35 PM
OB's Saturday Conference is on LIVE NOW (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/LIVE-Bill-OBrien-on-Saturday/b804114d-a0c9-4ec9-a5e4-abecb723e49b)

Playoffs
05-17-2014, 05:59 PM
James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN
Rookie G Xavier Su'a-Filo on #Texans rookie camp: "You can definitely tell who wants to be here & who doesn't. And what it takes to be here."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn33vC7CIAAlo6J.jpg
PDS ‏@PatDStat
First player to practice and on the field working today? Tom Savage.

Alfred Blue catches the football like a wide receiver. Easy to see why the offensive staff liked his skill set. #Texans

Tom Savage is comfortable 20 yards in. Ball still coming out with a purpose in his intermediate game. #another strong day. #Texans

Andre Hal looked much better today. Played better in press coverage. Interested to see what happens when the WRs are bigger. #Texans

Nathan Slaughter (WTAMU) caught the ball well today. Quick in and out of breaks and has good get up an go speed after the catch. #Texans

Clowney has showed a nice progression in two days. Especially in his technique. There has been emphasis on working his hands. #Texans

At 6-5 Clowney moves like a WR off the edge. Players his size should not be able to move as easy as he can. #Texans

Really like how Clowney has looked his first two days. He is like a sponge asking questions to Crennel and Vrabel when he can. #Texans

JCTexan
05-17-2014, 06:21 PM
Rookie G Xavier Su'a-Filo on #Texans rookie camp: "You can definitely tell who wants to be here & who doesn't. And what it takes to be here."

Is he talking about anybody in-particular?

Playoffs
05-17-2014, 06:31 PM
Is he talking about anybody in-particular?

Sure, but he won't be saying who that is.

There are guys who show up to NFL camps and just tap out -- sometimes before the tough stuff even begins.

JRingo
05-17-2014, 07:35 PM
Watching Savage is exciting!

Having someone that believes in you is pretty awesome as well.

JRingo
05-17-2014, 07:49 PM
Sure, but he won't be saying who that is.

There are guys who show up to NFL camps and just tap out -- sometimes before the tough stuff even begins.

That's why I think some of our vets will be out of a job. Really like Austin Brown..

Double Barrel
05-17-2014, 08:17 PM
The rookies were squashed into the middle of the locker room, occupying temporary blue metal lockers away from the walls where veterans get to be. Some, like fourth-round quarterback Tom Savage, have to share a locker.

This is great. Love the attitude behind making them earn their lockers.

When the team used to have those All Access events during the off-season, they were after the draft and the rookies already had the permanent lockers. The higher picks even had the the nice engraved name tags on them, iirc. What a world of difference from O'Brien's approach.

JCTexan
05-17-2014, 08:54 PM
This is great. Love the attitude behind making them earn their lockers.

When the team used to have those All Access events during the off-season, they were after the draft and the rookies already had the permanent lockers. The higher picks even had the the nice engraved name tags on them, iirc. What a world of difference from O'Brien's approach.

Yeah, but do you really think the top picks have a chance of not making the team? I would say every player drafted from Clowney to Blue are guaranteed making the team no matter how bad they look during this process.

Texn4life
05-17-2014, 09:17 PM
Yeah, but do you really think the top picks have a chance of not making the team? I would say every player drafted from Clowney to Blue are guaranteed making the team no matter how bad they look during this process.

Not DB, but obviously those guys "should" make the team. The key is making sure they realize they have the same amount of experience as everyone else in the Rookie MC so they need to come in, work hard, and earn everything they get. I think its very possible some of the rookies in the past were coddled way too much.

I'm also excited about seeing OB develop our young offensive players better than what Kubiak has done in the past. I know he's a good offensive mind, but the lack of development by our young guys on that side of the ball was obvious. Arian was an exception, but most of the young skill position players never quite saw the necessary improvement. I'm excited to see what he can do.

Playoffs
05-17-2014, 11:49 PM
Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock
Lonnie Ballentine / Alfred Blue / Jay Prosch should all play pivotal roles on special teams & contribute on offense or defense 2nd.

#Texans committed late picks primarily for special teams. The new staff is treating Special Teams like it's suppose to be, which is 1/3 of the game

Yes, Ballentine was drafted mostly for STs. No value for Keo RT >>>>>>please tell me u think we got people to take Keo's spot on the 53?

The 6'4 safety, Theo Alexander transitions slow & his backpedal is way too high.

Marcus Williams & Junior Mertile were the most fluid & technically sound CBs that I saw out there. #Texans

I love watching DBs, their footwork, transition, breaks is the most artful part of football to me. Could watch them all day, everyday.

Good as usual, but dropped 1 Savage pass & Max Bullough played tight coverage on 1 >>>>>>>>>>how did C.J. Fiedorowicz look today?

Clowney reacted quick enough to get in front of the tight end & had a Savage pick 6 bounce off both his hands. Great play from JD. #Texans

Most exciting play of the day came when Clowney dropped & I believe it was Max Bullough w/ inside coverage, Clowney broke on Savage pass...

Today, Clowney pressed the man off the line tight w/ great tech, passed him off in coverage & came back down to underneath responsibility.

When Clowney dropped into coverage yesterday he'd get twisted up & looked awkward, stuck w/ the initial route to long & left opening in zone

Vrabel showed Clowney how to press TE w/ the off arm yesterday & slow the route to drop w/ coverage. Today, he looked natural w/ great techique

So far, that's what you're seeing in Clowney. He's not acting entitled, he's hungry for knowledge & soaking up coaches tips & asking questions

When it comes to Clowney's development in coverage, I don't want to see Rome built in a day, I want to see bricks getting laid, though.

I mentioned yesterday that Mike Vrabel is camping out in JD's hip pocket & giving instructions after every rep, especially coverage reps.

While Clowney still has a long way to go as a coverage LB, his growth from day 1 to day 2 was impressive. Day 1 looked like Ray Charles

I didn't want to be overly critical of JD Clowney dropping in coverage yesterday, due to it being his first time.

JD Clowney is erasing doubts quickly

I REPEAT, it's day 2 of rookie Mini-Camp. I'll report as things develop & today wasn't a great day for young Tommy.

At Pitt, Savage struggled throwing into traffic. Definitely was the case today as 3 passes could of easily been INTs.

This isn't Pitt anymore, a pass that sails high in the NFL gets returned for 6. Slightly behind, gives the DB a play on the ball.

Routinely passes were slightly high, behind, or in front. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but QBs have to fit the ball in tight windows.

Tom Savage showed more today, in the way of his flaws, then I saw on day 1. The inconsistency from his game film definitely showed up today.

But, I can only report what I see & leave it to the fans to overreact or take it in stride as a developing process.

I've been debating how to critique Tom Savage. It's only day 2 of rookie mini-camp & I don't want fans to read too much into criticism.

I know it's late, but let's talk some Houston #Texans Rookie Mini-Camp Day 2

BlueSteel
05-18-2014, 12:27 AM
There's a new Sheriff in town.

http://www.morethings.com/fan/blazing_saddles/blazing-saddles-480.jpg

The Sheriff is near?

AngryNateFTW
05-18-2014, 03:40 AM
Bullough is a vocal leader but with him being a rookie I like his "go out and let my play talk for me" approach. If he makes the 53 (which I believe he will) he will be vocal and basically a field general making sure everyone is in position pre-snap. This Defense is looking nasty.

gtexan02
05-18-2014, 06:43 AM
Msr Playoffs - thanks for posting these

Playoffs
05-18-2014, 10:54 AM
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2014-texans-rookie-minicamp/051714_texans_tbs023.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2014-texans-rookie-minicamp/051714_texans_tbs014.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2014-texans-rookie-minicamp/051714_texans_tbs002.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2014-texans-rookie-minicamp/20140516_texansminicamp_btc_21.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2014-texans-rookie-minicamp/20140516_texansminicamp_btc_18.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2014-texans-rookie-minicamp/20140516_texansminicamp_btc_19.jpg
--http://blog.chron.com/

SOTT--Rookie Mini-Camp: Day Two Review (http://www.stateofthetexans.com/blog/2014/05/17/rookie-mini-camp-day-two-review/)

Playoffs
05-18-2014, 10:54 AM
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2014-texans-rookie-minicamp/20140516_texansminicamp_btc_16.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2014-texans-rookie-minicamp/20140516_texansminicamp_btc_12.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2014-texans-rookie-minicamp/051714_texans_tbs018.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2014-texans-rookie-minicamp/051714_texans_tbs020.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2014-texans-rookie-minicamp/051714_texans_tbs021.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2014-texans-rookie-minicamp/20140516_texansminicamp_btc_17.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2014-texans-rookie-minicamp/20140516_texansminicamp_btc_20.jpg
--http://blog.chron.com/

ATXtexanfan
05-18-2014, 11:20 AM
Bullough is a vocal leader but with him being a rookie I like his "go out and let my play talk for me" approach. If he makes the 53 (which I believe he will) he will be vocal and basically a field general making sure everyone is in position pre-snap. This Defense is looking nasty.

I'm rooting for this guy.

Texecutioner
05-18-2014, 11:37 AM
I don't care at all that O'Brien doesn't say a lot and is very vague. He has always struck me as a guy who keeps things under control and doesn't allow any nonsense so it's a good thing for him to be that way as that is his style that I think will work for him no matter where he coaches.

I hated it with Kubiak, because Kubiak always did such silly things throughout games and was so conservative when it came to trying to win. The locker room seemed like it was full of nonsense and the results showed constantly. Kubiak sounded so foolish in his press conferences and just didn't seem like he had the answers other than his same ole same ole approach instead of being able to adjust to new challenges. Capers was very similar to me as well.

drs23
05-18-2014, 03:42 PM
OB's Saturday Conference is on LIVE NOW (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/LIVE-Bill-OBrien-on-Saturday/b804114d-a0c9-4ec9-a5e4-abecb723e49b)

Perused a few other vids while there. I see Nix has "earned" his name on his locker already. But not the vets? Hmmm......:kitten:

The Pencil Neck
05-18-2014, 03:43 PM
Perused a few other vids while there. I see Nix has "earned" his name on his locker already. But not the vets? Hmmm......:kitten:

That's not his locker. That's a temporary locker. The rookies all have their number and name on a temporary locker. NOT on the "real" lockers that the vets use.

DexmanC
05-18-2014, 03:47 PM
Reporter: "How's the #1 Draft Pick, Lawrence Taylor v.2, greatest pass rusher in the game Clowney coming along?

Obrien: "The rookies are being coached well. They've got a lot thrown at them, and they've been quite attentive."

I like his tone so far, but we see if it's for real when the vets get here. O'brien seems to have a hard direction he wants this team to flow in, and it's gonna be interesting to see how the vets push against his margins.

Texecutioner
05-18-2014, 03:58 PM
Reporter: "How's the #1 Draft Pick, Lawrence Taylor v.2, greatest pass rusher in the game Clowney coming along?

Obrien: "The rookies are being coached well. They've got a lot thrown at them, and they've been quite attentive."

I like his tone so far, but we see if it's for real when the vets get here. O'brien seems to have a hard direction he wants this team to flow in, and it's gonna be interesting to see how the vets push against his margins.

You think that Clowney is LT 2.0? I hope so, but really?

Allstar
05-18-2014, 04:55 PM
You think that Clowney is LT 2.0? I hope so, but really?

Do you really think that's what he thinks? The media treats Clowney like he's Zeus in cleats, and that's all the poster was implying.

drs23
05-18-2014, 05:05 PM
Reporter: "How's the #1 Draft Pick, Lawrence Taylor v.2, greatest pass rusher in the game Clowney coming along?

Obrien: "The rookies are being coached well. They've got a lot thrown at them, and they've been quite attentive."

I like his tone so far, but we see if it's for real when the vets get here. O'brien seems to have a hard direction he wants this team to flow in, and it's gonna be interesting to see how the vets push against his margins.

My thoughts as well. The rooks don't know any better, it's all new to them.

The vets are a whole different story. It's been lingering in the back of my mind if that's not got some bearing on AJ's stance. I understand the not winning history but I've strongly considered that if was status quo still AJ would have shown day 1 and we'd not heard a peep. Certainly just a supposition on my part but I do feel strongly about it.

Playoffs
05-18-2014, 06:24 PM
Media was held out of Day 3 of rookie minicamp today.

Talk amongst yourselves. http://www.vietdethuong.com/images/smilies/shhh.gif http://www.gothic.at/forum/mods/smileys/images/secret_telling_smile.gif

The Pencil Neck
05-18-2014, 06:33 PM
Media was held out of Day 3 of rookie minicamp today.

Talk amongst yourselves. http://www.vietdethuong.com/images/smilies/shhh.gif http://www.gothic.at/forum/mods/smileys/images/secret_telling_smile.gif

I was wondering what was going on. I've been jonesing for info.

ObsiWan
05-18-2014, 09:40 PM
Media was held out of Day 3 of rookie minicamp today.

Talk amongst yourselves. http://www.vietdethuong.com/images/smilies/shhh.gif http://www.gothic.at/forum/mods/smileys/images/secret_telling_smile.gif

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-fc/massbounce.gif

Mr teX
05-19-2014, 09:53 AM
Lots of similarities to this team and Post Holmgren Seattle....I think we're gonna be better than everyone thinks & we're gonna be pleasantly surprised by Savage...

Mr teX
05-19-2014, 10:02 AM
My thoughts as well. The rooks don't know any better, it's all new to them.

The vets are a whole different story. It's been lingering in the back of my mind if that's not got some bearing on AJ's stance. I understand the not winning history but I've strongly considered that if was status quo still AJ would have shown day 1 and we'd not heard a peep. Certainly just a supposition on my part but I do feel strongly about it.

i don't think it's gonna be as much a problem as you guys think it will be. Lets scroll down the vets who matter that are still here from last year.

Foster
Meyers
Brown
AJ
Cush
Watt
J-jo
K-jax


Of that group, Foster is the only guy who might try to buck..& given his season last year, off-season & unfriendly team contract I'd say it's more likely that he doesn't go against the grain with this new regime...especially a regime that's likely going to feature him.

Yes, you've got the AJ situation still looming, but BOB & him have already talked, AJ doesn't really have any leverage & it'd be very uncharacteristic for AJ to carry this any further than he's already done.

Furthermore, all these guys were here last year, I'm sure they're all tired of the losing. It would behoove all of them to get on board & try something they have either never known in the pros or just try something that's different from the last 8 years.

JRingo
05-19-2014, 11:44 AM
Lots of similarities to this team and Post Holmgren Seattle....I think we're gonna be better than everyone thinks & we're gonna be pleasantly surprised by Savage...

x2...

Double Barrel
05-19-2014, 11:57 AM
Yeah, but do you really think the top picks have a chance of not making the team? I would say every player drafted from Clowney to Blue are guaranteed making the team no matter how bad they look during this process.

It's the mentality behind the philosophy, like no logos on helmets, no names on jerseys, no individual awards in the hallways.

Of course top picks will make the team, but instead of just bestowing them with "perks", they are entering the locker-room like the rookies they are and there is no sense of entitlement.

Instead of some trainer taking a rookie like Clowney and saying "here is your locker", he will feel like he earned it when he finally gets that space.

It is a fundamental attitude shift from the previous regime, and that's the main thing I get from it.

Hervoyel
05-19-2014, 12:14 PM
It's the mentality behind the philosophy, like no logos on helmets, no names on jerseys, no individual awards in the hallways.

Of course top picks will make the team, but instead of just bestowing them with "perks", they are entering the locker-room like the rookies they are and there is no sense of entitlement.

Instead of some trainer taking a rookie like Clowney and saying "here is your locker", he will feel like he earned it when he finally gets that space.

It is a fundamental attitude shift from the previous regime, and that's the main thing I get from it.

It's the difference between giving your kid a car (for example, applies to anything really) and making him earn some or all of the money to buy it on their own. It's the difference between seeing rookie players appreciate something they understand the cost of vs. seeing rookie players come in and assume they have already earned it. People take care of things that they appreciate the value of. They'll earn their spot and fight to keep it.

Vinny
05-19-2014, 12:45 PM
You think that Clowney is LT 2.0? I hope so, but really?
If he's as good as Dr Doom (https://twitter.com/TexansTalk/status/298890036819148800/photo/1) (the greatest OLB Houston has ever seen) we'll all be very, very happy. NFL 70's All-Decade Team, 7x Pro Bowler in 1st 7 yrs, 5x All-Pro

https://twitter.com/TexansTalk/status/298890036819148800/photo/1

Playoffs
05-19-2014, 01:30 PM
Houston Texans ‏@HoustonTexans
On draft day, Xavier Su'a-Filo said he was excited to eat at Whataburger.

So they catered. To all the rookies. #WelcomeToHTown

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoBGZOOIcAEgmN7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoBGZOOIcAEgmN7.jpg

ObsiWan
05-19-2014, 02:43 PM
Houston Texans ‏@HoustonTexans


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoBGZOOIcAEgmN7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoBGZOOIcAEgmN7.jpg
Man, if they're impressed with Whataburger wait until they get a burger from Luther's.

Texans_Chick
05-19-2014, 04:53 PM
Here's my blog post with a brief snapshot of now, with a few minicamp thoughts thrown in and bonus terrible photoshop:

The answer to most things 2014 Houston Texans (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/05/the-answer-to-most-things-2014-houston-texans/)

If you have any questions rookie or vet minicamp, please ask, and I'll check back to answer. I didn't break down stuff too specifically because I think a lot of that stuff is overblown, especially this early when they aren't doing a ton. You know, the old WOW this guy, that guy had a bad day stuff.

kiwitexansfan
05-19-2014, 05:09 PM
Here's my blog post with a brief snapshot of now, with a few minicamp thoughts thrown in and bonus terrible photoshop:

The answer to most things 2014 Houston Texans (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/05/the-answer-to-most-things-2014-houston-texans/)

If you have any questions rookie or vet minicamp, please ask, and I'll check back to answer. I didn't break down stuff too specifically because I think a lot of that stuff is overblown, especially this early when they aren't doing a ton. You know, the old WOW this guy, that guy had a bad day stuff.

Thanks for the Post TC, that was some HORRIFIC photoshopping.

You said that the players who need to step up got extra attention. Was there anyone who was getting extra attention that surprised you?

Say were any of the UDFA getting more focus than you would of thought?

Double Barrel
05-19-2014, 05:18 PM
Thanks for the Post TC, that was some HORRIFIC photoshopping.

hehe, sad part is there are already tons of images she could have used. ;)

Elephino (https://www.google.com/search?q=helephino&client=firefox-a&hs=iYX&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=XIJ6U6uUJpCjqAatyYKwDw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1920&bih=962&dpr=1#channel=sb&q=elephino&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&spell=1&tbm=isch)

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/220/b/1/the_great_elephino_by_ritter99-d5ad9zc.jpg

kiwitexansfan
05-19-2014, 05:22 PM
hehe, sad part is there are already tons of images she could have used. ;)

Elephino (https://www.google.com/search?q=helephino&client=firefox-a&hs=iYX&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=XIJ6U6uUJpCjqAatyYKwDw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1920&bih=962&dpr=1#channel=sb&q=elephino&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&spell=1&tbm=isch)

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/220/b/1/the_great_elephino_by_ritter99-d5ad9zc.jpg

Now that is quality right there.

That is an offense I can get behind.

WAIT: That photoshop lacks Hippo.

kiwitexansfan
05-19-2014, 05:24 PM
Try this:

http://altergrounds.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/helephino.jpg

Double Barrel
05-19-2014, 05:34 PM
Now that is quality right there.

That is an offense I can get behind.

WAIT: That photoshop lacks Hippo.

I never heard hippo added to the joke.

The "classic" version:

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6028813568/h3040C92B/

kiwitexansfan
05-19-2014, 06:03 PM
I never heard hippo added to the joke.

The "classic" version:

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6028813568/h3040C92B/

Wasn't familiar with the source material.

Texans_Chick
05-19-2014, 06:34 PM
I want it to be a Helephino, not an Elephino.

We are not British.

Texans_Chick
05-19-2014, 06:34 PM
Try this:

http://altergrounds.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/helephino.jpg

That would work.

Texans_Chick
05-19-2014, 06:39 PM
Thanks for the Post TC, that was some HORRIFIC photoshopping.

You said that the players who need to step up got extra attention. Was there anyone who was getting extra attention that surprised you?

Say were any of the UDFA getting more focus than you would of thought?

Mercilus and Clowney were getting an earful. So was Savage. But in a good way, like we need to get you up to speed fast way.

Playoffs
05-19-2014, 06:51 PM
...I didn't break down stuff too specifically because I think a lot of that stuff is overblown, especially this early when they aren't doing a ton. You know, the old WOW this guy, that guy had a bad day stuff.

Enjoyed the update (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/05/the-answer-to-most-things-2014-houston-texans/), Steph.

I've been holding off on the Paul Dunn prejudgements, but you just spilt the milk. :kitten:

Are you seeing any of this 7 Characteristics of the Relationship-Driven Coach (http://www.stack.com/2014/05/09/relationship-driven-coach/) from OB's staff?

And don't think I didn't catch the bit about "heavy ball"... I played some golf and those were 3 & 4 club winds.


Also, this looks a bit dachshund (https://www.google.com/search?q=dachshund&num=50&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=x5l6U5TrN8O1yASLz4CABg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=947) to me...

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/286/c/e/rhinophant_by_dwarf4r-d6qacab.jpg

drs23
05-19-2014, 06:51 PM
Mercilus and Clowney were getting an earful. So was Savage. But in a good way, like we need to get you up to speed fast way.

Thank you much. AGAIN!

kiwitexansfan
05-19-2014, 07:38 PM
Mercilus and Clowney were getting an earful. So was Savage. But in a good way, like we need to get you up to speed fast way.

Mercilus was at Rookies minicamp?

Didn't realise some of our vets were there.

Texans_Chick
05-19-2014, 08:16 PM
Mercilus was at Rookies minicamp?

Didn't realise some of our vets were there.

Nah, that was from the early vet camp. But same earful.

I really like how hands on Mike Vrabel is with all the linebackers. Very specific instruction. Mix of hilarious sarcasm and praise, but mostly specific comments about technique.

IDEXAN
05-19-2014, 09:46 PM
Here's my blog post with a brief snapshot of now, with a few minicamp thoughts thrown in and bonus terrible photoshop:

The answer to most things 2014 Houston Texans (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/05/the-answer-to-most-things-2014-houston-texans/)

If you have any questions rookie or vet minicamp, please ask, and I'll check back to answer. I didn't break down stuff too specifically because I think a lot of that stuff is overblown, especially this early when they aren't doing a ton. You know, the old WOW this guy, that guy had a bad day stuff.

Very good, thanks TC !

Playoffs
05-20-2014, 10:42 AM
John Harris Rookie Review: Offense (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/John-Harris-Rookie-Review-Offense/6658894b-a717-4649-969a-059e027e5181)
It was only three days, but for some Houston Texans rookies, it was the most important three days of their young professional careers. Rookie minicamp concluded last Sunday and it’ll be the last time the full squad isn’t together until the end of the season.

With middle school style lockers in the middle of the locker room and 72 hours to prove what they can do, some youngsters made a significant impression on the coaching staff and to the throng of media in attendance. A pair of rookies came to Houston with nothing but a tryout and left with a contract and a shot at training camp.

But let’s focus on some math: prior to the draft, the Texans roster included 66 veterans. There were 46 participants last weekend, including eleven on a tryout basis. The team can only take 53 players into the first week of the season.

Two plus three, carry the one, add the five and well, that math doesn’t add up to much opportunity.

Sure, the team is allowed to keep eight on the practice squad, but the reality of the situation for the rookies is that a handful will have a shot and few will be Houston Texans this fall. That said, there were some who opened eyes throughout the weekend. As such, this is part one of our look at the rookie mini-camp, focusing on the offensive side of the ball.


Quarterback
Considering there was only one quarterback in attendance and he was the team’s only quarterback drafted, former Pitt signal caller Tom Savage wasn’t under the same pressure as others. That said, he was arguably under the biggest microscope. But with quarterbacks coach George Godsey able to spend time with Savage, and only with him, the 6-4, 228 pound gunslinger soaked in the knowledge all weekend.

The physical tools were evident from the first throw. I wasn’t here to see David Carr live, but I’ve seen every quarterback since and there’s no question that Savage has..

Running back
The only two running backs in attendance were sixth rounders Alfred Blue and Jay Prosch. Non-rookie Toben Opurum injured his leg, in some capacity, at some point on the first day, so for the majority of camp, the two sixth rounders handled all of the reps. Prosch was able to show his athleticism as he did at the Senior Bowl, but his impact won’t really be felt, figuratively and literally, under the pads go on.

The surprise, so to speak, was Blue. I’ve seen him dozens of times at LSU but this past weekend...

Wide receiver
When I planned out this piece, the first name that came to mind was Lacoltan Bester, the former Oklahoma Sooner wide receiver... the impression he made, catching nearly everything near him, bought him the rest of the summer and potentially a practice squad spot...

The other receiver that made a significant impression over the weekend was EZ Nwachukwu. The former Aggie spent last season on the Texans practice squad, which gave him the opportunity to participate in the rookie minicamp.

He was fantastic. He caught everything thrown his way, often climbing the...

Tight end
The tight end position is sort of like a Las Vegas casino/restaurant buffet: so many different options, and it’s just a matter of how hungry you are. Or what you’re looking for, I suppose.

Former Iowa star C.J. Fiedorowicz caused the biggest stir among those watching practice, but I kept a close on eye on former Arizona State star Chris Coyle and Utah hybrid Y/H-back Anthony Denham. Coyle seemed much more comfortable as the Y-tight end than Denham. Coyle’s blocking technique was good and his overall fundamental level was high. But Denham has athleticism the other two don’t...

Offensive line
Without pads and the ability to be physical, as per the NFL’s CBA, there’s not a lot to go on other than physical impressions. But former Bloomsburg star Matt Feiler made one on me. He’s a house. This guy is massive. He had some strong moments at the Shrine Bowl and it was a surprise that he didn’t get drafted. There is plenty of opportunity at right tackle in Houston, especially with the questionable health of Brennan Williams.

The other right tackle candidate that will have a chance to push to make the roster is former South Dakota State standout Bryan Witzmann. I heard O’Brien praise Witzmann during the Saturday practice and trust me that...

76Texan
05-20-2014, 11:21 AM
I think our TE Corp has a good chance to be better than last year since we had injuries across the board in 2013.

I like the guy(s) we might put on PS more than the ones from last year, and it's not just because of optimism around this time of year.
It's understandable that Supernaw got cut.

Playoffs
05-21-2014, 01:19 PM
John Harris Rookie Review: Defense (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/John-Harris-Rookie-Review-Defense/71c4d98c-947f-4aa7-b4ef-8d0afadefe7b)

In this second part of our series looking at the Texans Rookie minicamp, I’ll take a look at the defensive side of the ball. Let me preface all the comments with this quick story.

When I was a freshman in college, we had a massive, hulking veteran running back on the roster. Suffice it to say on first glance, I was a bit intimidated. Let’s be honest, I hit anything that moved and thinking about hitting him shook me just a bit. When I made a comment to one of the seniors on the team, without missing a beat, he said “looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane”. I thought it was sort of a mean assessment.

Until the pads went on three days later.

It was at that particular point that I understood the true value of a player wearing pads or without. He ran upright, slow and scared. He wasn’t the hammer I thought originally he was. Instead, he wore a bullseye as a target.

The point?

It's difficult to gauge the full value of the defensive rookies until we see them put the pads on against the veterans. The most telling aspect of a defensive player is how violent he is, gory though that may be to say. But that doesn’t mean that certain rookies didn’t make their presences known over the weekend.

Here’s a look at a few standouts on the defensive side of the ball.

Defensive line

Just as on offense, the Texans signed a defensive player after his tryout over the weekend, Julius Warmsley of Tulane... got a lion's share of the instruction from DL coach Bill Kollar. He impressed enough to sign a deal and compete further.


Linebackers
Other than Jadeveon Clowney, the linebacker that made the most significant impression on everyone in and around the Texans’ facility last weekend was former Michigan State ILB Max Bullough. Each and every year, there’s a handful of players that don’t get drafted and it makes no sense why they weren’t selected. In 2014, it was... Shayne Skov... and Bullough. By signing Bullough they got an eleventh draft pick, to be honest.

Bullough can play. He has a designated skill set as a B-gap to B-gap run-plugging linebacker on first and second down, at worst. Maybe he’s only a first down player, but throw in special teams and Bullough has a great shot of making an impact on this team from day one...

The other linebacker’s name that I heard, literally, more often than not, during the weekend was former Nebraska star defensive end Jason Ankrah. I can’t tell you how many times I heard linebackers coach Mike Vrabel say “good job, Jason” over the two days of practice. He’s a former defensive end transitioning to outside linebacker and that move won’t be easy. But he’s a stout 262 pounds and will be solid against the run....

Secondary
...
But the third player I was stoked to see in Houston was former North Dakota State star Marcus Williams. The Bison were clearly the best team in FCS for the past three years and... Williams was a big factor in that success...

He was motivated by the draft slight, yet honored that Houston made the call... Williams won’t unseat Kareem Jackson or Jonathan Joseph and he’ll have to fight to make the roster, but there isn’t much proven depth behind the starting duo. The addition of Hal and Williams to the cornerback corps will make for interesting camp watching in a few weeks and months.