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HouSportsWriter
03-21-2014, 05:19 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/klewis23/status/447109911512481792?screen_name=klewis23

Thoughts?

Please forgive my misspelling of the word safety.

Porky
03-21-2014, 05:20 PM
Congrats Bra?

Is there something I should know about Mr. Lewis? :kitten:

michaelm
03-21-2014, 05:21 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/klewis23/status/447109911512481792?screen_name=klewis23

Thoughts?

Please forgive my misspelling of the word safety.

Drafted by KC when Crennel was the DC, I think.

Vance87
03-21-2014, 05:21 PM
:trophy:...?

TheIronDuke
03-21-2014, 05:23 PM
Drafted 5th round in 2010, FS, JAG.

The Chiefs aren't expected to re-sign safety Kendrick Lewis, reports ESPN.com. Lewis "had a big hand" in the secondary giving up "one long pass play after another last season," the report said.

Lewis had 56 tackles and an interception in 2013.


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1137460/kendrick-lewis

TexansSeminole
03-21-2014, 05:24 PM
Never noticed him before but he is probably better than our depth at safety.

HouSportsWriter
03-21-2014, 05:24 PM
With this signing. I would not be surprised if we cut Manning.

Edit

Since Manning is still not 100% healthy, and has a decent sized contract.

_King_
03-21-2014, 05:25 PM
Don't think KC will miss him

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=538422

bckey
03-21-2014, 05:32 PM
Unless he makes a miraculous turnaround hopefully he is just camp completion.

Playoffs
03-21-2014, 05:32 PM
Lewis was rated 52nd/85 Safetys overall in 2013 (>25% snaps) by PFF.

That would be ahead of Swearing and Keo and just behind Manning. (And ahead of Quintin Demps, KC) So below average. 2012 he was bottom 10.

amazing80
03-21-2014, 05:36 PM
Lewis was rated 52nd/85 Safetys overall in 2013 (>25% snaps) by PFF.

That would be ahead of Swearing and Keo and just behind Manning. (And ahead of Quintin Demps, KC)

And that includes a terrible 3 game stretch to end the season. Remember the bomb from Luck to TY in the playoffs, yea Lewis was responsible for that lol....hopefully Romeo gets him playing like he was in 2010 as a rookie with Romeo as his DC

Nitrofish
03-21-2014, 05:37 PM
With this signing. I would not be surprised if we cut Manning.

Edit

Since Manning is still not 100% healthy, and has a decent sized contract.

This is what I was thinking. I would not be surprised.

NastyNate
03-21-2014, 05:43 PM
If he keeps keo off the field I'm all for it. Please don't cut manning though.

imatexan
03-21-2014, 06:05 PM
With this signing. I would not be surprised if we cut Manning.

Edit

Since Manning is still not 100% healthy, and has a decent sized contract.

I sure hope not, Manning is one of our few solid starts left.

honored82
03-21-2014, 06:14 PM
I hope he beats Keo. we just upgraded our depth.

dream_team
03-21-2014, 06:21 PM
I sure hope not, Manning is one of our few solid starts left.

Agreed! If anyone, Pleasant or Keo should be worried.

CloakNNNdagger
03-21-2014, 06:24 PM
Lewis had numerous nagging lower limb injuries in his earlier career. But December 2011, he sustained a torn pectoral muscle and required major shoulder reconstructive surgery in January 2012 (likely other structures were involved). Later that year, in a preseason game, he re-injured that same shoulder (purportedly another type of injury) which did not go to surgery. However, he ended up missing 7 games during that season. Since this last re-injury, he has not resembled anywhere close to the player he was prior. Last year's pass defense and INTs have been quite contrasting to preinjury level. It's awfully difficult to PD and INT when you can't raise your arms quickly and fully. It would not surprise me if he has continued to rehab, trying to put off a necessary secondary surgery.

A study of NFL players demonstrated that despite surgery and prolonged rehab, a Grade III shoulder pectoral muscle tear (which is the only only that would typically require surgery) will leave a significant percentage of these players with significant strength deficits. Furthermore, additional limitations of range of motion may result.

IDEXAN
03-21-2014, 06:29 PM
If he keeps keo off the field I'm all for it. Please don't cut manning though.
I really thought they'd get rid of Manning, but so far he's still with us so maybe they are going to retain him. But as far as Keo goes, his days might be numbered. But then I might get fooled and they keep Keo and release Manning,
we'll see, but I don't think so ?

Porky
03-21-2014, 06:29 PM
I love how the offseason is basically all about trading out pig turds for cow turds.

bah007
03-21-2014, 06:37 PM
Small upgrade at S depth. He's the third best Safety on this roster.

Hopefully this spells the end for Keo.

_King_
03-21-2014, 06:42 PM
I think Manning might get cut...

WolverineFan
03-21-2014, 06:44 PM
He's not a starting caliber talent (as he proved in KC) but he's a viable 3rd Safety and an upgrade on Keo.

Depends on the financials, but on the surface I like this move. Manning, Swearinger, & Lewis is a pretty decent Safety group.

TheMatrix31
03-21-2014, 06:49 PM
It would be joyous if Shiloh Keo gets cut.

ArlingtonTexan
03-21-2014, 07:14 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/21/texans-add-chiefs-safety-kendrick-lewis/

TexansSeminole
03-21-2014, 07:26 PM
I think Manning might get cut...

I really doubt it. Without him, you're looking at an epically bad defense. He's off the books after this year anyway.

BullNation4Life
03-21-2014, 07:50 PM
I really doubt it. Without him, you're looking at an epically bad defense. He's off the books after this year anyway.

What would be the difference, I think the Texans D has played more without Manning than with due to injuries.

This may be a June 1st cut

TexansSeminole
03-21-2014, 07:52 PM
What would be the difference, I think the Texans D has played more without Manning than with due to injuries.

This may be a June 1st cut

Would there be any difference if he were a June 1st cut or not? This is the last year of his deal.

But yes, Manning makes this defense better.

_King_
03-21-2014, 07:54 PM
I really doubt it. Without him, you're looking at an epically bad defense. He's off the books after this year anyway.

I don't think Lewis is coming here to accept the role of a back up and I don't thing dj is going anywhere.

I think we save 4 mil this year if we cut manning.

This is a crennel guy. He's young. Probably will be competing with a rookie for starting FS spot.

Manning was injured, older and he wasn't even all that when he was playing.

leebigeztx
03-21-2014, 07:55 PM
Small upgrade at S depth. He's the third best Safety on this roster.

Hopefully this spells the end for Keo.

Keo goes back to his role as a st player

WolverineFan
03-21-2014, 08:00 PM
What would be the difference, I think the Texans D has played more without Manning than with due to injuries.

This may be a June 1st cut

I really don't see the point in doing a June 1st cut to a guy who has one year left on his deal.

DocBar
03-21-2014, 08:06 PM
Maybe going FS in the 2nd or 3rd? :chef:

TexansSeminole
03-21-2014, 08:26 PM
I don't think Lewis is coming here to accept the role of a back up and I don't thing dj is going anywhere.

I think we save 4 mil this year if we cut manning.

This is a crennel guy. He's young. Probably will be competing with a rookie for starting FS spot.

Manning was injured, older and he wasn't even all that when he was playing.

Agreed, Manning isn't "all that," but I would have to believe that he is better than Lewis at FS. Unless we plan on using the money Manning saves us this year, there's no point in cutting him.

Lucky
03-21-2014, 08:34 PM
Agreed, Manning isn't "all that," but I would have to believe that he is better than Lewis at FS. Unless we plan on using the money Manning saves us this year, there's no point in cutting him.
Just looked and cutting Manning would save $4.5 million. Couldn't have gotten Byrd with that, but might get Thomas DeCoud.

TexansSeminole
03-21-2014, 08:39 PM
Just looked and cutting Manning would save $4.5 million. Couldn't have gotten Byrd with that, but might get Thomas DeCoud.

Ehhhh, I don't know how worth it that would be, obviously depending on the contract. I don't expect to be competitive next year, so we are looking at a guy that is 30 when we start the 2015 season. I'm not against that move though.

Someone like Quin would be well worth it though. Oh yeah, we let the Lions do that deal.

PHILLYTEXANFAN
03-21-2014, 09:03 PM
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/06/three-years-of-tackling-efficiency-defensive-backs/

Scroll to bottom to find Lewis


Your man... Pots and pans

mussop
03-21-2014, 09:14 PM
Agreed! If anyone, Pleasant or Keo should be worried.

Definitely Keo.

DocBar
03-21-2014, 09:17 PM
Ehhhh, I don't know how worth it that would be, obviously depending on the contract. I don't expect to be competitive next year, so we are looking at a guy that is 30 when we start the 2015 season. I'm not against that move though.

Someone like Quin would be well worth it though. Oh yeah, we let the Lions do that deal.I expect the Texans to be competitive next in 2014. The team has talent. Not at every position, but what team does?

IMO, the coaching changes will help this team overacheive in 2014.

TexansSeminole
03-21-2014, 09:22 PM
I expect the Texans to be competitive next in 2014. The team has talent. Not at every position, but what team does?

IMO, the coaching changes will help this team overacheive in 2014.

I sure hope so. We really need to nail this draft, and the rookies that were injured last season need to show out.

CloakNNNdagger
03-21-2014, 11:15 PM
Well, there goes the cap!!!!!:kitten:

Mark Berman @MarkBermanFox26


Free agent safety Kendrick Lewis gets a one-year contract from the Texans worth $795,000 which includes $100,000 guaranteed.


Makes it more likely Manning goes nowhere.

False Start
03-21-2014, 11:35 PM
He has to be better than Keo..... right? idonno:

powda
03-22-2014, 12:03 AM
I expect the Texans to be competitive next in 2014. The team has talent. Not at every position, but what team does?

IMO, the coaching changes will help this team overacheive in 2014.

Qb play between 2012 and now is to drastic. Defense is learning its idenity and the ol is a work in progress. We have talent sure, but no promises anywhere.

ArlingtonTexan
03-22-2014, 12:08 AM
Well, there goes the cap!!!!!:kitten:




Makes it more likely Manning goes nowhere.


Not only is that not starting money, but it is we can cut you tomorrow and not think a thing about it money.

BullNation4Life
03-22-2014, 12:20 AM
Well, there goes the cap!!!!!:kitten:




Makes it more likely Manning goes nowhere.

yeah that sounds like a depth move rather than a position change...

ObsiWan
03-22-2014, 09:08 AM
yeah that sounds like a depth move rather than a position change...
Depth and, hopefully, familiarity with Crennel's defense which few (none?) of the holdovers from Wade's bunch currently have.

PapaL
03-22-2014, 09:33 AM
Every team has a sorry ass safety. We just signed someone else. On the bright side, someone signed Ed Reed so it balances out.

TheIronDuke
03-22-2014, 05:07 PM
Every team has a sorry ass safety. We just signed someone else. On the bright side, someone signed Ed Reed so it balances out.

We already have one and maybe 2 if Swearinger cant improve!

False Start
03-23-2014, 01:48 AM
I think Manning might get cut...

I hope not, and dont think he will. I think he has something left.

TexansSeminole
03-23-2014, 02:39 AM
I hope not, and dont think he will. I think he has something left.

I think people are forgetting that he was a significant contributor for us. He wasn't a pro bowl player by any means, but he's the best safety on our roster.

aussie_texan
03-23-2014, 03:03 AM
no way does manning get cut. his still a very solid contributor for this team.

i suspect that we'll go into the season with Manning, Swearinger, Keo, Lewis and pleseant as our safeties. which is pretty good really

IDEXAN
03-23-2014, 11:21 AM
How does Crennel handle the safties in his defense, who knows ? Does he have 2 clearly defined positions/roles where one is at the los, a box safety, playing a strong safety role while the other is a traditional FS (free safety) who's the centerfielder in the secondary. Or does he play it like Phillips where the 2 safety positions are very much interchangeable ?
Obviously DJ is more of a traditional SS, which always made his selection for Wade's defense a dubious one.

thunderkyss
03-23-2014, 12:07 PM
no way does manning get cut. his still a very solid contributor for this team.


I soured on Manning before I soured on Jjo... I'd cut him.

i suspect that we'll go into the season with Manning, Swearinger, Keo, Lewis and pleseant as our safeties. which is pretty good really

I think Keo was one of those, "the coaches are too invovled in the draft" picks. I don't think he'll make the team.

How does Crennel handle the safties in his defense, who knows ?

Good question.

Playoffs
03-23-2014, 02:39 PM
Lewis had numerous nagging lower limb injuries in his earlier career. But December 2011, he sustained a torn pectoral muscle and required major shoulder reconstructive surgery in January 2012 (likely other structures were involved). Later that year, in a preseason game, he re-injured that same shoulder (purportedly another type of injury) which did not go to surgery. However, he ended up missing 7 games during that season. Since this last re-injury, he has not resembled anywhere close to the player he was prior. Last year's pass defense and INTs have been quite contrasting to preinjury level. It's awfully difficult to PD and INT when you can't raise your arms quickly and fully. It would not surprise me if he has continued to rehab, trying to put off a necessary secondary surgery.

A study of NFL players demonstrated that despite surgery and prolonged rehab, a Grade III shoulder pectoral muscle tear (which is the only only that would typically require surgery) will leave a significant percentage of these players with significant strength deficits. Furthermore, additional limitations of range of motion may result.

Hence the dropoff from his promising 2010-11 production to the lesser 2012-on. Crennel was HC for 2012.

Texian
03-23-2014, 03:45 PM
Lewis is another step backwards.

infantrycak
03-23-2014, 04:05 PM
Lewis is another step backwards.

Lewis isn't a step anywhere.

PHILLYTEXANFAN
03-23-2014, 08:44 PM
I soured on Manning before I soured on Jjo... I'd cut him.







I think Keo was one of those, "the coaches are too invovled in the draft" picks. I don't think he'll make the team.







Good question.


My buddy who is a hardcore Chiefs fan said RAC uses his Safeties as generally 2 deep and will blitz them on occasion



Your man... Pots and pans

aussie_texan
03-24-2014, 03:14 AM
I soured on Manning before I soured on Jjo... I'd cut him.



I think Keo was one of those, "the coaches are too invovled in the draft" picks. I don't think he'll make the team.



Good question.

manning's contract isnt great but there is no one better out there at the moment. his cap isnt killing us so thats why i keep him.

Keo has been steadily improving each year i dont think you cut players like that, he will be valuable on STs and depth

Playoffs
03-24-2014, 03:09 PM
Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider
Kendrick Lewis one-year Texans deal: $795,000, $730,000 salary, $65,000 roster bonus, $35,000 of base salary guaranteed


So Lewis & Powe = $35,000 guaranteed money. http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130427115144/wildonesgame/images/a/aa/Bag_Of_Peanuts.png

BullNation4Life
03-25-2014, 12:32 AM
Heard on the radio this morning that if Shilo Keo is 5 outta 10, then Kendrick Lewis is like a 5.3...

KC Fans say that rating is too high for Kendrick Lewis because he is complete garbage....


Must be a Romeo guy...

Playoffs
06-06-2014, 11:09 AM
Houston a 2nd home for Lewis after hurricane Katrina (http://www.csnhouston.com/football-houston-texans/talk/houston-2nd-home-lewis-after-katrina)

A young, scared Kendrick Lewis had his eyes glued to the television screen.

The new Texan was just 17-years-old in late August of 2005 when Hurricane Katrina ripped through and demolished his hometown of New Orleans. He had already evacuated to Houston with his uncle, whom he had been living with at the time, and his mom fled to Georgia, but Lewis hadn’t been able to contact some of his other relatives.

So he did the only thing he could: he watched the television, hoping and praying for a glimpse to know they were safe.

And finally, it came. He spotted his family boarding a Greyhound bus out of downtown New Orleans, away from the devastation.

“It was a big relief,” Lewis said. “I was sitting there crying back and forth, my uncle’s trying to keep me calm. But at the same time, I still had faith. I was just watching the news knowing that the news was filming the area that I was from. I was like man, ‘if I’ma see them, I’ma see them on this news, and I sat there and just constantly, constantly watched them and I just saw them getting on the bus.”

The reporter on the news program said the bus was heading for Houston and Reliant Stadium, so Lewis was there when it arrived.
...
“(Houston) showed us major love,” Lewis said. “A family took my grandmother and them in that didn’t know them from Adam and Eve. They took them in with welcome arms and treated us like we were (family), fed us day in and day out, no complaints. And whenever we were able and my grandmother (was) able to get on their feet and make the move to get out of their house, that’s when they let it be done. But as much as we needed them, they were there for us.”
...
It’s just special for Lewis to get a chance to play in and for a city that meant and still means so much to him.

“That’s why I say, man, everything happens for a reason, man,” Lewis said. “And God has a plan for you and can’t nothing change it. All the chips fell where they may. I thought about it and everything that I put into as far as making this decision here, it all was positives. It was nothing negative about me making this move in free agency to come here. I just went with my heart, went with my gut and I made the decision.”