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revan
01-22-2014, 03:07 AM
Looks lke the guy they were waiting for pulled out of the running for HC with the Browns. I know Gase was high on their radar, too bad they cant seem to catch a break.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/cleveland-browns-yet-another-nfl-assistant-coach-turn-164245671--nfl.html

Txn_in_Oki
01-22-2014, 04:46 AM
Looks lke the guy they were waiting for pulled out of the running for HC with the Browns. I know Gase was high on their radar, too bad they cant seem to catch a break.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/cleveland-browns-yet-another-nfl-assistant-coach-turn-164245671--nfl.html

I guess telling a new coach that you have some leash to work with and then firing him after the season isn't looked upon very highly through the league.

They're probably going to have to pull someone from college.

Marshall
01-22-2014, 05:16 AM
I guess telling a new coach that you have some leash to work with and then firing him after the season isn't looked upon very highly through the league.

They're probably going to have to pull someone from college.

The only problem I see is it increases the possibility that Munchak will not be available for OL coach.

Txn_in_Oki
01-22-2014, 05:22 AM
The only problem I see is it increases the possibility that Munchak will not be available for OL coach.

I don't think they are getting anyone from the pros. I highly doubt that Munchak goes from one train wreck right to another. Way too much stink on Cleveland.

Marshall
01-22-2014, 05:26 AM
I don't think they are getting anyone from the pros. I highly doubt that Munchak goes from one train wreck right to another. Way too much stink on Cleveland.

...and then there's their football team...

Marshall
01-22-2014, 05:28 AM
Coach Drew Carrie?

revan
01-22-2014, 05:49 AM
...and then there's their football team...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hij7UkcNI0w/T5AoQdNllAI/AAAAAAAAAtI/3HqGuxL6d4E/s1600/ba-dum-tss-animated.gif

gwallaia
01-22-2014, 06:40 AM
From the linked article above.

"Broncos offensive coordinator Adam Gase called Browns today to say he is withdrawing as HC candidate to concentrate on Super Bowl.
10:16 AM - 21 Jan 2014"

I also notify the Browns late yesterday that I am withdrawing my name as well from consideration.

2012Champs
01-22-2014, 06:46 AM
Had Gary visited yet?

Playoffs
01-22-2014, 11:09 AM
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2288788#post2288788

GuerillaBlack
01-22-2014, 11:19 AM
...and then there's their football team...

Nice defense and some weapons on offense. They just picked bad quarterbacks. Maybe Hoyer actually has something.

Norg
01-22-2014, 12:03 PM
Uhhh Gary Kubes BROWNS !!!! ..?????

the browns just need to stick with a coach for 8 years and see what happens and kubes will be perfect for that LOL how lucky would he be if that happened

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01-22-2014, 06:30 PM
Figured this fit best in this topic...

Tony Pauline ‏@TonyPauline
Bryan Stork/C/Florida State "Cleveland Browns have asked the goofiest questions of all" in interviews...Lombardiosity.

bah007
01-22-2014, 08:51 PM
What a train wreck. I hope they just have to throw one of their front office guys out there to coach because every single person they offer it to turns them down.

revan
01-23-2014, 05:47 AM
Figured this fit best in this topic...

Tony Pauline ‏@TonyPauline
Lombardiosity.

Wow, I really feel bad for that organization now.

Byrds Man
01-23-2014, 06:00 AM
http://www.sportspickle.com/2014/01/browns-hire-adorable-stray-kitten-new-head-coach

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01-23-2014, 11:11 AM
The Lombardi effect! :lol:

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels has withdrawn from consideration for the Cleveland Browns HC job, per a league source.

Another contender added in the "Thanks, But No Thanks" Bowl.

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer
More background: Browns circled back with Josh McDaniels after the Patriots were eliminated from the playoffs. McDaniels stuck to his guns.

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/gallery/2010/NFL/nfldraft/14broncospg-horizontal.jpg
Stop calling me! Seriously. Lose my number... you're bad news.

Tell Lombardi to buy extra "Browns" bags.:bag:

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01-23-2014, 02:49 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Cleveland Browns Thursday named Mike Pettine as the 15th full-time head coach in franchise history, team announced.

http://aoinspiration.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/cheering-gif.gif

Last chance for Kubiak.

revan
01-24-2014, 12:56 AM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter


http://aoinspiration.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/cheering-gif.gif

Last chance for Kubiak.

He has three pro bowlers in Hawaii right now and two first round picks, not bad just the ownership that has too many question marks.

thunderkyss
01-24-2014, 07:28 AM
Uhhh Gary Kubes BROWNS !!!! ..?????

the browns just need to stick with a coach for 8 years and see what happens and kubes will be perfect for that LOL how lucky would he be if that happened

I don't think it necessarily needs to be Kubiak but I definitely think they should commit to someone for the long haul. Get on track & stay on track.

I think Gary did a good job here, we're not the Browns or Bills (1st overall pick notwithstanding). OB is in a much better position to succeed than the coaches of some of these other teams.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

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01-28-2014, 01:16 PM
Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport
Kyle Shanahan has interview scheduled Wednesday for Browns OC job, per sources.

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
The #Browns tried to get Gary Kubiak & Bill Callahan. They’ve considered Dowell Loggains. Now, they set their eyes on Kyle Shanahan tomorrow

Really historic the number of bullets the Browns have taken this offseason.

At some point you have to look in the mirror. http://dreamworker.de/images/smilies/mirror.gif

.

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01-29-2014, 01:10 PM
Gil Brandt ‏@Gil_Brandt
#LSU OC Cam Cameron was officially offered same job w NFLteam but turned it down.

:hmmm: .... who could it be?

badboy
01-30-2014, 03:40 PM
I've heard Brown let the coach go because he was not in favor of drafting Manziel. Can anyone confirm that? I really hope there is truth to ownership wanting JFF and willingness to trade us for him.

1. Manziel 2. Clowney to whomever 3. Bortles to Jags 4. whomever we want but I'm saying Watkins or Mosley or even better another trade down.

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01-30-2014, 04:30 PM
I've heard Brown let the coach go because he was not in favor of drafting Manziel. Can anyone confirm that? I really hope there is truth to ownership wanting JFF and willingness to trade us for him.

1. Manziel 2. Clowney to whomever 3. Bortles to Jags 4. whomever we want but I'm saying Watkins or Mosley or even better another trade down.

Have not heard that, and with the timing and Chud having little power I don't think it was even talked about. I don't think they had any idea so many top guys would say, "No thanks." Myopic.

badboy
01-30-2014, 04:46 PM
Have not heard that, and with the timing and Chud having little power I don't think it was even talked about. I don't think they had any idea so many top guys would say, "No thanks." Myopic.true but how many are good self evaluators?

Dutchrudder
01-30-2014, 05:07 PM
I've heard Brown let the coach go because he was not in favor of drafting Manziel. Can anyone confirm that? I really hope there is truth to ownership wanting JFF and willingness to trade us for him.

1. Manziel 2. Clowney to whomever 3. Bortles to Jags 4. whomever we want but I'm saying Watkins or Mosley or even better another trade down.

That's the rumor, and it would explain a lot. It's very uncommon for a team to fire a coach after 1 year. It's very uncommon for a team to go through so many HC interviews before settling on someone. It's very uncommon for a team to wait so long to get an OC, and it's odd for a team to be so bad at attracting one. Maybe the organization sucks, and nobody wants to work for them, or maybe the GM it turning people off with his interviewing. I don't really know at this point, but it wouldn't surprise me slightest bit if it's all Mike Lombardi's fault.

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01-30-2014, 06:33 PM
...it wouldn't surprise me slightest bit if it's all Mike Lombardi's fault.

Bingo. One of the 3 Stooges... the stoogiest.

I do know Kubiak was firm w/Browns that he wanted to bring 5 coaches with him and the people at the top balked. Front office "coaches" spoil the soup.

thunderkyss
01-30-2014, 08:20 PM
That's the rumor, and it would explain a lot..

Really? Manziel hadn't even declared for the draft when Chudzinski got the axe. Would have been weird to have fired him & Manziel not come out.

Dutchrudder
01-31-2014, 09:20 AM
Really? Manziel hadn't even declared for the draft when Chudzinski got the axe. Would have been weird to have fired him & Manziel not come out.

You're thinking too logically. You have to think like Mike Lombardi. Try to picture yourself as a spoiled child growing up in a household that gave you anything you ever wanted, and your parents always said you were right, no matter how wrong you were. Then think about seeing your dream QB play some great college ball in most of his games, doing things you had never seen a QB do before, and falling in love with him. Then picture yourself as the GM of a team with a HC that didn't share the same man-love for your QB, and said that he didn't fit his offensive system. What would you do?

Blake
01-31-2014, 09:45 AM
Browns fail at life? That's unpossible!

BullNation4Life
01-31-2014, 09:51 AM
You're thinking too logically. You have to think like Mike Lombardi. Try to picture yourself as a spoiled child growing up in a household that gave you anything you ever wanted, and your parents always said you were right, no matter how wrong you were. Then think about seeing your dream QB play some great college ball in most of his games, doing things you had never seen a QB do before, and falling in love with him. Then picture yourself as the GM of a team with a HC that didn't share the same man-love for your QB, and said that he didn't fit his offensive system. What would you do?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/well.gif

badboy
01-31-2014, 12:06 PM
Maybe Gil Brandt and Lombardi hang out together?

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02-01-2014, 11:58 AM
Alex Marvez ‏@alexmarvez
Source tells @foxsports that Kyle Shanahan is Browns new offensive coordinator

thunderkyss
02-01-2014, 02:35 PM
Alex Marvez ‏@alexmarvez

Good for him. Time to see if this little bird can fly.

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02-01-2014, 03:28 PM
Good for him. Time to see if this little bird can fly.

So it'll be interesting...

Ravens good QB, average WR vs. Browns great WR, ? QB running Shanniak system. (Texans HOF WR, ~average QB.)

Lot of 3 & long runs. :kitten:

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02-11-2014, 10:05 AM
Browns clean house...

Vic Carucci ‏@viccarucci
Ray Farmer promoted to GM. Joe Banner to step down as CEO. GM Michael Lombardi to leave the team. Press conf. at 11am


Browns announce Banner, Lombardi to step down (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000325021/article/browns-announce-banner-lombardi-to-step-down)
The offseason shake-up continues in Cleveland.

The Browns on Tuesday announced that CEO Joe Banner and general manager Michael Lombardi are leaving the organization.

Ray Farmer, who toiled under Lombardi, has been promoted to general manager effective immediately. Banner, set to exit over the next two months, released a statement on Tuesday calling the transition "bittersweet."

Team owner Jimmy Haslam also released a statement, thanking Banner and Lombardi for their services before quickly shifting the spotlight to his new hand-picked GM, saying that "we're fortunate" to have Ray Farmer, who "embraces his partnership with (coach) Mike Pettine."

Add it all up, and Tuesday's events are a crystal clear indication that Haslam fully tired of a Banner-led front office that surfaced as the butt of jokes after firing coach Rob Chudzinski after just one season.

Cleveland's front office -- seen around the league as a top-heavy, confusing mass-- has been streamlined. The timing is surprising, perhaps, in that Banner and Lombardi were given input in the hiring of Pettine, but that elongated recruiting process had Haslam's fingerprints all over it from the start.

The biggest winner here is Pettine. The black cloud hanging over his young tenure as coach was a sense that he wouldn't wield any say over his own roster. Instead of dealing with layers of front-office men, Pettine will now work hand-in-hand with Farmer to rebuild a Browns team that hasn't won a playoff game since New Year's Day 1995.

Owner finally ridding himself of the plague that is Mike Lombardi & cohorts. http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs29/f/2008/052/d/8/Pacman_Ghosts_Emoticon_by_BurntheEvidence165.png

infantrycak
02-11-2014, 10:09 AM
Owner finally ridding himself of the plague that is Mike Lombardi & cohorts. http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs29/f/2008/052/d/8/Pacman_Ghosts_Emoticon_by_BurntheEvidence165.png

The owner looks just as incompetent as them. He should have made a decision on them before the decision on firing the coach was made.

ChampionTexan
02-11-2014, 10:10 AM
Browns clean house...

Vic Carucci ‏@viccarucci



Browns announce Banner, Lombardi to step down (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000325021/article/browns-announce-banner-lombardi-to-step-down)


Owner finally ridding himself of the plague that is Mike Lombardi & cohorts. http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs29/f/2008/052/d/8/Pacman_Ghosts_Emoticon_by_BurntheEvidence165.png

First thought: Crud - Lombardi's gonna be back on NFLN now. :facepalm:

Second thought: I wonder if Pettine is gonna survive the preseason (heck, he might be doing good to make it through OTA's):kitten:

Dutchrudder
02-11-2014, 10:34 AM
http://peteygsports.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/cleveland.png

http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1343582685572_7462071.png

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/browns-chic-fil-a_med.jpg

http://www.aquabearlegion.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/rebuilding1.jpg

http://thunderblogsports.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/cleveland-to-baltimore.jpg

Actually, firing Lombardi was a good idea.

Playoffs
02-11-2014, 10:49 AM
The owner looks just as incompetent as them. He should have made a decision on them before the decision on firing the coach was made.

I don't think he knew. Haslam just got educated by the very many interviews the Browns went through and the regular subsequent rejections. At some point he had to wonder what the problem was... and he started making calls/asking questions outside of the presence of Lombardi/Banner... and he learned why no one wanted his HC position. Ends up being an a$$-backward way of doing business, but with the correct outcome imo.

I think he was pressed into this move when Farmer went out to interview with the Dolphins. I think he called him back to Cleveland with the promise of these changes.

So perhaps Haslam is just a crook, and not a fool/stooge (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1906341-browns-front-office-called-three-stooges-at-press-conference) on top of that. :stooges:

paycheck71
02-11-2014, 10:54 AM
I don't know how much of this is Lombardi's fault. He wasn't even present at the Chud's firing announcement. It was the owner and another guy (CEO?) sitting there and talking how they wanted to see in season improvement, but they only regressed.

Well, what kind of improvement can you expect if your #1 and #2 choice at QB goes down?

I'm not saying Lombardi is a genius, but I don't know if all this can be blamed on him. There was clearly a significant rift between him and the ownership on the Chudzinki's firing, and it just never got better.

All IMHO.

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02-11-2014, 10:55 AM
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
Oh. Jimmy Haslam won’t say if any head coach told him he wouldn’t accept the job if Banner or Lombardi was employed. That sticks out.

ChampionTexan
02-11-2014, 10:55 AM
I think he was pressed into this move when Farmer went out to interview with the Dolphins. I think he called him back to Cleveland with the promise of these changes.



It's quite possible he's lieing through his teeth, but Haslam specifically denied that during his press conference this morning.

NFL Philosophy ‏@NFLosophy
Haslam says that Farmer DID NOT know he was going to get this job when he turned down the Dolphins' GM position.
LINK (https://twitter.com/NFLosophy/status/433280437859799040)

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02-11-2014, 11:06 AM
It's quite possible he's lieing through his teeth, but Haslam specifically denied that during his press conference this morning.

NFL Philosophy ‏@NFLosophy

LINK (https://twitter.com/NFLosophy/status/433280437859799040)

Quite possible. If Farmer has a brain at all I'm sure he saw that Miami's FO was even more dysfunctional than the Browns and declined on his own. Another 3-headed monster with all kinds of behind the scenes drama/maneuvering.

Double Barrel
02-11-2014, 11:06 AM
Sometimes, when I'm full of despair,
From the tips of my toes to the ends of my hair,
And all is lost and I'm all out of hope,
The end of a season is the end of a rope.

14 losses, all in a row,
Feels like a trap with nowhere to go,
Makes no sense, no rhyme or reason,
Suffering through another off-season.

Will September ever come?
Will we say we've finally won?
But, with all the Texans ups and downs,
THANK GOD, WE ARE NOT THE BROWNS!

thunderkyss
02-11-2014, 12:40 PM
http://thunderblogsports.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/cleveland-to-baltimore.jpg


Good stuff, this one especially.

Those guys love some football though.

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02-11-2014, 01:01 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
CLEV hiring former Chiefs VP of Player Personnel Bill Kuharich to assist new Browns GM Ray Farmer, per sources. They worked together in KC.

Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks
I only spent 2 yrs with the Browns but I'm beginning to think they owe me a gold watch for my extended employment.

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02-12-2014, 10:40 AM
And there it is...

Why The Browns Blew Up The Franchise … Again (http://mmqb.si.com/2014/02/12/cleveland-browns-jimmy-haslam-fires-joe-banner/)
During a search for a new head coach, owner Jimmy Haslam lost faith in the leadership of CEO Joe Banner and GM Mike Lombardi, so he fired them. Now the Browns—losers of at least 11 games for six straight seasons—start all over

The Cleveland Browns interviewed Ken Whisenhunt for their head-coaching job in each of the past two Januaries, first after he was fired as Arizona’s head coach, and last month when he was employed as San Diego’s offensive coordinator. When Whisenhunt entered the room this year for the interview, he was one of the hottest commodities on the head-coaching market, and the Browns were very interested in him.

Whisenhunt said, “Why didn’t you guys hire me last year?’’

The Browns’ CEO who was in both interviews, Joe Banner, told Whisenhunt he didn’t think the staff he was putting together at the time was “a championship coaching staff.”

Whisenhunt, one NFL source said, was peeved that a man who had never coached and who’d been involved in football mainly on the business side would sit in judgment of his potential coaches.

“Who are you to tell me what makes up a championship coaching staff?” Whisenhunt said, with an edge in his voice...

http://simmqb.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/lombardi-banner-haslam.jpg
Larry, Moe, and Curly. Curly gigging on his own, now.

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02-13-2014, 10:04 PM
...
You know that feeling you have after you make a major move? You sit in your new place, exhausted, irritated, surrounded by boxes, and you think: “I am never, ever moving again.” That’s what it’s like rooting for the Browns. Only the boxes never get unpacked. And the instant you begin to feel just slightly at ease, you have to move again.

So now, it’s Mike Pettine, maybe he will be a good coach, maybe he will be a train-wreck, but either way just keep things the same for a little while and see what happens. A little stability. Just a little stability ...

Right. Tuesday, the Browns announced that Lombardi and Banner were leaving the team. Of course they are. Banner, in one of the greatest ever misuses of a word, called his departure, “bittersweet.” This would suggest that his departure was a little bit bitter and a little bit sweet. You tell me, what was sweet about taking the job, firing the old coach, hiring a new coach, trading a player many regarded as the team’s future star, losing a lot of games, firing the new coach, hiring a new-new coach and then getting shoved out the door? What was sweet about that? The food? The company car? What?

The new, new, new Browns GM is Ray Farmer, who I knew a little bit in Kansas City and who is, best I can tell, a fine guy and a fine football guy. But what difference does that make? At this point, he’s only even odds to make it through Valentine’s Day.

The Browns owner JImmy Haslam is the man behind this fiasco. He explained Tuesday that this latest bit of lunacy, like all the other bits of lunacy, was meant to “provide our fans with the winning organization they have long deserved.” And this is the point. Jimmy Haslam, like all dreadful owners, has no earthly idea what a winning organization looks like. He just knows what one doesn’t look like.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/haslam-wreaking-havoc-cleveland

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02-16-2014, 09:14 AM
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/02/cleveland_browns_ray_farmer_q.html

These and other questions were answered in two interviews with Farmer, one during Super Bowl week when he was still assistant GM, and one on Wednesday, a day after he took over for Lombardi.

Nothing like being thrown into the fire in your first few months on the job, right? With that, here's what the new GM Ray Farmer is thinking:

Q: If you had to pick a quarterback tomorrow, do you have your man?

A: Yes, I do. I've studied the quarterbacks and I've studied other players, and I've already started to formulate the rank and order of each position. I do know what I'd do if I was held down at the moment. It doesn't mean that can't change, but I currently have somebody in front.

Q: Will you draft a quarterback?

A: I don't think we have to do anything. The charge is to get it right regardless of which position. (But) I there are players in this draft who can help us at that position and dependent upon where they're at and where we're at, if the two can match up, we can be in good shape. I just don't know if we're going to have the opportunity to take those players.

Q: The guy you have in mind, would you take him at No. 4?

A: I'd say that No. 4 is not necessarily where I would take the guy that I like. Again, it may not be the name that everybody thinks is the latest, greatest, and the easy one to spot. There's definitely an art to selecting people in the draft and it's finding the right name that fits who you want to be.

Q: Do the coaches and scouts know who your No. 1 quarterback is?

A: I haven't revealed to many people who that person is that I may like. I think it's an interesting debate. If I were to say 'I like player A' I don't know if it poisons the pool. I'll let everybody else have the conversations before I comment. They might say 'I like player A too' instead of giving honest feedback.
...
Q: What do you think of Johnny Football? Your offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan has already said, 'who wouldn't like him?'

A: He's a good football player. That's what Kyle recognizes, that guys that are exciting to watch and can play football, that's positive. The really good ones are easy to spot. The guys that jump off the tape, those are the fun ones and those are the days that you sit in the film room and wish you could watch two more games.

Q: Are you comfortable with the character issues involving Manziel?

A: It's about getting a full, comprehensive report. Who is the guy as a football player? What's his football knowledge? What are his work habits? What's his ability or demeanor to want to eat the tape and work on it and grind on it? What's his level of intelligence? Everybody won't have the same boxes checked.

There will be some blemishes on each of them. It depends on how bad those blemishes are.
...
Q: Will Shanahan have a big say in the QB decisions?

A: He'll be a part of what we're doing and how we get it done. We'll definitely allow Kyle a chance to have his input. He'll make comments, he'll be in the process and ultimately coach Pettine and I will decide who to acquire.

Q: Is there anything that can move you off your favorite quarterback between now and the draft?

A: The one thing that could cause people to change off their position is the character. You start to get a better feel for who the person is. I've always been told that your talent may get you places but if your character can't keep you there, you'll fail. (Former NFL head coach) Herm Edwards always says 'it's not always the skill it's the will.' They can lose some standing in the pecking order depending on the type of people they are.
...
Q: Are you willing to trade up to get your guy?

A: That would depend on what's the cost and who's the player. If it's somebody that I can't miss and it's exactly what you want it to be and the cost is relative, then you make the decision that you need to make to get the players that you want.

Errant Hothy
02-21-2014, 04:26 PM
And yet they almost landed Harbaugh?!?

link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/21/sources-browns-nearly-traded-for-jim-harbaugh/)

That would have been a wow moment.

Dutchrudder
02-21-2014, 04:36 PM
And yet they almost landed Harbaugh?!?

link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/21/sources-browns-nearly-traded-for-jim-harbaugh/)

That would have been a wow moment.

Wow, that would be incredible! Too bad for the Browns, they got a mediocre DC to be their head coach instead. Harbaugh with the #4 pick to get a QB to develop would be ideal.

Errant Hothy
02-21-2014, 04:43 PM
Wow, that would be incredible! Too bad for the Browns, they got a mediocre DC to be their head coach instead. Harbaugh with the #4 pick to get a QB to develop would be ideal.

Unless the #4 pick was part of the deal to get Harbaugh.

thunderkyss
02-21-2014, 05:08 PM
Wow, that would be incredible! Too bad for the Browns, they got a mediocre DC to be their head coach instead. Harbaugh with the #4 pick to get a QB to develop would be ideal.

As good as Harbaugh looks, he's only a cog in the wheel. Until they get their organization in order, whatever coach goes there, whatever QB goes there, whatever GM goes there is going to look like crap. Their problem starts way before the football field.


Just like the 9ers needed to settle their "in-fighting" before things started going their way. Terrell Owens wasn't their problem, he wasn't the problem in Philly either. He just blew it all up.

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02-21-2014, 05:21 PM
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
In response to @ProFootballTalk report on #Browns nearly trading for Jim Harbaugh, #Niners source calls it “completely false. Ridiculous.”

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer
... that some discussion could've happened through back channels.

I asked 3 weeks ago when I heard the Browns/Harbaugh rumor, high-ranking 49ers source said "not that I'm aware of" but left open ...

thunderkyss
02-21-2014, 05:43 PM
I thought the NFL stopped allowing teams to trade draft picks for coaches after the Gruden deal.

CloakNNNdagger
02-21-2014, 09:52 PM
Riiiiiiiiight!........."totally ridiculous"!

Mort confirms “substance” of our Harbaugh report (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/21/mort-confirms-substance-of-our-harbaugh-report/)
Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2014, 10:23 PM EST


It’s been an interesting day in Indianapolis.

Not long after finishing the last of 19 coach/G.M. interviews for Pro Football Talk on NBCSN, we nailed down the news that the Browns and 49ers had a trade in place to send Jim Harbaugh to Cleveland, and that Harbaugh ultimately opted not to consummate the deal.

The Browns did not deny the news, telling PFT that there would be no comment on the specific report, but explaining that many options were considered during the search for a new coach. The 49ers didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

The 49ers apparently opted to try a different approach to denying the report with a press release, leaking to NFL Media via an unnamed source that the notion that the report is both “completely false” and “ridiculous.” It seemed odd that the 49ers wouldn’t use those terms on the record if the report were indeed “completely false” and “ridiculous,” so we pointed that out.

So then 49ers CEO Jed York decided to address the situation on Twitter. “Report isn’t true,” York said.

It’s unclear whether York takes issue with all or just part of the report. He has declined a request to elaborate, explaining to PFT that he has nothing more to add.

Enter Chris Mortensen of ESPN.

“Browns did indeed make a run at Jim Harbaugh that reached a serious stage, sources confirm substance of @ProFootballTalk report,” Mortensen said via Twitter.

Given the sensitive nature of the relationship between the 49ers and Harbaugh — a relationship sufficiently volatile to apparently prompt the 49ers to consider ending it — it’s easy to understand why the 49ers would take the position that the report isn’t true. Since the trade didn’t happen, the 49ers need to work with Harbaugh.

They also may need to sign Harbaugh to a long-term contract, breaking the impasse that currently exists, according to Matt Maiocco of CSNBayArea.com.

In the end, the biggest winner could be Harbaugh. For the 49ers to persuade the average fan that they really didn’t think about divorcing Harbaugh, the 49ers may need to renew the vows.

Vows written by Harbaugh.

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02-21-2014, 09:56 PM
Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport
Browns did indeed make a run at Jim Harbaugh that reached a serious stage, sources confirm substance of @ProFootballTalk report.


Why is it when Florio comes up with a headline I have the feeling it was either completely made up or something shared in confidence with him that he "swore on his mother's grave" he wouldn't publish while he texted it out to PFT?

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02-22-2014, 05:08 PM
How did the 49ers/Harbaugh-almost-but-not-really-to-Cleveland scenario happen? My most plausible 9-step thesis, and what it means (http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2014/02/22/how-did-the-49ersharbaugh-almost-but-not-really-to-cleveland-scenario-happen-my-most-plausible-8-step-thesis-and-what-it-means/)
If you just don’t want to believe any part of PFT’s blockbuster report yesterday that the Cleveland Browns recently had a deal in place to acquire Jim Harbaugh from the 49ers before it collapsed… that there is nothing here to examine at all…

That’s your call and it’s an understandable call...

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02-23-2014, 06:44 PM
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Browns owner Haslam confirms team went after Jim Harbaugh (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24454951/browns-owner-jimmy-haslam-confirms-team-went-after-jim-harbaugh)
"There was an opportunity there and it didn't materialize," Haslam told USA Today. That's all Haslam had to say on the subject, but that's all he needed to say. He confirmed there were at least talks on Cleveland's part to obtain Harbaugh.

The situation gets even more interesting when you look back on a press conference Harbaugh held on Jan. 21 when he was actually asked about Cleveland.

Reporter: Can you say if the Browns have contacted you about anyone on your staff?

Harbaugh: I've had conversations with the Browns.

Reporter: You have?

Harbaugh: Yeah.

Reporter: Regarding?

Harbaugh: Regarding our coaches, yes.

Reporter: So that's a possibility as far as that opening?

Harbaugh: Yeah, there are possibilities.

Reporter: Is it just one? There was a report about defensive line coach Jim Tomsula. Is he the one or are there others that the Browns have asked about?

Harbaugh: Again, you start talking about other people's jobs -- that's their situation. You asked me if I've talked to anybody about our coaches, yes. Going into any further detail -- I don't think it helps our situation, their situation. Their search is their search.

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02-24-2014, 04:51 PM
Battle by the Bay (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000328906/article/49ers-not-inclined-to-beg-jim-harbaugh-to-stay)
"As much as York and his top executives value Harbaugh and appreciate the swift and sublime success he has enjoyed since arriving in 2011, a stretch that has included three consecutive NFC Championship Game appearances and a near-miss Super Bowl defeat, they are not inclined to beg him to stick around, either through words or emphatic financial gestures of support," Silver writes.
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"We didn't do that when we hired him in the first place, either. Why would we run scared?" one top 49ers official told Silver. (That's in reference to San Francisco's refusal to raise Harbaugh's offer after the Miami Dolphins made a run to hire him.)
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"Simply put, the Niners' brass believes that general manager Trent Baalke has assembled a talented team and is likely to continue making smart roster decisions -- and that Harbaugh is hardly the only person who could coach this team to a championship," Silver writes.

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03-04-2014, 02:55 PM
Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer
News from @BullandFox that Joe Banner has left the Browns is interesting. Plan was for him to stay on until spring. Farmer in charge now.

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Dutchrudder
03-04-2014, 03:16 PM
The Cleveland Browns, we take the fun out of dysfunctional!