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badboy
01-23-2014, 01:51 PM
Am I overlooking something? ILB C J Mosley is the only one ranked in first and all positions have a decent alternative at lower pick in that round. Even Nix has Hageman as a possible nose.

Does that increase Mosely value to Texans and move him higher on their board? Of course I am considering him in a trade down scenario.

TexansFTW
01-23-2014, 01:53 PM
Possibly.

I don't think it's a stretch to say that Brooks Reed will be our starting ILB next year alongside Cushing though.

If that's the case we would obviously want to use that pick on a good enough OLB to run with the job and then a late round ILB to use as depth (which we have none of).

All speculation though, who knows.

mussop
01-23-2014, 02:15 PM
Possibly.

I don't think it's a stretch to say that Brooks Reed will be our starting ILB next year alongside Cushing though.

If that's the case we would obviously want to use that pick on a good enough OLB to run with the job and then a late round ILB to use as depth (which we have none of).

All speculation though, who knows.

I'm really looking forward to seeing what Crennel can do with Mercilous. Also hope he can make something out of Braman other than a special teams player.

TexansFTW
01-23-2014, 02:56 PM
I'm really looking forward to seeing what Crennel can do with Mercilous. Also hope he can make something out of Braman other than a special teams player.

I'm there w/ you on Merciless.

You think Braman has a future in the NFL though? I respect that if you do. I personally think he should be thankful a team is using a roster spot on him.

Marshall
01-23-2014, 02:57 PM
I'm there w/ you on Merciless.

You think Braman has a future in the NFL though? I respect that if you do. I personally think he should be thankful a team is using a roster spot on him.

I'm not sure how long he holds that roster spot with the new management. He was borderline all along.

Corrosion
01-23-2014, 03:12 PM
Am I overlooking something? ILB C J Mosley is the only one ranked in first and all positions have a decent alternative at lower pick in that round. Even Nix has Hageman as a possible nose.

Does that increase Mosely value to Texans and move him higher on their board? Of course I am considering him in a trade down scenario.

I think Mosley is the best "Football player" in this draft. I've said it multiple times in multiple threads.

Thing is , he's really an ILB .... and that's a position that doesn't get much consideration with the #1 pick. That spot is generally for pass rushers , QB's , Left Tackles and the occasional WR/CB.

I wouldn't complain one bit if the Texans took him 1:1 or traded back a few picks (4?) and took him there.

Scooter
01-23-2014, 04:03 PM
i have no problem taking him first, or more ideally trading down and grabbing him. mosley is another that you figure to be a starter for 10 years with out the questionmarks of some of the other picks, and to me that's a must with your first pick. forget the boom or bust, and forget criticism that may come with a "reach", pick a guy who will be a core player for a long time.

the big selling point IMO is that he's an ILB that can play in coverage, and that aspect can change an entire defense. as we're seeing around the league and especially in the playoffs, linebackers have as much cover responsibility as defensive backs. the tightend position is huge, and crossing routes have become the bread and butter for most of the NFL. you have to have at least 1 guy in the middle, and teams like the 49'ers, seahawks, and steelers are taking it to the next level with 2. mosley with cushing would be a turning point for our defense.

badboy
01-23-2014, 04:13 PM
Possibly.

I don't think it's a stretch to say that Brooks Reed will be our starting ILB next year alongside Cushing though.

If that's the case we would obviously want to use that pick on a good enough OLB to run with the job and then a late round ILB to use as depth (which we have none of).

All speculation though, who knows.There has been no indication of a desire by Texans to move Reed. I would have thought if they wanted to Phillips would have.

TexansFTW
01-23-2014, 04:20 PM
There has been no indication of a desire by Texans to move Reed. I would have thought if they wanted to Phillips would have.

IIRC he was being cross trained in camp and throughout the season, just never played the position in a game though.

You may be right though, like I said, all speculation.

badboy
01-23-2014, 04:23 PM
i have no problem taking him first, or more ideally trading down and grabbing him. mosley is another that you figure to be a starter for 10 years with out the questionmarks of some of the other picks, and to me that's a must with your first pick. forget the boom or bust, and forget criticism that may come with a "reach", pick a guy who will be a core player for a long time.

the big selling point IMO is that he's an ILB that can play in coverage, and that aspect can change an entire defense. as we're seeing around the league and especially in the playoffs, linebackers have as much cover responsibility as defensive backs. the tightend position is huge, and crossing routes have become the bread and butter for most of the NFL. you have to have at least 1 guy in the middle, and teams like the 49'ers, seahawks, and steelers are taking it to the next level with 2. mosley with cushing would be a turning point for our defense.my thought exactly as I would prefer to trade down and get him but he is a perfect fit for a priority need imo + has intelligence I think required. He was actually listed as OLB for long time by NFL draftscout.com

JB
01-23-2014, 05:07 PM
If we could pull off a trade with cleveland for 4 & 26 and could pick up Mosley and Nix in the first, I would do backflips. Middle of our defense set for years

badboy
01-23-2014, 05:18 PM
If we could pull off a trade with cleveland for 4 & 26 and could pick up Mosley and Nix in the first, I would do backflips. Middle of our defense set for years

Nix surgery for knee issues at his weight concerns me and cannot get any feedback on how he is post surgery but probably too soon. I like Carrethers and Cauran Reid (sp) in later rounds. I am focusing on the Oline more than D. If I could land either Cyril Richardson or Gabe Jackson for my LG and JuWuan James for RT that would make any RB and QB better. I think Cyril could play RT so he has edge over Jackson but he may go before #33.

Marshall
01-23-2014, 05:23 PM
Nix surgery for knee issues at his weight concerns me and cannot get any feedback on how he is post surgery but probably too soon. I like Carrethers and Cauran Reid (sp) in later rounds. I am focusing on the Oline more than D. If I could land either Cyril Richardson or Gabe Jackson for my LG and JuWuan James for RT that would make any RB and QB better. I think Cyril could play RT so he has edge over Jackson but he may go before #33.

Cyril got pushed around I thought. Was it the senior bowl or east-west?

JB
01-23-2014, 05:25 PM
Nix surgery for knee issues at his weight concerns me and cannot get any feedback on how he is post surgery but probably too soon. I like Carrethers and Cauran Reid (sp) in later rounds. I am focusing on the Oline more than D. If I could land either Cyril Richardson or Gabe Jackson for my LG and JuWuan James for RT that would make any RB and QB better. I think Cyril could play RT so he has edge over Jackson but he may go before #33.

Haven't been paying that much attention, wasn't aware of knee concerns with Nix. I'll have to re-evaluate then. I think our D up the middle and speed on the back end are our biggest needs outside of qb. If we don't go qb in the first then I want to address those two areas

kiwitexansfan
01-23-2014, 05:50 PM
I'd be peeved if we take a ILB in the first when we will be in nickel or dime 70% of the time and already have Cushing who needs to play in those formations.

drs23
01-23-2014, 05:52 PM
Nix surgery for knee issues at his weight concerns me and cannot get any feedback on how he is post surgery but probably too soon. I like Carrethers and Cauran Reid (sp) in later rounds. I am focusing on the Oline more than D. If I could land either Cyril Richardson or Gabe Jackson for my LG and JuWuan James for RT that would make any RB and QB better. I think Cyril could play RT so he has edge over Jackson but he may go before #33.

Yeah, the jury is still out on Nix's injury(ies) but what have you seen from Carrethers that would counter the claims from the "Professional" draftnics that "he's just a 'big body on the field'"?

Just axin because that's all I'm hearing/reading about him.

Scooter
01-23-2014, 06:08 PM
I'd be peeved if we take a ILB in the first when we will be in nickel or dime 70% of the time and already have Cushing who needs to play in those formations.

IMO that adds value to taking an ILB early. instead of so much time in base formations where you can have interchangeable heavies at ILB, you need 2 guys who can stay on the field in passing downs. willis and bowman are the target goal as the best ILB's in the league right now. bowman was in for 98% of the snaps this season and willis was in for 81%. i'd take someone in for 81% of the plays on defense first, though with cushing getting older and having injury issues, he may be the 81% with mosley being the 98%.

bah007
01-23-2014, 08:07 PM
I'd be peeved if we take a ILB in the first when we will be in nickel or dime 70% of the time and already have Cushing who needs to play in those formations.

I agree with your sentiment but with our LB core Moseley would probably stay on the field in our nickel.

Corrosion
01-23-2014, 08:11 PM
I'd be peeved if we take a ILB in the first when we will be in nickel or dime 70% of the time and already have Cushing who needs to play in those formations.

Mosley would likely stay on the field as an OLB in those situations , he's a very good pass rusher .... that would send either Reed or Mercilus to the sidelines.


If he's the best player in the draft , he's the best player .... you take the best player with 1:1.

Scooter
01-23-2014, 08:28 PM
If he's the best player in the draft , he's the best player .... you take the best player with 1:1.

a thousand times yes.

WolverineFan
01-23-2014, 09:34 PM
Mosley would definitely be on the field in Nickel and Dime situations. He's the best coverage ILB I've seen in quite a few years. Also, Cushing's leg injuries have sapped him of some mobility. Might not be a bad idea to get a more athletic ILB in there to play the Bowman role and let Cushing be your downhill enforcer like Patrick Willis.

mussop
01-23-2014, 10:19 PM
I'm there w/ you on Merciless.

You think Braman has a future in the NFL though? I respect that if you do. I personally think he should be thankful a team is using a roster spot on him.

I don't know if he has a future or not. I just don't have any faith in any of the old coaches to develop talent. He has the measurables. I'm looking forward to seeing what our rookie has too. Just glad we have new coaches and hope they can do something with these guys.

JB
01-23-2014, 11:05 PM
If we were to go Mosley first, and the draft fell like this, I wouldn't be unhappy

1 ILB C.J. MOSLEY ALABAMA-as Corrosion has mentioned, best football player
33 S HA’SEAN CLINTON-DIX ALABAMA-always wanted a top safety
65 QB ZACH METTENBERGER LSU- boom or bust
97 DT KELCY QUARLES SOUTH CAROLINA-keeping with up the middle theme
129 RB CHARLES SIMS WVU-Houston boy comes back home-we need help here
161 WR MIKE DAVIS TEXAS-finally a burner
193 CB ROSS COCKRELL DUKE-this little dud is gritty

Courtesy of mock draft simulator (there's a thread)


Tried to go with best player and keeping in mind team needs. I think our OL is going to be fine with players getting healthy, new coaching and maybe FA

TexansFTW
01-24-2014, 07:36 AM
If we were to go Mosley first, and the draft fell like this, I wouldn't be unhappy

1 ILB C.J. MOSLEY ALABAMA-as Corrosion has mentioned, best football player
33 S HA’SEAN CLINTON-DIX ALABAMA-always wanted a top safety
65 QB ZACH METTENBERGER LSU- boom or bust
97 DT KELCY QUARLES SOUTH CAROLINA-keeping with up the middle theme
129 RB CHARLES SIMS WVU-Houston boy comes back home-we need help here
161 WR MIKE DAVIS TEXAS-finally a burner
193 CB ROSS COCKRELL DUKE-this little dud is gritty

Courtesy of mock draft simulator (there's a thread)


Tried to go with best player and keeping in mind team needs. I think our OL is going to be fine with players getting healthy, new coaching and maybe FA

Let me guess? SEC Bias?

JB
01-24-2014, 09:15 AM
Let me guess? SEC Bias?

Not at all. I don't even like the SEC. I was just going with the best players and filling my perceived needs of the team.

Corrosion
01-24-2014, 09:29 AM
If we were to go Mosley first, and the draft fell like this, I wouldn't be unhappy

1 ILB C.J. MOSLEY ALABAMA-as Corrosion has mentioned, best football player
33 S HA’SEAN CLINTON-DIX ALABAMA-always wanted a top safety
65 QB ZACH METTENBERGER LSU- boom or bust
97 DT KELCY QUARLES SOUTH CAROLINA-keeping with up the middle theme
129 RB CHARLES SIMS WVU-Houston boy comes back home-we need help here
161 WR MIKE DAVIS TEXAS-finally a burner
193 CB ROSS COCKRELL DUKE-this little dud is gritty

Courtesy of mock draft simulator (there's a thread)


Tried to go with best player and keeping in mind team needs. I think our OL is going to be fine with players getting healthy, new coaching and maybe FA

I doubt Nix is there @ 33. Might not be there if you had Cleveland's #26. I think he comes off the board between 15 & 25.
Also don't see the need for another early round safety when we took Swearinger early last season pending Manning returns which I believe he will as you aren't going to replace him with a comparable player with the difference between his dead money and cap savings. He's right around market value for the position.

I also don't believe the OL can be neglected , especially RT and to some extent LG as Wade Smith really fell off last year. Smith only has a $750k cap hit if cut. Newton is just over $15k in dead money should they send his ass packing. (Not saying either gets cut but its entirely possible).
The Texans talked to "just about every OL at the SR Bowl". That seems like a clue to me that they want to improve in the trenches. Where in the draft is anyone's guess but if they are talking to guy's expected to go in the early part of round 1 ... you almost have to pencil in an OL in the first 2-3 picks.

Kelcy Quarles is likely a late second to 3rd rounder.

In keeping with the spirit of your draft above , I'd so something like the following:

1 - Mosley
2 - Antonio Richardson (Tenn. OT)
3 - Mettenberger
4 - Lache Seastrunk (Baylor RB)
5 - Ryan Carrethers (Arkansas St. DT)
6 -
7 -

JB
01-24-2014, 09:36 AM
The Texans talked to "just about every OL at the SR Bowl".

I hadn't heard this.

beerlover
01-24-2014, 09:43 AM
I hadn't heard this.

back to drawing board JB :whip:

JB
01-24-2014, 09:53 AM
back to drawing board JB :whip:

yeah, I was thinking we could pick up a FA for OL, along with what we currently have on the roster but will go with the flow. :handshake:

I still think our biggest needs are up the middle on def and overall team speed.

badboy
01-24-2014, 10:36 AM
Yeah, the jury is still out on Nix's injury(ies) but what have you seen from Carrethers that would counter the claims from the "Professional" draftnics that "he's just a 'big body on the field'"?

Just axin because that's all I'm hearing/reading about him.2013: 87 tackles with 8 for loss and 4 sacks. even for that schedule is amazing. 6' 330 and not a tub of lard. Should fit what little of what we know about defense. He has to be even with Mitchell by game one. If that is correct, a starter from 5th round is crazy good.

badboy
01-24-2014, 10:48 AM
Cyril got pushed around I thought. Was it the senior bowl or east-west?he was in 3 point stance more than with Baylor. I think he will be fine. Spent a lot of time last night thinking of how to draft to correct Oline and I think Jawuan James from Tenn is way to go. Avail top of 4th & if he cannot beat out RT candidates Williams and Newton, he should be able to move to RG and allow Brooks to go LG. I like Q but never saw much of him & hesitate to put eggs in his basket without more info.

kingtexan
01-24-2014, 02:01 PM
You think Braman has a future in the NFL though?

I would be surprised if he isn't starting for the Texans next season.

JCTexan
01-24-2014, 02:54 PM
I would be surprised if he isn't starting for the Texans next season.

With Reed & Merciless still on the roster I have to ask: are you serious?

kingtexan
01-25-2014, 08:13 AM
With Reed & Merciless still on the roster I have to ask: are you serious?

Absolutely. He has better effort than either of them, and with the new LB coach I could see him reaching his potential this year and getting his shot.

badboy
01-25-2014, 06:02 PM
he was in 3 point stance more than with Baylor. I think he will be fine. Spent a lot of time last night thinking of how to draft to correct Oline and I think Jawuan James from Tenn is way to go. Avail top of 4th & if he cannot beat out RT candidates Williams and Newton, he should be able to move to RG and allow Brooks to go LG. I like Q but never saw much of him & hesitate to put eggs in his basket without more info.may have to rethink Cyril as he got beat by speed in tonight's Senior Bowl. Still think Jawuan James is RT for us. If we have extra picks, probably look at Gabe Jackson for LG.

Corrosion
01-25-2014, 06:54 PM
may have to rethink Cyril as he got beat by speed in tonight's Senior Bowl. Still think Jawuan James is RT for us. If we have extra picks, probably look at Gabe Jackson for LG.

I'd be satisfied with either of the Tennessee OT's Antonio Richardson or James ... Wonder if Richardson falls to 3:1 , would be a steal there as most have him as a 2nd rounder. James would have exceptional value at 4:1.

Would be nice to find a trade down scenario where you could land a QB in the top 10 along with Richardson & Trent Murphy.

bah007
01-26-2014, 01:53 PM
Unfortunately, I think Antonio Richardson goes in the top 25 and James will go in the late 2nd (I have him as my #64 prospect right now). They are both severely underrated right now. I take Richardson at #33 no question if he is still there somehow. Franchise LT potential. James will be a very solid RT. If he's there at 3.1 I take him (unless the position has already been addressed by then).

Not really a fan of Cyril. Has potential but I hope he goes elsewhere.

kiwitexansfan
01-26-2014, 02:48 PM
I'd be satisfied with either of the Tennessee OT's Antonio Richardson or James ... Wonder if Richardson falls to 3:1 , would be a steal there as most have him as a 2nd rounder. James would have exceptional value at 4:1.

Would be nice to find a trade down scenario where you could land a QB in the top 10 along with Richardson & Trent Murphy.

Trent Murphy from Stanford? There is talk emerging of him plummeting down boards after the senior bowl. Or am I getting draft overload?

WolverineFan
01-26-2014, 04:13 PM
Not really a fan of Cyril. Has potential but I hope he goes elsewhere.

Really struggled against speed at Senior Bowl. Jackson wasn't as powerful as most thought he would be, but was solid.

WolverineFan
01-26-2014, 04:15 PM
Trent Murphy from Stanford? There is talk emerging of him plummeting down boards after the senior bowl. Or am I getting draft overload?

If he puts up good numbers at the combine then he will be fine. He struggled at the Senior Bowl playing DE. Should probably just stay as a stand-up 3-4 OLB.

deucetx
01-27-2014, 08:09 AM
A nice write up on Mosley:

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/steelers-nfl-draft-prospects-scouting-video-2014/2014/1/10/5282310/2014-nfl-draft-prospects-cj-mosley-alabama

C.J. Mosley stands at 6-foot-2 and 232 pounds. There isn't a linebacker in the college football who has displayed the type of high football IQ and instincts Mosley has on the field. He displays a great of ability to read the QBs eyes in pass coverage and hit his keys. He has a great ability to recognize route and understands down and distance situations incredibly well. In the run game Mosley uses his football IQ to diagnose the plays quickly and keep himself clean from blockers. He is incredibly disciplined in his reads and this could only be the result of excellent preparation and film study throughout the week.

He is definitely one I would be interested in if we traded down and others we considered were off the board. He's even good in coverage which would make it possible where he would be on the field more unlike all our other inside linebackers not named Brian Cushing. Gives us more diversity and he or Cush could slide outside when/if we use a 4-3 in this new hybrid approach. Depends on who stays and goes in the coming months (obviously).

Plus it would be nice to have insurance in case (knock on wood) Cushing did go down since when he does this team has looked inept on defense time and time again.

badboy
01-27-2014, 10:07 AM
Unfortunately, I think Antonio Richardson goes in the top 25 and James will go in the late 2nd (I have him as my #64 prospect right now). They are both severely underrated right now. I take Richardson at #33 no question if he is still there somehow. Franchise LT potential. James will be a very solid RT. If he's there at 3.1 I take him (unless the position has already been addressed by then).

Not really a fan of Cyril. Has potential but I hope he goes elsewhere.

Do you think A. Richardson could play RT for now eliminating need for James? I'm not sure & we cannot afford to stockpile players this year. I think James is solid & if Q is as good as I think, that wraps up the OL. Brennan Williams & a healthy Newton can spar over back up roles. I think Derek will be allowed at his rate of pay to at least get thru TC.

badboy
01-27-2014, 10:11 AM
What are the thoughts on Trevardo Williams? Many liked him when drafted and he is a speedster.

Playoffs
01-27-2014, 10:58 AM
What are the thoughts on Trevardo Williams? Many liked him when drafted and he is a speedster.

Be interesting to see if Vrabel can get something out of him.

bah007
01-27-2014, 12:06 PM
What are the thoughts on Trevardo Williams? Many liked him when drafted and he is a speedster.

Has a future as a situational pass rusher. I don't think he has the ability to be a full time player, he's not agile enough to play in coverage and he's not strong enough to play against the run. One trick pony. But that one trick is a pretty important one.

bah007
01-27-2014, 12:11 PM
Do you think A. Richardson could play RT for now eliminating need for James? I'm not sure & we cannot afford to stockpile players this year. I think James is solid & if Q is as good as I think, that wraps up the OL. Brennan Williams & a healthy Newton can spar over back up roles. I think Derek will be allowed at his rate of pay to at least get thru TC.

Yes I think he could.

LT - Brown, Williams
LG - Quessenberry, Jones
C - Myers, Jones
RG - Brooks, Jones
RT - Richardson, Newton

That looks like a definite upgrade over last year.

badboy
01-27-2014, 12:18 PM
Has a future as a situational pass rusher. I don't think he has the ability to be a full time player, he's not agile enough to play in coverage and he's not strong enough to play against the run. One trick pony. But that one trick is a pretty important one.I would like to see Tre alternate with Reed.

badboy
01-27-2014, 12:21 PM
Yes I think he could.

LT - Brown, Williams
LG - Quessenberry, Jones
C - Myers, Jones
RG - Brooks, Jones
RT - Richardson, Newton

That looks like a definite upgrade over last year.that is putting a lot of trust in Q a player we saw little of. If he isn't steak and potatoes we remain in same place as last season.

WolverineFan
01-27-2014, 12:25 PM
that is putting a lot of trust in Q a player we saw little of. If he isn't steak and potatoes we remain in same place as last season.

I have a lot of faith in Quess. He was my OL sleeper in the draft last year. Was ecstatic when we landed him. If he is fully recovered from his injury then I expect him to win the starting job easily.

bah007
01-27-2014, 12:30 PM
that is putting a lot of trust in Q a player we saw little of. If he isn't steak and potatoes we remain in same place as last season.

Agreed. I have faith that he can beat out Jones, who I think is a natural C playing out of position at OG.

Quessenberry/Jones may not match Wade Smith's production in year one but moving forward I think it's a better option.

And I think Richardson is better on his first day of practice than Newton is ever capable of being.

badboy
01-27-2014, 12:34 PM
Agreed. I have faith that he can beat out Jones, who I think is a natural C playing out of position at OG.

Quessenberry/Jones may not match Wade Smith's production in year one but moving forward I think it's a better option.

And I think Richardson is better on his first day of practice than Newton is ever capable of being.Thanks for response from you and WF. I also like Q from start but we had better be correct. If Richardson can play RT I could eliminate a 2nd pick from draft as I had Cyril #33 and James in 4th.

:chickendance:

Blake
01-27-2014, 02:39 PM
Also there will be a good handful of free agent guards if we want to plug one in there. No need to spend multiple high picks to solidify the line. Grab your BPA @ 1, then hopefully RT or TE @ 33.

As far as Mosley goes, I cant see a scenario where we trade down in his range. But who knows.

TexansFTW
01-29-2014, 12:06 PM
Yes I think he could.

LT - Brown, Williams
LG - Quessenberry, Jones
C - Myers, Jones
RG - Brooks, Jones
RT - Richardson, Newton

That looks like a definite upgrade over last year.

I think Brennan Williams can definitely be this teams starting RT. I also believe in Q. I also believe Wade Smith signs a team friendly deal as he'll be 33 next year and the Texans are the only team that took a chance on him as an NFL starter besides the Fins who drafted and released him.

He also has a nice house in Houston (Mizzou City) that I doubt he wants to sell to get a 1 or 2 year deal elsewhere. He can provide solid depth and provide the time needed for other guards to rise up and take what we drafted them to do.

badboy
01-29-2014, 12:11 PM
I think Brennan Williams can definitely be this teams starting RT. I also believe in Q. I also believe Wade Smith signs a team friendly deal as he'll be 33 next year and the Texans are the only team that took a chance on him as an NFL starter besides the Fins who drafted and released him.

He also has a nice house in Houston (Mizzou City) that I doubt he wants to sell to get a 1 or 2 year deal elsewhere. He can provide solid depth and provide the time needed for other guards to rise up and take what we drafted them to do.

I really like Williams and mocked him but need to be convinced he will be healthy, if yes then I take RT off my list of concerns. Wade Smith is not and has not been healthy for 2 seasons; he is gone. I think Q will start.

badboy
02-03-2014, 08:50 AM
bumped thread to see if any comments after S.W. and the MVP LB?

Playoffs
02-18-2014, 09:40 AM
Dane Brugler ‏@dpbrugler
Alabama LB C.J. Mosley has been one of the toughest evals this year...only because it's so tough to find holes in his game #NFLDraft

infantrycak
02-18-2014, 09:57 AM
bumped thread to see if any comments after S.W. and the MVP LB?

I am very tempted to say he would benefit the team more than any other non-QB. Was shocked to see a mock yesterday in which he fell to 17.

NCTexan
02-18-2014, 10:02 AM
I am very tempted to say he would benefit the team more than any other non-QB. Was shocked to see a mock yesterday in which he fell to 17.

If he somehow fell that far I think I'd be willing to try and trade up...

aussie_texan
02-18-2014, 06:34 PM
my only concern is that he doesn't shed blocks every well. and in Roc's system the linebackers are the main penetrators of the o-line to get to the QB. Can he do that consistently against top level NFL talent? can he add weight and strength without losing speed? does he fit in our system? These are the questions i would be asking and trying to find answers for

P.s. i would have zero complains if we drafted him in the top 10 and could even make a case for taking him number 1

Playoffs
02-18-2014, 09:08 PM
All Star Football Challenge was on ESPN2 earlier this year...

Only thing of interest to me was CJ Mosley outran Lache Seastrunk in an obstacle course type drill.

Which considering the below adds some "wow" to the above.

Baylor RB Lache Seastrunk: I know I can run faster than 4.3 (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/18/baylor-rb-lache-seastrunk-i-know-i-can-run-faster-than-4-3/)

Corrosion
02-18-2014, 11:29 PM
All Star Football Challenge was on ESPN2 earlier this year...



Which considering the below adds some "wow" to the above.

Baylor RB Lache Seastrunk: I know I can run faster than 4.3 (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/18/baylor-rb-lache-seastrunk-i-know-i-can-run-faster-than-4-3/)

I think Mosley is the best "Football player" in this draft. I've said it multiple times in multiple threads.



:mail:

kiwitexansfan
02-19-2014, 12:02 AM
Because players always give their all in all star skill challenges.:kitten:

Playoffs
02-22-2014, 03:53 PM
Louis Riddick ‏@LRiddickESPN
Can they make it through camp-season-rookie contract....

Health concerns w/Kouandjio/knee are legit. Longevity issue. LB C.J. Mosley longevity concerns very very real as well.

TexansFTW
02-25-2014, 12:46 PM
Which considering the below adds some "wow" to the above.

Baylor RB Lache Seastrunk: I know I can run faster than 4.3 (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/18/baylor-rb-lache-seastrunk-i-know-i-can-run-faster-than-4-3/)

What a surprise, Seastrunk isn't nearly as fast as he thought he was...

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/lache-seastrunk?id=2543559

Playoffs
02-26-2014, 02:32 PM
Wonder why...?

Making the rounds
Of the 335 players invited to the combine, 269 interviewed with the media, plus 27 head coaches and 24 general managers, according to the Pro Football Writers Association. The most conspicuous absence? Undoubtedly Alabama linebacker C.J. Mosley, who was the most high-profile prospect not to speak to the press and probably the only one among the legitimate first-round candidates.