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2slik4u
03-03-2014, 11:05 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dcyWb

At 6'8" - 240lbs, he a big dude.

beerlover
03-03-2014, 11:09 PM
Denver would want a 1st :pop:

2slik4u
03-03-2014, 11:12 PM
Denver would want a 1st :pop:

You think so? Seems like a lot to give up. I guess he was a 2nd rounder two years ago but he's done nothing to warrant his bump in value.

Other than his gargantuan stature.

PapaL
03-03-2014, 11:25 PM
Seems we might not be so sold on this years QB class.

thunderkyss
03-03-2014, 11:48 PM
This is Rick Smith telling Belichick we're not waiting on one particular QB. Same to Cassell's agent.

CloakNNNdagger
03-04-2014, 12:12 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dcyWb

At 6'8" - 240lbs, he a big dude.

This is one QB trade I could really get behind. No much experience outside the shotgun with some problems reading defenses and ball security and sometimes looks like he had 2 left feet. But a strong arm, accurate (leading his receivers uncannily well), mobile enough..............and he grew an inch since the Combine?:texflag:

Allstar
03-04-2014, 01:27 AM
Don't know if there's much to this. It's Rick Smith's duty to explore every avenue when we are in the market for a QB. Doesn't mean we're not drafting one at 1.1.

kiwitexansfan
03-04-2014, 02:49 AM
Don't know if there's much to this. It's Rick Smith's duty to explore every avenue when we are in the market for a QB. Doesn't mean we're not drafting one at 1.1.

Due diligence. Not getting overly excited.

bah007
03-04-2014, 08:49 AM
Liked Osweiler coming out of college more than most people. And sitting behind Peyton is not a bad spot to be in. Hopefully he's soaking it up.

I like him a lot more than Mallett.

IDEXAN
03-04-2014, 09:23 AM
Big boy, OB could put him in the DC @ both QB & TE.
He's from Kalispell, Montana, i.e., "Big Sky" country and they've got some whopper Lake Trout in Flathead Lake near Kalispell.

Blake
03-04-2014, 09:27 AM
I have to question why Elway would draft Osweiler #57 overall as Manning's heir just to trade him a couple years later. Even if the Texans were truly interested in obtaining him, I dont think Denver would do it for a 2nd.

IDEXAN
03-04-2014, 09:56 AM
I have to question why Elway would draft Osweiler #57 overall as Manning's heir just to trade him a couple years later. Even if the Texans were truly interested in obtaining him, I dont think Denver would do it for a 2nd.
I dunno, maybe because the Texans' second round pick is the 33rd pick in the entire Draft which virtually makes it a late first round pick ?

thunderkyss
03-04-2014, 10:05 AM
Liked Osweiler coming out of college more than most people. And sitting behind Peyton is not a bad spot to be in. Hopefully he's soaking it up.

I like him a lot more than Mallett.

What do you think of Greg Knapp & Adam Gase (http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Knapp-Hired-as-Quarterbacks-Coach/7588dfa8-aed9-4ce7-bae6-3820521891ab)?

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. – The Broncos filled the coaching position that became vacant with Adam Gase’s promotion to offensive coordinator by hiring Greg Knapp as the team’s quarterbacks coach.
“Greg is a proven, experienced coach with a very impressive background working with quarterbacks,” Head Coach John Fox said. “He’s had success with Pro Bowlers and established players while also being instrumental in the development of younger quarterbacks. I’ve coached against him for a number of years and have a lot of respect for him. We are pleased to add someone of his caliber to our coaching staff.”
Knapp, who will enter his 19th NFL season in 2013, has served as an offensive coordinator in 10 of the past 12 seasons.
He is familiar with the AFC West, as he returned to the Oakland Raiders as the team’s offensive coordinator for the 2012 season after coaching two seasons at the same position with the Raiders during the 2007-08 seasons.
Knapp’s Raiders offense ranked in the top 10 in in both passing yards per game (8th, 255.3) and fewest sacks allowed per pass attempt (6th, 4.3 pct.), while quarterback Carson Palmer totaled the third-most passing yards (4,018) of his career in 2012.
Prior to his most recent stint with the Raiders, Knapp spent the 2010-11 seasons as the Houston Texans quarterbacks coach. He also served as the offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks (2009), Oakland Raiders (2007-08), Atlanta Falcons (2004-06) and San Francisco 49ers (2001-03). He was the 49ers quarterbacks from 1998-2000.
Knapp has coached three Pro Bowl quarterbacks to a total of six Pro Bowls as a position coach or offensive coordinator including Steve Young, Jeff Garcia and Michael Vick.
As Houston’s quarterbacks coach, Knapp developed Matt Schaub, who was a third-round pick of the Falcons in 2004, when Knapp was the team’s offensive coordinator. Schaub ranked fourth in the NFL with 4,370 passing yards under Knapp’s direction in 2010.

thunderkyss
03-04-2014, 10:11 AM
I have to question why Elway would draft Osweiler #57 overall as Manning's heir just to trade him a couple years later. Even if the Texans were truly interested in obtaining him, I dont think Denver would do it for a 2nd.

Never hurts to ask.

Every year there's some crazy trade that I like, & wonder if Rick Smith had a clue that the guy was on the trading block.

Nitrofish
03-04-2014, 10:30 AM
This is Rick Smith telling Belichick we're not waiting on one particular QB. Same to Cassell's agent.

I tend to agree with this, and think it could just be posturing, but there is a slim chance there is some interest.

Playoffs
03-04-2014, 10:44 AM
Inquiry possible...

Peter Burns ‏@PeterBurnsRadio
Was told that one of the teams interested in Brock Osweiler was the Houston #Texans...

Was told as many as 4 teams inquired about Brock Osweiler, #Broncos weren't interested.....
Not interested.

bah007
03-04-2014, 10:51 AM
What do you think of Greg Knapp & Adam Gase (http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Knapp-Hired-as-Quarterbacks-Coach/7588dfa8-aed9-4ce7-bae6-3820521891ab)?



Don't know enough about Gase to have a definitive opinion.

I don't think Knapp is as good as he used to be, but he used to be pretty darn good. I thought he worked wonders with Vick and Garcia.

thunderkyss
03-04-2014, 10:58 AM
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2013/0729/20130729__brock-osweiler-denver-broncos~p1.jpg

OT, but look at where Peyton holds the ball. To me, that's where it's supposed to be. For every "bit" lower, I take a point away in my grading system.

infantrycak
03-04-2014, 11:00 AM
Don't know enough about Gase to have a definitive opinion.

I don't think Knapp is as good as he used to be, but he used to be pretty darn good. I thought he worked wonders with Vick and Garcia.

Schaub went to the probowl the year before and the year after Knapp was with the Texans.

Hemlock
03-04-2014, 11:09 AM
Interesting. This makes me wonder if they aren't sold on any of the QBs in this draft.

bah007
03-04-2014, 11:12 AM
Schaub went to the probowl the year before and the year after Knapp was with the Texans.

Indeed.

I liked his work with Garcia the most. I think he did a great job with him.

I think he did a good job with Vick, who most people considered to be uncoachable.

Everything since then? Meh. Average to below average. I think the game has passed him by. I also don't agree with any assertion that he helped develop Schaub (like in the link TK posted). Schaub had the best year of his career the year before Knapp got here.

kingtexan
03-04-2014, 11:13 AM
Denver will not trade him. Inquire all you want.

Playoffs
03-04-2014, 11:19 AM
OT, but look at where Peyton holds the ball. To me, that's where it's supposed to be. For every "bit" lower, I take a point away in my grading system.
http://boston.sportsthenandnow.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/tom-brady-new-england-patriots2.jpg

-1 :kitten:

WolverineFan
03-04-2014, 11:22 AM
Seems we might not be so sold on this years QB class.

Ehh depends oh how you look at it. Osweiler has been sitting behind Manning for 2 years. I can see the appeal of using our first 2 picks on Clowney and Osweiler instead of drafting a rookie QB #1 and a less talented pass rusher #33.

b0ng
03-04-2014, 11:24 AM
Schaub went to the probowl the year before and the year after Knapp was with the Texans.

Knapp is a decent QB coach and eons ago when Vick was in ATL he was a good coordinator, but his 2 stints in Oakland and 1 in Seattle have shown that he's become ineffective as an OC.

w/r/t sitting behind Peyton, I don't really view that as the super positive that some people do. I know Jim Sorgi was a backup for what seemed like eternity there and he was never any good, and then they had the running clown show in 2011 that ultimately landed them Andrew Luck (Manning was there to educate them or whatever he does to his understudies. Probably gives them wedgies). Osweiler is still rather unknown and I have seen less of him than I have of this current QB class so I can't really offer an opinion of like or dislike of his ability to play football.

For the record I like this QB class and I usually don't like them so it's frustrating for me to watch this cat and mouse game played in the media leading up to draft day. Since draft day is now further back in the year, this offseason will seem particularly long and gruesome.

thunderkyss
03-04-2014, 11:25 AM
http://boston.sportsthenandnow.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/tom-brady-new-england-patriots2.jpg

-1 :kitten:

& he had a pretty low grade. & that's more like a -2


I'm not saying that a player has to grade perfect to be a success in the NFL. I'm saying the closer he is to Peyton, the more likely I believe he will succeed.

The Pencil Neck
03-04-2014, 01:09 PM
& he had a pretty low grade. & that's more like a -2


I'm not saying that a player has to grade perfect to be a success in the NFL. I'm saying the closer he is to Peyton, the more likely I believe he will succeed.

And like I pointed out to you, Aaron Rodgers held the ball up high like that in college but now that he's in the pros, he's improved his play... and he holds the ball lower, more like Brady does there.

You "counted" off on Bridgewater because he holds the ball like Brady and Rodgers.

Think about that for a second.

BullNation4Life
03-04-2014, 01:12 PM
Broncos are not going to let their heir apparent to Manning get away and have nothing waiting when Manning leaves...


I like the kid, big arm, good size...

infantrycak
03-04-2014, 01:51 PM
Broncos are not going to let their heir apparent to Manning get away and have nothing waiting when Manning leaves...

Unless Manning has told them he is leaving after 2015 the Broncos are in the same situation the Pats are - they will not be able to keep Mallett or Osweiler past their rookie contract without it becoming absurdly expensive. Those guys are going to want a starting gig.

DX-TEX
03-04-2014, 02:02 PM
Interesting. This makes me wonder if they aren't sold on any of the QBs in this draft.

Or its a smokescreen.....dun dun dun!

thunderkyss
03-04-2014, 03:20 PM
You "counted" off on Bridgewater because he holds the ball like Brady and Rodgers.

Think about that for a second.

& I'll take off points for being as tall as Brees, Wilson, or Rodgers.

ObsiWan
03-04-2014, 05:31 PM
What do you think of Greg Knapp & Adam Gase (http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Knapp-Hired-as-Quarterbacks-Coach/7588dfa8-aed9-4ce7-bae6-3820521891ab)?


Who are they trying to kid??
We all KNOW that Peyton is going to run that offense. QB coach and OC are both ceremonial positions as long as Peyton is your QB.
:kitten:

thunderkyss
03-04-2014, 06:19 PM
Who are they trying to kid??
We all KNOW that Peyton is going to run that offense. QB coach and OC are both ceremonial positions as long as Peyton is your QB.
:kitten:

I'm assuming while Peyton was running the offense, Knapp was trying to develop Osweiler.

ObsiWan
03-04-2014, 06:28 PM
I'm assuming while Peyton was running the offense, Knapp was trying to develop Osweiler.

aaahh... so it's a part-time job...


:kitten:

Lucky
03-04-2014, 08:33 PM
I can't get real excited about this. Never thought much of Osweiler at ASU. Don't know how much Peyton has rubbed off him in a couple of years. Sure, getting Clowney could take this defense to a special level. But, Osweiler feels like getting a Rob Johnson or Scott Mitchell. Without the production. He was never the player in college that Bridgewater or Manziel were.

PapaL
03-04-2014, 09:22 PM
I can't get real excited about this. Never thought much of Osweiler at ASU. Don't know how much Peyton has rubbed off him in a couple of years. Sure, getting Clowney could take this defense to a special level. But, Osweiler feels like getting a Rob Johnson or Scott Mitchell. Without the production. He was never the player in college that Bridgewater or Manziel were.

You must have forgotten what our QB play was like last year. Any name will generate interest.

Lucky
03-04-2014, 09:32 PM
You must have forgotten what our QB play was like last year. Any name will generate interest.
No, I remember 2013 all too well. Just thinking the Texans can find someone better than Osweiler to build around.

PHILLYTEXANFAN
03-04-2014, 11:07 PM
I'd rather inquire about Mike Glennon if he's not Lovies man


Your man... Pots and pans

Scooter
03-04-2014, 11:47 PM
no thanks. i didnt think much of osweiler at all coming out of college, he didnt have a notable talent at quarterback other than height that i saw. if he were 6'4", he might not have been taken until the 6th in my world. and does peyton have backups that have gone on to do great things? i can only think of jim sorgi and curtis painter - neither of which got some kind of magic by playing with peyton.

Lucky
03-05-2014, 12:08 AM
I'd rather inquire about Mike Glennon if he's not Lovies man

Not crazy about that, either. Glennon was OK, but was sacked a lot. His mobility was a concern going into the draft last year, and that bore out. The escapability factor is one reason I like the top QBs in this draft.

infantrycak
03-05-2014, 12:25 AM
Not crazy about that, either. Glennon was OK, but was sacked a lot. His mobility was a concern going into the draft last year, and that bore out. The escapability factor is one reason I like the top QBs in this draft.

Putting the top 3 of the draft aside - next favorite options? Garafalo, Mallett, etc.

I didn't like what I saw of Glennon last season. Looked like a placeholder IMO.

htownfan32
03-05-2014, 12:38 AM
I'd rather inquire about Mike Glennon if he's not Lovies man


Your man... Pots and pans

Another #8 quarterback?

:strangle:

beerlover
03-05-2014, 01:10 AM
Another #8 quarterback?

:strangle:

Texans should retire #8 Jersey in the Hall of Shame :kubepalm:

Lucky
03-05-2014, 01:34 AM
Putting the top 3 of the draft aside - next favorite options? Garafalo, Mallett, etc.

I guess we're talking about using the 2nd round pick on a QB, either in trade or an actual rookie. Mallet has the talent. He has an elite arm and isn't a total statue. Being on the Pats for 3 years (one under O'Brien) is a plus. But, Mallet carried a lot of red flags into the 2011 draft. He should have been a 1st round pick, and fell to the 3rd round. Does O'Brien know enough about Mallet to give him a good reference? Mallet scares me.

Kirk Cousins is probably available. He has mobility and an OK arm. Is he a "franchise QB"? No, more like a game manager. But, he might be the best trade option available. Which doesn't say much.

Based on talent alone, I would trade up from 2-1 to take Derek Carr. He has the arm, he has the mobility. I would do that if I were drafting for any team not named the Houston Texans. I think he would be a PR disaster here. He would be booed from the 1st snap.

Garoppolo looks talented, but how far behind is he from the other prospects in terms of development. Seems like a big gamble. In the later rounds, I like San Jose's David Fales. Strictly an intangibles/gut feeling thing. His measurables and arm strength are pedestrian.

I would rather take Bridgewater, Manziel, or Bortles. I just feel better about these guys than the other options. Yes, you miss out on Clowney, and that sucks. But without a QB, your franchise is in drift mode. This team needs direction, and they need a QB to rally behind.

b0ng
03-05-2014, 01:36 AM
Putting the top 3 of the draft aside - next favorite options? Garafalo, Mallett, etc.

I didn't like what I saw of Glennon last season. Looked like a placeholder IMO.

Eh, I didn't like Glennon coming out but I thought he played decently as a rookie put into the fire because his HC was/is an egomaniac. He wasn't breath-taking or anything like that, but I thought he was good enough to warrant being the starter in 2014 for the Bucs baring a a lot better of a QB falling into their laps.

With Cutler being the notable exception, he'll be better than any other QB Lovie Smith has had.

infantrycak
03-05-2014, 01:47 AM
I guess we're talking about using the 2nd round pick on a QB, either in trade or an actual rookie....

Top to bottom (other than not having seen Fales enough to judge) just about nailed my thoughts. ... I would add in a Manziel scares me.

Lucky
03-05-2014, 02:04 AM
I would add in a Manziel scares me.
I understand that. He doesn't fit into any mold that has been successful in the NFL. Yet. Manziel just mesmerizes me. I guess in a way that Vince Young did to many back in 2006 (not me, though). Someone said recently that Manziel will get someone fired. Either for drafting him or passing on him.

Fred
03-05-2014, 02:42 AM
Liked Osweiler coming out of college more than most people. And sitting behind Peyton is not a bad spot to be in. Hopefully he's soaking it up.

I like him a lot more than Mallett.

I've never bought into the "he's bound to learn, sitting behind the superstar" theory. But maybe you are right and he will turn out to be awesome like Jim Sorgi and Curtis Painter.

ChampionTexan
03-05-2014, 02:51 AM
I've never bought into the "he's bound to learn, sitting behind the superstar" theory. But maybe you are right and he will turn out to be awesome like Jim Sorgi and Curtis Painter.

Not to put words in anyone's mouth, but I don't believe "not a bad situation" and "bound to learn" mean quite the same thing. Besides, you're comparing a 2nd round pick to a couple of 6th round picks. It would be just as easy (and just as unfair) to compare him to Aaron Rodgers.

ObsiWan
03-05-2014, 04:20 AM
Another #8 quarterback?

:strangle:
Now, now... don't let that #8 discourage you

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MasterCush
03-05-2014, 05:43 AM
Manziel is going to get creamed. I like Bridgewater but don't think he's worth passing on the freak of nature that is Clowney. I'd love the Texans to pull a rabbit out of a hat and grab Osweiler that way we can get Clowney. Keep Keenum at #2 and get another #3.

Here's O'Brien drooling at Clowney at the combine:

http://s11.postimg.org/me713xt3n/obrien_2.png

That's the face of a man who has pick of the litter and likes what he sees.

Marshall
03-05-2014, 06:26 AM
Denver would want a 1st :pop:

He was a reach at second. He's not replacing Payton any time soon (just passed his neck exam) and he's about to get expensive. I see no reason to anticipate a first round pick in exchange. I suspect he would cost no more than our 3-1 in a deep draft.

Marshall
03-05-2014, 06:34 AM
Top to bottom (other than not having seen Fales enough to judge) just about nailed my thoughts. ... I would add in a Manziel scares me.

Forget logic. Do you really want a QB named Fails (eh! Fales).

PapaL
03-05-2014, 06:51 AM
Putting the top 3 of the draft aside - next favorite options? Garafalo, Mallett, etc.

I didn't like what I saw of Glennon last season. Looked like a placeholder IMO.

Is Garafalo really Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois QB, or am I missing someone? Wouldn't be the first time.

Best part about Garoppolo, when/if he plays bad we can say he's playing like Crapola. Just saying...saves us some time.

Scooter
03-05-2014, 06:52 AM
I understand that. He doesn't fit into any mold that has been successful in the NFL. Yet. Manziel just mesmerizes me. I guess in a way that Vince Young did to many back in 2006 (not me, though). Someone said recently that Manziel will get someone fired. Either for drafting him or passing on him.

i've said it often that manziel is vince young. a super exciting college player that is 90% athlete and 10% quarterback, with not much between the ears. both have huge maturity and entitlement issues that did (and will) get exposed when everyone on the field runs a 4.6 and works 8 days a week on their job. is manziel that much more elusive than keenum that a spin move running away from the line wont end up in a 15 yard sack against the pros? IMO the blueprint is already available. so is carr's, which we're also familiar with. family first and second, and somewhere around 5th comes football. i'll tack on clowney "i'll save myself for the paycheck" to this rant on players without the mental/emotional requirements.

i'm going to go a bit left field compared to most, but i want a quarterback with something to prove and the grey matter to make it possible. give me keenum, mccarron, logan thomas, and even matt schaub as a backup if we can afford to keep him. wildly varying skill sets and development needed, but an absolute excess of putting in the work and fighting to be the best.

edit: to stay on topic, i dont see osweiler in either category. i just dont see enough talent from him to have the discussion.

infantrycak
03-05-2014, 08:50 AM
Is Garafalo really Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois QB, or am I missing someone?

Cut me some slack. Cranial flatulence late at night. :rake:

brg88tx
03-05-2014, 09:29 AM
I'd be good with giving our #33 for osweiler.....much better than anyone we could draft in the second round this year imo.

_King_
03-05-2014, 09:55 AM
If we are going to trade for a QB I'd trade for Mallet.

Osweiler would be second choice.

Other than those two, no thanks.

Would not touch Manziel, would rather have Carr. Would be ok with, not in love with picking bortles, but again, would rather have Carr.

#1 choice for me is Bridgewater. #2 choice is trade for Mallet. #3 is trade up/or trade down and pick Carr.

Trading for Osweiler is somewhere down in the unknown for me like Garapolo or Savage or one of those projected 2nd-4th or beyond guys.

infantrycak
03-05-2014, 10:03 AM
Would not touch Manziel, would rather have Carr. Would be ok with, not in love with picking bortles, but again, would rather have Carr.

#1 choice for me is Bridgewater. #2 choice is trade for Mallet. #3 is trade up/or trade down and pick Carr.

I think Lucky is correct, while Carr should be in consideration he essentially can't be. Neither he nor Schaub will ever receive anything close to a fair day in Houston. I mean I guess if either one started next year and the team went 19-0 they might get a fair shake after that, but anything else and boos and ice will fly.

From what I have seen I like Mallett more than Osweiller as well.

otisbean
03-05-2014, 10:08 AM
I think Lucky is correct, while Carr should be in consideration he essentially can't be. Neither he nor Schaub will ever receive anything close to a fair day in Houston. I mean I guess if either one started next year and the team went 19-0 they might get a fair shake after that, but anything else and boos and ice will fly.

From what I have seen I like Mallett more than Osweiller as well.

I agree with your thoughts on Carr, and I think it's unfortunate that most fans think this way. Just because player A failed it doesn't mean player B will fail as well, regardless if they share the same last name.

steelbtexan
03-05-2014, 10:27 AM
I agree with your thoughts on Carr, and I think it's unfortunate that most fans think this way. Just because player A failed it doesn't mean player B will fail as well, regardless if they share the same last name.

Don't want another Carr, If I never hear Roger Carr's name again life will be better. It's not about sharing the same last name. It's about having the same value systems. Which may make for a great person, but not a professional QB.

If you want to compete with the Mannings/Bady/Rodgers/Bress of the world unfortunately football has to come 1st. Which is why although I don't like any of the top 3 QB's they all appear to have the type work ethic to succeed on various levels.

CloakNNNdagger
03-05-2014, 10:52 AM
I agree with your thoughts on Carr, and I think it's unfortunate that most fans think this way. Just because player A failed it doesn't mean player B will fail as well, regardless if they share the same last name.

The problem here is that with Derrick as was the case with David, the family circus known as his father, is likely to resurface and play a role in every facet of Carr's life both personal and professional.

thunderkyss
03-05-2014, 10:55 AM
I agree with your thoughts on Carr, and I think it's unfortunate that most fans think this way. Just because player A failed it doesn't mean player B will fail as well, regardless if they share the same last name.

He's too raw if you ask me. Had he got out of his brother's shadow, just a little bit...... went to Cal, USC, Washington.... or even SEC & put up good numbers, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But so far, everything looks like he's just like his brother.

I don't have anything against David Carr, his failure in Houston was more on the people who brought him here, than not. But his "failure" everywhere else... talented SOB, could have & should have been a lot more.

If we get Greg Robinson in the first, I wouldn't have an issue with grabbing Derek Carr in the second, or trading up to get him late in the first.

Whoever we take, we've got to a lot more than we have in the past to help him be successful.

thunderkyss
03-05-2014, 10:58 AM
The problem here is that with Derrick as was the case with David, the family circus known as his father, is likely to resurface and play a role in every facet of Carr's life both personal and professional.

That's up to OB & McNair.

bah007
03-05-2014, 01:49 PM
Liked Osweiler coming out of college more than most people. And sitting behind Peyton is not a bad spot to be in. Hopefully he's soaking it up.

I like him a lot more than Mallett.

I've never bought into the "he's bound to learn, sitting behind the superstar" theory. But maybe you are right and he will turn out to be awesome like Jim Sorgi and Curtis Painter.

Not sure reading comprehension is your strong suit...

Never said he was bound to learn anything or that he would be awesome because of it. Only said that I liked him coming out of college and that if you have to sit behind someone, it might not hurt that it's Peyton Manning.

CloakNNNdagger
03-05-2014, 02:38 PM
That's up to OB & McNair.

No doubt. Just saying that this will be one of the things OB and McNair will be factoring in when making their decision.

IDEXAN
03-05-2014, 02:47 PM
Manziel is going to get creamed. I like Bridgewater but don't think he's worth passing on the freak of nature that is Clowney. I'd love the Texans to pull a rabbit out of a hat and grab Osweiler that way we can get Clowney. Keep Keenum at #2 and get another #3.

Here's O'Brien drooling at Clowney at the combine:

http://s11.postimg.org/me713xt3n/obrien_2.png

That's the face of a man who has pick of the litter and likes what he sees.
Right, but who's that sitting next to him ? I watched a lot of the Combine on the NFL Network, and these guys were seen on the tube sitting together on several occasions. The mystery man clearly has the Texans' HCs ear.

DX-TEX
03-05-2014, 02:56 PM
Right, but who's that sitting next to him ? I watched a lot of the Combine on the NFL Network, and these guys were seen on the tube sitting together on several occasions. The mystery man clearly has the Texans' HCs ear.

A clean shaven Vrabel?

http://prod.static.texans.clubs.nfl.com//assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/CoachesCards/MikeVrabel.jpg

Would make sense.

_King_
03-05-2014, 03:14 PM
Trade for a guy like Osweiler or Mallet and then pick up a guy like Savage late in the draft or as an UDFA.

Some young, cheap guys at QB, with one having some back up experience behind either Manning or Brady. Pick another young guy in the draft that you see some good qualities in and let him compete for the back-up spot with Keenum, Yates and or a vet FA.

So a hypothetical QB stable going into pre-season would look like:

Mallet/Osweiler
Keenum
Yates and or Cassel
Savage

Either draft Clowney #1 overall or trade down for a King's Ransom.


I think it's possible OB may want that super talented player for his defense. Have him and JJ and give offenses something to really worry about...If Clowney lives up to the hype, potentially having one of the most dominant defensive fronts ever assembled.

If OB does not see that kind of talent at the QB position and he feels there's a shot he could get the kind of (or better) production from a guy like Mallet/Osweiler as a guy in this draft then I could absolutely see him leaning that way.

HOU-TEX
03-05-2014, 03:22 PM
Right, but who's that sitting next to him ? I watched a lot of the Combine on the NFL Network, and these guys were seen on the tube sitting together on several occasions. The mystery man clearly has the Texans' HCs ear.

DB coach John Butler

CloakNNNdagger
03-05-2014, 06:44 PM
DB coach John Butler

Doesn't appear to be Butler........his ears are too low.http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/9a/a1/9aa1e3e8fbd77e23a694ee48081b9a9c.jpg?itok=ujLiK9kU

steelbtexan
03-05-2014, 07:09 PM
Probably Godsey,

I've never seen a picture of Godsey though.

PapaL
03-05-2014, 07:33 PM
Probably Godsey,

I've never seen a picture of Godsey though.

That was my guess tooo but nope.

Godsey:

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Godsey_George-Patriots-head-12.jpg

irishtexanfan
03-05-2014, 07:36 PM
I think its Patriots director of pro personnel Nick Caserio with BOB

Playoffs
03-05-2014, 07:57 PM
I think its Patriots director of pro personnel Nick Caserio with BOB

Bingo.

Discussing a Schaub for Brady trade, Sonic Sam thrown in as a sweetener. :kitten:

CloakNNNdagger
03-05-2014, 08:23 PM
I think its Patriots director of pro personnel Nick Caserio with BOB

That's exactly who he is. Same hairline, same thin upper lip, same ear level, small ears, same point at the top of ear helix, same brow configuration, same cheek and jawline structure.

http://prod.static.patriots.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/2012/500x305_thumbnails/500x305-caserio-20120728.jpg

Texan_Bill
03-05-2014, 08:27 PM
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2013/0729/20130729__brock-osweiler-denver-broncos~p1.jpg

OT, but look at where Peyton holds the ball. To me, that's where it's supposed to be. For every "bit" lower, I take a point away in my grading system.

I never played QB but whenever I throw a ball with the neighborhood kids and simulate a 3, 5 or 7 step drop back, I have the ball up around my shoulder level.. I think they call that "fundamental"

irishtexanfan
03-05-2014, 08:42 PM
Bingo.

Discussing a Schaub for Brady trade, Sonic Sam thrown in as a sweetener. :kitten:

Hardly a fair trade. They should throw in Gronk too just to even it up

Playoffs
03-05-2014, 08:48 PM
That's exactly who he is. Same hairline, same thin upper lip, same ear level, small ears, same point at the top of ear helix, same brow configuration, same cheek and jawline structure.

http://prod.static.patriots.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/2012/500x305_thumbnails/500x305-caserio-20120728.jpg

Might be son of Spock... look at them pointy helixes. :specnatz:

thunderkyss
03-05-2014, 08:57 PM
I never played QB but whenever I throw a ball with the neighborhood kids and simulate a 3, 5 or 7 step drop back, I have the ball up around my shoulder level.. I think they call that "fundamental"

Don't count.


You throw like a girl.

ObsiWan
03-05-2014, 09:05 PM
Don't count.


You throw like a girl.

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/square_thumb_medium/hash/27/13/271329c0d59dc1fa3091ecfdd894e52e.jpg?itok=4KQj3QiW


What's yer point?
:D


I suppose she's not holding the ball properly either...

The Pencil Neck
03-06-2014, 02:02 AM
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/square_thumb_medium/hash/27/13/271329c0d59dc1fa3091ecfdd894e52e.jpg?itok=4KQj3QiW


What's yer point?
:D


I suppose she's not holding the ball properly either...


Ball?

steelbtexan
03-06-2014, 10:48 PM
I think its Patriots director of pro personnel Nick Caserio with BOB

Dis cussing a 2nd and a 2015 4th for Mallett. I wouldn't give more than a 2015 3rd for Mallett and maybe a conditional 2015 pick depending on how Mallett plays.

Nitrofish
03-07-2014, 02:44 AM
Cut me some slack. Cranial flatulence late at night. :rake:

We understand Cak... Late night fantasies about Janeane Garofalo while posting on TT can do that to ya. It's just Parapraxis bro. :kitten:

http://media.salon.com/2000/01/will_success_spoil_janeane_garofalo.jpg