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Blake
01-21-2014, 08:22 AM
This is NOT a sign up for the mock draft. Just a thread to start discussing when we want to do it, and to give everyone a heads up well in advance so when the time comes to sign up they aren't left out because they didnt see the signup.

The NFL Combine is February 22-25 and the NFL Draft is May 8th. I suggest waiting until after the combine to do our draft. I think it goes without saying, but if you choose to participate you should know more than just round 1 prospects, and be available everyday to update your "big board" or make a selection. If we want to take the slow, let everyone have a day to pick approach, then we would need to start in February before the combine.

What are everyone's thoughts/concerns?

bah007
01-21-2014, 08:25 AM
I see no point in doing anything before the combine. And I agree about knowing prospects further down the board. It never fails that the further we get into it people just stop showing up and it turns into group selections.

TexansFTW
01-21-2014, 08:35 AM
How do yall decide who gets what teams?

Blake
01-21-2014, 08:39 AM
How do yall decide who gets what teams?

Generally its first come first served. But you need to be a regular around here. Someone we can count on being available/reliable to do the work (research) and make picks. I do not think we have 32 posters who fit the mold so most everyone who is a draft fan gets a team.

mussop
01-21-2014, 08:44 AM
I'm down.

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 08:52 AM
We need to wait until after the combine is completed. You will know which pick the Cowboys have, you will know compensatory picks, and you will have accurate measurements for all the players. There's still a lot of debate about the QB's size, weight, hand size, etc... That could shake up a lot of people's picks.

The NFL Combine will be April 12-13.
The NFL Draft will be May 8-10.

That gives us nearly a month to get through this before we run into the actual draft. I think that is plenty of time.

steelbtexan
01-21-2014, 09:08 AM
This is NOT a sign up for the mock draft. Just a thread to start discussing when we want to do it, and to give everyone a heads up well in advance so when the time comes to sign up they aren't left out because they didnt see the signup.

The NFL Combine is February 22-25 and the NFL Draft is May 8th. (Is anyone else loving the fact that the draft is so early?) I suggest waiting until after the combine to do our draft which gives us 10 days to complete our "speed" mock. I think it goes without saying, but if you choose to participate you should know more than just round 1 prospects, and be available everyday to update your "big board" or make a selection. If we want to take the slow, let everyone have a day to pick approach, then we would need to start in February before the combine.

What are everyone's thoughts/concerns?

My suggestion would by for 16 responsible people to take 2 teams each. This eliminates the stragglers that sign up and draft for 1 round then quit. Last yrs mock draft went really smoothly. (Thanks Blake/Dutch/76 for helping make this happen.) So members that participated last yr get 1st shot at signing up this yr.

I dont think it wouldn't hurt to go ahead and sign up our teams. For example, I have been keeping up with the Bears and Cardinals vaguely.

I find that after the 1st week or two of FA is over is the best time to start the draft. I moderated last yrs draft with a lot of help from others. If somebody else wants to moderate this yrs draft that would be fine with me. I'm more than willing to help out any way that I can.

I want to thank all of the members that help make the TT mock draft the best one that I've participated in. The mock draft helps me learn about other teams need and how various members value players. Thanks for helping me sharpen my draft knowledge, so I have an idea where players should be slotted in the real NFL draft.

NCTexan
01-21-2014, 09:10 AM
I think that after the combine would nice. I also agree that it might be easier to have 16 people with two teams, but I don't want to exclude anyone either.

steelbtexan
01-21-2014, 09:12 AM
We need to wait until after the combine is completed. You will know which pick the Cowboys have, you will know compensatory picks, and you will have accurate measurements for all the players. There's still a lot of debate about the QB's size, weight, hand size, etc... That could shake up a lot of people's picks.

The NFL Combine will be April 12-13.
The NFL Draft will be May 8-10.

That gives us nearly a month to get through this before we run into the actual draft. I think that is plenty of time.

Is FA after the draft?

I like your time frame. It usually takes 2-3 weeks to finish a mock draft.

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 09:38 AM
Is FA after the draft?

I like your time frame. It usually takes 2-3 weeks to finish a mock draft.

Free Agency starts March 11, 2014. We will have a month of free agent movement before the combine is complete, which is plenty of time for things to shake out.

NFL Key Dates calendar: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8795630/p2014-nfl-key-dates-p

I think Monday April 14th is the ideal start date.

Oh, and I'll be happy to do the Google Draft Spreadsheet again. Last year's was fun :)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AscQRwKjB5B9dGc3SmxVcHhlLUlseFdfLVp2Rjl3V 2c&usp=drive_web#gid=11

Blake
01-21-2014, 09:49 AM
So its decided. We will start after the combine. March 3rd?

Lets start "sign ups" on Monday, the 27th. You throw your name in the hat. A team with a first round pick will be assigned to you.

WAS and IND do not have a first round pick. We can make those teams group picks unless someone REALLY REALLY wants to be their GM.

bah007
01-21-2014, 09:56 AM
So its decided. We will start after the combine. March 3rd?

Lets start "sign ups" on Monday, the 27th. You throw your name in the hat. A team with a first round pick will be assigned to you.

WAS and IND do not have a first round pick. We can make those teams group picks unless someone REALLY REALLY wants to be their GM.

I'd prefer to have a first round pick, but I feel confident in the lower rounds of this draft so I'd volunteer to take either team, or both, if nobody else was interested.

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 10:06 AM
So its decided. We will start after the combine. March 3rd?

Lets start "sign ups" on Monday, the 27th. You throw your name in the hat. A team with a first round pick will be assigned to you.

WAS and IND do not have a first round pick. We can make those teams group picks unless someone REALLY REALLY wants to be their GM.

March 3rd? Where do you get that date from?

Blake
01-21-2014, 10:09 AM
March 3rd? Where do you get that date from?

Wouldnt that be the Monday after the combine concludes? Do you have a better date in mind?

TexansFTW
01-21-2014, 10:12 AM
March 3rd? Where do you get that date from?

I saw you posted that the combine was in April, but it's not, it's Feb 22-25.

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 10:14 AM
I saw you posted that the combine was in April, but it's not, it's Feb 22-25.

Ohhhhhhh, there are like a dozen combines this year... What the hell?

2014 Regional Combines schedule
Date
Location
Facility
Feb. 8-9**
Houston
Methodist Training Center
Feb. 15-16**
New York/New Jersey
Atlantic Health Jets Training Facility
Feb. 22
Los Angeles
Orange Coast College-Lebard Stadium
March 1
Tampa Bay
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Training Facility
March 8-9
Atlanta
Atlanta Falcons Training Facility
March 15
Chicago
Halas Hall at Conway Park
March 22
Miami
Doctors Hospital Training Facility
March 22-23**
Seattle
Virginia Mason Athletic Center
March 29
Indianapolis
Indiana Farm Bureau Football Center
March 29-30
Baltimore
Under Armour Performance Center
April 12-13*
Detroit
Ford Field

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000274249/article/nfl-announces-2014-regional-combine-schedule

steelbtexan
01-21-2014, 10:15 AM
So its decided. We will start after the combine. March 3rd?

Lets start "sign ups" on Monday, the 27th. You throw your name in the hat. A team with a first round pick will be assigned to you.

WAS and IND do not have a first round pick. We can make those teams group picks unless someone REALLY REALLY wants to be their GM.

Are you willing to take on the lead moderator role? What do you think about the 2 team 16 person format.

If your OK with that Give me the Bears and Cards if I miss signup day.

Fred
01-21-2014, 10:29 AM
Ohhhhhhh, there are like a dozen combines this year... What the hell?



http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000274249/article/nfl-announces-2014-regional-combine-schedule

The "real" combine is in Indy in late Feb. There are zillions of regional combines - mostly for players who aren't invited to Indy. "I was 3rd string on my D3 team, but I gots mad skillz."

Blake
01-21-2014, 10:32 AM
Are you willing to take on the lead moderator role? What do you think about the 2 team 16 person format.

If your OK with that Give me the Bears and Cards if I miss signup day.

I will help moderate the mock. Last year was a nice team effort. I think some people might be left out if we do 16. But will leave that decision up to the consensus.

Blake
01-21-2014, 10:34 AM
Ohhhhhhh, there are like a dozen combines this year... What the hell?

The "real" combine is in Indy in late Feb. There are zillions of regional combines - mostly for players who aren't invited to Indy. "I was 3rd string on my D3 team, but I gots mad skillz."

Correct. The real NFL Combine (http://www.nfl.com/combine) is Feb 22-25.

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 10:37 AM
Correct. The real NFL Combine (http://www.nfl.com/combine) is Feb 22-25.

Oh OK, I see now. Well I would suggest waiting until a week after free agency starts. Free Agency begins Tuesday March 11, 2014. The Monday after that is March 17th, which could work, or that Tuesday if you want to give it a full week.

I believe last year we started a week after free agency, and I think that helped a lot of folks. You don't want to have your draft ruined because your team picks up a big time free agent at a position of need.

Blake
01-21-2014, 10:43 AM
Oh OK, I see now. Well I would suggest waiting until a week after free agency starts. Free Agency begins Tuesday March 11, 2014. The Monday after that is March 17th, which could work, or that Tuesday if you want to give it a full week.

I believe last year we started a week after free agency, and I think that helped a lot of folks. You don't want to have your draft ruined because your team picks up a big time free agent at a position of need.

Good point. I could be down with that. It makes alot of sense.

TexansFTW
01-21-2014, 10:45 AM
Oh OK, I see now. Well I would suggest waiting until a week after free agency starts. Free Agency begins Tuesday March 11, 2014. The Monday after that is March 17th, which could work, or that Tuesday if you want to give it a full week.

I believe last year we started a week after free agency, and I think that helped a lot of folks. You don't want to have your draft ruined because your team picks up a big time free agent at a position of need.

I think this is a good idea and 2nd it.

I also think you should just let everyone sign up and then there will likely be many people that have to do 2 teams, just have people sign up for the 2 teams as needed.

Also, do yall do a "lock your mock" thing here? Where everyone posts their mock they believe/hope the Texans will do and we all see who is the most accurate? It would be cool to do one of those with a scoring system, deadline for submission, and possible gambling?

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 10:56 AM
I think this is a good idea and 2nd it.

I also think you should just let everyone sign up and then there will likely be many people that have to do 2 teams, just have people sign up for the 2 teams as needed.

It has varied in the past. I know people have other favorite teams that they want, but the Texans pick is usually the most controversial. In the past we have done it where the Texans pick is a vote among 5-10 players, but the last couple we have just assigned someone the team randomly.

I'm thinking this year we could do something different, and I'll be happy to manage it if the other Mock Admins are in favor of it. I'll create a new Google spreadsheet for the 2014 mock, and everyone will be able to sign up. However, instead of just signing your name next to a team or throwing it in a random bucket, you pick 3 teams that you want to draft for all 7 rounds. Rank them as 1,2,3 in the order the columns set up, and I'll do my best to ensure that everyone gets at least 1 of their top 3 teams.

For the Texans, since I'm sure many folks will want them, I'll take everyone who lists them and randomly select one. If there are any other teams with an inordinate amount of people picking them, then we may do the same, but the Texans will be the first selected.

If there are folks that don't get a top 3 team for some reason, I'll fill in as many of the teams as possible, and then allow anyone who doesn't have a team yet to choose among the remaining teams.

Also, do yall do a "lock your mock" thing here? Where everyone posts their mock they believe/hope the Texans will do and we all see who is the most accurate? It would be cool to do one of those with a scoring system, deadline for submission, and possible gambling?

I think we have always had threads like that pop up each year around draft time, but nothing really formal. For the purposes of this mock draft, we don't do that particular thing, but you're welcome to start a thread and manage that if you like :)

WolverineFan
01-21-2014, 11:13 AM
It has varied in the past. I know people have other favorite teams that they want, but the Texans pick is usually the most controversial. In the past we have done it where the Texans pick is a vote among 5-10 players, but the last couple we have just assigned someone the team randomly.

Didn't bah007 run the Texans draft last year and he picked Keenan Allen 1st round and everyone hated it? Oops...

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 11:31 AM
I don't believe this is entirely correct, but here is a listing each team with their number of draft picks that I was able to pull together:

Team Number of picks Picks (Round.Pick)
ARI 6 1.20, 2.20, 3.20, 4.20, 5.20, 6.20
ATL 7 1.6, 2.6, 3.6, 4.6, 5.6, 6.6, 7.6
BAL 4 1.16, 2.16, 3.16, 6.16
BUF 7 1.9, 2.9, 3.9, 4.9, 5.9, 6.9, 7.9
CAR 7 1.28, 2.28, 3.28, 4.28, 5.28, 6.28, 7.12 (CAR)
CHI 6 1.14, 2.14, 3.14, 4.14, 5.14, 6.7 (TB), 6.14
CIN 7 1.24, 2.24, 3.24, 4.24, 5.24, 6.24, 7.24
CLE 10 1.4, 1.26 (IND), 2.4, 3.4, 3.15 (PIT), 4.4, 4.26 (IND), 5.4, 6.4, 7.4
DAL 8 1.17, 2.17, 3.17, 4.17, 5.17, 7.14(CHI), 7.17, 7.23(KC)
DEN 7 1.31, 2.31, 3.31, 4.31, 5.31, 6.31, 7.31
DET 6 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10, 6.10, 7.10
GB 7 1.21, 2.21, 3.21, 4.21, 5.21, 6.21, 7.21
HOU 7 1.1, 2.1, 3.1, 4.1, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1
IND 5 2.26, 3.26, 5.26, 6.26, 7.16(BAL)
JAX 10 1.3, 2.3, 3.3, 4.3, 4.16 (BAL), 5.3, 5.10 (DET), 5.16(BAL), 6.3, 7.3
KC 6 1.23, 3.23, 4.23, 5.23, 6.17 (DAL), 6.23
MIA 7 1.19, 2.19, 3.19, 4.19, 5.19, 6.19, 7.19
MIN 8 1.8, 2.8, 3.8, 3.32 (SEA), 4.8, 5.8, 6.8, 7.8
NE 7 1.30, 2.30, 3.30, 4.30, 6.22 (PHI), 6.30, 7.30
NO 6 1.27, 2.27, 3.27, 4.27, 5.27, 6.27
NYG 6 1.12, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12, 6.12
NYJ 7 1.18, 2.18, 3.18, 4.18, 5.18, 6.18, 7.18
OAK 7 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, 4.5, 5.5, 7.5, 7.20 (ARI)
PHI 7 1.22, 2.22, 3.22, 4.22, 5.22, 5.30 (NE), 7.22
PIT 6 1.15, 2.15, 4.15, 5.15, 6.15, 7.15
SD 7 1.25, 2.25, 3.25, 4.25, 5.25, 6.25, 7.25
SEA 7 1.32, 2.32, 4.32, 5.32, 6.5(OAK), 6.32, 7.32
SF 12 1.29, 2.23 (KC), 2.29, 3.11 (TEN), 3.29, 4.29, 5.29, 6.29, 7.26(IND), 7.27(NO) , 7.28(CAR), 7.29
STL 8 1.13, 1.2 (WAS), 2.13, 3.13, 4.13, 5.13, 6.13, 7.13
TB 6 1.7, 2.7, 3.7, 4.7, 5.7, 7.7
TEN 6 1.11, 2.11, 4.11, 5.11, 6.11, 7.11
WAS 6 2.2, 3.2, 4.2, 5.2, 6.2, 7.2

WolverineFan
01-21-2014, 11:31 AM
Oh and naturally I'm down for this again. I also agree that the ideal starting time would be post-combine and about a week into Free Agency.

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 11:39 AM
Blake, Steelb, 76Texan (if you want to help this year), if you guys want to pursue the sign-up idea I had, I created the 2014 spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AscQRwKjB5B9dEtMeHkzSHRpZ3NKUURPTTRMaEc5S Gc#gid=15

I think it might work. If not, we can always do a random generator. If we start signups now, we can let people get an early start on studying.

WolverineFan
01-21-2014, 11:46 AM
Blake, Steelb, 76Texan (if you want to help this year), if you guys want to pursue the sign-up idea I had, I created the 2014 spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AscQRwKjB5B9dEtMeHkzSHRpZ3NKUURPTTRMaEc5S Gc#gid=15

I think it might work. If not, we can always do a random generator. If we start signups now, we can let people get an early start on studying.

Sense that's been said I'll just jump out and say it then. I'd like to have SF again. I had them last year and they're one of my favorite teams after the Texans.

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 11:47 AM
Sense that's been said I'll just jump out and say it then. I'd like to have SF again. I had them last year and they're one of my favorite teams after the Texans.

Hehe, and they have 12 picks... BEFORE compensatory picks are added!

bah007
01-21-2014, 11:49 AM
If we're really doing this I'd like Seattle. They always end up drafting the guys I like the most anyway.

WolverineFan
01-21-2014, 11:56 AM
Hehe, and they have 12 picks... BEFORE compensatory picks are added!

Haha I will admit it doesn't hurt. Since they've hired Harbaugh though I can't help but root for them. Really wish he had given the Michigan job a shot, but he's an NFL guy.

kiwitexansfan
01-21-2014, 12:04 PM
I sat out last year but would want back in this year.

Start things after the combine and after Free Agency has been going for a bit.

I would rather one team each than two if there are the numbers interested.

Also would rather teams without first rounders still get personal GMs if possible.

If we are picking teams, I would like Gang Green.

kiwitexansfan
01-21-2014, 12:31 PM
When are comp picks announced?

Does that factor in to timing?

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 12:33 PM
When are comp picks announced?

Does that factor in to timing?

At the combine, I believe. I know we added them to the mock draft last year, so I would expect us to do the same. It's likely the Texans will get 3 or 4.

TexansFTW
01-21-2014, 12:36 PM
Blake, Steelb, 76Texan (if you want to help this year), if you guys want to pursue the sign-up idea I had, I created the 2014 spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AscQRwKjB5B9dEtMeHkzSHRpZ3NKUURPTTRMaEc5S Gc#gid=15

I think it might work. If not, we can always do a random generator. If we start signups now, we can let people get an early start on studying.

I think your thing is read only. I was trying to fill it out and make my 1, 2, and 3 team selections but couldn't edit it.

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 12:40 PM
I think your thing is read only. I was trying to fill it out and make my 1, 2, and 3 team selections but couldn't edit it.

Sorry about that, give it another shot.

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 01:10 PM
I'm thinking that we could add a tie-breaker component to picking the teams as well, like a combination of Join Date on the TT board and post count. That would be a gauge of seniority on the board and active participation over the years. It would only be used for teams with multiple people picking the same team #1, but it would make the selection a bit more fair. I'd rather just give people teams that they like, but I think with 32 people involved, that makes it a bit difficult. We shall see how the list shakes out and I'll discuss it with the other draft admins.

TexansSeminole
01-21-2014, 03:03 PM
I'm down again, as always.

If I got to choose, I would naturally want the Texans, then the Eagles and/or Dolphins.

Marshall
01-21-2014, 03:06 PM
I see no point in doing anything before the combine. And I agree about knowing prospects further down the board. It never fails that the further we get into it people just stop showing up and it turns into group selections.

I will not participate in the Draft. It's much more fun to poke holes in the hard work of others.

Marshall
01-21-2014, 03:10 PM
My suggestion would by for 16 responsible people to take 2 teams each. This eliminates the stragglers that sign up and draft for 1 round then quit. Last yrs mock draft went really smoothly. (Thanks Blake/Dutch/76 for helping make this happen.) So members that participated last yr get 1st shot at signing up this yr.

I dont think it wouldn't hurt to go ahead and sign up our teams. For example, I have been keeping up with the Bears and Cardinals vaguely.

I find that after the 1st week or two of FA is over is the best time to start the draft. I moderated last yrs draft with a lot of help from others. If somebody else wants to moderate this yrs draft that would be fine with me. I'm more than willing to help out any way that I can.

I want to thank all of the members that help make the TT mock draft the best one that I've participated in. The mock draft helps me learn about other teams need and how various members value players. Thanks for helping me sharpen my draft knowledge, so I have an idea where players should be slotted in the real NFL draft.

There needs to be a couple of people who will make the choices for those with emergencies or other excuses for not making their pick in a timely manner. There are always one or two who can't get their act together for some reason or other.

Marshall
01-21-2014, 03:14 PM
I don't believe this is entirely correct, but here is a listing each team with their number of draft picks that I was able to pull together:

Team Number of picks Picks (Round.Pick)
ARI 6 1.20, 2.20, 3.20, 4.20, 5.20, 6.20
ATL 7 1.6, 2.6, 3.6, 4.6, 5.6, 6.6, 7.6
BAL 4 1.16, 2.16, 3.16, 6.16
BUF 7 1.9, 2.9, 3.9, 4.9, 5.9, 6.9, 7.9
CAR 7 1.28, 2.28, 3.28, 4.28, 5.28, 6.28, 7.12 (CAR)
CHI 6 1.14, 2.14, 3.14, 4.14, 5.14, 6.7 (TB), 6.14
CIN 7 1.24, 2.24, 3.24, 4.24, 5.24, 6.24, 7.24
CLE 10 1.4, 1.26 (IND), 2.4, 3.4, 3.15 (PIT), 4.4, 4.26 (IND), 5.4, 6.4, 7.4
DAL 8 1.17, 2.17, 3.17, 4.17, 5.17, 7.14(CHI), 7.17, 7.23(KC)
DEN 7 1.31, 2.31, 3.31, 4.31, 5.31, 6.31, 7.31
DET 6 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10, 6.10, 7.10
GB 7 1.21, 2.21, 3.21, 4.21, 5.21, 6.21, 7.21
HOU 7 1.1, 2.1, 3.1, 4.1, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1
IND 5 2.26, 3.26, 5.26, 6.26, 7.16(BAL)
JAX 10 1.3, 2.3, 3.3, 4.3, 4.16 (BAL), 5.3, 5.10 (DET), 5.16(BAL), 6.3, 7.3
KC 6 1.23, 3.23, 4.23, 5.23, 6.17 (DAL), 6.23
MIA 7 1.19, 2.19, 3.19, 4.19, 5.19, 6.19, 7.19
MIN 8 1.8, 2.8, 3.8, 3.32 (SEA), 4.8, 5.8, 6.8, 7.8
NE 7 1.30, 2.30, 3.30, 4.30, 6.22 (PHI), 6.30, 7.30
NO 6 1.27, 2.27, 3.27, 4.27, 5.27, 6.27
NYG 6 1.12, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12, 6.12
NYJ 7 1.18, 2.18, 3.18, 4.18, 5.18, 6.18, 7.18
OAK 7 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, 4.5, 5.5, 7.5, 7.20 (ARI)
PHI 7 1.22, 2.22, 3.22, 4.22, 5.22, 5.30 (NE), 7.22
PIT 6 1.15, 2.15, 4.15, 5.15, 6.15, 7.15
SD 7 1.25, 2.25, 3.25, 4.25, 5.25, 6.25, 7.25
SEA 7 1.32, 2.32, 4.32, 5.32, 6.5(OAK), 6.32, 7.32
SF 12 1.29, 2.23 (KC), 2.29, 3.11 (TEN), 3.29, 4.29, 5.29, 6.29, 7.26(IND), 7.27(NO) , 7.28(CAR), 7.29
STL 8 1.13, 1.2 (WAS), 2.13, 3.13, 4.13, 5.13, 6.13, 7.13
TB 6 1.7, 2.7, 3.7, 4.7, 5.7, 7.7
TEN 6 1.11, 2.11, 4.11, 5.11, 6.11, 7.11
WAS 6 2.2, 3.2, 4.2, 5.2, 6.2, 7.2


Will comp picks be included?

JCTexan
01-21-2014, 03:14 PM
I don't know if I participated in it last year but I've done a few in the past here and I would be interested in doing it again this year. I would recommend drawing teams two weeks in advance so we can study the team we're picking for.

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 03:19 PM
Will comp picks be included?

Yes, but not until they are announced by the NFL during the combine. The Baltimore and Dallas coin flip for draft position will also be determined then.

I don't know if I participated in it last year but I've done a few in the past here and I would be interested in doing it again this year. I would recommend drawing teams two weeks in advance so we can study the team we're picking for.

If you or anyone else wants to sign up for the mock draft, just go ahead and fill in the spreadsheet I made. It's a lot easier to track this stuff on there rather than sorting through dozens of pages of posts.

Link here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AscQRwKjB5B9dEtMeHkzSHRpZ3NKUURPTTRMaEc5S Gc#gid=15

JCTexan, you were not a part of the draft last year. The list of participants was:
Team General Manager
Kansas City Wolf 6151
Jacksonville Blake
Oakland srrono*
Philadelphia Texans Seminole
Detroit 76Texan
Cleveland Texan4Ever
Arizona Steel B Texan
Buffalo Bong*
New York Jets dsr 23
Tennessee Senior Stan
San Diego Wolverine Fan
Miami Texans Seminole
Tampa Bay Ndevine7
Carolina Honoring Earl
New Orleans htown fan32
St. Louis RT22
Pittsburgh Honoring Earl
Dallas Rock-N-Randy
New York Giants htownfan32
Chicago Dutchrudder
Cincinnati Corrosion
St. Louis RT22
Minnesota NC Texan
Indianapolis Rey
Minnesota NC Texan
Green Bay Senor Stan
Houston Corrosion
Denver Senor Stan
New England Coon
Atlanta Bong
San Francisco Wolverine Fan
Baltimore Rock-N-Randy

We only had a few GMs with multiple teams, so I don't see why we would need to do only 16 GMs this year. Let's just get the folks who wanna join signed up, and then we'll figure out who gets what teams. There are only a couple teams with very few picks.

bah007
01-21-2014, 03:20 PM
I will not participate in the Draft. It's much more fun to poke holes in the hard work of others.

This role is necessary as well. We need an audience after all.

HOU-TEX
01-21-2014, 03:25 PM
Comp picks weren't announced until mid to late March the past couple of seasons. This year the draft is pushed into May, so it might be even later before announced this year. Just an FYI

TexansFTW
01-21-2014, 03:45 PM
I'm thinking that we could add a tie-breaker component to picking the teams as well, like a combination of Join Date on the TT board and post count. That would be a gauge of seniority on the board and active participation over the years. It would only be used for teams with multiple people picking the same team #1, but it would make the selection a bit more fair. I'd rather just give people teams that they like, but I think with 32 people involved, that makes it a bit difficult. We shall see how the list shakes out and I'll discuss it with the other draft admins.

I think you should do something that Divides Rep Points by Number of posts.

Anyone can say dumb stuff for years, not anyone can say quality things in a limited amount of time though.

If yall decide to do seniority or number of posts though that is 100% fair too and I'd be fine with it.

thetexanator
01-21-2014, 03:47 PM
i want to be in the draft. i want to draft for the texans, so put me down for the texans picks.

kiwitexansfan
01-21-2014, 04:05 PM
i want to be in the draft. i want to draft for the texans, so put me down for the texans picks.

If you look up the page at one of dutchrudder's posts you will see a google doc to complete to express your interest in drafting for a team.

infantrycak
01-21-2014, 04:11 PM
I think you should do something that Divides Rep Points by Number of posts.

Anyone can say dumb stuff for years, not anyone can say quality things in a limited amount of time though.

That's not actually how it works, but that is a discussion for a different time and forum.

steelbtexan
01-21-2014, 04:16 PM
Didn't bah007 run the Texans draft last year and he picked Keenan Allen 1st round and everyone hated it? Oops...

Corrosion picked for the Texans.

He did a better job than Rick/Gary/Wade did.

The Pencil Neck
01-21-2014, 04:19 PM
How do yall decide who gets what teams?

I've got a random generator where I take the list of people who want to participate feed that in and it randomly assigns teams to people.

Ndevine7
01-21-2014, 04:42 PM
Ill do it but would prefer to be in charge of only one team.

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 04:45 PM
I think you should do something that Divides Rep Points by Number of posts.

Anyone can say dumb stuff for years, not anyone can say quality things in a limited amount of time though.

If yall decide to do seniority or number of posts though that is 100% fair too and I'd be fine with it.

Guess I'll have to start neg repping the noobs then.... :D

Nah, we'll figure something out. I'd like to give people their first choice teams if possible, especially if no one else picks that team. I mean, why bother with complete randomness when someone really wants a specific team nobody else cares about? It's just better to dole it out based on interest if possible.

The Texans will of course have a lot of folks interested, so that one will be random.

JCTexan
01-21-2014, 05:26 PM
Guess I'll have to start neg repping the noobs then.... :D

Nah, we'll figure something out. I'd like to give people their first choice teams if possible, especially if no one else picks that team. I mean, why bother with complete randomness when someone really wants a specific team nobody else cares about? It's just better to dole it out based on interest if possible.

The Texans will of course have a lot of folks interested, so that one will be random.

Good idea, but you might want to only add names to the list that actually have the Texans listed in the spreadsheet. Some might not want the scrutiny that comes with the pick.

steelbtexan
01-21-2014, 05:30 PM
Good idea, but you might want to only add names to the list that actually have the Texans listed in the spreadsheet. Some might not want the scrutiny that comes with the pick.

I gave you my list,

You can add me to the Texans in the random drawing.

Dutchrudder
01-21-2014, 05:40 PM
Good idea, but you might want to only add names to the list that actually have the Texans listed in the spreadsheet. Some might not want the scrutiny that comes with the pick.

Yeah, that's the idea. If you want to pick the Texans, make it one of your 3 choices. If you don't get the Texans, then I'll look at second and third choices.

On the first pass, I'll see what teams were rated #1 alone by people. Do a random draw for anyone else who listed the team, and move on to the next #1 choice. The idea would be to try and fill teams based on interest first, and then go with the 2nd and 3rd options.

I'm thinking there needs to be a weight system. #1 choice gets 5 entries into the random drawing for X team, #2 get 3 entries, #3 gets 1. That way if someone really wants a team in particular, they can put more points towards getting that team. I think it's a bit more fair to do it this way, and hopefully people will be more happy with the results.

The Pencil Neck
01-21-2014, 05:49 PM
I took last season off because I was swamped with projects.

I should be cool to do it this year.

steelbtexan
01-21-2014, 08:23 PM
Yeah, that's the idea. If you want to pick the Texans, make it one of your 3 choices. If you don't get the Texans, then I'll look at second and third choices.

On the first pass, I'll see what teams were rated #1 alone by people. Do a random draw for anyone else who listed the team, and move on to the next #1 choice. The idea would be to try and fill teams based on interest first, and then go with the 2nd and 3rd options.

I'm thinking there needs to be a weight system. #1 choice gets 5 entries into the random drawing for X team, #2 get 3 entries, #3 gets 1. That way if someone really wants a team in particular, they can put more points towards getting that team. I think it's a bit more fair to do it this way, and hopefully people will be more happy with the results.

Awesome

Man, you put a lot of thought into this.

bah007
01-21-2014, 08:59 PM
Didn't bah007 run the Texans draft last year and he picked Keenan Allen 1st round and everyone hated it? Oops...

Corrosion picked for the Texans.

He did a better job than Rick/Gary/Wade did.

Correct. I sat out last year because I was too busy with work and couldn't put in the time. I'm good to go this year.

I picked for the Texans the year before and got blasted for taking Reuben Randle when everyone wanted Stephen Hill.

Blake
01-22-2014, 07:04 AM
Correct. I sat out last year because I was too busy with work and couldn't put in the time. I'm good to go this year.

I picked for the Texans the year before and got blasted for taking Reuben Randle when everyone wanted Stephen Hill.

Haha I remember that. Im still embarrassed about taking Kerrigan for the Jags @16 and letting you take Watt for the Pats @ 17 in 2011.

Blake
01-22-2014, 07:42 AM
Got my teams listed in the google doc. Thanks Dutch.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AscQRwKjB5B9dEtMeHkzSHRpZ3NKUURPTTRMaEc5S Gc&usp=sharing

thetexanator
01-22-2014, 08:24 AM
i dont have a google account. but if someone can put me down, heres mine.

the texanator 1.texans 2.cleveland3.cowboys and then whoever else you need me to do.

steelbtexan
01-22-2014, 10:17 AM
Correct. I sat out last year because I was too busy with work and couldn't put in the time. I'm good to go this year.

I picked for the Texans the year before and got blasted for taking Reuben Randle when everyone wanted Stephen Hill.

Glad to have you back.

NCTexan
01-22-2014, 12:05 PM
i dont have a google account. but if someone can put me down, heres mine.

the texanator 1.texans 2.cleveland3.cowboys and then whoever else you need me to do.

Someone already got you, just so you know!

bah007
01-22-2014, 12:39 PM
Haha I remember that. Im still embarrassed about taking Kerrigan for the Jags @16 and letting you take Watt for the Pats @ 17 in 2011.

Haha yea I was the New England Texans that year. Took Watt at #17 and Brooks Reed at #33.

mussop
01-22-2014, 09:24 PM
I'll take the packers and rams if I qualify.

steelbtexan
01-22-2014, 09:39 PM
I'll take the packers and rams if I qualify.

I entered your teams into the spreadsheet.

beerlover
01-23-2014, 12:39 AM
Eagles- Raiders- Bills :wesmantexanfan:

htownfan32
01-23-2014, 02:31 AM
This is gonna be fun, just like last year's.

I think I was Baltimore, but I can't quite recall. Hmm.

Marshall
01-23-2014, 03:09 AM
Haha yea I was the New England Texans that year. Took Watt at #17 and Brooks Reed at #33.

And this year we are the Houston Patriots... Who'd have thunk?

Blake
01-23-2014, 08:07 AM
If we're really doing this I'd like Seattle. They always end up drafting the guys I like the most anyway.

They are actually really fun to draft for. I did them last year as well since the didnt have a 1st. Got Zach Ertz, David Bahktiari , Mike Glennon, Trevardo Williams, Denard Robinson, Arby Jones, Zac Stacy. I think Jones and Stacy were group picks.


So when should we cap this? When we hit 32 participants? Looks like we have 16 so far. At some point we should just go ahead and assign the teams, then let people pick the leftovers. Or double up if needed.

Texian
01-23-2014, 08:19 AM
If needed, put me where you need me. (Atlanta)

TexansFTW
01-23-2014, 08:40 AM
If needed, put me where you need me. (Atlanta)

Pick 3. They will dish out the teams appropriately.

Someone already has Atlanta and you may not get them.

The Pencil Neck
01-23-2014, 02:29 PM
I'd be good with anyone who's left over.

If I have to pick three, it would be:
1. Jaguars
2. Titans
3. Colts

That way, I can take a harder look at our divisional competitors.

coon
01-23-2014, 08:13 PM
Last year was my first time to participate, I would gladly take the Saints if I meet the criteria.

mussop
01-24-2014, 12:00 AM
Pick 3. They will dish out the teams appropriately.

Someone already has Atlanta and you may not get them.

Were picking three now? If so give me whoever is left. I have the packers and rams.

TexansFTW
01-24-2014, 07:51 AM
So I've never done this here before.

Is everyone allowed to be really rude after each pick if they disagree or is that frowned upon?

bah007
01-24-2014, 08:01 AM
So I've never done this here before.

Is everyone allowed to be really rude after each pick if they disagree or is that frowned upon?

I would only say to be easier on whoever picks for the Texans than you are on everyone else. That's a tough spot to be in and it's hard to reply to every single person with a criticism. No matter who they pick half the people on the board will be upset with it.

rmartin65
01-24-2014, 08:35 AM
So I've never done this here before.

Is everyone allowed to be really rude after each pick if they disagree or is that frowned upon?

Why would you feel the need to be "really rude"?

Disagreement is fine, but don't be an ass.

NCTexan
01-24-2014, 08:35 AM
I would only say to be easier on whoever picks for the Texans than you are on everyone else. That's a tough spot to be in and it's hard to reply to every single person with a criticism. No matter who they pick half the people on the board will be upset with it.

I do not envy the poster who picks for the Texans one bit.

bah007
01-24-2014, 08:41 AM
I do not envy the poster who picks for the Texans one bit.

I had a blast doing it a couple years back. But it can be a hassle.

If you're picking for any other team, you might have 1 or 2 people asking you about why you made a certain pick.

If you're picking for the Texans, you have no less than 10 people asking you to explain your thought process after every single pick. And no matter how you respond, it won't change their mind.

mussop
01-24-2014, 09:16 AM
I had a blast doing it a couple years back. But it can be a hassle.

If you're picking for any other team, you might have 1 or 2 people asking you about why you made a certain pick.

If you're picking for the Texans, you have no less than 10 people asking you to explain your thought process after every single pick. And no matter how you respond, it won't change their mind.

Give me the texans, I'll blow this board up!! :brando:

beerlover
01-24-2014, 09:17 AM
In early days I wanted to be the Texan GM now its more like, Hell No! For all the reasons bah007 mentioned plus more, compound that with a new coach who keeps his true intentions high & tight all one can do is take bpa in order of most immediate need with highest ceiling :butterfly:

TexansFTW
01-24-2014, 10:49 AM
Why would you feel the need to be "really rude"?

Disagreement is fine, but don't be an ass.

You gotta heckle if you don't like something. And many see heckling as 'really rude'.

That's what this board is anyway. I didn't make these rules, but after my like 4th post when people began aggressively attacking me for things I'd said I simply decided, "when in Rome..."

Honestly, it's kind of more fun like that anyway. When people get really riled up is when the best arguments go down. People get after it with me in one thread and then we form common opinions in another. This stuff shouldn't really bother anyone anyway in the grand scheme of life. Plus you can use this super funny gif if you get real into it:

:slapfight:

Blake
01-24-2014, 01:37 PM
Were picking three now? If so give me whoever is left. I have the packers and rams.

No. You select up to 3 possible teams. Then if we can we will give you one of them.

Dutchrudder
01-24-2014, 05:21 PM
Quick update on team selections:

If you want to participate in the draft, please go to the spreadsheet and fill out your name and 1-3 teams you would like to be in the draft. You don't have to pick 3, but you aren't any more likely to get your #1 selection if you don't pick others. However, the higher you rank a team, the more likely you are to get that team! So please rank them 1-3 as shown in the column headers!
Link to Draft Signup Sheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AscQRwKjB5B9dEtMeHkzSHRpZ3NKUURPTTRMaEc5S Gc#gid=15)

I added two columns, so even if you are already on there, please fill out Yes or No if you are "Open to drafting other teams" than the 1-3 you listed OR if you are "Open to drafting for multiple teams." Those of you who mark yourselves down as a "Yes" on either of these may get first dibs on the remaining teams without GMs.

So far we have 19 people signed up, so we may need folks to double up on some teams. For your reference, here are the teams that no one has put in their top 2 and are likely easy to get if you signup:

Baltimore Ravens
Buffalo Bills
Cincinnati Bengals
Indianapolis Colts
Kansas City Chiefs
New York Giants
Pittsburgh Steelers
San Diego Chargers
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Washington Redskins

Just an FYI, those of you who signed up for only 1 team, you will not be guaranteed that team. I'll give it another few days, and then I can start doling out the teams.

Marshall
01-24-2014, 05:26 PM
So I've never done this here before.

Is everyone allowed to be really rude after each pick if they disagree or is that frowned upon?

That is the modus operendi of this board. But don't let that stop you. I for one will be glad to poke holes in someone else's hard work. Consider it critique rather than criticism. Same root, but different connotations.

Texian
01-25-2014, 11:21 AM
I would only say to be easier on whoever picks for the Texans than you are on everyone else. That's a tough spot to be in and it's hard to reply to every single person with a criticism. No matter who they pick half the people on the board will be upset with it.

I would say there is a 95% chance in this Texans mock it will be Teddy (unless he measures 6'1", 190 lbs w/ 8" hands), a 4% it will be Jadevon and 1% chance it will be other.

My three would be Atlanta, Colts, Jags and Titans. If those 3 don't work I'll take these two, San Fran, Washington, Seattle.

The Pencil Neck
01-25-2014, 11:46 AM
I would say there is a 95% chance in this Texans mock it will be Teddy (unless he measures 6'1", 190 lbs w/ 8" hands), a 4% it will be Jadevon and 1% chance it will be other.

My three would be Atlanta, Colts, Jags and Titans. If those 3 don't work I'll take these two, San Fran, Washington, Seattle.

Are you counting from zero?

MistaRed
01-26-2014, 11:45 AM
If I remember correctly I participated in this 2 years ago as the Chicago Bears. I want back in!

drs23
01-27-2014, 11:53 AM
If I remember correctly I participated in this 2 years ago as the Chicago Bears. I want back in!

Nah, I GM'd for the Bears year before last and kinda got skewered for "reaching" for Stephan Wisniewski in the first who ended up going to the Raiders in the second and has done pretty well for himself.

Had the stinkin' Jets last year.

Dutchrudder
01-27-2014, 12:37 PM
I would say there is a 95% chance in this Texans mock it will be Teddy (unless he measures 6'1", 190 lbs w/ 8" hands), a 4% it will be Jadevon and 1% chance it will be other.

My three would be Atlanta, Colts, Jags and Titans. If those 3 don't work I'll take these two, San Fran, Washington, Seattle.

Lol... OK well I put you down for the Falcons, colts and Jags in that order, and said Yes to being open to other teams. Feel free to edit that if you want to. :shades:


So far we have 21 signups and 6 confirmed who are open to drafting for multiple teams. We are closing the gap on 32 total teams claimed by the numbers alone, but aren't quite there. If we get another 5 people, we can theoretically cover all the teams, but it may be best to go ahead and start assigning them now and let the leftovers get claimed in the future.

Dutchrudder
01-27-2014, 01:10 PM
I color coded the teams so they are easier to spot to some degree. For anyone else who wants to sign up or change their order of teams, the teams on the right that don't have a color don't have anyone claiming them yet.

Current signup sheet status:

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/themishkin/Sports/DraftSheet.jpg~original

The Pencil Neck
01-27-2014, 01:11 PM
I'm open to multiple.

Blake
01-27-2014, 01:18 PM
but it may be best to go ahead and start assigning them now and let the leftovers get claimed in the future.

Go ahead and do it. If people havent seen this thread yet then they need to get on here more often. haha

Dutchrudder
01-27-2014, 01:22 PM
I'm open to multiple.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Thats-What-She-Said-Michael-Scott-Last-Episode.gif

Go ahead and do it. If people havent seen this thread yet then they need to get on here more often. haha

Ok, I can do that. I'll start with the Houston Texans, and then allow the folks who don't get that team to add another team afterwards.

I'll be doing a weighted random draw. Teams put #1 get 5 entries, #2 gets 3, #3 gets 1. I'll be using a random number generator to draw a number, and whoever has that number wins! :)

Link to the generator: http://www.random.org/

Dutchrudder
01-27-2014, 01:43 PM
I did the Houston Texans pick, and I'm happy to announce that TexansFTW won the draw! The random number generated between 1-29 was lucky number 13, which was one of his 5 numbers.

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/themishkin/Sports/Drawing1.jpg~original

The complete list of numbers owned was:

1 bah007
2 bah007
3 bah007
4 TexansSeminole
5 TexansSeminole
6 TexansSeminole
7 TexansSeminole
8 TexansSeminole
9 JCTexan
10 JCTexan
11 JCTexan
12 TexansFTW
13 TexansFTW
14 TexansFTW
15 TexansFTW
16 TexansFTW
17 Blake
18 Blake
19 Blake
20 Blake
21 Blake
22 Thetexanator
23 Thetexanator
24 Thetexanator
25 Thetexanator
26 Thetexanator
27 Htownfan32
28 Htownfan32
29 Htownfan32


I don't know if I mentioned it before, but once someone wins a team through a drawing, they will not be in other drawings until everyone has a team. I'll go ahead and complete assigning other teams until I post the full list.

Blake
01-27-2014, 01:55 PM
TexansFTW, may God have mercy on his soul.

Dutchrudder
01-27-2014, 02:10 PM
So here are the teams and their GMs after I went through and assigned the teams. I started with anyone who had a 1st priority team that no one else put in their top 3. Teams like the Saints, Vikings, Seahawks and 49ers immediately went off the board. Then I went down the list and rolled for the GMs who wanted teams that were contested. It worked out to where only two people got their 3rd ranked team (Blake and Texanator), and one person didn't get any of their top 3 (TexanSeminole, sorry dude :().

I think TexanSeminole should get his pick of the remaining teams before we start giving out 2nd teams to folks. If for some reason the Eagles or Dolphins owner would like to gift Seminole their team, just let me know and we can work that into the process, and whoever does will get their pick of the remaining teams. I know Beerlover was interested in picking for 2 teams, so maybe he could give Seminole the Eagles and take his top 2 teams from the remainder. Just an idea, no obligation for him to do so if he happens to be a huge Eagles fan.

Team assignments:

TexansFTW - Houston Texans
Dutchrudder - Cleveland Browns
bah007 - Seattle Seahawks
WolverineFan - San Francisco 49ers
steelbtexan - Chicago Bears
ndevine7 - New York Jets
mussop - Green Bay Packers
kiwitexansfan - Arizona Cardinals
JCTexan - Atlanta Falcons
RT22 - St Louis Rams
Thetexanator - Dallas Cowboys
NCTexan - Minnesota Vikings
drs23 - Pittsburgh Steelers
Coon - New Orleans Saints
Htownfan32 - Miami Dolphins
beerlover - Philadelphia Eagles
MistaRed - Oakland Raiders
The Pencil Neck - Jacksonville Jaguars
Blake - Denver Broncos
Texian - Indianapolis Colts
TexansSeminole - :(

Leftovers:

Baltimore Ravens
Buffalo Bills
Carolina Panthers
Cincinnati Bengals
Detroit Lions
Kansas City Chiefs
New England Patriots
New York Giants
San Diego Chargers
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tennessee Titans
Washington Redskins


I hope everyone is happy with the results! If not, you can leave me your feedback in a scathing neg rep :P

Texan4Ever
01-27-2014, 02:17 PM
I'd like to join if y'all have room. Didn't realize this was starting back up again.

Dutchrudder
01-27-2014, 02:27 PM
I'd like to join if y'all have room. Didn't realize this was starting back up again.

Take your pick:

Baltimore Ravens
Buffalo Bills
Carolina Panthers
Cincinnati Bengals
Detroit Lions
Kansas City Chiefs
New England Patriots
New York Giants
San Diego Chargers
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tennessee Titans
Washington Redskins

Blake
01-27-2014, 02:30 PM
only two people got their 3rd ranked team (Blake and Texanator). I hope everyone is happy with the results! If not, you can leave me your feedback in a scathing neg rep :P

This is some bull!!! NEG REP! NEG REP!

TexansSeminole
01-27-2014, 02:33 PM
I'll take the Bucs, I need to learn more about them anyway.

Dutchrudder
01-27-2014, 02:40 PM
I'll take the Bucs, I need to learn more about them anyway.

Got it, thanks!

This means that we can start opening up other teams to secondary selections for folks who want two teams.

Blake, do you want a second team? Do you have a second team you prefer?

The Pencil Neck
01-27-2014, 02:47 PM
I'll take the Titans if no one else wants them.

htownfan32
01-27-2014, 02:53 PM
Can I take Detroit as my 2nd team?

Blake
01-27-2014, 02:58 PM
Blake, do you want a second team? Do you have a second team you prefer?

Ill take the Bills. They seem to still be open.

Dutchrudder
01-27-2014, 03:02 PM
Can I take Detroit as my 2nd team?

I updated the draft signup sheet to have GMs listed and have started assigning 2nd teams to folks. Anyone who had a team listed in their top 3 and was willing to draft for multiple teams got a chance to get the teams. The Lions were between you and Steelb, but he won the random draw. For these types of random draws, I'm giving everyone equal chance at getting the teams.

2nd teams for people:
bah007 - Carolina Panthers
WolverineFan - New England Patriots
Blake - Buffalo Bills
steelbtexan - Detroit Lions
NCTexan - Cincinnati Bengals
The Pencil Neck - Tennessee Titans


Remaining teams available are:

Baltimore Ravens
Kansas City Chiefs
New York Giants
San Diego Chargers
Washington Redskins

WolverineFan
01-27-2014, 04:29 PM
Good stuff Dutch! Thanks for doing the groundwork here!

htownfan32
01-27-2014, 04:53 PM
I updated the draft signup sheet to have GMs listed and have started assigning 2nd teams to folks. Anyone who had a team listed in their top 3 and was willing to draft for multiple teams got a chance to get the teams. The Lions were between you and Steelb, but he won the random draw. For these types of random draws, I'm giving everyone equal chance at getting the teams.

2nd teams for people:
bah007 - Carolina Panthers
WolverineFan - New England Patriots
Blake - Buffalo Bills
steelbtexan - Detroit Lions
NCTexan - Cincinnati Bengals
The Pencil Neck - Tennessee Titans


Remaining teams available are:

Baltimore Ravens
Kansas City Chiefs
New York Giants
San Diego Chargers
Washington Redskins

Got it. Thanks for all the work, Dutch!
I'll take the Ravens, if there's no one left who needs a team.

Dutchrudder
01-27-2014, 05:15 PM
Got it. Thanks for all the work, Dutch!
I'll take the Ravens, if there's no one left who needs a team.

SOLD!

Remaining teams without a GM:

Kansas City Chiefs
New York Giants
San Diego Chargers
Washington Redskins

Signup sheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AscQRwKjB5B9dEtMeHkzSHRpZ3NKUURPTTRMaEc5S Gc#gid=15

JCTexan
01-27-2014, 05:33 PM
SOLD!

Remaining teams without a GM:

Kansas City Chiefs
New York Giants
San Diego Chargers
Washington Redskins

Signup sheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AscQRwKjB5B9dEtMeHkzSHRpZ3NKUURPTTRMaEc5S Gc#gid=15

Since you're dishing out 2nd teams, I'll take the Chiefs as my 2nd.

Texan4Ever
01-27-2014, 05:34 PM
SOLD!

Remaining teams without a GM:

Kansas City Chiefs
New York Giants
San Diego Chargers
Washington Redskins

Signup sheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AscQRwKjB5B9dEtMeHkzSHRpZ3NKUURPTTRMaEc5S Gc#gid=15


I guess I'll take the Chargers?

kiwitexansfan
01-27-2014, 05:50 PM
Awesome work Dutch.

Cardinals are ON!

MistaRed
01-27-2014, 08:37 PM
Silver and black is in good hands with GM MistaRed

Dutchrudder
01-27-2014, 08:58 PM
Since you're dishing out 2nd teams, I'll take the Chiefs as my 2nd.

I guess I'll take the Chargers?

Got it.

Remaining teams are New York Giants and Washington Redskins. The NFC East needs someone to adopt these pets. Please won't you think of them?

kiwitexansfan
01-27-2014, 09:01 PM
Got it.

Remaining teams are New York Giants and Washington Redskins. The NFC East needs someone to adopt these pets. Please won't you think of them?

You've twisted my arm.

Let me have the District of Columbia Indigenous Americans.

Blake
01-28-2014, 08:48 AM
Who wants the last team available? NY Giants?

NYG 6 1.12, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12, 6.12

Texan4Ever
01-28-2014, 09:01 AM
Who wants the last team available? NY Giants?

NYG 6 1.12, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12, 6.12

I'll take em' if no one wants them.

steelbtexan
01-28-2014, 11:10 AM
Nah, I GM'd for the Bears year before last and kinda got skewered for "reaching" for Stephan Wisniewski in the first who ended up going to the Raiders in the second and has done pretty well for himself.

Had the stinkin' Jets last year.

Delete

Dutchrudder
01-28-2014, 11:22 AM
I'll take em' if no one wants them.

That works! I didn't want to have to euthanize them because we couldn't find an owner. It would have been tough to do considering the size of their d-line.

TexansFTW
01-28-2014, 02:41 PM
Sweet. I ran with the Bulls this weekend AND I got assigned to draft for the Texans.

Good stuff!

I've had my mock finished since the 8th, but have been tweeking it here and there.

I expect MAD grief from everyone, don't hold back. I love it.

I bet no one can guess who my fake Texans will LIKELY be drafting at 1.01

Dutchrudder
01-28-2014, 03:06 PM
Sweet. I ran with the Bulls this weekend AND I got assigned to draft for the Texans.

Good stuff!

I've had my mock finished since the 8th, but have been tweeking it here and there.

I expect MAD grief from everyone, don't hold back. I love it.

I bet no one can guess who my fake Texans will LIKELY be drafting at 1.01

I can't think of a more fitting way to train for being the Texans GM in the TT Mock Draft! +rep

mussop
01-28-2014, 07:30 PM
If need be i'll take any team left.

TexansSeminole
01-28-2014, 08:06 PM
Sweet. I ran with the Bulls this weekend AND I got assigned to draft for the Texans.

Good stuff!

I've had my mock finished since the 8th, but have been tweeking it here and there.

I expect MAD grief from everyone, don't hold back. I love it.

I bet no one can guess who my fake Texans will LIKELY be drafting at 1.01

I'm guessing Clowney.

htownfan32
01-28-2014, 08:11 PM
I'm guessing Clowney.

inb4 Derek Carr

JCTexan
01-28-2014, 08:40 PM
I'm guessing he goes with either Clowney or Bridgewater...

Texian
01-29-2014, 08:04 AM
Sweet. I ran with the Bulls this weekend AND I got assigned to draft for the Texans.

Good stuff!

I've had my mock finished since the 8th, but have been tweeking it here and there.

I expect MAD grief from everyone, don't hold back. I love it.

I bet no one can guess who my fake Texans will LIKELY be drafting at 1.01

The only way I am going to be shocked is if you don't take Teddy.

steelbtexan
01-29-2014, 08:40 AM
Sweet. I ran with the Bulls this weekend AND I got assigned to draft for the Texans.

Good stuff!

I've had my mock finished since the 8th, but have been tweeking it here and there.

I expect MAD grief from everyone, don't hold back. I love it.

I bet no one can guess who my fake Texans will LIKELY be drafting at 1.01

Go ahead and doom this franchise to another decade of mediocrity. It will probably be an improvement over the last decade of mediocrity. LOL

TexansFTW
01-29-2014, 09:17 AM
Go ahead and doom this franchise to another decade of mediocrity. It will probably be an improvement over the last decade of mediocrity. LOL

One thing I can assure you of, is that we will never be mediocre with me at the helm.

The hardest place to get out of in sports is the middle.

We will be really bad with the option of high draft picks and quick turnaround next year or we will be really good and still playing football in January.

I will make sure this franchise does the latter.

Blake
02-25-2014, 07:15 AM
Now that the combine has been completed, when do we want to start this thing? Also, who is going to help me admin this beast of a thing?

Dutchrudder
02-25-2014, 10:28 AM
Now that the combine has been completed, when do we want to start this thing? Also, who is going to help me admin this beast of a thing?

Any idea when Compensatory picks will be announced? Last year it was March 18th, which was a month after the combine.

Blake
02-25-2014, 11:00 AM
Any idea when Compensatory picks will be announced? Last year it was March 18th, which was a month after the combine.

Who knows. I can wait until comp picks are announced if everyone else can.

NCTexan
02-25-2014, 11:22 AM
Who knows. I can wait until comp picks are announced if everyone else can.

I would prefer this but could go either way.

steelbtexan
02-25-2014, 11:36 AM
Count me in for waiting for the comp picks. Also FA will have played out by then somewhat.

We will have over a month to finish the draft even if we held off until April 1st. Not that I'm suggesting this.

TexansSeminole
02-25-2014, 11:39 AM
I'd prefer to wait for the comp picks as well.

Dutchrudder
02-25-2014, 12:25 PM
Count me in for waiting for the comp picks. Also FA will have played out by then somewhat.

We will have over a month to finish the draft even if we held off until April 1st. Not that I'm suggesting this.

Oh yeah, forgot about free agency too, duh... That's why we started in late March last year. After the first week of free agency, most of the big names will have made their moves, and it will make it a lot easier on folks to assess their needs (filled needs and new ones!). I recall two years ago when Mario Williams announced he was going to Buffalo and the Bills GM was in a bind due to his previous picks.

kiwitexansfan
02-25-2014, 02:35 PM
After comp picks and FA is the best idea.

Will be hard to wait though, SOOO looking forward to getting into this.

WolverineFan
02-25-2014, 03:32 PM
Definitely wait until comp picks are announced. That way the first part of FA will have also played out.

Nothing worse than being in the middle of the mock and your team signs a FA WR when you drafted a WR in the 1st round.

htownfan32
02-25-2014, 04:37 PM
I'm all for after comp picks and FA too.

TexansFTW
02-25-2014, 05:08 PM
Oh OK, I see now. Well I would suggest waiting until a week after free agency starts. Free Agency begins Tuesday March 11, 2014. The Monday after that is March 17th, which could work, or that Tuesday if you want to give it a full week.

I believe last year we started a week after free agency, and I think that helped a lot of folks. You don't want to have your draft ruined because your team picks up a big time free agent at a position of need.

I thought this was the date we already chose? March 17th.

Or the day after, Tuesday, March 18th.

steelbtexan
02-25-2014, 05:17 PM
I thought this was the date we already chose? March 17th.

Or the day after, Tuesday, March 18th.

Cant wait for that TB pick? LOL

I'm jealous

Texan4Ever
02-25-2014, 08:12 PM
I hate to do this to you guys but I have two teams (Giants and Chargers) and if someone wants to take on an extra team I can part with either of them. Just let me know, thanks.

mussop
02-25-2014, 10:33 PM
I hate to do this to you guys but I have two teams (Giants and Chargers) and if someone wants to take on an extra team I can part with either of them. Just let me know, thanks.

I would love to have the giants.

TexansFTW
02-26-2014, 08:37 AM
Cant wait for that TB pick? LOL

I'm jealous

lol, you never know what I plan on doing.

I'm actually starting to lean Clowney after that 40 time.

TexansFTW
02-26-2014, 08:57 AM
Would you please edit that Google Doc to show who has what teams on the 'draft secure' tab?

In the first tab all of the rows that show who has what are hidden and I can't figure out how to unhide them.

Thanks.

Dutchrudder
02-26-2014, 02:09 PM
I hate to do this to you guys but I have two teams (Giants and Chargers) and if someone wants to take on an extra team I can part with either of them. Just let me know, thanks.

I would love to have the giants.

If you guys are both OK with it, Mussop can have the Giants. Just let me know and I'll amend the spreadsheet.


Would you please edit that Google Doc to show who has what teams on the 'draft secure' tab?

In the first tab all of the rows that show who has what are hidden and I can't figure out how to unhide them.

Thanks.

Yeah, someone filtered on their name and it didn't show anyone else. It has been cleared. The icon at the top right of the ribbon that looks like the top-half of an hourglass is the filter button. Clicking it will turn off/on filters, and clicking it twice will clear/remove all filters, thus showing all the data.

Dutchrudder
02-26-2014, 03:10 PM
The Draft Order has been updated. All teams and GMs are added to it as well. When compensatory picks are announced, and if the contingency trade results are announced, I'll update it again.

I'm working on setting up the User sheets and getting those aligned with the main sheet. I added those last year so that multiple people could view the data without altering the secured sheet that I use for maintaining the data. Have a look if you want:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AscQRwKjB5B9dEtMeHkzSHRpZ3NKUURPTTRMaEc5S Gc&usp=drive_web#gid=2

The Pencil Neck
02-26-2014, 05:19 PM
Are we allowing trades in this one?

Dutchrudder
02-26-2014, 05:23 PM
Are we allowing trades in this one?

No, I mean the trades where the compensation hasn't been announced yet. There are a few still outstanding that haven't been announced yet.

steelbtexan
02-27-2014, 04:22 PM
The mock seems to be easier to do without trades. It takes away preposterous trade guys ability to talk people into things that don't makes sense. With that said if there are trades allowed the Lions #10 pick is open for business. LOL

What's the start date?

The Pencil Neck
02-27-2014, 04:28 PM
Yeah. Trades make things difficult and people can try to pull off some crazy and unrealistic things.

I was just asking because someone proposed a trade with me. I was going to take it but I didn't think we were allowed to make trades.

Dutchrudder
02-27-2014, 04:54 PM
Yeah. Trades make things difficult and people can try to pull off some crazy and unrealistic things.

I was just asking because someone proposed a trade with me. I was going to take it but I didn't think we were allowed to make trades.

We never do trades because it's too much to manage. Also, there are still a few picks outstanding due to conditional trades, so some of the draft order may change over the next few weeks.

TexansFTW
02-27-2014, 05:40 PM
We never do trades because it's too much to manage. Also, there are still a few picks outstanding due to conditional trades, so some of the draft order may change over the next few weeks.

That and free agency. Cap room is increasing ~$10 mill this year. That's a really big deal. That's like Brian Orakpo big deal.

It really sucks they increase the cap number in a year where we are coming off a 2-14 season. We look a hell of a lot worse than we really are to some free agents that don't want to go into a dumpster fire.

Texan4Ever
02-27-2014, 08:14 PM
If you guys are both OK with it, Mussop can have the Giants. Just let me know and I'll amend the spreadsheet.




Yeah, someone filtered on their name and it didn't show anyone else. It has been cleared. The icon at the top right of the ribbon that looks like the top-half of an hourglass is the filter button. Clicking it will turn off/on filters, and clicking it twice will clear/remove all filters, thus showing all the data.

I would love to have the giants.


I apologize for being late as hell. Mussop please take the G-men...Dutch I'm still keeping the Chargers.

Dutchrudder
02-28-2014, 10:06 AM
^ Got it.

So just to remind everyone, we settled on a start date of Monday March 17, 2014. That will be a week after free agency opens, and I'm hoping that compensatory picks will be announced. If the compensatory picks are not announced, we will do the draft up to the end of the 3rd round and then decide to wait or keep going. If we don't have the picks by then, we may need to borrow someone's projections and work them into the draft as needed. Those comp picks will help some teams, so I'd like to have them.

TexansFTW
03-10-2014, 08:43 AM
^ Got it.

So just to remind everyone, we settled on a start date of Monday March 17, 2014. That will be a week after free agency opens, and I'm hoping that compensatory picks will be announced. If the compensatory picks are not announced, we will do the draft up to the end of the 3rd round and then decide to wait or keep going. If we don't have the picks by then, we may need to borrow someone's projections and work them into the draft as needed. Those comp picks will help some teams, so I'd like to have them.

If we get to the end of 3 and comp picks aren't announced I vote to hit the pause button until they're announced. It completely changes the direction and way one can think. (I speak for myself obviously).

See yall next Monday.

TexansSeminole
03-10-2014, 03:54 PM
Excited for it. I will be researching the Bucs for the next week.:thinking:

If only I had the opportunity to change their uniforms.

tomjn80
03-10-2014, 04:04 PM
This is NOT a sign up for the mock draft. Just a thread to start discussing when we want to do it, and to give everyone a heads up well in advance so when the time comes to sign up they aren't left out because they didnt see the signup.

The NFL Combine is February 22-25 and the NFL Draft is May 8th. I suggest waiting until after the combine to do our draft. I think it goes without saying, but if you choose to participate you should know more than just round 1 prospects, and be available everyday to update your "big board" or make a selection. If we want to take the slow, let everyone have a day to pick approach, then we would need to start in February before the combine.

What are everyone's thoughts/concerns?

I would like to be apart of this mock draft, if there is any room left. I have done this before on some other Houston Texans Message Boards. I would gladly participate. Let me know if there are any teams left. Thanks!

Blake
03-14-2014, 08:38 AM
This thread will continue on as the selection thread. Make your pick and discuss in here.

WolverineFan
03-14-2014, 11:18 AM
http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/im-so-giddy-i-cant-contain-myself.gif

Honoring Earl 34
03-14-2014, 11:41 AM
http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/im-so-giddy-i-cant-contain-myself.gif

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101102142824/muppet/images/2/24/Waldorf_and_Statler_2.JPG

WolverineFan
03-14-2014, 11:45 AM
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101102142824/muppet/images/2/24/Waldorf_and_Statler_2.JPG

http://couchsideshow.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/cutler-mouth2-10-28-12-3.gif?w=532

Honoring Earl 34
03-14-2014, 12:39 PM
http://couchsideshow.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/cutler-mouth2-10-28-12-3.gif?w=532

http://www.fantasyfootballfools.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Giants-Fan-Girl-Shake-NFL-Draft-2013.gif

TexansFTW
03-14-2014, 01:24 PM
lol, what is going on here? I can't interpret these GIFs like you pros I guess.

Anyways, this thing is still going down Monday right? What time Monday do you want me to throw it down?

Blake
03-14-2014, 01:30 PM
Monday AM. Sometime after 7am CST.

bah007
03-14-2014, 02:28 PM
Monday AM. Sometime after 7am CST.

Is there any way we can post the selection rules where everyone can easily find them?

It gets irritating when people miss their pick and throw the whole thing off.

Blake
03-14-2014, 03:17 PM
Is there any way we can post the selection rules where everyone can easily find them?

It gets irritating when people miss their pick and throw the whole thing off.

I, and anyone else doing the draft could link people to the "rules" post that we are about to make. Which brings up the fact that we havent agreed on rules yet. I dug this up from the 2012 mock draft.


RULES:
NO TRADES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Start: Monday, March 17th, 07:00am.
Teams: All Assigned.
Rounds: This is a 7 round mock.
CLOCK RULES:
Your clock time starts when the team in front of you makes a pick. Unless it was made while the clock is not running. In that case it will start at 7AM of the following weekday morning. You may pick at nights or on weekends if your team is on the clock.

Clock Only runs from 7AM-9PM

Round (1): 4 hours per pick.
Rounds (2-7): 4 hours per pick.
Night: Clock stops running at 9PM. Picks can still be made.
Morning: Clock starts running at 7AM.
Weekends: Clock stops. Picks can still be made.

Unavailable, proxy or MIA:
1.) If you miss a single pick, the rest of your teams draft will be a group pick.
2.) If you know you will be gone for awhile and might miss your pick, PM your top X players to myself or another member of this mock. They will make a proxy pick for you. JUST FREAKING DO IT!

kiwitexansfan
03-14-2014, 03:48 PM
Just here to say I will have to rely on the group to proxy a bit.

The clock runs from about 1am to 3pm New Zealand time.

The Pencil Neck
03-14-2014, 04:42 PM
Just here to say I will have to rely on the group to proxy a bit.

The clock runs from about 1am to 3pm New Zealand time.

In the past if your pick was up, you could make it even if it was at 1am Texas Time.

If possible when you see you're going to have a pick coming up when you're not going to be on-line, shoot me (or one of the people helping out with the draft) a list of who you're targeting in the order of your preference, and we'll make that pick for you when your pick comes up.

I'll frequently put together a list of 10 guys I'll be targeting and when my pick is approaching and I know I'm going to be in a meeting or something, I'll send my list to whoever's running the show or whoever's participating so they can proxy-pick for me.

NCTexan
03-14-2014, 04:59 PM
If all other GMs want to go ahead and just send me their big boards now I'll make sure to take realllyyy good care of them.

:kitten:

beerlover
03-14-2014, 05:12 PM
if all other gms want to go ahead and just send me their big boards now i'll make sure to take realllyyy good care of them.

:kitten:

pod :)

drs23
03-14-2014, 05:21 PM
If all other GMs want to go ahead and just send me their big boards now I'll make sure to take realllyyy good care of them.

:kitten:

Consider it on the way! :bat:

kiwitexansfan
03-14-2014, 11:21 PM
If all other GMs want to go ahead and just send me their big boards now I'll make sure to take realllyyy good care of them.

:kitten:

Still working on mine....

http://www.sitemason.com/files/bJI4uY/cottonexch2007.JPG

TexansFTW
03-15-2014, 03:29 AM
Once 700 AM rolls around I am generally in a meeting.

If yall wanna just expedite this, I'm sure about 90% of yall know who I am going to pick and that hasn't changed.

WolverineFan
03-15-2014, 11:14 AM
Once 700 AM rolls around I am generally in a meeting.

If yall wanna just expedite this, I'm sure about 90% of yall know who I am going to pick and that hasn't changed.

I'd be okay with you posting it before 7AM or even on Sunday night. Whatever time is convenient for you would be just fine with me.

beerlover
03-15-2014, 11:15 AM
I'd be okay with you posting it before 7AM or even on Sunday night. Whatever time is convenient for you would be just fine with me.

second that :)

Dutchrudder
03-15-2014, 01:55 PM
Once 700 AM rolls around I am generally in a meeting.

If yall wanna just expedite this, I'm sure about 90% of yall know who I am going to pick and that hasn't changed.

Yes, please take Bortles please.

TexansFTW
03-15-2014, 02:31 PM
With the first pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Houston Texans select... Shlake Shortles. Siiikkeee. They take my man Teddy Bridgewater. Look at the 100 pages in the TB thread if you want an explanation on this one.

Honoring Earl 34
03-15-2014, 02:43 PM
With the first pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Houston Texans select... Shlake Shortles. Siiikkeee. They take my man Teddy Bridgewater. Look at the 100 pages in the TB thread if you want an explanation on this one.

It's good to see Texian didn't take you hostage and make the pick .

kiwitexansfan
03-15-2014, 08:15 PM
Not sure teddy has Texans character....

http://geekoutlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/ted-Hookers.jpg

Honoring Earl 34
03-16-2014, 09:26 AM
Not sure teddy has Texans character....

http://geekoutlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/ted-Hookers.jpg

Teddy has great big cotton balls .

bah007
03-16-2014, 09:32 AM
The necessary pick, IMO.

Glad this thing is off to a good start.

TexansFTW
03-16-2014, 10:33 AM
More reasoning to my selection... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwXqubJpNlg

infantrycak
03-16-2014, 11:25 AM
More reasoning to my selection... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwXqubJpNlg

Having gone back and watched more videos specifically on his arm, he looks to me like a QB who is choosing his loft for the situation rather than a QB with an "acceptable" arm who is lofting the ball to make the distance.

Dutchrudder
03-16-2014, 11:27 AM
With the first pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Houston Texans select... Shlake Shortles. Siiikkeee. They take my man Teddy Bridgewater. Look at the 100 pages in the TB thread if you want an explanation on this one.

Good pick, he was #1 on my board.

I forgot to mention prior to the draft starting, I would really appreciate it if people can format their picks like this:

Name - POS - School - Conference (abbreviated)

Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville - AAC


It allows me to copy/paste it into the draft spreadsheet easily, so we can get some stats on our picks and see who has been picked.

Spreadsheet is HERE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AscQRwKjB5B9dEtMeHkzSHRpZ3NKUURPTTRMaEc5S Gc&usp=drive_web#gid=9)

The Pencil Neck
03-16-2014, 12:48 PM
So.

Are the Rams on the Clock?

TexansSeminole
03-16-2014, 01:31 PM
So.

Are the Rams on the Clock?

Don't think clock starts till tomorrow morning but yeah.

kiwitexansfan
03-16-2014, 01:31 PM
So.

Are the Rams on the Clock?

I would say so.

There clock won't start till 7am on Monday morning.

TexansFTW
03-16-2014, 02:07 PM
Having gone back and watched more videos specifically on his arm, he looks to me like a QB who is choosing his loft for the situation rather than a QB with an "acceptable" arm who is lofting the ball to make the distance.

I agree.

I think it's very lame that these top guys choose to sit out of the combine because they have more to lose than gain (I get it though, it's a business, blah blah). With that said I think he could have shown some people his arm is just fine.

I believe his completion % would have been substantially worse if he could ONLY lob balls up because of this inferior or sketch arm some claim. It's pretty clear (IMO) he picks and chooses when and how to make his throws.

kiwitexansfan
03-16-2014, 03:22 PM
I think Bridgewater does loft his passes intentionally. I think he'll have to watch this in the pros because the DBs will be able to break on those balls better and it could lead to interceptions or passes being broken up at the least.

RT22
03-16-2014, 03:59 PM
With the 2nd pick of the draft the Rams select

Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn -SEC

kiwitexansfan
03-16-2014, 04:00 PM
As Redskins GM I resent the previous administrations callous disregard for its future 1st rounders.

Has Griffin be worth the cost?

Losing out on 1:2 suggests it hasn't worked out.

kiwitexansfan
03-16-2014, 04:04 PM
With the 2nd pick of the draft the Rams select

Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn -SEC

Solid selection. If everyone is healthy that could be a good line giving Bradford every chance to show if he is the man there.

RT22
03-16-2014, 04:15 PM
This would have been an ideal spot to trade down if someone was interested in Clowney or Manzel.

The Pencil Neck
03-16-2014, 04:18 PM
With the 3rd pick in the Draft, the Jacksonville Jaggywires select:

http://www.rantsports.com/clubhouse/files/2013/08/Jadeveon-Clowney.jpg

Jadeveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina - SEC

Given the Jag's recent signings on the DL, this was tough. I almost went Bortles here but I couldn't pass up this athleticism. Especially with how anemic the Jag's pass rush was last year.

TexansFTW
03-16-2014, 04:43 PM
Good picks #2 and #3.

This is how I foresaw my mock draft going through 3 picks. This is where it gets saucy though.

kiwitexansfan
03-16-2014, 04:47 PM
Clowney vs. Bridgewater will be an interesting storyline for a while.

beerlover
03-16-2014, 05:09 PM
all three picks solid, great job, could we actually finish all 7 rounds before the draft begins this year :jogger:

kiwitexansfan
03-16-2014, 05:33 PM
all three picks solid, great job, could we actually finish all 7 rounds before the draft begins this year :jogger:

I hope so the Cardinals need to take Dustin Vaughan in the 7th.

Dutchrudder
03-16-2014, 07:47 PM
With the 4th pick in the 2014 Texanstalk Mock Draft Extravagaza, the Cleveland Browns select...

Blake Bortles - QB - UCF - AAC

http://images.hngn.com/data/images/full/21420/blake-bortles.jpg


After years of searching for a franchise QB, and narrowly missing out on trading for RG3 last year, the Browns take a chance on Mr. Bortles. Despite having recently hired defensive minded Bills DC Mike Pettine as HC, the Browns will spend their first pick helping out the offensive side of the ball. Texans fans will of course be familiar the Browns new OC Kyle Shanahan, and I believe Bortles will fit his system perfectly. I think Bortles will thrive in this offense, assuming the Browns can get a couple of capable RBs to keep the defenses honest. Signing Ben Tate was the first piece, but later in the draft they will look to add a complementary RB and a couple more pieces on offense to help Blake out.


Highlight reel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayD9_uCz4K0

steelbtexan
03-16-2014, 07:50 PM
Draft is falling exactly how I saw it so far.

kiwitexansfan
03-16-2014, 07:50 PM
Do you project him as day one starter or do you give the re-signed Hoyer the start while Bortles develops?

Dutchrudder
03-16-2014, 07:53 PM
Do you project him as day one starter or do you give the re-signed Hoyer the start while Bortles develops?

Eh, dunno yet, depends on how the draft falls, and if I feel he will be adequately protected. I'd rather give Hoyer a few starts before sending Bortles out there, but I just don't see any way Hoyer beats out Bortles in camp.

steelbtexan
03-16-2014, 07:59 PM
Eh, dunno yet, depends on how the draft falls, and if I feel he will be adequately protected. I'd rather give Hoyer a few starts before sending Bortles out there, but I just don't see any way Hoyer beats out Bortles in camp.

Hoyer was pretty good last yr. I could actually see Hoyer starting most of the yr. Gordon will make most QB's look good. Who you going to add opposite of Gordon? LOL

Dutchrudder
03-16-2014, 08:31 PM
Hoyer was pretty good last yr. I could actually see Hoyer starting most of the yr. Gordon will make most QB's look good. Who you going to add opposite of Gordon? LOL

Andrew Hawkins, duh. 4 years 12 million means he should be doing something. Probably going to be a slot receiver, but whatever.

steelbtexan
03-16-2014, 08:47 PM
Andrew Hawkins, duh. 4 years 12 million means he should be doing something. Probably going to be a slot receiver, but whatever.

I thought the Bengals were going to match Hawkins.

Dutchrudder
03-16-2014, 10:28 PM
I thought the Bengals were going to match Hawkins.

The Bengals have AJ Green and Marvin Jones (a guy who I recall you were very high on back in 2012). They don't need Hawkins, they can find a capable #3 WR in the draft, or somewhere. Plus, the Bengals are one of the cheapest franchises in the league, so it's unlikely they will match for that reason alone.

I don't know why the Browns want Hawkins though, it's a lot of money to spend on a guy who wasn't that good in his one year of being a 2nd/3rd option at WR. I'd rather get a guy in this draft in the 3rd or 4th for 600k a year, than spend 3m a year on Hawkins.

TexansFTW
03-17-2014, 12:17 AM
I don't know why the Browns want Hawkins though, it's a lot of money to spend on a guy who wasn't that good in his one year of being a 2nd/3rd option at WR. I'd rather get a guy in this draft in the 3rd or 4th for 600k a year, than spend 3m a year on Hawkins.

I agree. I personally think Hawkins is not long for the NFL. He's blazing fast, but 5'7" WRs gotta be more than fast to have a long life in the NFL. Browns totally overspent on him and I think he's going to suck, especially in their offense, but whatever.

The pick is saucy, I like it. I personally thought they'd go w/ Sammy "Speed Kills" Watkins right there, but I can't hate the pick. Good stuff so far.

Dutchrudder
03-17-2014, 12:56 AM
I agree. I personally think Hawkins is not long for the NFL. He's blazing fast, but 5'7" WRs gotta be more than fast to have a long life in the NFL. Browns totally overspent on him and I think he's going to suck, especially in their offense, but whatever.

The pick is saucy, I like it. I personally thought they'd go w/ Sammy "Speed Kills" Watkins right there, but I can't hate the pick. Good stuff so far.

Eh... Franchise QB > WR. This draft is too deep at WR to worry about getting one at #4. I'll probably get one later in the draft.

Blake
03-17-2014, 07:44 AM
Spreadsheet is HERE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AscQRwKjB5B9dEtMeHkzSHRpZ3NKUURPTTRMaEc5S Gc&usp=drive_web#gid=9)

Dutch. I cant access google docs at home. Can you please update the RESULTS list with the owners?

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104406

Oakland Raiders (MistaRed) ON THE CLOCK 7AM-11AM
Atlanta Falcons (JCTexan) ON DECK (JCTexan PM'ed me his top 2.)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (TexansSeminole) IN THE HOLE

TexansFTW
03-17-2014, 09:53 AM
So Mista Red is on the clock for another hour (700 -1100 AM)?

I was reading that rules sheet and I guess it said that he will be a group pick from then on? Do we have an area where we can make a simple vote or will we have 31 message board posts?

WolverineFan
03-17-2014, 10:04 AM
Just gonna throw this out there.....

IMO, we should give MistaRed an extra hour or two. We weren't supposed to start until this morning but we got 4 picks out of the way last night. How's the guy supposed to know that he started the day on the clock? He probably wasn't expecting to be on the clock until around noon at the earliest.

Dutchrudder
03-17-2014, 10:05 AM
Just gonna throw this out there.....

IMO, we should give MistaRed an extra hour or two. We weren't supposed to start until this morning but we got 4 picks out of the way last night. How's the guy supposed to know that he started the day on the clock?

He was online an hour ago. He should know to check this thread. All we can do is wait until the timer goes off.

NCTexan
03-17-2014, 10:09 AM
Just gonna throw this out there.....

IMO, we should give MistaRed an extra hour or two. We weren't supposed to start until this morning but we got 4 picks out of the way last night. How's the guy supposed to know that he started the day on the clock? He probably wasn't expecting to be on the clock until around noon at the earliest.

I agree here.


Guys, I just wanted to throw this out there too. I really appreciate being included in this last year for the first time, and again this year. This forum is definitely a community I feel attached to and I really looked forward to this after last year. Thank you guys for all being so awesome. Even those who I tend to disagree with about the state and the future of the Texans (Texian, I'm looking at you), I appreciate the well thought out logic behind the arguments and how everyone can mostly keep it civil.

/emotional outburst

Now, stop drafting all the people I want!

WolverineFan
03-17-2014, 10:11 AM
He was online an hour ago. He should know to check this thread. All we can do is wait until the timer goes off.

Okay never mind, didn't know that.

Blake
03-17-2014, 10:12 AM
He was online an hour ago. He should know to check this thread. All we can do is wait until the timer goes off.

I think this is a perfect opportunity to remind people that this thing is going to move FAST. Please try to be ready for a run of picks. Especially if the moderators are proxy picking for a group. You have to be ready to pick now.

WolverineFan
03-17-2014, 11:06 AM
Well if we do group pick or the mods proxy pick, this one should be pretty straight forward. Raiders have needs all over the place, but I only see two options for them right here.

Blake
03-17-2014, 11:06 AM
Time is up. I really hate to group pick is first pick. Give him more time or move on?

NCTexan
03-17-2014, 11:08 AM
Time is up. I really hate to group pick is first pick. Give him more time or move on?

I say give him one more hour.

I also say if he misses this pick don't make them a group pick for the rest of the draft, give him a chance to come back.

The Pencil Neck
03-17-2014, 11:10 AM
Gotta be Manziel, right?

WolverineFan
03-17-2014, 11:13 AM
Gotta be Manziel, right?

Him or Matthews I would think. With Clowney off the board I think it's an Aggie.

Blake
03-17-2014, 11:19 AM
Gotta be Manziel, right?

Him or Matthews I would think. With Clowney off the board I think it's an Aggie.

I dont think Matthews is on the radar with LT Menelik Watson and RT Austin Howard (15 million guaranteed) as the bookends. And I dont know if Clowney was at the top of their needs list with Woodley, Antonio Smith and Justin Tuck all signing.

I think WR Watkins, LB Barr, LB Mack, LB Mosley, CB Gilbert, and maybe QB Manziel.

I would probably take Gilbert or Watkins for them. They gots tha speed.

RT22
03-17-2014, 11:24 AM
Manzel for Oakland. I like the fit for both team and player.

WolverineFan
03-17-2014, 11:27 AM
I dont think Matthews is on the radar with LT Menelik Watson and RT Austin Howard (15 million guaranteed) as the bookends. And I dont know if Clowney was at the top of their needs list with Woodley, Antonio Smith and Justin Tuck all signing.

I think WR Watkins, LB Barr, LB Mack, LB Mosley, CB Gilbert, and maybe QB Manziel.

I would probably take Gilbert or Watkins for them. They gots tha speed.

Watson has been battling leg injuries since he got drafted and only played in 5 games last year. He was set to play RT this year, but is now slotted in at LT because of the botched Saffold signing. I could see them taking Watkins because he's probably BPA, but QB and OL are definitely their biggest needs on offense. They did let their best OL walk though so who knows.

As for Clowney, they have been linked to him forever and he would likely be their BPA if he was available. Of the 3 DE's they signed, only 1 is younger than 30 so I don't think that's a deterrent to drafting Clowney. I don't see them taking Gilbert because they just signed Tarrell Brown and drafted a CB in the 1st last year. Mack is a possibility although unlikely. Too early for Mosley.

I guess if I'm choosing for them I'm choosing between Manziel, Matthews, and Watkins. JMO.

The Pencil Neck
03-17-2014, 11:29 AM
If it was ME drafting, I'd take Watkins, hands down.

But I expect them to take Manziel.

TexansFTW
03-17-2014, 11:32 AM
I think there is NO chance it's Manziel. This pick is Watkins or Matthews all day. Coupled with the fact that Donald Penn left without a contract after Saffold's $42.5 MM deal fell through I gotta believe LT is a pressing issue for the Raiders.

Giving him Manziel right there (all obviously just my opinion) will really throw off this mock the way that Michael Irvin threw off the NFL Network mock draft by taking Geno #1 after Mike Mayock repeatedly telling him not to do it.

Once again, we should probably just have a voting area with a simple button click. I could see my response possibly causing debate which isn't really the intention here.

EDIT: If they had ANY faith in Menelik Watson, I assure you they wouldn't have inked an injured Saffold to a $42.5 MM deal before the failed physical. And Clowney was drafted at #3.

WolverineFan
03-17-2014, 11:38 AM
I'm actually leaning Watkins at this point, now that his name has been brought up and I've thought about it.

TexansSeminole
03-17-2014, 11:39 AM
Just gonna throw this out there.....

IMO, we should give MistaRed an extra hour or two. We weren't supposed to start until this morning but we got 4 picks out of the way last night. How's the guy supposed to know that he started the day on the clock? He probably wasn't expecting to be on the clock until around noon at the earliest.

True, but I checked last activity times last night and he was on the clock when he was online, so he needed only to check. That means he was online on two different occassions when he was on the clock. It's a bit annoying to have this happen so early. Anyway, I will not vote on group pick because Tampa is coming up 2 picks later and I am biased.

Dutchrudder
03-17-2014, 11:44 AM
I forgot to mention that everyone participating in the draft needs to enable emails in their User Profile. We can send emails to folks when they are on the clock. Don't worry, your email won't be public.

Please go to USER CP at the top of your screen. Click Edit Options on the left, then make sure the box is checked to receive email. Also make sure you have a good email listed in your Details section.

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/themishkin/Sports/usercp.jpg~original

TexansFTW
03-17-2014, 11:51 AM
I was forced to register for this forum w/ my work email because it didn't allow me to use my hotmail or gmail and I have no intention of these things going to my work email, sorry.

I tried to change my email just now and it still won't allow me to use either my hotmail or my gmail addresses.

bah007
03-17-2014, 11:51 AM
If we're group picking it has to be Matthews, IMO. Even if he doesn't work out at LT he can be very valuable because they are garbage on the interior as well.

TexansSeminole
03-17-2014, 11:53 AM
I was forced to register for this forum w/ my work email because it didn't allow me to use my hotmail or gmail and I have no intention of these things going to my work email, sorry.

I tried to change my email just now and it still won't allow me to use either my hotmail or my gmail addresses.

I actually have the exact same problem, so I can't get emails. The email I used back in the day was a university email that no longer exists and I can't change to my gmail.

Blake
03-17-2014, 12:24 PM
Sorry MistaRed. Im going to give the Raiders Sammy Watkins.

I think Watson is expected to take LT, and 26 year old Howard was signed to a high dollar contract to man RT allowing them to upgrade at WR.

We all know the Raiders are known for loving speed. And Watkins has alot of it. A dynamic playmaker who will help his new QB, Matt Schaub.

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2012/08/03/All-American-WR-suspended-two-games-for-arrest-Q120GA80-x-large.jpg

Blake
03-17-2014, 12:30 PM
JCTexan was gracious enough to proxy his pick to me.

The Atlanta Falcons select Khalil Mack - OLB - Buffalo - MAC

JCTexan can explain the pick when he gets in.

http://cbssports.com/images/collegefootball/USATSI_7525778.jpg

Blake
03-17-2014, 12:31 PM
07(07) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (TexansSeminole) ON THE CLOCK 12:30-4:30
08(08) Minnesota Vikings () ON DECK
09(09) Buffalo Bills (Blake) IN THE HOLE

Playoffs
03-17-2014, 12:38 PM
Sorry MistaRed. Im going to give the Raiders Sammy Watkins...

Correct selection, imo fwiw.

bah007
03-17-2014, 12:40 PM
Can't go wrong with Sammy. Oakland needs help on offense.

JCTexan
03-17-2014, 12:42 PM
JCTexan was gracious enough to proxy his pick to me.

The Atlanta Falcons select Khalil Mack - OLB - Buffalo - MAC

JCTexan can explain the pick when he gets in.

http://cbssports.com/images/collegefootball/USATSI_7525778.jpg

Sure thing!

Given the re-build of the defensive line with veterans Paul Soliai and Tyson Jackson and a switch to the 3-4 defense, getting a pass-rushing OLB who is also the Best Player Available here makes too much sense to pass up. Mack also has experience playing in Buffalo's 3-4 defense where he played as a hybrid linebacker.

TexansSeminole
03-17-2014, 12:44 PM
Tampa Bay added a plethora of FAs in this FA period but still have some glaring holes. I was hoping to get Watkins, because Mike Williams is overrated and they don't have anybody who can play the slot or be good depth. Watkins would have added a #2 immediately, and also the versatility to play in the slot when Williams came onto the field. However, he is not available.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers select:

C.J. Mosley - MLB - Alabama - SEC

http://www.buckeyestatesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Mosley1.jpg

This may be a bit of a surprise as the Bucs are rumored to be interested in a QB, and some mocks have them going with an OL. They addressed their need at C with Evan Dietrich-Smith, OT with Anthony Collins, and even got some depth at G behind Nicks with Oniel Cousins. Dotson, their RT, is underrated in my opinion and Matthews or another OL really isn't desperately needed here. I also thought about TE Eric Ebron here because I think he would add something to their offense that they just don't have.

In the end, I went Mosley because the Bucs' starting LBers are L. David, Mason Foster, and Jonathan Casillas (I guess). Foster is probably better suited on the bench or at SLB. So, we stick Mosley in the middle to play behind all those young DTs they have on the roster and we move Foster outside. Lovie gets his MLB for his Tampa 2.

WolverineFan
03-17-2014, 12:45 PM
Sure thing!

Given the re-build of the defensive line with veterans Paul Soliai and Tyson Jackson and a switch to the 3-4 defense, getting a pass-rushing OLB who is also the Best Player Available here makes too much sense to pass up. Mack also has experience playing in Buffalo's 3-4 defense where he played as a hybrid linebacker.

He's a perfect fit for what they're trying to do. Great pick.

kiwitexansfan
03-17-2014, 12:48 PM
Falcons doing some solid work this offseason.

If they are healthy they could be a huge bounce back team.

Watkins is a good choice, BPA but they have so much need you could have taken anyone really.

bah007
03-17-2014, 12:50 PM
Despite the delay (thank you for keeping us moving Blake) this thing is off to a hot start. Lots of good picks being made.

Blake
03-17-2014, 01:02 PM
08(08) Minnesota Vikings (NCTexan) ON THE CLOCK 1PM-5PM
09(09) Buffalo Bills (Blake)
10(10) Detroit Lions (steelbtexan)

kiwitexansfan
03-17-2014, 01:18 PM
Like your logic Seminole. Very solid get.

Playoffs
03-17-2014, 01:18 PM
Nice tool to fill out the draft and see who's available: ESPN Draft Machine (http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/features/draftmachine/)

TexansFTW
03-17-2014, 01:19 PM
Is this is what the real NFL draft looks like then my mock is destroyed. I can't be the only one shocked Matthews is not off the board through 7 picks... or am I?

Nice tool to fill out the draft and see who's available: ESPN Draft Machine (http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/features/draftmachine/)

sweet bro. thanks.

The Pencil Neck
03-17-2014, 01:24 PM
Is this is what the real NFL draft looks like then my mock is destroyed. I can't be the only one shocked Matthews is not off the board through 7 picks... or am I?

Matthews could drop quite a bit. Lewan could even cut in front of him.

But also, linemen aren't the sexiest picks.

NCTexan
03-17-2014, 01:25 PM
With the 8th pick in the draft the Vikings select Anthony Barr, OLB.

A basic pick to help offset the loss of Jared Allen and shore up a shallow LB corps.