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infantrycak
05-09-2014, 09:36 PM
TE :shades:

The Pencil Neck
05-09-2014, 09:37 PM
And a good one.

rmartin65
05-09-2014, 09:37 PM
Awesome. I love this pick. This has been a great, great draft for the Texans so far.

JCTexan
05-09-2014, 09:37 PM
I like the pick.. Big TE that fits the New England mold.

honored82
05-09-2014, 09:38 PM
Not happy. We have another needs that are important and with 3 TE's already on roster why go for this one soo early :(

BOB is in love with TE's i guess

powda
05-09-2014, 09:38 PM
Mehhh.

mattieuk
05-09-2014, 09:39 PM
Know nothing about this guy, so I can't comment.

Typing surnames on TexansTalk and drinking a beer during the game just got a ton harder with he 2nd and 3rd rounds though....

Corrosion
05-09-2014, 09:39 PM
Good player , but I'd have gone a different direction - RT , DT , DE , CB , QB are all more pressing needs than TE.

This was a luxury pick I don't think they could afford to make.

The Pencil Neck
05-09-2014, 09:39 PM
Not happy. We have another needs that are important and with 3 TE's already on roster why go for this one soo early :(

BOB is in love with TE's i guess

He was the OC at NE when they drafted Gronk and Hernandez in the same draft. So. Yeah. Maybe even more so than Kubiak.

bckey
05-09-2014, 09:39 PM
First pick that I am not all that crazy about. Seems like there was better value at other positions.

CloakNNNdagger
05-09-2014, 09:40 PM
Gronk II is coming to Houston! He's also the blocking TE that the Texans have been looking for.

BullNation4Life
05-09-2014, 09:40 PM
Not happy. We have another needs that are important and with 3 TE's already on roster why go for this one soo early :(

BOB is in love with TE's i guess

Considering he was the one that drafted Gronk and Hernandez ( before he got his degree in thug-a-nomics)

TEs are a huge part of OB's offense

Seegara
05-09-2014, 09:41 PM
Grade C-. We still need a RT worse, and better take a QB before there's nobody left. BoB seems to be enamored with size.

281
05-09-2014, 09:41 PM
We have Griffin and Graham, who we just paid. This seems like a luxury pick. I'm not too pleased with this one.

76Texan
05-09-2014, 09:42 PM
That's my boy!
Most complete TE the Texans ever had.
I was fearful when the run on them TEs started.

Corrosion
05-09-2014, 09:43 PM
Considering he was the one that drafted Gronk and Hernandez ( before he got his degree in thug-a-nomics)

TEs are a huge part of OB's offense

OB didn't draft those guys. That would be Patriots GM & Head Coach Bill Belicheat.

OB didn't draft Mallett either .... you guy's give him far too much credit responsibility for his time in New England.

CloakNNNdagger
05-09-2014, 09:43 PM
Good write up:

http://bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2014/05/iowas_cj_fiedorowicz_good_insurance_for_gronk

TheIronDuke
05-09-2014, 09:43 PM
OB's offense requires better TE's than we currently have. I'm very pleased with this pick.

Vinny
05-09-2014, 09:43 PM
Pats brought him in pre-draft (http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/124220/c-j-fiedorowicz-to-visit-patriots). Kinda makes me wonder if he is going to be part of a Mallett deal except that I expected BoB to get a TE with a bigger footprint

bah007
05-09-2014, 09:44 PM
If you gave this pick a thumbs down you have never seen Fiedorowicz play. Fantastic pick. One of my favorite players in this draft.

Lucky
05-09-2014, 09:46 PM
Not happy. We have another needs that are important and with 3 TE's already on roster why go for this one soo early :(

BOB is in love with TE's i guess

Good player , but I'd have gone a different direction - RT , DT , DE , CB , QB are all more pressing needs than TE.

This was a luxury pick I don't think they could afford to make.
No, the Texans did not have an inline TE. This guy's a starter in a 2 TE lineup. And do we know for sure that X won't be tried at RT?

kiwitexansfan
05-09-2014, 09:47 PM
My third favourite TE after ASJ and Niklas.

Still wanting some serious beef on the DL

Scooter
05-09-2014, 09:47 PM
heath miller. complete player and someone who can do everything at a high level. not going to be confused with jimmy graham, but will be a huge impact in the run game and play action.

fiasco west
05-09-2014, 09:47 PM
I'm really loving the first BOB draft on paper.

Looks like for the first time in a long time we are going to be a big and intimidating team.

Vinny
05-09-2014, 09:48 PM
If you gave this pick a thumbs down you have never seen Fiedorowicz play. Fantastic pick. One of my favorite players in this draft. hes gonna be different than OD. Easy to get a feel for what he brings here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1N65H9w-XM

LikeMike
05-09-2014, 09:49 PM
Well, we've just further improved our running game (I sense a trend here) and got a legitimate redone threat. And the guy he is most compared to is Gronk (who was a 3d rounder if I'm correct) - plus he actually seems to be a team first guy and a hard worker. Tall, big hands, good body control, what's not to like?

xtruroyaltyx
05-09-2014, 09:50 PM
Starting TE for the texans.

gtexan02
05-09-2014, 09:50 PM
From the Boston Herald today:
http://bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2014/05/iowas_cj_fiedorowicz_good_insurance_for_gronk

If the Patriots are looking for Rob Gronkowski insurance, or better yet, a durable version of Gronk, there’s one lurking in the draft.

Iowa’s C.J. Fiedorowicz just might be the closest to a Gronk clone in terms of being a dual-threat tight end.

First, he’s arguably the best blocking tight end in the draft. He also has great hands and can catch the football.

The fact he fits in the Gronk mold should come as no surprise. The 6-foot-5, 265-pound Fiedorowicz modeled his game after the Patriots tight end.

“A lot of tight ends in the NFL are either blocking tight ends or receiving tight ends. I like watching Rob Gronkowski, someone I look up to,” Fiedorowicz said during the scouting combine. “He can dominate both the line of scrimmage and down the field. That’s who I kind of want to be like.”

bah007
05-09-2014, 09:51 PM
hes gonna be different than OD. Easy to get a feel for what he brings here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1N65H9w-XM

Oh yeah.

He's a nightmare for defenses in the mold of Gronkowski, just not quite as athletic.

powda
05-09-2014, 09:52 PM
Not really what I was looking for but if FIDO can get the Pats 2 TE offense going i guess we'll be going that way.

I valued any defensive lineman

Any ILB

Any DB

Any Qb

more then a goddamned TE. But I guess whatever. This is the pick i'll look back on in 2-3 years and say I was wrong or right.

bOODRO87
05-09-2014, 09:54 PM
If you gave this pick a thumbs down you have never seen Fiedorowicz play. Fantastic pick. One of my favorite players in this draft.

Agreed. This is looking like a great draft so far. Three players that can immediately play.

Drink the FKN Kool-aid! :koolaid:

CloakNNNdagger
05-09-2014, 09:56 PM
We have Griffin and Graham, who we just paid. This seems like a luxury pick. I'm not too pleased with this one.

Neither can block worth a darn.

NathanT27
05-09-2014, 09:56 PM
After watching Fiedorowicz video I can say what an AWESOME pick! We are going for size and Gron II will be great. So far I give this draft an A+.

CloakNNNdagger
05-09-2014, 09:59 PM
From the Boston Herald today:
http://bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2014/05/iowas_cj_fiedorowicz_good_insurance_for_gronk

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2337199&postcount=17

Bulls on Parade
05-09-2014, 10:00 PM
If you gave this pick a thumbs down you have never seen Fiedorowicz play. Fantastic pick. One of my favorite players in this draft.
Agreed. I like the pick. My only thought is what about Ryan Griffin? Are we not expecting him to improve? Or is this good insurance in case Garrett Graham gets hurt? I suppose we'll be pretty good in double tight end formations regardless. I think Fiedorowicz is a sexy pick on the surface aka nice eye candy.

I just hope he reaches his potential and doesn't become another David LaFleur, similar size and talent coming out of college, aka former first-round pick in 1997 for the Dallas Cowboys. Really awesome and big 6'7 and 272 pass-catching tight end that was supposed to become a really solid pro. He was out of the league by 2000. Became a big bust instead.

Watching the highlights of C.J. Fiedorowicz that is who he reminds me of. Hopefully he has a much better career in the NFL like I said. He's a third-round pick so the expectations aren't the same as a first rounder. Less pressure.

amazing80
05-09-2014, 10:00 PM
So far 3 picks, and 3 new legit starters. great draft so far.

These Mallet rumors are heating up. Not sure I like that, but will ride it out with BOB I guess.

Corrosion
05-09-2014, 10:01 PM
If you gave this pick a thumbs down you have never seen Fiedorowicz play. Fantastic pick. One of my favorite players in this draft.

I gave the pick a thumbs down - Not because I don't like the player. I do like him and think he'll be a quality NFL TE.


I just look at the roster and think there were better options on the board.

(Louis Nix , Rice CB Phillip Gaines , Morgan Moses , Antonio Richardson)

It seems like a luxury pick ....

xtruroyaltyx
05-09-2014, 10:01 PM
He's easily the starting TE on the Team.

Don't have to settle for Grahm or Griffin as starters. CJ is a legit starter.

IMO 3 starters with three picks = a great draft so far. And these aren't just guys. I think all three picks can be reaaaaaallllly good players.

Vinny
05-09-2014, 10:01 PM
He is getting compared to Gronk but I think he is a bit more like Heath Miller from the Steelers.

honored82
05-09-2014, 10:02 PM
Next pick better be on defense.... DT, NT or CB

Corrosion
05-09-2014, 10:03 PM
So far 3 picks, and 3 new legit starters. great draft so far.

These Mallet rumors are heating up. Not sure I like that, but will ride it out with BOB I guess.

Rick Smith Denies Houston Texans Have Talked To New England Patriots About Acquiring Ryan Mallett. (http://www.battleredblog.com/2014/5/9/5700714/rick-smith-denies-houston-texans-have-talked-to-new-england-patriots)

:nolisten:

Bulls on Parade
05-09-2014, 10:04 PM
He is getting compared to Gronk but I think he is a bit more like Heath Miller from the Steelers.
He's definitely not Gronk. LOL. More like David LaFleur if you remember him. He can become a pro bowler tight end in the NFL if he lives up to his potential and stays healthy. I'm knocking on wood here.

honored82
05-09-2014, 10:05 PM
From the Boston Herald today:
http://bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2014/05/iowas_cj_fiedorowicz_good_insurance_for_gronk

Because NE took Garappolo ( BOB's choice ), Texans took TE Fiedorowicz ( Belichicks choice )

Payback *itch!

Bulls on Parade
05-09-2014, 10:07 PM
Because NE took Garappolo ( BOB's choice ), Texans took TE Fiedorowicz ( Belichicks choice )

Payback *itch!
C.J. Fiedorowicz is a big body target with excellent hands. If he wants to be he can become one of the best tight ends in the AFC, if not the entire league, in a couple of years. It all depends on what his work ethic is like. The raw talent is undeniable. He can also block pretty good from what I'm seeing on game tape at the moment.

amazing80
05-09-2014, 10:07 PM
He is getting compared to Gronk but I think he is a bit more like Heath Miller from the Steelers.

I didn't think Gronk and CJ were similar either, but there actually are. Same size, same speed, same athleticism, both good blockers and pass catchers. Hopefully he becomes as good a pro as Gronk minus the injuries....

TheMatrix31
05-09-2014, 10:07 PM
Maybe he'll be good, but I do think we had more pressing needs. Moreso angry that the Patriots sniped Garoppolo. Because the Patriots are cocksuckers and that it was entirely predictable.

Better not trade for Mallett. The Patriots aren't going to just give us someone who's good. Draft a damn QB and that's it.

Vinny
05-09-2014, 10:11 PM
Maybe he'll be good, but I do think we had more pressing needs. Moreso angry that the Patriots sniped Garoppolo. Because the Patriots are cocksuckers and that it was entirely predictable.

Better not trade for Mallett. The Patriots aren't going to just give us someone who's good. Draft a damn QB and that's it.when you have a big fat transparent need you need to move up and take your QB...you can't wait for a good one to drop. Everyone thinking they might want one will just move right in front of you. If the Texans were thinking they would wait and their guy would fall to them they were fools....if they didn't like the value and could stay away I'm ok with that.

gtexan02
05-09-2014, 10:14 PM
when you have a big fat transparent need you need to move up and take your QB...you can't wait for a good one to drop. Everyone thinking they might want one will just move right in front of you. If the Texans were thinking they would wait and their guy would fall to them they were fools....if they didn't like the value and could stay away I'm ok with that.

Agree completely. I feel like we've tried to get cute and get good value at a position of need. Unfortunately that position of need just so happens to be the most important position and we're now left hoping for good value from future backups. There were probably 2-3 eventual starters in this draft and we missed out on all of them.

Bob McNair can't say we are 'reloading' rather than rebuilding and then go into the season with Fitzpatrick at QB and a 4th+ round rookie "in waiting."

We are rebuilding. We've known it all along, it just sucks to have it confirmed

bah007
05-09-2014, 10:14 PM
He is getting compared to Gronk but I think he is a bit more like Heath Miller from the Steelers.

I think that's fair.

Thorn
05-09-2014, 10:17 PM
Well, for whatever reason they selected the guy, after watching some highlights of him, I can see why they got him. This guy, at best, is a starter this year, at the least, he will still see significant playing time. I'm not as down on this pick now as I was earlier.

mussop
05-09-2014, 10:17 PM
Meet the new Houston Texans Tight End C.J. Fiedorowicz

Link (http://www.thefootballeducator.com/meet-iowa-tight-end-2014-nfl-draft-entrant-c-j-fiedorowicz/)


video (http://draftbreakdown.com/players/cj-fiedorowicz/)

TheMatrix31
05-09-2014, 10:19 PM
They need to draft Murray/Mettenberger/McCarron and then just go OL the rest of the way. Get everyone else from UDFA.

amazing80
05-09-2014, 10:21 PM
Meet the new Houston Texans Tight End C.J. Fiedorowicz

Link (http://www.thefootballeducator.com/meet-iowa-tight-end-2014-nfl-draft-entrant-c-j-fiedorowicz/)


video (http://draftbreakdown.com/players/cj-fiedorowicz/)

Good read. MSR

Vinny
05-09-2014, 10:22 PM
when you have a big fat transparent need you need to move up and take your QB...you can't wait for a good one to drop. Everyone thinking they might want one will just move right in front of you. If the Texans were thinking they would wait and their guy would fall to them they were fools....if they didn't like the value and could stay away I'm ok with that.

Agree completely. I feel like we've tried to get cute and get good value at a position of need. Unfortunately that position of need just so happens to be the most important position and we're now left hoping for good value from future backups. There were probably 2-3 eventual starters in this draft and we missed out on all of them.

Bob McNair can't say we are 'reloading' rather than rebuilding and then go into the season with Fitzpatrick at QB and a 4th+ round rookie "in waiting."

We are rebuilding. We've known it all along, it just sucks to have it confirmedI have a feeling they got too cute too. It's almost unrealistic to think they wouldn't take a QB in the first 3 rounds otherwise.

Well, for whatever reason they selected the guy, after watching some highlights of him, I can see why they got him. This guy, at best, is a starter this year, at the least, he will still see significant playing time. I'm not as down on this pick now as I was earlier.
This guy is like Heath Miller except bigger. He is listed at 6'7" (I need to find his combine measurements). Think lots of post-up TD's (think basketball). Run down, break the plane of the end zone and post-up while a FA QB lobs you a pass that's 10 ft in the air that only a 6'7" guy can catch.

badboy
05-09-2014, 10:23 PM
Houston trade with Eagles

Carr Bombed
05-09-2014, 10:24 PM
He's easily the starting TE on the Team.

Don't have to settle for Grahm or Griffin as starters. CJ is a legit starter.

IMO 3 starters with three picks = a great draft so far. And these aren't just guys. I think all three picks can be reaaaaaallllly good players.

Why does everyone keep saying this like it's some great accomplishment or some measuring factor on how successful their draft is?

When you have the finish with the worst record in the league, you obviously have a lot of holes to fill. When you have the #1 ovrl pick in the draft and the first pick in every round you better be drafting starters...even past the 3rd round. Houston could've selected a entire different crop of players in the first round and they would've still been likely starters.

TheMatrix31
05-09-2014, 10:24 PM
Oh ****.

pirbroke
05-09-2014, 10:26 PM
Damn who we after?

Naija Texan
05-09-2014, 10:27 PM
Seems wasteful given how depleted the defensive line group is. Maybe he was high on Jimmy G.

Thorn
05-09-2014, 10:28 PM
NIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Corrosion
05-09-2014, 10:43 PM
I have a feeling they got too cute too. It's almost unrealistic to think they wouldn't take a QB in the first 3 rounds otherwise.

I think that was the case , especially after they just made the move up for Nix giving up 4:1 & 5:1. Kinda shows they may not have been interested in any of the QB's remaining.

Bridgewater snatched away (they had to see that coming)
Garappolo snatched away .... I saw it coming , just not NE.

They have 4:35 remaining .... Wonder if McCarron falls that far or if they even take a QB at all ?!


This guy is like Heath Miller except bigger. He is listed at 6'7" (I need to find his combine measurements). Think lots of post-up TD's (think basketball). Run down, break the plane of the end zone and post-up while a FA QB lobs you a pass that's 10 ft in the air that only a 6'7" guy can catch.

That QB better chuck it up quick .... Newton still on the roster.

Vinny
05-09-2014, 10:50 PM
That QB better chuck it up quick .... Newton still on the roster.

3 yard pass! RockNroll!1111!!

gtexan02
05-09-2014, 10:53 PM
3 yard pass! RockNroll!1111!!

If Fitzpatrick is the QB he'll definitely put it up for grabs. Maybe BoB needs big muscly guys to try and limit all the turnovers

The Pencil Neck
05-09-2014, 11:05 PM
If Fitzpatrick is the QB he'll definitely put it up for grabs. Maybe BoB needs big muscly guys to try and limit all the turnovers

So.

How do you feel about our QB situation?

:kitten:

PapaL
05-09-2014, 11:20 PM
Big ass TE...there I said it! 6-5/265

http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2014cfiedorowicz.php

Strengths:
Strong
Physical
Reliable hands
Superb run-blocker
Subtle quickness
Surprising athleticism
Big target
Attacks the middle seam
Leaping ability
Good route-running
Red-zone weapon
Asset in short-yardage, goal-line situations
Tough to bring down
Strong drive blocker
Effective seam tight end

Weaknesses:
Not a speed mismatch

Player Comparison: Anthony Fasano. Fiedorowicz won't go as high as Fasano did in the 2006 NFL Draft. The Cowboys took Fasano in the second round, but that was a reach. Fiedorowicz has a similar game to Fasano (6-4, 255). They both are good blockers who can make some contributions as a receiver. Fasano has bounced around, but he's been a decent NFL tight end. Fiedorowicz could be a similar player.

MEGA SWATT
05-09-2014, 11:22 PM
So far 3 picks, and 3 new legit starters. great draft so far.

These Mallet rumors are heating up. Not sure I like that, but will ride it out with BOB I guess.

sounds good.

MEGA SWATT
05-09-2014, 11:27 PM
Big ass TE...there I said it! 6-5/265

http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2014cfiedorowicz.php

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/466/626/c18.gif

midway
05-09-2014, 11:27 PM
Not really what I was looking for but if FIDO can get the Pats 2 TE offense going i guess we'll be going that way.

I valued any defensive lineman

Any ILB

Any DB

Any Qb

more then a goddamned TE. But I guess whatever. This is the pick i'll look back on in 2-3 years and say I was wrong or right.

I'm pretty sure it's in the Texans corporate charter that they are required to draft a white TE in every draft.

powda
05-10-2014, 12:28 AM
I'm pretty sure it's in the Texans corporate charter that they are required to draft a white TE in every draft.

See, I thought that was gone with KUBES ,but I guess the trend remains. We have 11 picks. Lets draft 11 Te's.

TexansSeminole
05-10-2014, 12:40 AM
I kept seeing this guy in mocks and in rankings but never scouted him. I like what I see from highlights and wading his scouting report.

drs23
05-10-2014, 12:43 AM
I like the pick.. Big TE that fits the New Texans mold.

fify

drs23
05-10-2014, 12:49 AM
OB didn't draft those guys. That would be Patriots GM & Head Coach Bill Belicheat.

OB didn't draft Mallett either .... you guy's give him far too much credit responsibility for his time in New England.

I'd bet he had something to do with this pick though. Ya think? :)

Wolf6151
05-10-2014, 12:52 AM
I gave Fiedorowicz the player a thumbs up, but not the pick. I think we need a starter at OT more than we need a 3rd string TE.

76Texan
05-10-2014, 12:58 AM
I kept seeing this guy in mocks and in rankings but never scouted him. I like what I see from highlights and wading his scouting report.

Noles; you have got to watch him block.
The last Hawkeye TE I enjoyed watching was Brandon Myers whom I said at the time that the Texans should have drafted instead of Anthony Hills.
And that was based mostly on Myers' blocking.
He has developed his catching skills nicely to the tune of some 120 catches the last two years. A steal as a fifth rounder; I'd say.

Fiedorowicz is as proficient in blocking, but a world ahead of Myers in the passing game.
Give him a year, and I wholeheartedly believe he can become a very good player.
It's too early to count money in the bank, but the guy is very smart and run great routes.
He just might become our QB's best friend.

Corrosion
05-10-2014, 04:29 AM
I'd bet he had something to do with this pick though. Ya think? :)

I'm sure he did .... the point is people keep pointing to his time in NE like he had some great amount of responsibility there (drafted Mallett , drafted Gronk and the thug).

Its possible he put his 2 cents in .... but acting like he was the man in NE , no that's Belecheats team.

thunderkyss
05-10-2014, 04:54 AM
Its possible he put his 2 cents in .... but acting like he was the man in NE , no that's Belecheats team.

I don't know about that. Some people say, "He was the OC when New England drafted Mallet."

Somehow some people take that to mean OB was orchestrating the draft.

I believe most people pointing to OB's involvement in NewEngland believe it was just that, involvement.

Playoffs
05-10-2014, 10:31 AM
Excellent extensive 'scouting report' on CJ:

So You've Drafted C.J. Fiedorowicz: A New Owner's Guide (http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/football/2014/5/9/5677556/iowa-football-c-j-fiedorowicz-tight-end-nfl-draft-2014)
Congratulations! You've just made the wonderful decision to draft C.J. Fiedorowicz! Like most new Fiedorowicz owners, you're no doubt filled with questions about your new family member. We here at BHGP will try our best to answer any questions you might have...

vupac1
05-10-2014, 10:58 AM
He caught 45 passes for 433 yards, which were both career highs. He finished third on the team in both stats but collected only one touchdown. Iowa as a team had a total of seven touchdown passes in 2012. It was a team problem.

He'll fit right in here....:kitten:

bah007
05-10-2014, 02:02 PM
I gave Fiedorowicz the player a thumbs up, but not the pick. I think we need a starter at OT more than we need a 3rd string TE.

Make no mistake, Fiedorowicz will be the #1 TE on this team when the season starts.

xtruroyaltyx
05-10-2014, 02:15 PM
Make no mistake, Fiedorowicz will be the #1 TE on this team when the season starts.

Yep. I think pretty easily he's the best TE on this roster now.

Thorn
05-10-2014, 02:41 PM
Yep. I think pretty easily he's the best TE on this roster now.

I didn't agree with this at first, but I do now after watching all the clips on him.

Vinny
05-10-2014, 02:53 PM
I didn't agree with this at first, but I do now after watching all the clips on him.
we're going to have a red zone offense that will feature passes that are taller than yardage thrown for you know. Just run a few steps turn around and get in rebounding position.

Texecutioner
05-10-2014, 03:05 PM
Gronk II is coming to Houston! He's also the blocking TE that the Texans have been looking for.

Gronk started out as arguably the best TE to ever play, and you're going to automatically call this guy the next Gronk? Lol! :user:

I like the pick though. I'm glad we got a TE that Bill likes. I wouldn't call anyone the next Gronk though. That's not fair to any rookie player.

CloakNNNdagger
05-10-2014, 04:51 PM
He caught 45 passes for 433 yards, which were both career highs. He finished third on the team in both stats but collected only one touchdown. Iowa as a team had a total of seven touchdown passes in 2012. It was a team problem.

He'll fit right in here....:kitten:


Last year he had a career high 7 TDS.

CloakNNNdagger
05-10-2014, 04:54 PM
Gronk started out as arguably the best TE to ever play, and you're going to automatically call this guy the next Gronk? Lol! :user:

I like the pick though. I'm glad we got a TE that Bill likes. I wouldn't call anyone the next Gronk though. That's not fair to any rookie player.

My obvious hyperbole was out of excitement and referring to the type of TE. How he stands up to Gronk once in the NFL is to be seen........but he has some good pieces to start off his journey.

Playoffs
05-10-2014, 06:49 PM
All of the Patriots writers compared Fiedorowicz to Gronk (http://bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2014/05/iowas_cj_fiedorowicz_good_insurance_for_gronk) -- player comparisons just give an idea of what the kid might become for those who don't watch tape or follow college football much.

WolverineFan
05-11-2014, 12:11 PM
It seems that many of you don't quite grasp how important the TE is in O'Brien's offense. In his only year as the Pats OC (2011), Gronk caught 90 passes and Hernandez caught 79. The year before he got bumped to OC (2010), those two guys combined for 87 catches. In both years at Penn State, 3 of his top 6 pass catchers were TE's.

The guy utilizes TE's and TE was a huge area of need for us in the talent department. Sure we have numbers, but do Griffin and Graham really scare people? I don't think so. Fiedorowicz brings an added dimension as an in-line blocker and receiver. Griffin has potential in those same areas, but it's just potential right now. Graham is an H-Back who will be moving around the formation a lot and not really playing in-line.

Oh and Fido will definitely be the #1 TE this year.

Goldensilence
05-11-2014, 01:20 PM
Initially thought it was early to take a TE, but after reading over the scouting report and my lack of excitement over resigning Graham. I became excited about this pick. Glad we have another person on offense who can actually create mismatches.

phantom17
05-11-2014, 09:17 PM
I really like this pick! It's a classic OB type TE, smart, big, fast, soft hands, & can block! Finally a TE that can create mismatches! A grade. :swatter:

thunderkyss
05-11-2014, 10:07 PM
I thought it was goofy to go into the last two seasons with 3 TEs in a two TE offense.

Doesn't make sense.

The Pencil Neck
05-11-2014, 10:46 PM
I thought it was goofy to go into the last two seasons with 3 TEs in a two TE offense.

Doesn't make sense.

Same here.

thunderkyss
05-12-2014, 04:10 AM
All About the 'Y' Tight End

If you're going to contribute as a "Y" tight end for the New England Patriots, you need enough size to be an effective blocker and create mismatches in the passing game.

Troy Niklas measured in at the combine at 6'6" and 270 pounds, with 34.25" arms and 10" hands. Those are prototypical numbers for the position. Rob Gronkowski came in at 6'6", 264 pounds, 34.25" arms and massive 10.75" hands at the 2010 NFL Scouting Combine.

C.J. Fiedorowicz nearly matched Niklas, but he came up short at 6'5" and 265 pounds with 33" arms and 10.25" hands. It doesn't show up on tape, but the shorter arms are a disadvantage when blocking on the edge.

Speed isn't the top priority for a "Y" tight end, but Rob Gronkowski has shown that huge guys that can run fast are tough to stop. Neither of these three have speed that approaches Gronkowski-territory.

Only Fiedorowicz was able to run the 40-yard dash at the combine—Niklas and Seferian-Jenkins were both nursing injuries—and clocked a solid 4.76 mark. Niklas will likely run in the same range at his pro timing day, while Seferian-Jenkins has a chance to break the 4.7 barrier.

Fiedorowicz impressed with a 7.10 three-cone drill—top among tight ends at the combine—while Niklas' 7.57 time might have been due to his injury. Seferian-Jenkins didn't participate in any running events in Indianapolis.

If tight ends can't block effectively, the offense loses the ability to use "12" personnel as both an effective running and passing personnel grouping. That duality causes defenses all kinds of problems, especially when the Patriots go no-huddle.

Fiedorowicz sets himself apart in his pass-blocking. Where Fiedorowicz—coached up by former Belichick coaches Kirk and Brian Ferentz at Iowa—remains solid moving backwards, Niklas can get sloppy in his pass sets. On occasion, he will get put on skates when edge-rushers try power moves.

As important as blocking is, tight ends in the New England Patriots' offense have to be able to get open and catch the football.

C.J. Fiedorowicz isn't as dynamic as Niklas—that may be in part to the conservative Iowa offense—but what he does, he does well. He runs curls and outs as good as any tight end in the NFL and is extremely effective at getting open in the red zone. He could have notched a few more touchdowns his senior season if the Iowa quarterback hadn't chosen to run touchdowns in himself.

If the Patriots want a polished player that can fit in as a rookie without any hiccups, Fiedorowicz should be the pick.

beerlover
05-12-2014, 06:38 AM
A better comp for Fiedorowicz is Heath Miller of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was their first round selection in 2005. 6050 256 both sound route running wall off pass receivers who stay in-line blocking schemes. Like all positions they just evolve with time. I've watched plenty of game tape & he backed it up with solid workout/combine showing better than expected athletic ability.

Scooter
05-12-2014, 07:17 AM
looks a whole lot like heath miller

I think he is a bit more like Heath Miller from the Steelers.

If I were to compare him to an NFL player you might be more familiar with how about Pittsburgh Steeler Heath Miller, selected in the 1st rd. 30th overall in 2005. Two time Pro-Bowler, 40TD's & 5,279 yards while being primarily Big Ben's pass blocker.

i actually think he'll be better than miller, but it wouldnt surprise me if he was similarly under appreciated - and similarly a pivotal piece of the offense.

thunderkyss
05-12-2014, 08:09 AM
I like our TE group.

Zach Potter 6'7" 265
Fiedorowicz 6'6" 262
Griffin 6'6" 254
Phillip Supernaw 6'5" 248
Garrett Graham 6'3" 243
Brad Smiley 6'2" 235

TheRealJoker
05-12-2014, 01:28 PM
I like our TE group.

Zach Potter 6'7" 265
Fiedorowicz 6'6" 262
Griffin 6'6" 254
Phillip Supernaw 6'5" 248
Garrett Graham 6'3" 243
Brad Smiley 6'2" 235

Big is beautiful!

Playoffs
05-12-2014, 01:31 PM
I like our TE group...

Brad Smiley 6'2" 235

"Smiley" is Smelley.

http://wscont1.apps.microsoft.com/winstore/1x/a14c3995-34d7-454c-82e2-0c192e48b91a/Icon.173718.png ...... :cheese:

TheRealJoker
06-05-2014, 06:54 PM
Thinking of Fiedo and Prosch blocking in the run game is gonna be exciting! We get to be the bully! So long finesse offense... hello smash mouth!

drs23
06-05-2014, 07:02 PM
Thinking of Fiedo and Prosch blocking in the run game is gonna be exciting! We get to be the bully! So long finesse offense... hello smash mouth!

What's that wanna be-hasn't really ever been Jamie Pukes, eerrrr, Dukes gonna rag about now?

Oh yeah, the QB situation and he's already started on that. That cat gives me a rash. BIG TIME!

At times I wish I would have been gifted enough and big enough to have taken even one NFL snap because I'd be much better at his job than he is. :kitten:

Seegara
06-05-2014, 08:01 PM
Thinking of Fiedo and Prosch blocking in the run game is gonna be exciting! We get to be the bully! So long finesse offense... hello smash mouth!
If this Feido turns out to be another Dave Casper we won't see any complaints about his drafting.

Norg
06-05-2014, 08:13 PM
I seen dis guy at the airport dis dude is monster big hes like has tall or taller then gronk or Graham

Playoffs
08-04-2014, 11:10 PM
Fiedorowicz wants to be all-around TE (http://www.csnhouston.com/football-houston-texans/talk/fiedorowicz-wants-be-all-around-te)
They also drafted C.J. Fiedorowicz with the first pick in the third round, 65th overall. Listed at 6-5, and 265 pounds, Fiedorowicz is noticeably bigger than Graham and Griffin and he used that size to be recognized as one of the better blocking tight ends available in this past year's draft.

However, Fiedorowicz, has looked like much more than that through the Texans' offseason workouts and now into training camp and he's ready to prove he can handle all aspects of the tight end's job in this offense...


9. Ryan Griffin had a nice rookie season last year but it’s pretty easy to see the way the team thinks about C.J. Fiedorowicz (http://www.csnhouston.com/football-houston-texans/talk/10-observations-day-8-texans-camp), the rookie from Iowa. He already seems like the tight end who will be on the other side of Garrett Graham in two-tight end sets.

>>>C.J. Fiedorowicz is closing the gap (http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/08/04/camp-confidential-day-nine-8-4/) between him and Ryan Griffin. After Garrett Graham, he took the majority of the first team reps today. Fiedorowicz said after practice he likes to pattern his game after Rob Gronkowski.

“I just like the way he plays,” Fiedorowicz said. “He’s a guy who can dominate the run game but also the pass game. I just like how he’s a well rounded old school tight end. He’s not afraid to get dirty.”
:logo:

infantrycak
08-04-2014, 11:35 PM
Personally I'd like to see CJ and Griffin in 2 te sets with Graham watching.

Thorn
08-04-2014, 11:57 PM
Personally I'd like to see CJ and Griffin in 2 te sets with Graham watching.

Interesting, I like Griffin and am looking forward to see CJ in action. At least it's good to know we have respectable TEs.

sandman
08-05-2014, 03:11 AM
Personally I'd like to see CJ and Griffin in 2 te sets with Graham watching.

I've been favoring Griffin over Graham for a while now. I like he and CJ are big guys with hands. Graham to me is like a big slot receiver.

barrett
08-05-2014, 02:54 PM
Don't forget that Zach Potter is huge, too. When I was at camp I kept getting him and Feidorowicz confused.

thunderkyss
08-05-2014, 03:37 PM
I've been favoring Griffin over Graham for a while now. I like he and CJ are big guys with hands. Graham to me is like a big slot receiver.

I think of Graham like Mark Bruenner. A bird in the hand. I wouldn't cut him. I wouldn't spend a lot of money to keep him either. & I'm always looking for someone better.

xtruroyaltyx
08-05-2014, 04:11 PM
Graham said when we re-signed him OB told him he saw him as the "move" TE in this offense.

I'll be interested to see how Graham performs in a carved out role for him.

beerlover
08-05-2014, 07:02 PM
safest pick in the draft after Matthews :shades:

DocBar
08-05-2014, 07:43 PM
safest pick in the draft after Matthews :shades::shades: Did you really mean that? :clown:

beerlover
08-05-2014, 08:48 PM
:shades: Did you really mean that? :clown:

Cronk clone without injury/off field issues, don't you think O'Brian will build the offense around his skill set to some degree ala as he did with Patriots to make Rob Gronkowski a star and he's probably the closest comparison to Fiedorowicz already in the league?

DocBar
08-05-2014, 09:11 PM
If he is a Cronk clone without the injury's & off field issues don't you think O'Brian will build the offense around his skill set to some degree ala as he did with Patriots to make Rob Gronkowski a star and he's probably the closest comparison to Fiedorowicz already in the league?If is a pretty big word.

beerlover
08-06-2014, 02:53 AM
If is a pretty big word.

cleaned it up like a knee scope :barman:

thunderkyss
08-06-2014, 09:16 PM
Cronk clone without injury/off field issues, don't you think O'Brian will build the offense around his skill set to some degree ala as he did with Patriots to make Rob Gronkowski a star and he's probably the closest comparison to Fiedorowicz already in the league?

Weren't the Patriots pretty good before Gronk? Weren't they pretty good after? I mean when he gets hurt & can't finish out the season, don't the Pats continue to roll?

If you find a Gronkowski, you'd be pretty stupid not to take advantage or the advantages he gives you. But I don't think you go out looking for him & building your entire offense around him.

DocBar
08-06-2014, 09:42 PM
Weren't the Patriots pretty good before Gronk? Weren't they pretty good after? I mean when he gets hurt & can't finish out the season, don't the Pats continue to roll?

If you find a Gronkowski, you'd be pretty stupid not to take advantage or the advantages he gives you. But I don't think you go out looking for him & building your entire offense around him.MSR! Good points!!

Playoffs
08-17-2014, 06:03 PM
(on rookie TE C.J. Fiedorowicz) “He’s a big, strong, physical player. Intelligent player for a rookie.

He’s come in here and learned the system well. He’s a good blocker. He did a good job in the passing game. We’ve got to change his hands a little bit on how he catches a couple of those balls. But we’ll work on that a little bit more with him.

He caught the ball. He knew the depth of the route. He knew whether it was man or zone. So he made a big improvement off of the Arizona game. He made a big improvement and now he’s just got to keep improving. But we like what we see with him.”
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-Bill-OBrien-on-Sunday/2fa17837-9872-44c0-98a0-0a80052ac328

Playoffs
09-05-2014, 02:06 PM
Deepi Sidhu @DeepSlant
OB likes Fiedorowicz for his toughness: I think he's got a chance to be a good player. He's just got to keep doing what he's doing.

C.J. Fiedorowicz will be start if Graham can't. Has impressed OB who says he's become a better blocker & improved in passing game each week.
Dale Robertson @sportywineguy
BOB: For a rookie TE, CJ has does a great job. Instinctive guy, tough kid. Well coached in college. Improved every week in passing game.

You can tell OB really likes this kid. He held back a bit of a grin when being questioned about starting the rookie, how he's handled himself so far.

bah007
09-07-2014, 10:53 AM
Fiedorowicz is better than given credit for. He's not flashy or exciting so I get it. But he's going to be a very good player for us. He was my #1 TE target for us in this draft.

IDEXAN
09-07-2014, 10:57 AM
Fiedorowicz is better than given credit for. He's not flashy or exciting so I get it. But he's going to be a very good player for us. He was my #1 TE target for us in this draft.

Do we know yet if he's starting today ? I guess it hinges on the availability of Garret, and they didn't seem hopeful that he'd be able to play ?

amazing80
09-07-2014, 10:58 AM
Do we know yet if he's starting today ? I guess it hinges on the availability of Garret, and they didn't seem hopeful that he'd be able to play ?

I think we won't find out until closer to 11

Playoffs
09-07-2014, 11:23 AM
Do we know yet if he's starting today ? I guess it hinges on the availability of Garret, and they didn't seem hopeful that he'd be able to play ?

Albert Breer @AlbertBreer
... Fiedorowicz would indeed project to the Gronk role in O'Brien's offense. Told me Gronk was the reason he asked to wear 87.

Fiedorowicz told me Friday he's watched Rob Gronkowski tape since he was at Iowa, where his position coach Aaron Hernandez's older bro DJ. ...

Per source, Texans TE Garrett Graham will not play today. That means rookie CJ Fiedorowicz is likely to get the start for Houston.

badboy
09-07-2014, 08:08 PM
did not perform as I hoped but still a fan of his.

TheRealJoker
09-07-2014, 08:13 PM
Really surprised he and Griffin didn't get more targets.

bah007
09-08-2014, 09:29 AM
did not perform as I hoped but still a fan of his.

Did you watch or just look at the stats?

He was used primarily as a blocker when he was in and did a fantastic job. Was only targeted once in the passing game and Fitz missed him by a mile.

bah007
09-08-2014, 09:30 AM
Really surprised he and Griffin didn't get more targets.

As am I but Andre and Hopkins were getting open pretty consistently. The passing game was better than I expected it to be.

IDEXAN
09-08-2014, 09:42 AM
Did you watch or just look at the stats?

He was used primarily as a blocker when he was in and did a fantastic job. Was only targeted once in the passing game and Fitz missed him by a mile.
Right. And I watched him on a couple plays, and he did well, he's a very capable blocker. But I'm sure his ops as a receiver will come in time.

Playoffs
09-08-2014, 10:07 AM
Thought he did well, just wasn't a target of the gameplan.

beerlover
09-08-2014, 10:57 AM
Feido was solid in his blocking assignments. I really don't think Garrett when he comes back would replace him in starting line-up, more likely Griffin, dude is a beast :inneganned:

gtexan02
09-08-2014, 11:06 AM
I would have hoped for more of an impact from a 3rd round rookie on a 2-14 team. He showed a lot of receiving ability in the preseason -- was that because of vanilla defense or did Fitz just not look for him?

Blocking is ncie from a TE, but if the opposing team doesn't respect him as a receiver, it means a lot more stacked fronts

bah007
09-08-2014, 12:39 PM
I would have hoped for more of an impact from a 3rd round rookie on a 2-14 team. He showed a lot of receiving ability in the preseason -- was that because of vanilla defense or did Fitz just not look for him?

Blocking is ncie from a TE, but if the opposing team doesn't respect him as a receiver, it means a lot more stacked fronts

I think it has more to do with Graham being the expected starter up until right before the game. C.J. wasn't part of the game plan. He filled in and did what they asked him to.

WolverineFan
09-08-2014, 12:43 PM
He was left in to block quite a bit. O'Brien is obviously concerned about protection and is relying on his two stud WR's to do the work and get open. I thought he did a very good job blocking. There were a few run plays to his side where he turned the DE and sealed him outside and gave Foster a huge lane off tackle. He will be more involved in the passing game as the season goes on.

Playoffs
09-08-2014, 12:47 PM
Looks like we targeted the TEs just 3 times(out of 21) for 1 catch. From watching NE with Gronk/Ahern etc. I guess I was expecting more, but we played to our strengths AJ & Nuk.

21 attempts is kind of pitiful looking in today's game. Flacco had twice that. :kubepalm:

bah007
09-08-2014, 12:49 PM
He was left in to block quite a bit. O'Brien is obviously concerned about protection and is relying on his two stud WR's to do the work and get open. I thought he did a very good job blocking. There were a few run plays to his side where he turned the DE and sealed him outside and gave Foster a huge lane off tackle. He will be more involved in the passing game as the season goes on.

I agree.

I think they want Graham to work out because they just paid him. But it's been pretty obvious to me that he's our third best TE.

I'd like to see them start rolling with C.J. and Griffin regularly.

WolverineFan
09-08-2014, 12:54 PM
I agree.

I think they want Graham to work out because they just paid him. But it's been pretty obvious to me that he's our third best TE.

I'd like to see them start rolling with C.J. and Griffin regularly.

I agree. I won't be surprised if we use an early pick on a move TE this year or next year. Graham is just not athletic enough to be a weapon at that position.

Mollywhopper
09-08-2014, 01:05 PM
Looks like we targeted the TEs just 3 times(out of 21) for 1 catch. From watching NE with Gronk/Ahern etc. I guess I was expecting more, but we played to our strengths AJ & Nuk.

21 attempts is kind of pitiful looking in today's game. Flacco had twice that. :kubepalm:

Looking forward to Fiedo getting more involved as the season progresses, but throwing 22 times in a game we trailed for only about a min and a half is probably the blue print right now.

A certain QB in the pacific northwest has only averaged 25 attempts a game for his career so far. Been doin the trick for him ... idonno: